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Post Post #91 (isolation #0) » Sun Feb 09, 2020 2:11 pm

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Tomorrow i'll post my reads.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #1) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:15 pm

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I was going to share some reads, but nothing suggestive came to my mind.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #2) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:19 pm

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In post 183, Pink Ball wrote:Now that I'm released from my burden:
In post 91, clidd wrote:Tomorrow i'll post my reads.
Coming back to this, this popup was like newbscum wanting to say something out of pressure.

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Post Post #190 (isolation #3) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:30 pm

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In post 183, Pink Ball wrote:Now that I'm released from my burden:
In post 91, clidd wrote:Tomorrow i'll post my reads.
Coming back to this, this popup was like newbscum wanting to say something out of pressure.

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I would like you to explain this supposed ''pressure'' scenario.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #4) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:34 pm

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@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
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Post Post #200 (isolation #5) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 197, rb wrote:
In post 191, clidd wrote:@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
my reads are already given?

maybe you should read the game
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Post Post #201 (isolation #6) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 193, Pink Ball wrote:Pressure: "I should say something or people will suspect me for being quiet". Self pressure is a thing
Hum, meaningless.
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Post Post #202 (isolation #7) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:22 pm

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In post 195, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 191, clidd wrote:@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?
It would be the opposite: why not ?
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Post Post #204 (isolation #8) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 124, rb wrote:of the 3 people perpetuating the "rushing in" jokes, pink ball is the one who isn't actually playing game

hectic and CSF are joking and playing game at same time

pink ball's probably scum, hectic and csf probably town
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In post 203, Hectic wrote:
In post 191, clidd wrote:@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
Bla and Cat Scratch Fever are townleans. Surprised by the lack of analysis from Clidd, but it's early days, so I'll give him time. Oh, right, you're Clidd lol. Amrun nullscum? Mostly from how her tone feels off this game. TSE also a scumlean for some weird questioning/theories so far. rb's townish for sorting through the memery. Liking Pink Ball based on that clidd read just now. Looker nullscum because she usually has more to give by .

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In post 205, Hectic wrote:
In post 202, clidd wrote:
In post 195, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 191, clidd wrote:@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?
It would be the opposite: why not ?
if we're playing this game: why not ask anyone else?

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Post Post #210 (isolation #11) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:30 pm

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In post 206, Pink Ball wrote:Whait, clidd, are you spanish?
Yes, i am. No soy sospechoso, deja de hacer túneles.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #12) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:34 pm

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In post 199, Pink Ball wrote:Generally entirely wrong seems like an hyperbole just to prove a point without backup :lol:

But what do you think about the first pop up, rb? I know I shouldn't be looking at the join date to get a read, but damn it's too tempting
I can prove that it was not a sporadic comment, if you want.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #14) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:57 pm

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In post 211, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 202, clidd wrote:
In post 195, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 191, clidd wrote:@Hectic @rb, can i see your reads ?
Are you all caught up? Why ask these two?
It would be the opposite: why not ?
Because one of them already gave reads when you asked this question, and I want to know why you asked them specifically
It's more a matter of intuition, followed by curiosity.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #15) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:57 pm

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Hombre, para ser honesto: no soy un criminal, así que necesito tu colaboración si queremos avanzar en el juego. Se não colaborarem, vou mudar a língua para português, seus espanhóis do cacete.
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Post Post #224 (isolation #16) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:02 pm

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Well, I didn't see any rules being broken. This is just public information, anyone can see.
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Post Post #229 (isolation #17) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:06 pm

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Sorry then, i didn't know about this condition.
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Post Post #230 (isolation #18) » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:11 pm

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I could have proved it in three other ways too, without making references to other games. In any case, I accept the modkill, if applicable.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #19) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:26 pm

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Im back.
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Post Post #324 (isolation #20) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:27 pm

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Low effort yet, I will se what I missed.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #21) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:41 pm

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In post 272, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 260, rb wrote:also can we note that pink ball's only apparent scumread is someone they then unvoted for them "speaking spanish"

and then vote pink ball who continues to flounder and provide no content of any worth

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You don't understand my sense of humor and that's fine.

And you're tunneling me, that's fine too.

'Cause saying I have no content, while the gamestate is not content full at all, is just plain stupid. Whats your content other than "calling me out" and antagonizing me? Whats rooroo's content? Whats clidd's content (before I pushed him)?

