Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

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VOTE: chemist

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Why are those the only two options for me?

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Like, we just caught scum and youre asking if its a pressure vote?

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Jungle Medicine is waaaaay too easy with the townreads.

it's always been a bad ms habit, but i feel like it's only gotten worse of late

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This is a damned if I do and damned if I don't situation where it doesn't matter what I say, you've already made up your minds on me being scummier than others who didn't post.

I believe in you vork!

Stop taking it so seriously and just pretend you arent scum!

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Hes saying that he thinks '1v1 me dunn' is a signal of some kind. Because he has some recent experience with traitor games.

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And 21 is the answer to dave's question.

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But is a traitor possible with the setup? who the hell has time to look at every matrix some nerd designs?

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It apparently is, but Vork, why bring that up now instead of later once you see how people interact when you 'aren't onto them'?

A little early to go and tipping your hand, right?

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Do you want to be spoonfed a list of all potential scum PRs as well?

Woah, where you got that aggressive?

It seems completely out of character for him, tbh

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How is the mod a 'fucken furry'?

is it [adjective, noun] or [verb, noun]?

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I mean neither of you know me well enough to say that,

If he were scum he wouldn't act this way. Period.

1: excuse me, kind sir, but thats kind of unsporting of you to say.
2: ummm these are contrasts, arent they?
4: Why are you talking like we're 90 pages and a 7 page argument deep in a game? its still rvs

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I dont like.

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It ends when I sit down to read.

Or, more practically, it ends when people start talking seriously.

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When I replace into a game I usually strive to read the first, last, and middle 8 pages.

RVS isnt useless, there's just better ways to read people. I mean, its here, and it counts, but much like when Im mobile its not gonna break the game wide open.

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but thats fine, I found vorks post to be a little hard-edged, and I made a note of it.

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Isos are one of the things phone can do well.

I will be making my rounds in my forums later today. will try to be serious then

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b) chemist's hostile reaction felt scummy

I dint read it as overly hostile at all.

Yeah that totally doesn’t feel serious.

actually i dont see the scumread on dave. Like I see the reasons, I just dont think they hold serious weight. Dave's reaction though, can be useful.

i want to wagon dave rn

this is an okay desire. I approve of the post.

I don't think that an early D1 wagon on me will get through, so I'm being slightly cavalier about it.

You've been lynched on D1 before so that's an odd position to take?

I cannot think of a single player who hasnt been roped day 1. I dont see why volx's confidence needed this retort.

But,

What is your reason for jungle being town?

This is fair. Why is duck asking for jungle?

I didnt 'like' 207 from baezu, but i did think it was towny for his style of posting.

I do want to do some ISO dives but I’m stuck on phone for now

You voted but said nothing about why.

Actually, dude dave youre seeming kind of overagitated this game. Wanna crash on a couch and talk it out?
Im not getting a hunting vibe at all with your questions. Theyre all oddly defensive in the weakest kind of way.

Meanwhile I see someone who needs motivation of some kind.

why vote here instead of your wagon dave?

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I think the jm vote from chem is kind of reachy, but its getting meatier by the post.

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I guessing the game will pick up over the midweek. no worries m8

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I hope he was scum there, because while I wanted to let the game develop before I commented on these early game pushes but this one is narrative driven and shallow.

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wow. way to post, game.

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haven't read since last ketchup

too busy with learning rimworld.


persi is kinda dicktown. no way power scum dances like he is. hes hunting. but i mean iys multiball so we'll see where he goes

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vork, i kind of expected more verbose posts from you. maybe I don't know you so well.

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is it? cuz i could see how he comes off as an angry hurtful player here.

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isnt that persi's meta?


but more importantly, isnt it towny to not care about being scumread and keep playing?
And outside of mafia for a sec: doesn't it make him harder to stop when he keeps going?

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enough to not preference his lynch on d1.

is this a large?

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yus, it is

yea no, typically ill kill anything null or under.

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like idk how anyone can have a firm read in a large multiball on d1 without meta.

better to just lynch for info and for general scumminess

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hmmm. me, a wolf

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that's just chemist's iso and one little post tacked on.

what are you pulling exactly duck?

