Open 755: Two-Fold C9++ (GAME OVER)

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: Chennis

for pocketing me with your avatar

[Chemist1422]

Vorkuta, Roster, & Rich are town.

VOTE: Chemist

This is scum because awkward vote on Chenn & ignoring everything above to prolong RVS.

It's my first post in the game, this reasoning isn't valid.

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: chemist

Is this a pressure vote or just a sheep?

[Chemist1422]

Like, we just caught scum and youre asking if its a pressure vote?

but I'm not scum tho

[Chemist1422]

hi creature

I don't plan on lurking but it does kinda happen sometimes

but it's okay because I've been in a tryhard mood more often lately

[Chemist1422]

Back into the rabbit hole

Is Creature not being able to post as wolf an MU thing or does it apply here as well

I do want to do some ISO dives but I’m stuck on phone for now

[Chemist1422]

I didn't realize this is multiball? I guess I should take a look at the setup.

Feels fake

Is that your only reason for the vote?

VOTE: Chemist

Hi

[Chemist1422]

Spoiler: JM ISO

VOTE: Dave

Let's lynch this quick!

Vorkuta's town by the way.

More votes on Dave please!

Roster's town as well!

I don’t like how JM swaps back and forth between a supposed joke vote and serious reads.

I hope you're town, Skitter.

I'm adding Skitter & Fusco to my list of townies.

I feel like there’s a disconnect confidence-wise between these posts.

I also support votes for Dave! I don't promise he flips scum but there's a reasonable probability.

This one just confuses me tbh, I can’t tell if the votes are serious or not now.

I'll talk with you soon, Skitter.

I know you're town

& that's going to make this game a lot easier for both of us.

More confidence disconnect to the level where it feels like TMI (even though this is multiball)

I thought RVS ended on pg 2 ...

Combined with the above and the fact that there’s no indication that they have a real scumread on Dave this is wolfy

VOTE: JM

[Chemist1422]

That's a bad read, Dave.

Nothing to say about mine?

[Chemist1422]

It's bad too.

Any reasons why?

[Chemist1422]

Lotta people need to talk.

I'm here

Kinda just waiting for JM's response

They called my read bad and haven't said why yet

[Chemist1422]

Got opinions on anyone else?

Will do more ISOs now

[Chemist1422]

Got opinions on anyone else?

Will do more ISOs now

yeah this didn’t happen

whoops

[Chemist1422]

I propose we drop the Jungle & Percy votes for now, as we have MORE than enough content to analyze in the later stages of the game, and put our votes on people at the lower half of the activity list.

VOTE: Chemist (4)

I've been thinking this for some time now, but knew it would be pounced on if I were the first to suggest it. Need to do some reading though.

This is kind of a weird post for two reasons

1. Why are you so worried about getting pushed?
2. It seems like a push while you’re trying to distance from the push.

[Chemist1422]

Speak of the devil.....
Is it that easy?

Guys, lets wagon another lurker and maybe they'll show up?

magic sparkles

Not really though, just happened to coincide with me getting out of math class

[Chemist1422]

Wait, are you satisfied with the dribble that chemist provided when he hopped on for like a nanosecond?!?!?!?!?

You mean he's not coming back??!?!?!
I'm assuming the guy popped in to say 'hi, I'll read smth and get back to you', so my beetlejuicing did something.
Now-
VOTE: PenguinPower
VOTE: PenguinPower
VOTE: PenguinPower

I’m doing stuff irl so I’m popping in and out

What should I read

[Chemist1422]

What're your reads, Chemist?

I don’t have any strong reads but I’m going to do a full read through with notes once I get back on a computer

Someone should probably remind me to do this in about 2 hours just in case

[Chemist1422]

I’ll read Persy now but iirc Duck/Lime was mostly NAI stuff. I don’t have any meta on Penguin.

[Chemist1422]

Seemed really fake and forced to me.

VOTE: Rich

Policy or legit?

Policy on the persona.

It’s a pretty long ISO so I’ll be doing a couple posts at a time, but this feels kinda weird to me.

[Chemist1422]

percy you're reminding me of prey mafia rn

How so?

