Open 768: C9++ [GAME OVER]

[NorwegianboyEE]

If we assume Wicked is scum then who leaves his remaining 2 scum teammates?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Volpe14
I mean... you thought you would get NK'd on night 1 but you're still alive. Not sure why you're giving up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My vote is on Wicked in spirit, but i'll refrain from voting just yet since we still have a lot of time.
Going to sleep now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Umm... Feels like we’re kinda at the point where this days lynch decides whether we catch all scum or we lose the game. So this is sorta nerve-wracking.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like Wicked’s post seems genuine, but i’m not sure whether i place more faith in scum being active and open-wolfing, or simply lurking until they feel threatened?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Umm... damn you guys, why'd you have to keep me alive until LYLO. I hate this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't like how Wicked has been toned down until Mylo, where he hits us with wallposts. So i might just vote Wicked. I'm still not 100% sure about this, but i think scum!Volpe deserves winning much more if she's mafia than Wicked does. So i sincerely hope it's not a mistake but i'm trusting Volpe over Wicked's claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not voting yet tho, just making my position clear.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked / Skitter / DDR
How's that for a plausible scum team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like just placing my vote now.
VOTE: Wickedestjr
L-2

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel like just placing my vote now.
VOTE: Wickedestjr
L-2

Please dont

[NorwegianboyEE]

Less boring math and more emotion and memes. That’s what i like to see.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I wanna win or lose trying to make the best actual decision

I don't think there's going to be any definitive answer on this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean the memes are good but not AI

Preposterous!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwegians vote on Wicked really makes no sense. Hes not a power town player, and self admits that hes nervous in LYLO. But he throws a vote there so casually after with some bare minimum setup. Of course, this is the read I'm least confident about

Casually? I thought about it for like 12 hours. That’s an eternity to me. x)

[NorwegianboyEE]

And these last few pages only cemented my decision so i don’t see why i would need to unvote? There can only be a scum quickhammer if 2 scum are outside of the wagon and Wicked is town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

wooper
volpe
Menalque
Egix96
NorwegianboyEE

Yep this is where i’m at right now. And looking back on it, except for Egix who was cleared as mechtown, i literally had all of these people as my TR through the entire game. So unless my reads have been fundamentally wrong the entire time, this is the townblock.
I’m not sure who’s scum or SK between the remaining players, but Wicked is most likely part of groupscum rather than third party. So he seems like the best lynch.
This also makes sense to me. Wooper was kept alive because of the WIFOM surrounding his slot. (Lot’s of times he was wagoned and almost lynched.)
Volpe kept pushing the wrong people and not scum. (Might be deepwolf, but if Wooper is town Volpe is as well, because why clear a townslot if all you need is a easy mislynch to win?)
Menalque just genuinely seems like town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Egix
If Wicked is scum who do you think his teammates are? And who's Volpe's teammates assuming he's scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Kay fine.
UNVOTE:

[NorwegianboyEE]

If we lynch wooper and he flips gf then volpe is legit and wicked is scum, if he flips goon then volpe is scum and wicked is legit

That info-lynch justification isn't really helpful since town has pretty much lost the game if we don't get scum today. That is unless we have a SK, but we don't want to rely on that do we?
So we should lynch someone who's got high scum equity.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So what i want you to do Menalque is to explain why Wooper seems like scum from your perspective.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And why you think or don't think Wicked is scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the fact that you're a swing vote points heavily in your favor as town so i don't think there's any scum team with you in it Mena.
I feel like Wicked/DDR fit the scum team bio much more with their overall calm and subdued behavior through the game than Volpe/Wooper's more active and engaging persona. I have trouble finding a third potential scum partner to both of these potential scum teams seeing as it's apparently impossible for Skitter to be group!scum according to some logic i half understand.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Team Alpha:
- Wooper (Groupscum or town)
- Volpe14 (Groupscum or town)

Team Omega:
- Wickedestjr (Groupscum or town)
- DrDolittle (Groupscum or town)

Non-team oriented:
- skitter30 (SK or Town)

- Egix96(Town)

Unsure:
- Menalque (SK or Town)

This is how i'm pairing any potential connections right now. Reason i'm pairing Wicked and DDR is because DDR has been quite opposed to a Wicked lynch.