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like didn't you TR not 2 days ago?

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do me!

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iirc


baezu
chenn
rooster

need some sunlight

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i mean, im here, but im not really playing rn, so . . .

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vorks different here, but idk if that means he is scum


I think it can wait though in either direction,since he is interacting.

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i don't think I've ever had the privilege of playing with this particular skittle.

any inspired quotes?

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so humble

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what's your opinion of ducki?

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cuz i feel like they're trying to strong arm the game.

but that's not really enough for a scumread.

oh, and their dumping grounds, Chemist

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isn't ducks pushing for a chemist wagon?

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i mean, Im an SK, so . . .

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woah.

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Nothing forces me to stepback like a wagon growing out of an ass that im first on.

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can you kindly explain why yous alls jumped on what's kinda my rvs vote im toolazy to remove?

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nice wking

are you normally this awful at posting?

please define the term 'white knight' and then demonstrate it to me via my posts, shitforbrains.

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there is only so much abuse ill take from some millenial sassmouth.

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Kindly go fuck yourself with a hose and then give yourself the colonoscopy you need to come back to this with the sticks and pine needle out.

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mmmmmm no im sorry. im busy with work and whonot.

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ima come back into this with a fresh head. hopefully.

I havent really gotten a feel for this one yet, and i think it shows

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rn i have a different, more 5a to 2p game to play...

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like can we not do that though?


Umm Im awful hurt that so many people just wanna write me off. I guess wothout the meta behind me I can't just airhead about for most the game?

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I expect to have some time between 5 and 7 hours from now

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I got home and the plan is to go to the gym for 530 and then read up about 8? Or I guess I could be assed to do some of it now and finish up at 8

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Ill replace out if i find i cant muster the energy for this. I wont let a slot get condemned for my laziness.

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I mean I

guess

I can see why.

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Okay. First up.

Why I find it inadvisable to rope persi:

Seemed really fake and forced to me.

Persi vote swaps right out of RVS, hunting for reactions and whatnot.

Seconded.

He's interested in playing, and he's giving reads out. Right at this post its mainly duck and vork, but you know, thats fine.

Need I go on?
How do you NOT have suspicion of him?

This post where he actually cases out vork. I didnt vote vork here, because I see it more from skitters pov, but I do appreciate that persi has a read and pushes it.
I also seem to recall that persi does have somewhat more aggressive reads on people. thats fine.

p-edit: the strikeouts are annoying in general.

Yes, vork its a cute thing once in a while, but imagine when the blatant sarcasm you use is dropped when others do it. Its obfuscates your meanings, could possibly be used as some kind of "code", and, in all honesty, demeans your own posts.

Lotta people need to talk.

Yo. I mean: Yo.



Like, need I go on? Persi is active, hunty, and in line with the vague meta I have on him. And, to boot, if he is scum, that'll be dealt with later. Dont sell me the "scum have to scumhunt here too" or "Town job is to townhunt" flavored kool-aid either, because Im happy with the pressure he is applying. He's green for me, and its people like duck who have been miscontruing my read into something else to case me.

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I mean, I think skitter is town, I dont trust ducki rn, and I will defer chenn due to lack of real meta to compare it to. He is here, and says things I would accept, so chenn isnt a priority.

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It means youre probs scum who is gonna tunnelfuck me for days

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Ima go on to chemist, reread chenn, and pick on afew other people asp

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I mean, Ill do it tomorrow

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the posts that you're making when you are here are scummy

I mean i guess. do you have any specific focal points?

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the former is kind of sardonic whining while the latter is mostly kept there because chemist kind of ran off.

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but I will sit down tomorrow and try this. If I dont get into this now I wont want to for the next game day.

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VOTE: unvote

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i mean if were really gonna gank him thats cool but i wanna finish catching up before i attract every vig bullet tonight

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Im gonna read up after dinner.

Ive got a run to do. Round the boardwalk. But not with a full tummy, or in the rain later.

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okay. Let me spew some knowledge.