I've been waiting for you to interact with me specifically because of prey. In prey, I was scum, I lurked most of D1, then came on late and helped push a stalled town wagon to lynch. IIRC you correctly scum read me for that. Here, I'm active early, providing content and making pushes. This is nothing like my D1 play in Prey.

VOTE: skitter30

I don’t like this push tbh, it’s a combination of self-meta and weird OMGUS.

[Chemist1422]

Do you have any meta

along the lines of

This guy.
Look- you don't get a pass because you've done the bare minimum, answered my questions in fact but not in spirit, and promised to do reads (later, but only if someone reminds you to).
Give us something to work with.

I have no meta on anyone but Creature, which is highposting = town, or at least high amounts of content posts

[Chemist1422]

I don’t agree with Persy’s self-meta case because the only point we can prove about it is activity, which has multiple other factors. It’s just as likely he intentionally highposting to dodge that meta.

[Chemist1422]

percy you're reminding me of prey mafia rn

How so?

I've been waiting for you to interact with me specifically because of prey. In prey, I was scum, I lurked most of D1, then came on late and helped push a stalled town wagon to lynch. IIRC you correctly scum read me for that. Here, I'm active early, providing content and making pushes. This is nothing like my D1 play in Prey.

VOTE: skitter30

Whats the difference between town and scum for skitter?

This is also not great imo, I think as town they’d ask first vote later

[Chemist1422]

i mean this'll be fun and amusing but if you set this up i'm going to win this about 100% of the time

What makes you think I intend to "win" it?

This might be villagery though, town is probably more likely to stick themselves out like this

[Chemist1422]

I know I'm town now, so I'll push him:

VOTE: Jungle

"I know I'm town now" -- who ever says that?

WTF, try reading for context.

I also do like this

Overall I haven’t loved Persy’s pushes but I think their aggressiveness has been pretty villagery

I wouldn’t lynch them yet

[Chemist1422]

ok so I got home and can do full stuff soon but I have a few things to do

expect catchup around 8 CST at the latest

[Chemist1422]

What're your reads, Chemist?

I don’t have any strong reads but I’m going to do a full read through with notes once I get back on a computer

Someone should probably remind me to do this in about 2 hours just in case

I’ll read Persy now but iirc Duck/Lime was mostly NAI stuff. I don’t have any meta on Penguin.

Seemed really fake and forced to me.

VOTE: Rich

Policy or legit?

Policy on the persona.

It’s a pretty long ISO so I’ll be doing a couple posts at a time, but this feels kinda weird to me.

percy you're reminding me of prey mafia rn

How so?

I've been waiting for you to interact with me specifically because of prey. In prey, I was scum, I lurked most of D1, then came on late and helped push a stalled town wagon to lynch. IIRC you correctly scum read me for that. Here, I'm active early, providing content and making pushes. This is nothing like my D1 play in Prey.

VOTE: skitter30

I don’t like this push tbh, it’s a combination of self-meta and weird OMGUS.

Do you have any meta

along the lines of

This guy.
Look- you don't get a pass because you've done the bare minimum, answered my questions in fact but not in spirit, and promised to do reads (later, but only if someone reminds you to).
Give us something to work with.

I have no meta on anyone but Creature, which is highposting = town, or at least high amounts of content posts

I don’t agree with Persy’s self-meta case because the only point we can prove about it is activity, which has multiple other factors. It’s just as likely he intentionally highposting to dodge that meta.

percy you're reminding me of prey mafia rn

How so?

I've been waiting for you to interact with me specifically because of prey. In prey, I was scum, I lurked most of D1, then came on late and helped push a stalled town wagon to lynch. IIRC you correctly scum read me for that. Here, I'm active early, providing content and making pushes. This is nothing like my D1 play in Prey.

VOTE: skitter30

Whats the difference between town and scum for skitter?

This is also not great imo, I think as town they’d ask first vote later

haven't read since last ketchup

too busy with learning rimworld.


persi is kinda dicktown. no way power scum dances like he is. hes hunting. but i mean iys multiball so we'll see where he goes

every quote in this post is wolfy
every single one

I would gladly lynch any of {chemist, fusco} rn and I'm happy wagoning lurker penguin

hi to you too

you wanna expand on anything?

[Chemist1422]

Dunnstral only has 6 posts but all of them are pretty okay, don't get any weird agenda-y vibes from them

I especially liked their last post (600), shows a decent amount of thought process.

