Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

[Wooper]

woop wooper

[Wooper]

?? wooper??

[Wooper]

still tw btw I'm gonna play on this account for convenience

[Wooper]

does it matter if it's still me?

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

i feel weirdly zen abt this game as well fwiw
reasonable chance i'll be lynched; it's kinda w/e
our poe is quite good and i'm having like adequate amounts of fun

we'll win or lose by the awesomeness of the lategame town


nibs is v v town but yeah his exchange with you was

SILLY

that's right, i used the s word

don't have a firm one rn
nibs/skitter/nor are clearly town
drdolittle/menalque are probably town
egix is explicitly scummy but i think can be solved via sorting nsg
nsg is scummy but sortable
wicked/you/a50/teacher/nips are the wildcards

Talk to me about why you have both of these opinions.

both of those posts include several opinions which I find fairly self explanatory, could you expand?

[Wooper]

[Wooper]

VOTE: teacher

[Wooper]

communal PoE is good
my PoE is a bit lax

[Wooper]

I don't have super strong opinions on them all and can't like super be bothered fixing that at the moment but I'm generally not seeing a lot I strongly disagree with

[Wooper]

{you me teacher wicked a50} Egix is ~dubious~ but I trust nsg's meta check and trust ppl to be able to read nsg

[Wooper]

that's why I left him adjacent to the communal PoE there : D

[Wooper]

Welcome to Open 798: C9++

Ice Sculptures

Moderator: nomnomnom

Playerlist:

1. skitter30
   
2. Wooper
   the worst
   
   
3. Menalque
   
4. teacher
   
5. Emperor flippyNips
   
6. Egix96
   
7. NorwegianboyEE
   
8. Volpe14
   Nibbui
   
   
9. Almost50
   ceejayvinoya
   
   
10. Wickedestjr
    
11. Bingle
    
12. northsidegal
    Blatant Scum
    
    
13. DrDolittle

= prod

Alive:

Spoiler: 13/13

1. skitter30
   
2. Wooper
   the worst
   
   
3. Menalque
   
4. teacher
   
5. Emperor flippyNips
   
6. Egix96
   
7. NorwegianboyEE
   
8. Volpe14
   Nibbui
   
   
9. Almost50
   ceejayvinoya
   
   
10. Wickedestjr
    
11. Bingle
    
12. northsidegal
    Blatant Scum
    
    
13. DrDolittle

Dead:

Spoiler:

No one... so far.

Events:

Spoiler:

Soon... soon...

I have suspects outside it?
otherwise: yes
I think you're fishing
stop fishing

[Wooper]

oops misquote

[Wooper]

look guys I'm a counterwagon

[Wooper]

I'm trustin town on my wagon to see the error of their ways here

[Wooper]

that'd be menalque

[Wooper]

heeeeey

[Wooper]

the bad thing is i would actually be really okay with a lynch on teacher but going off of my last few games there's a serious chance i don't live to tomorrow and so if the worst is scum that's a pretty high priority thing to take care of

although maybe i can trust that skitter would be able to take care of that? would like to hear her thoughts on that subject before the day ends

skitter's read rate on me across both alignments is higher than yours, but she has misread me as scum like once

[Wooper]

Is wooper high priority? I've never seen him be especially good at scum. Also, I think his likeliest partner is skitter, so...

RUUUUUDE
like I'm not going to argue but rude!!!
I have good scumgames sometimes, if I slip through the first few phases / am tryharding I usually get fairly close to or endgame

[Wooper]

What exactly is the case on teacher scum?

Hold on fuck shit this might be a scumpost

[Wooper]

nvm that's town motivated unless he's just scum with t-chizzle
VOTE: A50

[Wooper]

yes

[Wooper]

i absolutely hate playing soloscum
also haven't been rolling scum a bunch lately


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lategame replace in, didn't need to do much to win but did it

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replace in d1?? d2?? set to stomp until SOMEONE vigged half of our team, i was one rosterfoster off sneaking into a 3p i had a chance of winning

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=77970
probably my strongest scumgame to date /o\

[Wooper]

that is why they got rid of you >:3

[Wooper]

Sorry, skitt + whopper

Skitt's been on me/tw being s/s forever, but always wanted me over tw.

tw now stands for the wooper, btw.

this is a pretty interesting take
town!skitter has a better chance of sorting me than you later tho so i think it makes sense from a solving pov
that said i know we're not s/s

[Wooper]

Stupid dannflor/sheep team. At least I was already dead when you betrayed me.

true :c
did you read the outro of that game? enter and i were laughing about our twilight theatre the other day, it was a blast.