[NorwegianboyEE]

- Menal + DDL if I had to guess. But that's presuming that Woop/Volpe aren't bussing him and I think you're the towniest out of {you, Menal, DDL}

I agree that DDL is a likely teammate to scum!wicked. Menalque might actually be the third one by PoE if Wicked and DDL both turn out to be scum. Wooper/Volpe can be ruled out as Wicked's teammates by a scum!Wicked flip, Meanwhile Skitter has been mech cleared as either town or third party. So that should be about the most likely solve for a scum!wicked flip.

If Wooper/Volpe are scum then i have no idea who the third one might be, common consensus might be that it's me because i've been TR both of them for a long time. But i know i'm town so it would have to be someone else from my POV.

[NorwegianboyEE]

here we go

Here we go what?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why did this game just kinda go dormant?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We lynching Wicked or nah?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Volpe/Wooper/X team doesn’t make sense from my POV because i have no idea who the third member would be. It’s not me, so who is the hypothetical third member to a Volpe/Wooper scum team? It can’t be Egix or Skitter. Definitely not Wicked. DDR nope. That leaves Menalque? Which also seems unlikely.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess it can, just doesn't seem likely to me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Remember that we need like 5 townies to vote scum if no scum is bussing their own teammate. So it makes sense for the mafia to sow suspicion on people that team up against one of their own.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Egix if you agree on voting Wicked that makes 4 out of 5 votes on Wicked.
Anyone wants to be the fifth?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't have much else to go on other than my belief that Wicked is faking a guilty, and seeing as nobody else was saying anything interesting i felt like pushing him a little. So far no response from Wicked himself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If we're all gonna end up voting Wickedest anyway then what's the point?
Going for a Volpe lynch feels like a longshot at this point, and my case, if I ever made it, would be biased against it anyway.

No, bad attitude, esp from conftown in mylo
The fact that nor said this and it *worked* is incredibly alarming

He's trying to make the wicked lynch feel inevitable
Why does town!him want this or promote this notion in lylo?

See that's your take on it. My view is that ever since Wicked and Volpe each claimed a differing cop result on Wooper, peeps like DDR and usually quite active Menalque suddenly go totally dormant and don't say whether they support or disagree with lynching whoever. I don't know what the scum strategy is right now, but the fact that people propose scum teams with me in it suggests that something seriously shady is going on and that's why i'm doubling down on Wicked. I really want his flip.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Skitter30
Alright, but if you think i'm scum then you should find good reasons to vote for Wooper. We're not lynching outside of the conflicting cop claims.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean this is quite simple. Either Wicked is scum faking a guilty on Wooper. Or Wooper/Volpe14 are the scum team.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or Wooper is godfather and Volpe14 is town.
(Ok it's not actually that simple.) But point is either we lynch Wicked or Wooper so i don't see what's scummy about believing one side over the other and trying to push the lynch through when there are 3 scum that can mess up the plan.

[NorwegianboyEE]

5 townies vs 3 scum. Or 4 townies + 1 SK vs 3 scum. It's going to take some strong persuasion to actually get scum lynched through the haze of the mafia's deception.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bingle and A50 both were suspicious of Skitter. I'm going to have to go back to check what exactly they were going on about because i'm not sure i believe that mathematical nonsense about "groupscum!Skitter" being impossible. Theoretically Skitter could have been faking the claim to kill A50 as an spontaneous reaction to Menalque shooting him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh shut it, i'll say what i want.
So what i got is that Bingle thought your lackadaisical behavior and later tunneling on him was scummy.
Meanwhile A50 was mostly TR'ing you except for when you were going against him and then he claimed that if PK as town then you would have to be scum. Then you killed him?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didnt i just fakeclaim killing him, according to you?