Do you prefer town or scum, Chemist?

Depends on the setup, but overall I'd say town because it's less stressful.

[Chemist1422]

meep meep at lunch

Penguin hasn’t done enough to give me a read on them either way

[Chemist1422]

yeah and yeah

Fusco is indeed scum but we can deal w/ that l8r

hi just popping in to say can we not make posts like this

like the job of town is to lynch scum so intentionally not lynching scum is ??? at best in most scenarios

[Chemist1422]

1. Chemist1422 - disappointing
3. Jungle Medicine - scumread, I outlined reasons earlier this game but they just called the read bad and ignored it when I asked why. they've kinda been cherry-picking things to respond to, as well as stuff like 513 which is chainsawing in an aggressive way and just a bunch of unexplained one-liner reads.
4. Persivul - slight town, their attitude in general is really unlikely for scum to do just because of how dangerous it is (probably poorly worded but w/e)
12. PenguinPower - nullscum, they were mostly inactive but I don't like how they pushed Dunn to stop lurking after lurking for a while themself
14. Dunnstral - slight town for reasons outlined earlier

to-do (I won't be doing these all at once so you guys can work with things while I work on the rest/do irl stuff):
2. rosterfoster
5. Rich Hedberg
6. Baezu
7. Creature
8. Fuscosco
9. ‪davesaz
10. DuckDuckJab
11. chennisden
13. Skygazer
15. Skitter30
16. Vorkuta

[Chemist1422]

can you kindly explain why yous alls jumped on what's kinda my rvs vote im toolazy to remove?

it's not hard

there's literally an unvote button

hi yes should I claim

[Chemist1422]

wk actually stands for weird knowledge

[Chemist1422]

wait people have birthdays?

huh

[Chemist1422]

@ Shoshin: chemist's change in his read on me didn't happen independently. He just followed the general trend. I was taking heat, he scum read me. People started saying

nah, persi's town

, he town read me.

It was a change while I was reading your ISO so this just feels like shade.

Hi I'm back, was busy yesterday so didn't really get a chance to post.

[Chemist1422]

That's L-1

I'll claim now unless y'all don't want me to

[Chemist1422]

Claim please.

^^^^

VT

[Chemist1422]

Claim please.

^^^^

VT

Wanna do something? I don't think this claim will save you, but you still can save yourself doing stuff.

Okay

Once I get home I’ll go back to my incomplete readslist

[Chemist1422]

Hey

Just wanted to say I’m sorry for being so useless

[Chemist1422]

u should vote persi

Give me a reason (any actual reason) and I probably will

Man this playerlist is lit
Idk if I should expect more of my favs to be on the same page because I respect their towngames or if it makes sense that there’s some paranoia because y’all correctly respect each other’s scumgames (if all of you are town, you know who you are)

I was about to I just wanted sky’s reason
VOTE: persivul

This is the only weird thing I found in Irrelephant’s ISO, it seems slightly like it’s caving to pressure

[Chemist1422]

Roster isn’t a bad lynch, they’ve been calling things “awkward” or “town” with pretty much no other explanation, don’t love it

[Chemist1422]

@everyone: Chennis and roster tunneling each other weakly: M/M, M/W, M/T, or T/T?

M/T or M/W, maybe

Did you see what I mentioned about you caving to pressure a bit?

[Chemist1422]

Yes

Anything about it you wanna comment on?

[Chemist1422]

Chemist, please vote for Persi. Voting me doesn't make sense when I'm the one person who just derailed your wagon when I could have had you lynched.

I’ve been parked and forgot to swap

Not sure where I’m going to go with it yet though

UNVOTE:

[Chemist1422]

Chemist, are you around?