[Wooper]

i could flashwagon egix too
but i also like our little a50 wagon :3

[Wooper]

Sorry, skitt + whopper

Skitt's been on me/tw being s/s forever, but always wanted me over tw.

tw now stands for the wooper, btw.

Why is that AI? If she’s town then it makes sense to focus on one person(the one she finds scummier) rather than split her effort into pushing two with half effort

If she’s scum then she knows that and she just stays on you

Even if you’re town it still doesn’t say v much about skitt imo

it makes it look like distancing to the paranoid mind
or the unparanoid mind who wants to look paranoid
and doesn't consider that it's also town-indicative for skit

[Wooper]

did you read the outro of that game? enter and i were laughing about our twilight theatre the other day, it was a blast.

I know I did cause I was giving Nancy shit during the endgame . Can't say I remember it very well at this point though.

we were yelling about how each other were lousy scumfucks and we'd lynch the shit out of each other if the game didn't end, while playing tic tac toe in the scum pt

[Wooper]

just like ftr if someone dayvigged a50 rn it'd suck if he's town but it'd be gr8 if he's scum

[Wooper]

I think A50 red flip cracks the game. Otherwise, that's a decent take on the wagon. Honestly not sure how A50 green flip would effect me at all.

basically this

[Wooper]

God I wish I was scum.

same ;z;

[Wooper]

my take on what

i think whether you'd expect more from scum!me atm and like my competency level and stuff

[Wooper]

thank you ^^
i'd call my skill level as scum inconsistent, rather than low, i think

[Wooper]

i thought i had valid grounds for that wrt engagements with skitter but the more i think on it, :shrug:
at a valuable meta level i don't think i'm really capable of breaking my scumrange via Effort atm
i may do it through sheer sincerity but w/e

i can see how you're earnestly misreading me and stuff

[Wooper]

oof too real

@nsg, i think a50 is a worse sleeper threat. again allowing that i know i'm town. :/

[Wooper]

if i was like
putting more :]s in my posts
would you townread me

[Wooper]

ur goin down bungle

[Wooper]

teacher

(4):

Volpe14

,

NorwegianboyEE

,

DrDolittle

,

Almost50

Almost50

(4):

Menalque

,

teacher

,

Bingle

,

Wooper

Wooper

(3):

Egix96

,

northsidegal

,

Wickedestjr

Bingle

(1):

skitter30

making this vc pretty is a really interesting exericse
VOTE: teacher

[Wooper]

hi pisskop

[Wooper]

lol a50<3

[Wooper]

VOTE: Bingle

[Wooper]

quack quack

[Wooper]

i figured out why suddenly and with no explanation towns started eviscerating scumteams somewhere around the beginning of 2019

it's the morphogenetic field

i feel like this is somehow simultaneously incredibly intelligent, and fairly funny
but i don't know what a morphogenetic field is D:

[Wooper]

teacher

(4):

Volpe14

,

NorwegianboyEE

,

DrDolittle

,

Almost50

Almost50

(4):

Menalque

,

teacher

,

Bingle

,

Wooper

Wooper

(3):

Egix96

,

northsidegal

,

Wickedestjr

Bingle

(1):

skitter30

making this vc pretty is a really interesting exericse
VOTE: teacher

if a50 is town and teh scums were really pushin it i'm claimin so much postgame cred
who looked at that wagon and thought "wrow my own slot is the only person i townread on my wagon" first?

this wooper

[Wooper]

ahhh i did some fancier googling. now i understand why you were so good at nonary.

pedit: fair, based on some really unintelligent attempts to understand the opening paragraph of the wikipedia article i feel like the game might've used it in a pretty specific context

pedit2: i'm not sure how to answer that question with people words.

[Wooper]

i'm not sure if i townread teacher but i'm actually slowly starting to stop scumread him; i think if he's town he's on trajectory to alignment telling, if he's scum this is going to be exhausting - bingle otoh has actually been getting scummier.

his read on wicked has been kinda pinging me as well and wicked is another one whose alignment i'm really not sold on.

i think bingle is like, just as likely to be scum, a much more valuable flip, and is going to get harder to accurately read (/catch) later in the game

[Wooper]

i nearly choked on my gum. skitter's avi is exceptionally beautiful.
i'd request a wizard wooper but the wizard duck is so beautiful.