Unless you think me and menalque are scum together the fact that teacher is the nk is not in dispute, and i'm p sure me/menalque is impossible fron all povs

Yeah thanks, but these reads i just brought back up was mostly about your tone. However re-reading the mechanics it certainly appears that you cannot be group!scum.

- Volpe14 (Claims cop and claims to clear Wooper)
- Wickedestjr (Claims cop and claims to guilty Wooper)

- skitter30 (Claims 1 shot Vig and to have shot A50 on N2)
- Menalque (Claims Vig and to have shot A50 on N2)
- Egix96 (Claims doctor)
- DrDolittle (Claims VT)
- NorwegianboyEE (Claims VT)
- Wooper (Claims VT)

Orange

: Cop's counter claiming.

Yellow

: Claimed slots that aren't in conflict.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It is actually a bigger probability that Menalque is fake claiming vig than Skitter fake claiming 1-shot vig. Since a regular vig means there must be a 1-Shot vig as well. The fact that Menalque didn't specify that he was regular vig until later, (and he claimed after Skitter already claimed vig and shooting A50, before he backed off.)
I still think town!Menalque is very likely, but scum!him fake claiming vig (Or he is SK) is theoretically possible.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The fact that Menalque didn't specify that he was regular vig until later, (and he claimed after Skitter already claimed vig and shooting A50, before he backed off.)

is a bit suspicious.

EDIT: Added missing part.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Something like SK!Skitter and Scum!Menalque fake claiming vig to find out if Skitter is actually a town vig or bulletproof SK might be another plausible theory actually.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not feeling a townread on Menalque anymore. Nor am i all that sure why i was TR'ing him in the first place. My reads right now are something like this:

Town
Egix96
skitter30 (Might be Serial killer, but should be townsiding either way.)

Townlean:
Wooper the worst
Volpe14 Nibbui

Scumlean:
- Menalque
- Wickedestjr
- DrDolittle

[NorwegianboyEE]

I find it weird how Skitter doesn’t think Menalque is suspicious as shit for counterclaiming vig and calling for town to lynch Skitter before just like giving up ang going "oh you are town. Lol nvm, don’t mind me!"
Yet Skitter is kinda siding with the sketchy side.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Little pet theory i got here, but what if Menalque was probing you?
Scum is afraid of SK, maybe they suspect you are one, hence they came up with a CC idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So this is my gamesolve right now.

Cop:
- Volpe14

Doctor:
- Egix

VT:
- NorwegianboyEE
- Wooper

Serial killer:
- Skitter30

Mafia:
- Wickedestjr
- DrDolittle
- Menalque

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does that make sense mechanics vice? I gotta check the setup.

[NorwegianboyEE]

CCDDTTT
TTT = 2 Goons + Roleblocker, Serial Killer
It makes sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Assuming that is the true setup. We need to work with the SK’s vote to lynch scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

All this talk about godfather isn’t necesarry since there most likely is only goons and roleblocker. So Wooper is most likely town based on your investigation.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So Volpe. Assuming i am correct about the scumteam. Do you think we should lynch Mena or DDL instead of Wicked? Might be a better chance at hitting roleblocker.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also in case it wasn’t clear. I am pretty god damn sure i’m right about this. It explains Skitters odd behaviour, Mena’s CC on Skitter. Everything.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Exactly. It’s prob DDL or Mena. Roleblocker wouldn’t do a risky CC.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s going to be hard for town to clinch this victory because it’s 3v3 town/scum with a SK that has her own wincon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Right it’s 4v3 town/scum. So slightly better chance.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Skitter might be town but i highly doubt it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think DDL is our best vote today for getting roleblocker. He’s been playing it safe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sure have a jolly discussion you two. I’m going to sleep and catch up tommorow. Night night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like I understand Norwegian. Hes clueless. His scum team ft skitter proves it

Like this really pissed me off, not gonna lie. So if i’m right about this i deserve a STRONG apology in the postgame.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Skitter scumsiding as SK makes sense today because she has a higher chance of winning the game if town is lynched today and both town and mafia is forced to compromise with her.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like I understand Norwegian. Hes clueless. His scum team ft skitter proves it

Like this really pissed me off, not gonna lie. So if i’m right about this i deserve a STRONG apology in the postgame.