You just have something on with me, and the worst of it is that you are wrong.
I would understand if your read involved the numerical fact of my posts, considering my low participation. However, this assimilation of a reactive point that, supposedly, classifies me as a potential scum for posting in a certain period of time, disregarding external factors, is quite strange and far from being consistent with a reflective intention, as you seem to believe. In others words, it would be clearer if your pseudo-pressure were carried out in a clearer way, without being overshadowed by the suggestive bias I felt coming from the vague explanation accompanied by your vote.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #22) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:42 pm

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I believe that opinions are valid, as long as they are justified in a honest way. Which, in this case, did not occur.
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Post Post #331 (isolation #23) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:44 pm

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But, of course, I'm not accusing you or anything like that. I haven't reached the point of analysis yet, considering it is too early.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #24) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:49 pm

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In post 330, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:damn clidd, do you work in academia or something?
Privacidad.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #25) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:49 pm

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No, i don't.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #26) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:43 pm

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Well, I respect you, so I will not refute these accusations . I believe that your first impression of me, unfortunately, does not reflect my real conditions in the game and it will probably be something that will distract you, if town, from making correct reads.
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I also believe that this trio discussion will not add anything to the game.
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In post 375, Pink Ball wrote:Thanks for being respectful clidd, I appreciate that. I'll disengage, I really don't want to get toxic. Sorry you had to roll scum with rb
No, I am just being respectful towards you. If I really do engage here, you will probably feel extremely offended.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #29) » Tue Feb 11, 2020 2:52 pm

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I will only warn you once: if you are a scum, you will deeply regret accusing me. The same applies to Cat Scratch Fever.
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Post Post #548 (isolation #30) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:14 am

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Good morning.

I believe that due to the conflict of interests yesterday, brokered by
RB
and
Pink Ball
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Pinkball
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RB
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However, to fully understand the progress of the facts, I will give my opinion on this case:
In post 103, Pink Ball wrote:clidd pop up was pretty scummy tho
Initially,
PB
was looking for some read that would allow an opening window out of the random voting stage, consequently, increasing the accuracy of the information that he would eventually gain by doing this, something that, in particular, I believe to be correct given the sporadic peculiarities of the first day. This would explain the actions in posts , , , , , and , considering that he did not yet have a horizon to be based on, therefore, spontaneously manifested interpersonal traits of his behavioral pattern. I made a comparison with the beginning of the game
'' Open 745 [Game Over] ''
and
'' Micro 840 ''
, where these characteristics are manifested in a similar way (he was town in both), distancing himself, for example, from the game
'' Newbie 1903 [Game Over] ''
, where there was a bigger concern in the initial phase (he was scum).

(
745
--> viewtopic.php?f=52&t=78246)
(
840
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(
1903
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In post 123, rb wrote:VOTE: pink ball

l e t ' s g o
In post 124, rb wrote:of the 3 people perpetuating the "rushing in" jokes, pink ball is the one who isn't actually playing game

hectic and CSF are joking and playing game at same time

pink ball's probably scum, hectic and csf probably town
The internal motivation to put
PB
as a scum was probably generated by an interpretive peculiarity, not necessarily the vote on me. This was clarified by the second post, in sequence, that characterized it as an initial speculation.
In post 183, Pink Ball wrote:Now that I'm released from my burden:
In post 91, clidd wrote:Tomorrow i'll post my reads.
Coming back to this, this popup was like newbscum wanting to say something out of pressure.

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In this post there is a great theorization far ahead of the observed point, suggesting a twist of the facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. There was no explanation of how the '' pressure '' index was measured, nor how it would necessarily lead to the scenario which I would post just for '' posting ''. Evidently, although the intention was to point out an eventuality outside the scope encompassed by the perception of
PB
, very little was developed to support this read and, possibly, get it out of the superficial sphere. As background material, I would suggest seeing my two complete games (
Newbie 1980
/
Micro 918
) for a better base.

(
1980
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(
918
--> viewtopic.php?f=83&t=81962)
In post 193, Pink Ball wrote:Pressure: "I should say something or people will suspect me for being quiet". Self pressure is a thing
In post 194, Pink Ball wrote:And clidd appearing just when I mentioned him? Lol
In post 375, Pink Ball wrote:Thanks for being respectful clidd, I appreciate that. I'll disengage, I really don't want to get toxic. Sorry you had to roll scum with rb
In post 445, Pink Ball wrote:So TSH is black flag, rb grey flag and clidd white flag, got it
In post 460, Pink Ball wrote:Goodnight everyone, hope to interact with town tomorrow! Reminder to see clidd's threats like the scummiest thing I've seen in this game, maybe in the entire mafiascum history!
As part of the supposed logical sequence established by an ideal scenario that, unconsciously, tries to confirm the
PB
hypothesis, these posts ends up reducing a large part of the possibilities to theoretically adapt to the previously proposed read. In other words,
PB
ends up not noticing, but his vision slowly begins to close, moving away from the rational and judgmental scope, as he adopts a more closed and direct posture to the psychological security of ensuring his point of view. It is interesting to note that it occurs independently of alignment, so this phenomenon can be associated with both:
town mindset
and
scum mindset
, depending on the analysis.
In post 462, rb wrote:
please be scum