[Wooper]

I wouldn't be terribly opposed to a teacher lynch, but I feel more confident in Wooper-scum. I'm going to even the score.

Unvote. Vote: Wooper

(L-3)

i think this is more likely the scum on my wagon than egix.
@everyone if you murder me and/or i die a horrible death, please just keep sorting egix

i don't think he's towntold exhaustively yet but i'm not really scumreading him anymore either

[Wooper]

a friend of mine a while ago referred to rolling scum as "easier" but town as more enjoyable
i think i align myself with that, scum is less stressful but town is more exciting

[Wooper]

@volpe I'm off the table sorry. A50 is off the table. teacher or Bungle and I'd strongly encourage the later.

[Wooper]

and WHAT a sleep. I closed my eyes and I was unconscious for a while. It was a whole thing.

[Wooper]

Beats me but there's a whole lack of people scumreading him

[Wooper]

you're kinda tunnellish but I don't think you're wrong
maybe I'm tunnelled too

[Wooper]

I'm masons with

[Wooper]

I think the me/skitter s/s read is overwhelming contrived outside of like a couple of very small situations, it's holistically really bizarre

[Wooper]

don't u tswizzle me bungle

[Wooper]

weirdly nsg is playing something closer to openwolf than I'd expect to see from her but I also think this has been outside her scumrange...? Anyone else? Am I drunk?

[Wooper]

CANCELLED

[Wooper]

you're top 13 for sure

[Wooper]

EYES EVERYWHERE

[Wooper]

gonna sound mean but I feel like nsg is just being **slightly** negligent in her solving and I think it looks like misplaced effort but like, just don't locktown her too early

[Wooper]

could you elaborate

I guess I'm kinda wondering if you'll be reevaluating reads + pushing someone softing TPR while waxing poetic about how mathdino would be baffled had me thinking

I don't really think you're scum tbh but I'd hate to have you mislynch me and not have said I'm not 100% sure on town-you

I'm not sure this is within your scumrange which is why I think you're town. but I'm not convinced your approach to d1 is all that pro-town? probs best way to explain it

[Wooper]

Mostly meant her pushing me explicitly after softing / without much evaluation on teacher

[Wooper]

I mean she's scumsiding so why don't we just lynch nsg?
VOTE: nsg

[Wooper]

i don't usually go looking for power role softs as town without some sort of reason and i haven't naturally picked up on anything from you

again I was referring to your explicit push after Bungle pointed out I was really obviously softing :c

[Wooper]

this is the kind of negligence I'm talking about :/

[Wooper]

skit sometimes it's really not beneficial to respond to things in realtime when everyone's already townreading you

VOTE: Bungle

pedit: LOL

[Wooper]

Actually, what you want to accomplish with this line of questioning NSG?

It's silly.

what line of questioning

the thing about "vanity voting"?

yeah...?

don't think it's all that silly fwiw

[Wooper]

I kind of wanted to get a reaction out of someone who isn't you or skitter, nsg.

anyway should I be fullclaiming here or do we have the sense to lynch Bungle? I'm keeping shit close to my chest unless I'm actually gonna be run up.

[Wooper]

I can't read pisskop vry well

[Wooper]

I'm gonna try that thing where I don't do much til D3 then come back and obvtown and catch the scums and save the day

♪＼(*＾▽＾*)／＼(*＾▽＾*)／

Have a lovely few weeks everyone.

I thought I started so well

[Wooper]

yikes

[Wooper]

Um

yikes

we were a little out of sync, this reads better

[Wooper]

why skit nsg nibs side?

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

[Wooper]

VOTE: t...each...er....?

[Wooper]

ugh is this another one of those games where everyone fakeclaims

throw me your reads rn, I'm sleeping you

[Wooper]

*wobbles hand in a noncommittal fashion*

[Wooper]

kinda thinkin full claiming may be smart

[Wooper]

it didn't
@nibs

[Wooper]

lmfao

[Wooper]

i want the pagetop

[Wooper]

woop

[Wooper]

woop

[Wooper]

I AM A VANILLA TOWNIE

[Wooper]

thanks skitter

[Wooper]

you may be sighing to express relief, don't worry

[Wooper]

sorry for kinda forcing a dichotomy i don't really like; as soon as i realised people wanted to lynch in us and we were both vt i started regretting my strategy this game /:

[Wooper]

I like the point Volpe makes here. skitter, why do you think Bingle tries to 1v1 you if he's scum?

because skitter is never being lynched
it's a dumb false dichotomy and he knows it
this isn't remotely alignment indicative and if anyone town is eating this up as AI they have no respect for bungle's scumgame.