The fact that you still do not realize skitter cannot mechanically hundo percento be mafia (barring town fakeclaim) affirms my point

Did you even read the last few pages? I’m thinking Skitter30 is the serial killer. Not group!scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean I guess there's a small chance that it's not gg actually bc if this is sk!skitt then she might be 1s bp

Might be? SK is always 1shot BP. Like 95% of the time.

[NorwegianboyEE]

like page 196-198 just felt far too coordinated I think

Nah man, me and Volpe just have good zest together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

also agree lynching in the cop claims is correct
I'm a bit too drained to tryhard a full solve quite yet

No, we can find out who's lying by simply checking associates of any flip right now.
My vote is on DDL.
VOTE: DoctorDolittle

[NorwegianboyEE]

yeah fair point, probably BP, I think specifically skitt would be more likely to do that

still doesn't explain why she would lolclaim 1s vig though

Claiming 1 shot vig as SK is a safe choice on D3 when she either holstered or missed the shot on N1. If a townie was lynched today and she kills another town on N3, then she's got the game in the bag for D4. Especially if she thought she wouldn't be found out until then. In which case she can openly claim SK and cause havoc.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nor unvote please

No.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Unless someone can come up with an highly convincing game solve alternative i'm not budging.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i am but an lowly VT, from my POV i see two possible teams here. Volpe/Wooper/???. Or exactly DDL/Menalque/Wicked
Egix and Skitter cannot be group!scum
I don't think there are scum split between both of these groups. Either all of them are scum or they are all town.
I have no idea who the third member of a Volpe/Wooper team would be as i know i am town. Therefore unless there is some galaxy brain level of deception going on here.
DDL/Mena/Wicked are the mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If DDL flips Roleblocker. Egix should protect Volpe14, while Volpe investigates Skitter to find out if she's SK.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because i've TR Volpe the entire game while Wicked has been looking kinda null/scummish?

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Skitter
If DDL flips RB we've already got the groupscum by the nose. Then it's important to check whether you're SK or town.
Why are you so opposed to that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Is that outside of Volpe's meta? Pretty sure he mentioned he doesn't like changing his playstyle depending on his role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah the only reason i don't think you're scum and paired you up with either of my scumreads is due to the mech-clear Skitter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked can you get out of the mafia PT and post more here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Skitter really just sounds annoyed that we figured her out or that we might investigate her.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, our focus should be killing a scum today. Skitter will have to wait until tommorow.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Spoiler:

In Premiere

Based in real facts,

The true face of lady skitt:

[NorwegianboyEE]

So you think Skitter is group!scum after all?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh you were talking about Mena/DDL? Ok.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Egix you're like the tiebreaker here. Can you come and vote scum? Ty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also this is funny, i felt like i wasn't doing much helpful in the other days in this game. Yet i was highly townread by almost everyone. But now that i finally begin solving i get put into scum teams by the mafia and they are doubling down on me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

FFS Wooper if we lose the game because of you right now i swear.
Lynching Wicked is FINE, but if there's a SK and RB here then town will be screwed by us lynching the non-PR scum player. Because if Wicked is scum, then he's definitely not one of the scum PR's. They wouldn't risk a CC.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok but take a breather and come back fighting ready. You can’t let town go to the dogs in this critical hour Volpe.

[NorwegianboyEE]

...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Speechless right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

DDL i’m willing to compromise a lynch on Menalque if you’ll put your vote there. Because i also think he hasn’t been playing all that great. But it’s a weird situation because i don’t see who would be the third teammate in a theoretical Wicked/Menalque/Not you team.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@norwegian
im going to wait for the wicked catch up and then respond, is that ok?