please be scum

do you know what this setup is? it's an open game

NOW LOOK AT HECTIC'S POSTS
In post 471, rb wrote:and im gonna go fucking kill myself, bye

/replace
In post 494, rb wrote:calling me obsessive when your only fucking content is with like two slots the entire game while im interacting with like almost every slot

F U C K O F F
The behavior exhaled by typing has significant emotional evidence, demonstrating a deep dissatisfaction and anger after engaging in conversation with
PB
. I do not believe that they would actually be able to simulate a natural chemical disorder and transmit it via text, just as it is unlikely that
PB
's reactions would be premeditated to gradually increase the other party's emotional factor.
''
Scum team
? ''
no, unlikely.
''
Opposite alignments
? ''
possible, but remote.
''
Town alignment both
? ''
it is the most likely hypothesis, in my view, at least for now. This reminds me of the collision I had with a player, in a past game (which I mentioned above). In the end, we were both town. The post that starts the brief conflict is
59
.

(ISO--> viewtopic.php?t=81962&f=83&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go).

Well, this is a basic summary that gives the initial conclusion:


Pink Ball:
Town, but incredibly stunned. It is still a viable lynch if we consider the selective elimination policy. Of course, it would be interesting to avoid this.

RB:
Lock-town, demonstrated consistency in making their emotional conditions explicit.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #31) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:17 am

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And again, I was respectful about the case. I hope to see a significant improvement of PinkBall, otherwise, I will classify him as an element that must be eliminated in order to proceed with the game.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #32) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 2:26 am

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Now, changing the subject: @AaronFrost @Amrun can i see a brief read about associatives with TSH ? I'm still reading his ISO, to determine my position. My effort is still low, so it will probably take time.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #33) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:57 am

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Honestly, TSH looks much more like a joker card than necessarily a specific alignment. It is almost as if he wants to be lynched.
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Post Post #572 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:59 am

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In any case, it is valid to consider voting on him/they.

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Post Post #839 (isolation #35) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:15 pm

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Im back, I'll take a look at what I missed.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #36) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:48 pm

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@Pinkball
, are you truly sure about your case regarding my behavior ? if so, who are my partner in your opinion ?
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Post Post #844 (isolation #37) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:54 pm

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@Hectic
I hoped that you would be able to distinguish the discrepancy between this game and my others earlier. In fact, what do you think about the substitutions in my only two games as scum ?
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Post Post #845 (isolation #38) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 1:07 pm

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@TrueSoulHustler
I remember the two games that you flipped
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Post Post #850 (isolation #39) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:33 pm

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In post 847, Uncrowned wrote:@Cat

I ended with Clidd as weak town because, although I agree with PB that the opener was kinda scummy, and the lack of scumhunting, he's still shown flashes of effort that *seem* townie. For instance, I ended up agreeing with the towncasing he gave of both PB/RB and I think if he were scum, he could've taken a much different route to handle that situation.
Actually, in a
scum
scenario, I would have pull more aggressively against PB, in order to shape a wagon to lynch him. Then, I would justify the fact that I was not killed by the mafia as a kind of frame, allowing me to choose another misslynch for the second day. On the third day I would probably be lynched, but at that point two would be already lynched incorrectly. Before this, I would be sure to guide my partner to distance himself from me, and to be antagonistic to my reads. The other would be congruent. That way, after my fall, both would be able to fight for a healthy endgame.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #40) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:04 pm

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Hum, ok.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:10 pm

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Well, I intend to engage more slowly in the game. Eventually, I will post my final conclusion on what I observed and, obviously, my guess about the three flags.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #42) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 3:26 pm

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In post 855, Pink Ball wrote:If you know about the three flags, you know that your analysis in post #850 is invalid, right?
I didn't understand what a hypothetical scenario has to do with it.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #43) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:01 pm

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In post 855, Pink Ball wrote:If you know about the three flags, you know that your analysis in post #850 is invalid, right?
To be honest, if there is something invalid in the game, or rather, in the
forum
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Post Post #891 (isolation #44) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:49 pm

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Hammer.