[Wooper]

he's like, already called a 1v1 with skitter earlier in the day and been totally ignored
i'm the cw and he's the only person who was falling for my gambit
why the fuck would bungle as either alignment actually think he could force the gamestate into a skitter/bungle 1v1?? it's bravado

[Wooper]

i tried

[Wooper]

2nd one is rly cute i'm saving that
"wooper dabbing smell proof" is the google search of the year

[Wooper]

wrong pokemon but this is very cute

[Wooper]

I agree that it's weird regardless of his alignment. Personally, I can't recall ever seeing scum exhibit 'bravado' in a game, though. Have you seen that? (Wooper you can answer this too)

it's like the entire premise of my early scumgame and probably a large contributing factor to why people i know well misread me a lot today.

can you give me a tl;dr of why bungle is town for you aorn?

[Wooper]

I feel like scum do the bravado-y thing all the time

yes
especially if they can do ridiculous baller stuff which makes them look like they believe what they're pushing without actually exposing themselves

bungle => skitter is like a classic example of this

not saying i'm really sure how to read it for bungle but i think there's like a v clear case to be made for why it's within a standard skilled scum player's skillset

[Wooper]

i'm starting to worry we're both town too yikes

[Wooper]

OH GOD I'M ACTUALLY TOWN

[Wooper]

WHAT HAVE I DONE

[Wooper]

agreeeee

[Wooper]

I'm getting to the point where i'm starting to wonder if i'm just ultra tunneled and seeing things that arent there

my tunnel's fading and I'm not really sure he's scumtelling anymore but I.. also don't really townread him...? I'm kinda ok lynching someone I'm heavily nullreading

[Wooper]

Full cop on Egix/A50 (Choose between in case of both cop in that pool and multiple cop shenanigans), 1-shot on Skitts/wooper if I'm lynched and flip green, I guess.

can I strongly suggest not copping nsg? her alignment gets clearer, nor murkier, after flips/reevaluation

[Wooper]

Given claims kinda no one

[Wooper]

no issues w Bingle's mech write-up. I won't do one because this isn't the newbie queue so I cbf putting effort into a part of of the game that bores the shit out of me

[Wooper]

I could happily run up Egix or wicked or pisskop but more claims doesn't seem all that useful to me rn and I don't think we have enough time to get a meaningful reaction out of any of those 3

[Wooper]

You're pinging me :/

I think we've established your pings on me broke months ago but ok

[Wooper]

what's that even meant to mean? you've scumread me with nearly no evaluation all phase and then at the 11th hour I'm "pinging" you when recent meta has you <rand at reading me? :/

pedit: pick from my lynch list, at the absolute exclusion of nsg

[Wooper]

Egix or wicked or pisskop

cop these if you lynch me

[Wooper]

Wasn't telling you, skitter.

I feel like nsg is actually probably a good cop if I flip scum here? Like, it can't happen, but her reluctance to lynch me OR townread me is weird AF. My only hesitance is she's a likely nk as scum too if there's an SK in the house.

I don't think her scum playstyle lends itself to this kind of high profile for a particularly long time; she's done it today and doesn't look towny (outside of the fact this is pushing her scumrange) and if she stays on this path I trust this list to reevaluate and lynch her on ~d2-3

if she reaches late game still alive and still throwing out ??? under-considered reads she's an easy catch basically

a cop shot here is a splash since she should be readable later in the game. Pisskop is intentionally obfuscating his playstyle. Scum!Egix probably = scum!nsg by shitty meta defence. Wicked keeps posting things that are p scummy then things that are p towny and I'm just not sure where to put him

[Wooper]

Actually pk would be my best suggestion

PK is my fav but I strongly dislike steering cops onto one target

Lowkey, I think today is a town lynch either way at this point. But I also think it's a town lynch that needs to happen.

I have faith in this town over many others to manage to come back from this. Regardless of who scum is, I think all of you have done a ridiculously good job of being town, and this whole game is hard not because people aren't readable but because people are too obvtown, if that makes any sense.