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hE kEePs ScUmPoStInG

Ummm I guess this is as good a place as any.

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Okay. That was easy. My impression was he was like the only player of significance less involved than I am. And wow that's pretty spot on. I kill based on the reaction to the wagon growing on him, but Id suggest using the actual formation as a tool, cuz he's almost certainly been bussed by a bud if they know whats good for the survivors.

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Spoiler: JM ISO

VOTE: Dave

Let's lynch this quick!

Vorkuta's town by the way.

More votes on Dave please!

Roster's town as well!

I don’t like how JM swaps back and forth between a supposed joke vote and serious reads.

I hope you're town, Skitter.

I'm adding Skitter & Fusco to my list of townies.

I feel like there’s a disconnect confidence-wise between these posts.

I also support votes for Dave! I don't promise he flips scum but there's a reasonable probability.

This one just confuses me tbh, I can’t tell if the votes are serious or not now.

I'll talk with you soon, Skitter.

I know you're town

& that's going to make this game a lot easier for both of us.

More confidence disconnect to the level where it feels like TMI (even though this is multiball)

I thought RVS ended on pg 2 ...

Combined with the above and the fact that there’s no indication that they have a real scumread on Dave this is wolfy

VOTE: JM

Not Ps with jungle.

Scum should have known it was multiball from the rip, so this low effort vote seems less like distancing and more like either trying to catch a otherball or predict where a wagon would be.

At least somebody quoted post zero saying its two balls and no strikes.

I’ll read Persy now but iirc Duck/Lime was mostly NAI stuff. I don’t have any meta on Penguin.

Maybe could ask 'why persi'. Persi is a viable counter wagon to chem, but does that mean couldnt be a bud? I dont think persi is under any real pressure here.

Stuff like 692 where chem says 'persi's defense is weird self-depreciating meta' is always grating to me. I always feel like people take that kind of thing too seriously, and if its your best talking point for sorting a players it not going to be a good case. Its feels lame in motion.

I know I'm town now, so I'll push him:

VOTE: Jungle

"I know I'm town now" -- who ever says that?

WTF, try reading for context.

I also do like this

Overall I haven’t loved Persy’s pushes but I think their aggressiveness has been pretty villagery

I wouldn’t lynch them yet

Id check to see if anyone was really actively TRing persi by this post, and then decide if it could be a buddy attempt or trying to distance a P. Def worth a jot in the notebook Im not keeping.

He does dunn, but doesnt say too much.

it's not hard

there's literally an unvote button

nah. The vote was a pressure one, and it was doing real work. I actually expected to catch more flak for unvoting without a proper revote, but meh I mean Im eating bullets tonight.

Claim please.

^^^^

VT

This is not likely, imo. More likely, in my head, this is a scum who doesnt know the exact grid square to read from. But I doubt that a CC would come even if they did.

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the former is kind of sardonic whining

while the latter is mostly kept there because chemist kind of ran off.

i don't understand what you're saying here

i mean if were really gonna gank him thats cool but i wanna finish catching up before i attract every vig bullet tonight

yes please catch up, and please explain what you meant earlier regarding me saying i thought your interactions with the chemist wagon were bad

???
Chem's flet like a nonfactor in the game despite a wagon and without apology. Im not on his hump for being kind of lurky but the low effort cases are not helping. His wagon is a good place to VCA later on, so even if we dont lynch him now its been a good ride.

What does this mean?

Oh nothing much.

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Has anyone other than chemist claimed
Why is a veet claim unbelievable? My understanding is ~half the town is vt?

I mean i guess.

It doesnt matter to me much either way.

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also did you realize that shoshin = jungle medicine?

No i didnt

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idk your interactions with this wagon all feel like really bad ngl

ok if there's scum on the wagon where is it?

Chemist1422 – 3/9 – Jungle Medicine, Fuscosco, Baezu

Vork, baezu, ducki, jungle hops off and on and off, and chenn are my picks. I actually like the pressure chenns put on me so far, so that does look like the best of that list.

But yo, baezu has been on this roller coaster as long as i have? woah, thats worth looking into.

