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[Lawliett]

vote:rosterfoster

[Lawliett]

vote:rosterfoster

VOTE: rosterfoster

[Lawliett]

vote:rosterfoster

Stop pretending to be new fumuki

you`re no fun ofrhz :/

i wanted this to be a secret for my 3 or 4 first games or so because i wanted to try something different, but it`s fine, you didn`t do it out of bad faith

let`s leave it at that though

[Lawliett]

That's a remarkably sophisticated thought process.

Pedit: Hai, can you quicklynch the bomb pls thnks.

why do you think he is specifically the bomb?

[Lawliett]

That's a remarkably sophisticated thought process.

Pedit: Hai, can you quicklynch the bomb pls thnks.

why do you think he is specifically the bomb?

I claimed

and hi, haha, so you are an alt after all

i see

VOTE: ejjinami

[Lawliett]

/shrug, ok, I guess

I'm still self-voting btw

do you know anyone else here?
I think I've seen roster play before, but that should be it....

if you don't have anything else to do, I don't really mind you filling me in, or sth

I know every player here.

does that include me?

[Lawliett]

i see

VOTE: ejjinami

Do you actually believe the claim?

i think there is the possibility of being scum theatre

it is a good vote for now and i`ll try to look up how ejjinami plays afterwards

[Lawliett]

does that include me?

If fumuki, yes.

well at least you aren`t going to use meta so it`s fine

[Lawliett]

no?

it kills everyone out of the neighbourhood and that includes the mafiosos?

since in day 1 only town is inside the neighbourhood (town recruiter, town recruit), i imagine we instantly win by lynching bomb day 1.

[Lawliett]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

[Lawliett]

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it might be weirdly +ev town that from the third recruited person forward, claims that they are in the neighbourhood.

i`m not sure how i can explain without it being anti-town though, give me some time to think

either that or we could make a system where everyone in the neighbourhood will use /heal to democraticaly choose who they think it`s the best option to put in the hood instead of being up only to the last recruited person (what makes mafiosos choosing other mafiosos easier).

that said, depending on how mafia is playing, their choosing in the neighbourhood can or not be basically a scum claim. then i`m not sure we want to change that.

[Lawliett]

best mafia strategy is to sound townie in day 1, get recruited, recruit his partner in day 2 and afterwards buss the bomb

it`s a insta win that way as far as i know

if two mafia get into the neighbourhood, it`s very dangerous for town, because they can begin killing inside the neighbourhood and by bussing the bomb later, win the game.

i was thinking about what we should do to prevent that, but didn`t want to break my newbie theatre but well...now it doesn`t really make a difference.

Wouldn't the recruit or recruiter being killed right after the adding of another player just out someone as scum, or at the very least give reasonable doubt to not let them have say in who to recruit?
I don't think that your idea is breaking.

as far as I am understanding the setup here, they don`t need to kill anyone in the neighbourhood until it`s already day 3 for they to win.

from what i`m understanding, they add another person in the neighbourhood during the

day

. that means that by the end of day 1, there is 3 people in the neighbourhood.

if a goon is the first one recruited, they can simply add their mafia partner in the begin of day 2, and that would make a ratio of 2:2 in the hood. if they buss the bomb in day 2 in that scenario, they win.

[Lawliett]

no?

it kills everyone out of the neighbourhood and that includes the mafiosos?

since in day 1 only town is inside the neighbourhood (town recruiter, town recruit), i imagine we instantly win by lynching bomb day 1.

Okay I mis understood it then and thought it meant PT's in general.
So why do you think scum claim it here if that's the case? For the town credit?

ejjinami kind of looks like the kind of player that doesn`t give a fuck about being cautious as far as i see?

they might just be the bomb and thought `i`ll claim bomb there, self vote and all, then no one will think i`m the bomb since that would be very anti-mafia`

it wouldn`t really be about gaining town credit, it would be about making us think that there is no way that he is the bomb.

not sure how probably that is, would need to check how he plays normally

[Lawliett]

as far as I am understanding the setup here, they don`t need to kill anyone in the neighbourhood until it`s already day 3 for they to win.

from what i`m understanding, they add another person in the neighbourhood during the day. that means that by the end of day 1, there is 3 people in the neighbourhood.

if a goon is the first one recruited, they can simply add their mafia partner in the begin of day 2, and that would make a ratio of 2:2 in the hood. if they buss the bomb in day 2 in that scenario, they win.

Wouldn't the bomb still die though? Making it 2:1 in favour of town.
But to prevent additional chance of both scum making it into the hood, the original 2 should have full say and just note down influence made by others in the hood.

If they are both dead early on it's a good chance that scum are in there. And in that case to cover that it might be worth the player recruited to confirm that they have been.
This needs to be heavily looked into though because it could easily lead back to who is town reading them.

maybe i`m the one misunderstanding how setup works, but let me explain again how i see the worse case-scenario:

town recruiter recruits mafia goon

during

day 1

mafia goon recruits another mafia goon in day 2

lynch bomb in day 2 -> only the four people in the hood survives and mafia has a 2:2 ratio.

[Lawliett]

even if the bomb gets in the hood it`s kind of easy for they to win in day 2 to be honest:

recruiter recruits bomb day 1

bomb nightkills someone already in the hood

bomb recruits a mafioso in day 2 and get lynched (they would only need 3 town votes by the way because all the mafia can quickhammer their own bomb)

mafia ratio of 1:1 in the hood.

it`s like, town sided if we recruit town in day 1, and a bit scum sided if we recruit mafia in day 1.

recruiter needs to choose well who they`ll add.

[Lawliett]

VOTE: Ofrhz

[Lawliett]

VOTE: Ofrhz

why ofrhz?

She is mafia.

I`m 80% sure of it.

[Lawliett]

I'm gonna avoid voting ejjinami in case she is the bomb and the recruiter hits scum.

Or she ends up just being town.

Lawliett is town.

Meh.

VOTE: ofrhz

Do you agree with me that Ofrhz is the scummiest looking slot right now?