^^^ same, due respect, but I'm not gonna drive my own lynch over yours because I know I'm town / trust my capacity to obvtown later a bit more than I trust yours (tbf I don't have a lot of experience with your ability to obvtown)

but I'm kinda anticipating a vt flip today

[Wooper]

fwiw, that was kinda my expectation :c
i think you're a better lynch today and i don't really 'like' it but :shrug:

mena is probs best take for deepest wolf rn btw, assuming nsg is Just Town

[Wooper]

if it's any comfort i'm not really 'townreading' this conversation and i have a fair bit of conviction that lynching you today is the right path but i feel like my despair is probably more valid as a result of us feeling roughly the same

[Wooper]

oh no that must be frustrating as.. having your wife return on spookywe'en just seems like a recipe for disaster too

[Wooper]

cop/vig him

[Wooper]

don't touch n1 or ur stuppid:
skitter30
teacher
NorwegianboyEE
Volpe14 Nibbui
Almost50 ceejayvinoya
northsidegal Blatant Scum
DrDolittle

medium cop/vig equity
Wooper
Menalque

high cop/vig equity
pisskop Emperor flippyNips
Wickedestjr
Bingle
Egix96

ideally vig shoots into {egix,bingle} & cop shoots into {pisskop,wicked,mena,wooper}


pedit: eh nsg hard meta defends him, wagoning him won't really produce content, i don't think it's a valuable ending to the phase :/

[Wooper]

no
teacher maybe?
a50 not really?

they're in there for claims/softs

[Wooper]

VOTE: Bingle L-1
i thought my vote was here a long time ago

[Wooper]

cop/vig him

You don't bloody suggest both actions on the same target. That would be wasting an investigation on a flipped player

that's why i did a full list shortly after.

[Wooper]

me too.

[Wooper]

If he does he's pushing a blatant scum agenda, like repeatedly and there's no way to spin it otherwise

If he doesnt then he's just kinda meh and hasnt towntold and is only like generically scummy

Like it's possible i'm completely misreading the subtext but then:

Jingle's being obtuse apparently, and not on purpose, and managed to set off a bunch of red flags repeatedly and accidentally ?

p much yeah i don't really think we have a redflip lined up today

[Wooper]

wow that's a cute avi

[Wooper]

VOTE: teacher
Big fucking lol

[Wooper]

This is a guilty btw

[Wooper]

Oh.

[Wooper]

I don't think there's much I need to explain. I copped teacher last night and I got a guilty.

[Wooper]

I claimed vt yday to avoid any chance of being loln1'd and I copped teacher because he was very likely to be scum

it's fairly necessary for me to claim honestly today for obvious reasons so I'm functionally unlikely to get more than one shot off. bungle's fullcop pool was pretty optimistic and his 1s cop pool was like {me, you} and I think we're both town, so

sorry to disrespect Bungle's dying wishes but I went to hit scum

[Wooper]

for obvious reasons don't hammer yet. I think this is likely my last chance to contribute to the game so I'd rather do useful stuff based on my absolute knowledge that teacher is scum

[Wooper]

I didn't sincerely expect the two people on this list who are normally decent at reading me to try and mislynch me so yday was a tightrope walk of a phase.

I was p aware I could get the bingle lynch across the line, as soon as that dichotomy settled in I wasn't slightly worried

[Wooper]

I'm not really interested in continuing that conversation any further than restating I have a guilty on teacher

we're still running this phase out to a week+ then lynching teacher either way and I'm still gonna find his buddy/ies before I eat lead

[Wooper]

Soon as I saw the role pm come in I didn't think I'd endgame

[Wooper]

That's my gut reaction. This has 2 benefits.
1 if wooper is lying, we save our PR
2 if wooper is telling the truth, it makes incentives to kill cop smaller.

The weakness is that we have weaker associative since we dont know who is scum

scum lynch is more valuable than whatever you're trying to peddle DrD

[Wooper]

if I was scum faking a guilty on town!teacher I'd have **much** better plays than trying to drive the final nail into a mislynch we already basically had :/

[Wooper]

Why... when it would get resolved eventually

How

[Wooper]

Mass claim day 3 or 4 probably

and.......?

[Wooper]

don't let teacher get to L-1 I'm not done with this game >:c

[Wooper]

Nor has been the most obvtown for like 110+ pages

[Wooper]

I watched an anime movie recently

[Wooper]

it was called Your Name and it was not Studio Ghibli tho I normally like Ghibli movies only. it was really cute.