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Id make a case on baezu, but I think an iso of them will state it as well as I can.

its softball supreme in that thing.

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Id make a case on baezu, but

they are low hanging fruit so we should just lynch them

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ftfy fucksco

time will prove me right you nasty thing

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Its a claim that was long time in coming. He's asked if he should claim several times, and if he were truely as disinterested as he seems to come off he'd just claim and be done with it.?

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Like how long was he L-2 and it was apparent his was stalled?

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Its a claim that was long time in coming. He's asked if he should claim several times, and if he were truely as disinterested as he seems to come off he'd just claim and be done with it.?

Like how long was he L-2 and it was apparent his was stalled?

wrt the chemist claim

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I hate to admit it, but I just deleted my attempts to scope a case on ducks.

he can be green here.

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but yeah please do something

like give reads on the wagon, build a base of townreads to orient myself, and pick baezu as the scum i think I just caught?

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skygaze, ducks, shosin, persi, skitter
chenn

davesaz, creature

baezu, chemist


Ill have time to do a little more. maybe vork?

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but it’s his belief that scum would be more likely to claim vt because the setup is complicated that I’m confused about

Its c++

Theres a [giant] grid in play, and any number of role counterclaim the others. Without any flips or claims its silly to claim anything but VT as scum.

so yes. If he had claimed literally anything else Id be taking a step back to look.

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That puts you on a timer doesnt it?


P: i dont know the setup. Its kind of common for me to not pay attention to unfixed, nonnormal game setups until late game.

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idk. I think there are dice rolled to determine one of 100 setups. It still limits your viability?

Newho, my impression of the claim is that its a claim. I think that 1140 and 1143 say what I feel about

how

he claimed.

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how scum!fucosco would approach the setup

Not that self meta on an account with no meta helps, but in multiballs Id want to lynch a townie D1, scumhunt overnight, and then hit scum on d2 or 3 to set myself up as town.

Essentially a modified SK. Id buss the hell out of my buddies or TR them to hell if they let me.


Ummmm, larges offer a lot of wiggle room in the beginning, which is why I never could pay attention to them to start. Too much variance and melange. when the dust starts to settle larger patterns emerge from the individual events, so as long as enough somethings happen you can pick out the right action.

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his

Her? Im confused if you mean chem or shos.


My opinion of chemist the slot is high enough where this performance here is disappointing.
My opinion of shos is that jungle seemed town enough, if unconfident. I could read the iso for the slot tonight. It always helps to make a full town and scum case of them slot in question, and then weigh it out.


Id ask shos why she is against the chem lynch though. Anyone trying to take initiative and change the gamestate should be prepared to make a case for that.

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Quiet but I like how focused they are on lynching from a pool. Their reads seem on point, and they dont have excess posts. I liked how they tried to negotiate a wagon on me, but didnt spam it.

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Quiet but I like how focused they are on lynching from a pool. Their reads seem on point, and they dont have excess posts. I liked how they tried to negotiate a wagon on me, but didnt spam it.

lol this is for chen.

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Surely the way I’ve chosen to go about getting a read on you already is something you can get a read from

Yes - I already noted it's scummy.

actually i tend to agree


i feel like irrel is looking for a wagon, not scum

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right. this died.

VOTE: barzu


willing to do almost anyone not above a nullread.

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swinging back towards chemist at eod

unless we get a good wagon going on bae?

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Chemist is still a good lynch.

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But lets not take 2 more weeks for this one day whatever happens.

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Readslist before I go back to work:

{shoshin, skitter}
{dave, creature, skygazer}
{penguin, dunnstral, Vorkuta*}
null: {persivul, baezu*}
{fuscosco, duckduck*}
{roster, chennis}
{chemist}
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What has PP or Dunn done for a read? This list looks nice enough overall though, but i def contest a dew things.

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I dont get your scumread on chenn or nullread on persi You even talked to persi most extensively. how did persi even out?

I sure dont hardtown shos, but she is green
I feel like giving dave a modest TR wihtout asking him to be present and here is a mistake. I think he is too good a player to brush off. but he is green overall.

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I dont see it as any less viable than mine on bae.