Ye but probably not fully awake

Sup

[Chemist1422]

oh ok good talk

night

[Chemist1422]

Chemist lynch is good regardless of if we find more scum tho

good evening to you too

I'm going to stay in my corner making bad reads now

[Chemist1422]

Chemist lynch is good regardless of if we find more scum tho

good evening to you too

I'm going to stay in my corner making bad reads now

what do you think of hte fact that i'm trying to lynch you?

if it's not in my corner it's not important

aka i'm not going to go out of my way to try to not get lynched given the amount of time we have left

[Chemist1422]

1. Chemist1422 - disappointing
3. Jungle Medicine - scumread, I outlined reasons earlier this game but they just called the read bad and ignored it when I asked why. they've kinda been cherry-picking things to respond to, as well as stuff like 513 which is chainsawing in an aggressive way and just a bunch of unexplained one-liner reads.
4. Persivul - slight town, their attitude in general is really unlikely for scum to do just because of how dangerous it is (probably poorly worded but w/e)
12. PenguinPower - nullscum, they were mostly inactive but I don't like how they pushed Dunn to stop lurking after lurking for a while themself
14. Dunnstral - slight town for reasons outlined earlier

to-do (I won't be doing these all at once so you guys can work with things while I work on the rest/do irl stuff):
2. rosterfoster
5. Rich Hedberg
6. Baezu
7. Creature
8. Fuscosco
9. ‪davesaz
10. DuckDuckJab
11. chennisden
13. Skygazer
15. Skitter30
16. Vorkuta

where I left off for posterity

roster - scumread. just randomly throwing out stuff like "awkward" or "town" without giving much reasoning as described in 1205
rich/elephant - nullscum. maybe i'm missing something, but their iso was entirely fine except one point I brought up in 1204 that they didn't respond to other than saying I was more likely scum for it which is ???
vork - slight town. their mini-thunderdome with persy didn't feel like scum trying to push away pressure from them, don't think their "push lurkers" thing is useful for any reads but associations, and I liked their interactions with my re-entrance in 688.

to-do:
6. Baezu
7. Creature
8. Fuscosco
9. ‪davesaz
10. DuckDuckJab
11. chennisden
13. Skygazer
15. Skitter30

VOTE: rosterfoster

[Chemist1422]

1. Chemist1422 - disappointing
3. Jungle Medicine - scumread, I outlined reasons earlier this game but they just called the read bad and ignored it when I asked why. they've kinda been cherry-picking things to respond to, as well as stuff like 513 which is chainsawing in an aggressive way and just a bunch of unexplained one-liner reads.
4. Persivul - slight town, their attitude in general is really unlikely for scum to do just because of how dangerous it is (probably poorly worded but w/e)
12. PenguinPower - nullscum, they were mostly inactive but I don't like how they pushed Dunn to stop lurking after lurking for a while themself
14. Dunnstral - slight town for reasons outlined earlier

to-do (I won't be doing these all at once so you guys can work with things while I work on the rest/do irl stuff):
2. rosterfoster
5. Rich Hedberg
6. Baezu
7. Creature
8. Fuscosco
9. ‪davesaz
10. DuckDuckJab
11. chennisden
13. Skygazer
15. Skitter30
16. Vorkuta

where I left off for posterity

roster - scumread. just randomly throwing out stuff like "awkward" or "town" without giving much reasoning as described in 1205
rich/elephant - nullscum. maybe i'm missing something, but their iso was entirely fine except one point I brought up in 1204 that they didn't respond to other than saying I was more likely scum for it which is ???
vork - slight town. their mini-thunderdome with persy didn't feel like scum trying to push away pressure from them, don't think their "push lurkers" thing is useful for any reads but associations, and I liked their interactions with my re-entrance in 688.

to-do:
6. Baezu
7. Creature
8. Fuscosco
9. ‪davesaz
10. DuckDuckJab
11. chennisden
13. Skygazer
15. Skitter30

VOTE: rosterfoster

so far it's

{Chemist}
{Vork, Persi, Dunn}
{}
{PP, Elephant}
{JM/Shoshin, roster}

haven't read shoshin since the sub-in so might end up changing the read there

[Chemist1422]

rich/elephant - nullscum. maybe i'm missing something, but their iso was entirely fine except one point I brought up in 1204 that they didn't respond to other than saying I was more likely scum for it which is ???

It makes sense to me that you’d be a little confused by my response there
I was being intentionally opaque to see if you’d try to work to understand my perspective
Instead it seemed like you stopped interacting with me when you had decided you could feel justified in calling me scum
What reaction were you hoping me to have when you said “this is the only weird thing I found in elephant’s ISO”?

okay it's 11 PM so I'm sorry if this doesn't make sense but I feel like you were going to try to clear up confusion, not create more

[Chemist1422]

lolme