Yeah that’s cool.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked would you be interested in voting Menalque? If not i’m probably goong to vote for you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Egix please tell me what you’re thinking. Your silence and indecisiveness is awful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Eh let's just vote Wicked.
VOTE: Wickedestjr

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sounds like Menalque is obviously mafia from your calculations Wicked. Why is it then your tl;dr conclusion that we should lynch Volpe or Wooper?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mena/Wicked/DDL all siding against Volpe.
Interesting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked/DDL/Menalque are the scum team.
Egix is Doctor.
Skitter30 is either vig or SK

That's all you need to know really.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you two already asked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked is CC'ing you btw. He claims to be a cop that got a guilty on Wooper.

[NorwegianboyEE]

did norwegian give that to you in the scum pt?

Lol that's a cute scumpost. I see you for what you are now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh yeah, brb gonna find the list.

[NorwegianboyEE]

- Volpe14 (Claims cop and claims to clear Wooper)
- Wickedestjr (Claims cop and claims to guilty Wooper)

- skitter30 (Claims 1 shot Vig and to have shot A50 on N2)
- Menalque (Claims Vig and to have shot A50 on N2)
- Egix96 (Claims doctor)
- DrDolittle (Claims VT)
- NorwegianboyEE (Claims VT)
- Wooper (Claims VT)

Orange

: Cop's counter claiming.

Yellow

: Claimed slots that aren't in conflict.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Although he also replaced in at lightning speed. I suppose he could have already had some idea what was going on.

It's amazing that you three have to rely on silly things like generating paranoia about his replacement to save the bad situation you find yourself in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked/DDL/Menalque are the scum team.
Egix is Doctor.
Skitter30 is either vig or SK

That's all you need to know really.

This is scum panicking that chem isn’t gonna check the pt first btw

Whatever you say bro.
I do actually feel sorry for you, it's not easy getting out of the swamp you find yourself in when one of your teammates does a bad CC and it's painfully obvious who is group!scum because of the confirmed townie Egix and non-group!scum Skitter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Menalque
Actually, you did a pretty horrendous CC too.
That leaves DDL as the undercover mafia man then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Skitter if you're a town vig you really should be voting Wicked here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If anyone that's not scum still has any doubts about the probability of a "Volpe/Wooper" team after Volpe's mental breakdown then holy crap you're bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm just waiting for the "Omg. It's all scum theatre!!!" arguments.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have no idea what you're even talking about.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol those nicknames are great.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'd like to add on to it with Egixuseless, Killer30, "Woopsie" i got mislynched.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh my god. I don't believe this.
Skitter30 is actually starting to make sense.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You most likely won't be seeing me in tune with Volpe's slot anymore cus if i remember correctly Chemist is that lurking mafia guy i met in a newbie game. And i basically just scumread him and wanted him dead the instant i saw him.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still remember how Skitter defended your obvscum slot in that game. Still have nightmares.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When Wicked flips mafia Chemist should investigate Skitter.
Egix should protect Chemist.
Then we decide on whether we lynch SK!Skitter if she's guilty or one of the DDL/Menalque scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If SK didn't choose investigation immune i'm pretty sure the result will be guilty.

[NorwegianboyEE]

When Wicked flips red i think DDL should be lynched next if Chemist doesn't get a guilty on Skitter.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Skitter
@Egix
You should vote for Wicked.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it's fairly obvious by now that Mena/Wicked/DDL are tag teaming.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like the worst thing is that if wicked is scum then I still don’t think norway is ever gonna vote outside of me/ddl one of which I know is game losing and the other one I strongly suspect is game losing

We’re literally in a gamestate where no matter what we do lynching wixked is losing