I do think its off that you keep trying to characterize me as agenda-driven

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Why would i expect anyone to join me on baezu?

least of all duck, then duck convincing skitter to join?

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Do you think the increasing suspicion on rooster has caused him to come and post more? Like maybe he is actively lurking instead of just not here?

maybe the pressure is exactly what this game needs when its stalled out...

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Well, I took a second to think about that, and if Im reading the setup right there are 4-6 scum here, and you have 5 scumreads.\

"keep doing"?

I think Im just being too sensitive since I felt under real pressure earlier this gameday, Im imagining a player quoting from dave talking to me, poking at my assessment of the chem claim, and the listing me as a mild scumread with only 3 others down there as slowly pivoting into someone ill have to challenge now or leave myself open to a mislynch.

Ive seen that slow pivot too often from both town and scum, but if I start pushing back now i can sort you too.

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Do you think it’s scummy that I’m posting more because I’ve been pressured? Or are you just going to imply that it is while sitting firmly on a fence?

Kind of?

I mean, maybe youre actually uberpr or something, but generally the intense energy you bring could be used to play rather than fight us all.


Like, id def put you lower than dunn or PP right now. Doing nothing is actually less scummy than doing nothing until somebody calls you out and then not doing much.

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Do you think im fencesitty?

Im willing to lynch anything nullread or less.

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I don't see your play around chemist as similar at all.

Im not quite sure i see what you mean. I just saw a push.

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5 scumreads and a couple nullreads is about right for this setup, no?

On day1? No, I would never be happy with exactly 6 scumreads. I feel like this is just one of the things we differ on though, if my meta memory on you is correct.

you think chennis is town?

I think I townread then for now. If I am right about their playstyle this is about in line with them. Ill sit down tonight or so and reiso them wrt their chem read, but what if chem flips red? Doesnt that make them townier?

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You asked those questions to Irrelephant and I felt like you were waiting on him to answer to form an opinion. That’s what I call fencesitty. Being willing to lynch almost anything is also fencesitty actually. I think this is player-dependent though so I’m going to have to look at some meta for that.

Do you really think I bring an intense energy?

An opinion on him, maybe.

My opinion of you has been mostly that you are belligerent. But direct confrontation is a good sign. If you have nothing to hide then you should ask people why they are prodding you.


Nah, bro. In a large game, especially one with sk/balls, being willing to compromise is a key feature. My strongest scumread is not my only scumread, and its probably a bad sign that you wouldn't take any other lynch on D1.

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Rooster. Is chen scum? Does it bother you that the chem wagon stalled? Who would you lynch right now for a flip?

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Chemist lynch is good regardless of if we find more scum tho

Agreed

How's the mislynch going?

Where should we be voting in your opinion?

Do you think the increasing suspicion on rooster has caused him to come and post more? Like maybe he is actively lurking instead of just not here?

maybe the pressure is exactly what this game needs when its stalled out...

Oh no, you rolledscum this game? But I like you so much!

This is a three post prodge

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(sorry that sounds harsh. you're just getting my reaction to being misread because it's very :/// here to me)

This is kind of a bit much for a guy who said he didnt actually read your profile or the chronological game?

You seem to TR him, mostly. I dont quite see why

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Also, youre still an ass

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Dave, wanna join the winning wagon?

Sky can be town for today. Like just her style. We will catch skyscum mid-game if she doesnt improve. Let the nighttime actors work.

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For what its worth, I think a mass claim in this situation has more town benefit

ummmmmmm?

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You know, thats actually really green. Terrible, but green

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<3

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chen or chem

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?? why

Im just trying to pick irre's head. If chem flips red in multiball, is chen more likely town to irre?

Is chen being oppurtunist?

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k

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right. i keep saying red, I mean 'scum' and not 'mafia'

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What’s your list of potential lynches for today, fus?

Anyone south of nulltown.


thats

chem, baezu, pp, rooster, vorki, irre, dave, ummmm anyone else i have said i tr.

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What’s your list of potential lynches for today, fus?

you gotta read man. Ive said this three times now, if you include this latest time.