[Wooper]

skitter is town, SK in worst case scenario
why SL on Dr. D and why hard town on volpe?

[Wooper]

Ddl is town

I think I agree, probably

[Wooper]

I'm just asking the question, settle down. Nor having you as his sole nonmech townread made me curious so I wanted to see his reasoning at the exclusion of hard townreading any other slots.

Why is being townread so important to you?

[Wooper]

Hilriously out of my scumrange

I'm not 100% up to date with scum!skitter Mylo but basically I sincerely agree w this and won't reevaluate until Xylo

worst case scenario were being finessed by SK!itter30 but I still think this is outside her mb scumrange so I strongly doubt that too

[Wooper]

@Volpe why the fuck would I suggest other TPRs check/vig a slot I intend to cop?

[Wooper]

@Volpe why the fuck would I suggest other TPRs check/vig a slot I intend to cop?

why wouldn't you check A50 in that case (he wasn't in your vig/cop list and was a better check if you don't mind PRs)

why you checked someone that had already hard PR claimed

why you didn't do the good cop play thing of town reading a bit a slot you want to check before EoD

I considered A50 but I had a reason for choosing teacher over him. Why do you think that decision is so material that you are absolutely certain that my guilty on teacher is made up? I'm not following your logic jump here man.

[Wooper]

You were meant to take the hint volpe :/

[Wooper]

Whatever if you're town I think your reaction outed you.
teacher is still scum, with or without a guilty. no way nsg survives n1 with a full cop, and his hedging reaction abt who he targeted is clearly scum motivated

[Wooper]

No, I am a cop with a guilty on teacher and you are THE WORST at trying to keep me alive.

[Wooper]

you don't cop teacher as town. don't ever try to argue that shit tbh, I'm confident enough that I know how you act as a PR and I was rolling eyes at this.

you're like
literally incorrect
you're so completely incorrect and so ott confident that I'm not trueclaiming that if you weren't completely wrong I'd be convinced it's tmi

like the last dozen posts of your ISO are absolute sheer unabashed nonsense

[Wooper]

Sigh

they'll quote this post for "open 768 in one word"

[Wooper]

I've got some bad news
I am not townreading volpe anymore

[Wooper]

I've got some bad news
I am not townreading volpe anymore

more accurately: if teacher is town volpe is almost certainly scum and it SUCKS

[Wooper]

I'd say resolve teacher first tbh his claim was survivalistic and weird he's not all that towny and I can't really vibe nsg dying n1 with a claimed full doc out

the guilty was fake but Volpe knowing that is creeping me out - if teacher is town I'd basically just vig Volpe on the spot (having said that I'm wary we probably don't have a vig; it's a metaphorical vig)

[Wooper]

Anyway now I've pointed out Volpe looked TMIish he's going into flail selfmeta defence mode so :shrug:

[Wooper]

...lol
VOTE: volpe

anyway he also allegedly 1) is town 2) realised it was a gambit 3) has caught teacher via a gambit before 4) outed this, killed the gambit and tried to cash in before it resolved

this isn't a towny reaction and his vote is like tantamount to a policy vote without anything focused/alignment related

we can lynch this and call it a wrap

[Wooper]

I actually thought you might be a full cop which is the reason I played into the gambit so hard

[Wooper]

{wooper}
{nor, skitter}
{pisskop, egix, wicked}
{teacher} = town if volpe is scum
{a50, menalque, drdolittle}
{volpe}

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i think you slipped up responding to my gambit. by the time a50's came around you were wayyyyyy too far down the path to turn around on your response to mine.

idrc how you reacted to a50's. it wasn't a particularly strong gambit by comparison. i see a slip in response to mine, you'd better believe i'm gonna lynch the scum who slipped up

i'm sorry you probably feel entitled to this lynch but your reaction has been transparently scum motivated so

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unless you think me/drdol is a team

do you think that?

sure, maybe

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don't like try and pigeon hole me into certain conditionals tho
i think you're scummier than drdolittle and haven't weighed up your s/s equity

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i mean
it's fairly obvious

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anyway he also allegedly 1) is town 2) realised it was a gambit 3) has caught teacher via a gambit before 4) outed this, killed the gambit and tried to cash in before it resolved

this is where you fucked up btw

if you were town watching this fakeclaim unfold and seeing me insist on teacher not being lolhammered, having caught him via a gambit in the past, i think you realise it's optimal to sit back and let it happen

i had it pegged to watch your reaction and i think it was horrifically ill motivated