You're so desperate to paint a world in which lynching Wicked is a bad idea, when he has been objectively scummy this entire game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Worst case scenario, Skitter is on your team Menalque. But we can find that out with a cop check by tomorrow.
Otherwise i'm pretty damn sure that's the team and you're doing all you can to distract the swing votes from that fact.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Wicked is on a team in both of your imagined scenarios then why don't you vote him? We'll get rid of scum no matter who's team he's on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well thing is, from my point of view i know i'm town. So if Wooper is on a scum team, then who is he with? Volpe now seems unlikely, i know i am town. Egix is also conf!town. That leaves Menalque/DDL/Wicked. All whom have been pretty damn eager to lynch Wooper. So from my perspective there is literally no way he is scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked being lynched would also clear Wooper btw, since if Wicked flips scum then it's obvious he gave a false "guilty" purely for the reason to mislynch him. That's why Wicked's scummats are so worried about Wicked being lynched today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm actually thinking future game here, meanwhile Menalque is just spouting "Lynching Wicked will end the game!!" blatant fearmongering while i'm actually trying to solve this game so that we win.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well no, not necessarily, if wooper is gf then it actually makes sense I think?

No... no it doesn't.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No, i just don't find it a good question. Because i already mentioned how Volpe said he doesn't like changing his playstyle depending on his role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's an understandable position. I've played hyper aggressive games as a town doctor.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sure, i'm just saying your argument doesn't hold water for me. I can easily believe that Volpe would spampost as a town cop in this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sure, i'm just saying your argument doesn't hold water for me. I can easily believe that Volpe would spampost as a town cop in this game.

It wasn’t just spam posting though was it

It was some spam posting as well as a lot of content heavy posts

Do you think scum really leaves that player alive through it here?

Why not? Gives some strong WIFOM doesn't it. Which you're clearly capitalizing on here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not convinced of Volpe scum purely because of the fact that Volpe/Wooper seems like an unlikely team since that argument they had before Volpe replaced. Until you can tell me who the supposed scum team with Volpe is that doesn't include me and Wooper i'm going to keep pushing for my same scumreads.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's the wrong conclusion. If Volpe is scum with me and Wicked then you would be completely fine with voting Wicked right now.
I've been pushing for lynching Wicked a lot earlier than you did. Only when it did seem inevitable that he might get lynched did you finally start including him in your scumteams. Because you're preparing for the eventual "sacrifice" of your scum buddy to not make you look bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway, you should really vote Wicked everyone. I'm done arguing for now. Have a good one Mena, sorry if i'm being a bit aggressive. But i don't want scum to win this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wicked who is the most likely scum team from your perspective?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Agreed.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeah it's like some people here are trying to scumread Wicked and not vote him at the same time. Sounds like some real scum mental gymnastics if you ask me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would it suck less if we lynch wrong?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think the main problem here is that everyone has kinda made their decision, meanwhile Egix is the deciding factor and he's just taking a nice long hiatus so we're stuck in this stalemate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did anyone even catch on that Egix was crumbing doctor except for Skitter?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because you're talking about why scum would shoot Teacher unless they believed he was doctor.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well if i noticed someone crumbing doctor and i'm scum i would probably prioritize shooting that doctor. But apparently you think this is all WIFOM so whatever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

could be a matter of scum power roles? could be a matter of wicked being more willing to take on the audacious task? could be for more ridiculousness?

you're kinda asking me to answer an impossible question here; there's no clear trajectory, just an agenda.

Just SOLVE THE GAME. Gosh. Is that so much to ask for?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe we should all just lynch Chemist. Ever since Volpe left that slot it's become so one-dimensional.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lynch him, and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum but in actuality he's TOWN!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Please tell me this is sarcasm.

Yes.
Sry if it's annoying.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No point wasting any more time if the decision is already certain. If you vote Wooper i'll hammer it Egix. I'll just sheep and hope you two are right.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Wooper

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol i figured the team out but Skitter and Egix was big dumb so i just gave up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wait Chemist was scum? Damn boii.

[NorwegianboyEE]

DDL was town. My one mistake ((

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol don’t get cocky Chemist. I only TR you because of Volpe. I was actually getting ready to vote you because i thought it was sus how you weren’t doing anything.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well i was pretty sure on Mena + Wicked scum. DDL i actually TR secretly but i didn’t know who else would be in a team with those two because i hard TR Volpe. Oh well. GG anyway.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I knew there was something suspicious about how everyone was townreading me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was supposed to be the fool that would fail the town in LYLO after extensive mafia manipulation i suppose?