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have not townread.

I dont think hes an optimal lynch. I just dont townread him based on the work hes done.

I feel like giving dave a modest TR wihtout asking him to be present and here is a mistake. I think he is too good a player to brush off. but he is green overall.

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yus, it is

yea no, typically ill kill anything null or under.

right. this died.

VOTE: barzu


willing to do almost anyone not above a nullread.

Do you think im fencesitty?

Im willing to lynch anything nullread or less.

What’s your list of potential lynches for today, fus?

Anyone south of nulltown.


thats

chem, baezu, pp, rooster, vorki, irre, dave, ummmm anyone else i have said i tr.

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Like please read. Ill take ducks word for the moment, but for someone who implied they read my iso to fetch a scumread on me, you havent.

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lol.

I mean if you arent going to push them why are you asking? You asked for a list, what will you do with that list? is it just busy work or filler?

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Word up, your questions are lackluster. I dont think youre a better lynch than say chem, but Id advocate some tlc tonight.

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I was never here

but you were

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and you are. 6 votes in and you are

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this can only be a meta thing, cuz I would have bitched about how pointless this wagon's info would be.


but beetlejuice

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PP lurking possibly being AI

this confirms that?

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VOTE: pp

L-2

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VOTE: PenguinPower

this?

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Because you squirmed in here over a flashwagon, and I want to add my body to the pile.

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Why are you town PP? Like its time to play. idk why you responded to the wagon at all if you werent prepared to engage.

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k

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I caught up with the thread.

Tell me a story of your people then?

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??? The vaishnav

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le sighe

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Like I dont get why this formed, but Im as happy here as anywhere.

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that reaction from pp is crap

Irre is covering for him.

9/11 was not an inside job, but was known about

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but yea, i can see 2 or 3 scum on pp rn

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seriously, why the unvote irre?

it's l-2
we want him to claim and play
you started this. did you not want a real wagon? this flashagon was super satisfying to see and be on

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oorah

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this is interesting

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gonna point out how damn stale the chemist wagon is.

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two votes are from the 1200s, and one is from bae voting the newest fad like a slinky snake trying to blend in.

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Can all these baby vanity wagon voters condense into a rope so we can end the day, and the night, by the end of Easter Weekend?

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that reminds me to pick a game to hydra in wu

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Im game for it. that 7?

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7 votes for chem?
3 for pp.


Id vote chem to end the day if another jumps in.

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VOTE: chem

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Now you're right there with a VC.
Kinda wanted to leave the fakehammer alone and see what happened.

almost, right?

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VOTE: rooster

shitty scumhammer was shit

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talk

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much I want to move it along ....

any other guilties should out lest they get nked.
we should still atbleast mention the NAs and the wagons
we should wait for people to post.
..but wagon him up with us, yo

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no . . .

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Thats actually a good point.


Who's wolfy to you rooster? Out them now.

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not to kill roster

lol were not chaining him, he hasnt even claimed.


but if he outs his reads we can examine those and lynch accordingly.

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k. right. forgot.

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issue with that is that you outed first.

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issue with that is that you outed first.

What's the issue with that?

chen has waaaay more town credit than rooster for claiming first.

they also are just townier?

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We
Are
Not
Mass
Claiming.

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?

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I think we crossed wires then?


Like Im saying i dont believe rooster because chen claimed first

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hunh.

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idk, i had skitter pegged as town.

whybis creature scum?

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I honestly thought youd have a more multiball oriented case

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skitter spewed us non-aligned and we were super obviously t/t with shoshin

if you disagree I'd really appreciate an explanation of what the fuck we've been doing

duckie is hellatown

dunn is actually doing a fair amount of limowristed flailing. at least that's how i see it

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lol i think its a legit question.

do you have reason to think you lost an action, or do you really mean
.
'i was her top scumread'.


shade os thrown

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lets kill Dunn

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I'm mobile rn, but Idk about dunnscum.

at least, theyre kind of a firm nil rn. nonpresence is AI of him?

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maybe roster did have some sort of guilty

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Said nobody townie ever

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VOTE: irre

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I see it more as fencing while you see if others choose to side with him, tbh.