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you're totally welcome to call it boring now that i've called you out on your intensely scummy reaction but the fact you had an intensely scummy reaction is still there

you actually can't address the parts of this which i've pointed out are scum motivated. instead you're resorting to the rhetoric of calling my play boring which accomplishes nothing but trying to discredit me

we both know you can play the rhetoric game as scum

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I know your slot wasn't surviving for much but you could have tried to do something flashier

which tells you
1) this hasn't been a survivalistic claim, or
2) i am bad at mafia


i'll leave it w you to think through; you're making conclusions you want to make.

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or you actually think i'm bad at mafia in which case
ok you're not wrong but like
also rude

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what's your read on teacher then?

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you must have him as pretty hardcore locktown if you didn't see ANY value in waiting for his reaction before calling it out

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right now confirming that it's more likely from scum you than town you

yet you can't explain why this is scum motivated / ever my scumgame without giving extremely flimsy allusions to the fact you thought i was about to die?

nothing you've spoken about has been alignment indicative; you're annoyed that you fucked up and you're lashing out over it. sorry.

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What's the point of ducky fake-claiming here as scum exactly

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your reaction was pretty earnest/open-minded/good faithy
compare to volpe who publicly shat on it and didn't give it time to evolve

i actually kinda didn't register teacher was literally mechanically sortable after the nsg flip rip me

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If there is a non-teacher doctor would we want them to claim?

day before lylo at the earliest

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i don't have an answer for that

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UNVOTE: volpe is indeed town
I have no idea about teacher's alignment and am still irritated we didn't get a rxn from him

rest of my reads roughly stand, Egix/wicked can shift down slightly as they're other people's meta reads I'm sheeping

teacher stays where he is for mechsort - I very much didn't register he was entirely mechanically sort able

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Then you ignored my early posting and probably only skimmed my case on why you were lying but still is calling TMI?

Do you have anything else to try to convince me you're town here or I can just proceed to power lynch you?

I wasn't comfortable with you so I decided to ruin your day.

I don't really care if I'm lynched or not I'd just prefer it wasn't lategame because low effort is my jam

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i'd say if it's real lynch drdolittle and if it's fake lynch a50
and that nets you one scum
ol

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I'm really sorry you rolled scum here duck

I was looking forward to gamesolving with you

you won't tilt me with this, i'm not really high-effort and don't care as much, you're still wrong tho

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@teach i guiltied you last night

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:'{ pls take me seriously i'ma veyr strong pokaman

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sadly my efforts to seriously claim it were v much in vain
stupid volpe stopped it from working

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deal.

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Oh that was at teacher

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seeya later.

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I'm indeed town

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isn't that how pisskop always reads?

pedit: i kinda think you're towny here, but i wouldn't call myself capable at it

x(

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third time lucky ayyy
nice work wicked

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pisskop are you ccing cop
because i will cc your cc

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we're celebrating you being great, and showering you in cake and confetti and appreciation

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Also, I disagree with having another doctor claiming right now (if they exist). The probability of a DDD setup is much higher given that we know: it's at least a DD setup based on NSG's flip, there's no Innocent Child, and no second death last night.

agree sincerely

i am a mason tho so we have some IC numbers rolled

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to try and get a reaction out of teacher until VOLPE RUINED IT
dw your response was super obvtown

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VOTE: A50

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your music taste is fantastic but your alignment is fucking problematic dude

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oh yeah

i put on my red shoes and now i like your win condition

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i have no read on why you'd do that as either alignment

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i got a guilty on teacher.

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it was a50
and clearly teacher

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a50 faked a guilty on DDL to try and draw attention off teacher, his scum buddy.

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sorry, i like to amuse myself

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fiiiine
i faked a guilty on teacher for reactions; volpe fucked it up so i gave him a fairly enthusiastic push
he had a v v towny reaction

a50 faked a guilty on ddl then promptly withdrew it

wicked floated by with an ACTUAL guilty but he's gna hold it until late in the phase

pisskop and egix have been kinda popping in and not doing a whole lot; i kinda think they both look a little towny tho

skitter/nor remain transparently town

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no shes not ):

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did your shot fail drdolittle?