[NorwegianboyEE]

In my defense, i wanted to lynch Wicked for like these last 20 pages, but Skitter and Egix wouldn't budge and i was getting sick of waiting so i just went with the flow. Clearly a mistake but eh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hey, i wasn't really scum reading Wooper at any point really.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not if it was Volpe's PLAN all along that we lynch him, and when he flips red we think Wooper is scum but in actuality he's TOWN!

This is funny in hindsight.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was doubting myself, but if Skitter/Egix had been up for a Wicked lynch i would have lynched Wicked in a heartbeat over Wooper. It was simply their reluctance to lynch him that made me consider why that is and maybe i was wrong. etc...

[NorwegianboyEE]

Too bad you were scum Volpe, i wanted to believe in you. :c

[NorwegianboyEE]

Town lot because:

A) Scum (Wicked) played it very well, and
B) Town sucks at

basic

Mafia play.

I mean, check the dead thread. The first thing to do when someone claims Cop and give results is to go back and see how they treated their own innos. Volpe voted Teacher not once, and not twice, but THREE times on D2. An Teacher was supposedly his inno from N1??

Maybe you should have told that to Skitter before she shot you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Nor - do you think you could have seen wicked/volpe?

Wicked/Volpe
Probably not.

Chemist/Wicked
Maybe. I was actually starting to consider voting Chemist because he literally did nothing. But there were already a bunch of votes on you + Egix/Skitter already signalling intent so i just sheeped them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

@Nor: I was shot on N2, and he claimed it on D3. How would I have known he intended to fake claim before he actually did it?

Because if you're not psychic, why are you even playing in a mafia game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I still don't understand why you weren't suspicious of Menalque for that awful CC Skitter. He CC you as a full vig and killing your very same target A50, tried to lynch you, then gave up and started "townreading you" like wtf.
I seriously couldn't imagine a 1shotvig!you not reacting to that with immediately scumreading Menalque, that's why i was so convinced you were actually a serial killer.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn't even realize this was the longest open game ever in mafia scum. I thought this was totally normal for this site.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I lost so this game SUCKS!

...Nah jk, this was very fun.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And it also threw me off that you kept hard insisting volpe was town,

@Wooper was just biased towards town!Volpe because Volpe was claiming him to be town. He got played like all of us.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Chemist get's an F ranking for his performance in this game.
See me after class.

[NorwegianboyEE]

volpe/mena/chem you guys around for a shoot on tuesday for the alternate ending

You didn't witness enough scenarios with Volpe, getting flirty with me instead. This made Volpe so jealous she turned into yandere!Volpe and you got railroaded right into the bad ending.
You gotta try all over again if you want to go for the true ending.

[NorwegianboyEE]

volpe/mena/chem you guys around for a shoot on tuesday for the alternate ending

You didn't witness enough scenarios with Volpe, getting flirty with me instead. This made Volpe so jealous she turned into yandere!Volpe and you got railroaded right into the bad ending.
You gotta try all over again if you want to go for the true ending.

I think he won't get the references but yeah, I guess he needs to try all over again since he's the clumsy kind to not save before flags.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hope to play with some of y'all some day again. Wooper and Volpe especially.
I'll be back to read the mafia PT when we can see it i guess.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually you were really fun to play with too Almost50 but you died on N2 so i forgot to mention you.
Sorry.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, i just remembered this doubt i had that i never voiced. I had this theoretical team of Wicked/Menalque/DDL. But then i was thinking: "If DDL is mafia, why would he go out of his way to mech clear skitter?" So yeah, if i’ve trusted my instincts and TR DDL i might have gone for Chemist instead maybe. Oh well...
Another good old thought for the "in hindsight...!" Collection.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aw man, my mafia PT’s always end up like 3 pages long and i’m the only one talking. I always get lurker teammates and it sucks.