The CC to a first-post hard guilty is scumplay 101, and he had no logical way of 'suspecting chen would CC him'. His anger was genuine, im sure, his guilty not so much.


P:

re-isoing your posts yesterday, Im torn.

OtOH, youre talking to Rooster and keep mentioning ways chen could be scum or even a hard bussing buddy.
OtO, youre actively calling him scum and asking him to out reads.

I feel less like youre trying to save rooster and more like you want him to drop shade on others for future lynches?

Extremely hard disagree that Persovil is greener from the orange flip

About this - if he is greener why vote him now?

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Please do tell, though, why a townie couldn't believe for half a second that two of his scumreads were indeed scum

Its the mental gymnastics youre trying to justify that I find suspect.

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About this - if he is greener why vote him now?

read my post again

ohh, I kind of inserted my own 'to' in there.

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because chennis still has to play townily to not get lynched

I think the weight that chen is trying to throw around speaks volumes for their alignment.

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not opposed to a dunnstral lynch but can we PLEASE PLEASE play

This is my main reason for not wanting to kill dunn yet. they havent really come out.


ftr I stil think dunn is better than you, and I suspect dave needs to come and play today.

I want to think, because the shoshin kill seems like either misdirection or more meta-entrenched scum imo.

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Please do tell, though, why a townie couldn't believe for half a second that two of his scumreads were indeed scum

Its the mental gymnastics youre trying to justify that I find suspect.

please explain

Like I said, I kind of feel like maybe you were looking to muddy up the game with rooster reads. Getting rooster to give any info is fine, but Im wondering if it wasnt just some kind of coaching. Thats not any more unlikely than chen hardbussing or rooster being a maf defector.

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I think shoshin was suboptimal.

I think its a shallow reason for wolf reading me since you did so beforehand

I think its better calling me wolf now than calling me roosters buddy like you did at day-break.

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why wouldn't I just tell him in scumchat to post reads?

Subject: Open 568: Wolf Gang City – Mafia Topic

Confirming that FuDuzn has chosen Spy.

Locked for Day start.

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rn I think 2 scum are in dave, irre, dunn, persi, maybe vork. I want wagons here.

I dont have a real read on bae, but tr them for some reason I forget.
I dont have a good opinion of the usually vocal vork not being vocal. I saw them as scum last game and I let it slide, much to my quicklynch.
I dont know anythin about creature or PP. is it usual for them to do nothing?

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rn I think

at least

2 scum are in dave, irre, dunn, persi, maybe vork. I want wagons here.

I dont have a real read on bae, but tr them for some reason I forget.
I dont have a good opinion of the usually vocal vork not being vocal. I saw them as scum last game and I let it slide, much to my quicklynch.
I dont know anythin about creature or PP. is it usual for them to do nothing?

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I think its better calling me wolf now than calling me roosters buddy like you did at day-break.

why?

Because it makes more sense?
it also is one of several inconsistencies i think i see in your iso.

I hate how rational you seem but how flawed your thinking seems to be. idk how to approach it.

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i mean im Mobile rn and kind of sick of the back and forth I've been doing with you. Im surprised youd do it with me but not say ducks, who has basically said the same thing

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Right, so we've established mutual distrust.

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i think my vote on irre has been mostly helpful.

vort showing up to ask about mass claiming and then disappearing for consecutive days is pretty ugly, iyam

VOTE: vort

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back home, and back drinked

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VOTE: dunn

yo, iud use this as a good test.

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My train of thought is that baezu is town with no motivation to poist.

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That naked and L-2 vote is quite wolfy baezu....

or balsy town? i think, in retort to duckies, that the trs of baezu is because thety lack an agenda

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mabye.

explain the drive to massclaim?

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can i at least get a readlist from you?

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No we have 2 factiona flips/

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Mutliball means, imo, hunting for townies who are townhunting, and then comparing them to the scumflips.

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scumhunting in multi is too easy for scum to fake.

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I mean you could just eat your large wagona and die?

VOTE: dunn

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kik

VOTE: unvote