VOTE: TSH
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Post Post #894 (isolation #45) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 893, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 859, clidd wrote:
In post 855, Pink Ball wrote:If you know about the three flags, you know that your analysis in post #850 is invalid, right?
I didn't understand what a hypothetical scenario has to do with it.
To answer your question, even with the free shade...

You said you would guide your partner(s) to distance themselves from you so when you get lynched, they both would be able to fight for a healthy endgame. That would be the case in any mafia game, but in this particular game, where it depends which mafia you're lynching, the game would be over if you're the white flag mafia, so your behavior could be different from a normal scenario.

So for a player who tends to over analyze the game setups as town, not only your hypothetical is not relevant for this game, but it seems weird that you didn't think about that.
I believe that I would not need to mention the white flag factor, considering that it is explicit that this decision making would not work with it. Even in the white flag scenario, the sides would only reverse, without any conflict. I don't see the parallel you tried to build with my ability to infer from setup information. If we consider the archetype of the micro in which I played, there were much more specific and difficult to assimilate particularities than here, which are only 3 general conditions. In that situation, yes, it was justified to go deeper into the mechanics, mainly to clear up possible doubts (as I pointed out at a certain moment). But here, no, it is only about the association between three members.
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Post Post #895 (isolation #46) » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:22 pm

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I am also not in my best state of mind to perform in the same way, as you probably noticed.
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Post Post #957 (isolation #47) » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:38 am

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In post 898, Hectic wrote:Clidd, I want you to know that you have a secret admirer. I won't specify whether you've played with her but she's starting a fanclub about you. I'm not even kidding in the slightest.

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Post Post #958 (isolation #48) » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:40 am

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@woodchuck321
Who are you ? I don't remember seeing you here.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #49) » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:52 am

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Well, my vote won't be moving. In fact, this flag in Hectic posts is making it difficult for me to read.
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Post Post #967 (isolation #50) » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:03 am

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Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #51) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:21 pm

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I will consult my notebook.
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Post Post #990 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:21 pm

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Plus: I am disappointed Hectic.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:23 pm

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But I confess, it also crossed my mind the strong possibility that TSH was a black flag.
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Post Post #993 (isolation #54) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:23 pm

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In post 991, Hectic wrote:
In post 990, clidd wrote:Plus: I am disappointed Hectic.
lul, about what, clidd?

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Post Post #995 (isolation #55) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:40 pm

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Arg.. Too much information in my head. I believe I will follow your vote here, Hectic. That move of yours, near the end, was extremely risky considering that
TSH
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scum! Hectic
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Post Post #996 (isolation #56) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:43 pm

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In the meantime, I'll be comfortable if we eliminate Skygazer.
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Post Post #997 (isolation #57) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:44 pm

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Also
@PinkBall
what are your current reads ?
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Post Post #998 (isolation #58) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 982, the worst wrote:
vote count 1.18


TrueSoulHustler (7)
: Amrun, AaronFrost, clidd, Skygazer, Uncrowned, Cat Scratch Fever, Pink Ball
Skygazer (3)
: Blatant Scum, Hectic, woodchuck321
Amrun (3)
: rooroo, Looker, TrueSoulHustler

not voting:

This phase ends in (expired on 2020-02-18 08:00:00)

mod notes: quack.
Hum, the ideal scenario would be to split two votes into separate wagons, and one in the main. Or two in the main and only one out. In any case, there is, as a rule, at least 1
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If I have to do a quick guess, I would discard
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CSF
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Amrun
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:17 pm

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I believe that my method is more direct and, perhaps, accurate. But we can do it your way too,
PB
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Post Post #1015 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:25 pm

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I'm going to rest my brain, so I prefer not to engage in now. Regardless of what I speculated, it would be better to collectively decide on a common lynch.
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #61) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:27 pm

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The preference I mentioned continues, anyway.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #62) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:29 pm

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If I'm in a good mood, yes.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #63) » Wed Feb 19, 2020 4:32 pm

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So, see you guys tomorrow.
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #64) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:58 am

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In post 1001, Skygazer wrote:omfg im so stoned



clidd why do u want me gone
It's not personal, just a suggestion.
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Post Post #1026 (isolation #65) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1002, Skygazer wrote:also why r u townreading uncrowned
Intuition. The right question would be:
"why not ?"
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #66) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
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Post Post #1028 (isolation #67) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 1024, Uncrowned wrote:Hm, are there any newer players in this lobby? That looks like a newb!scum NK to me. Possibly an attempt at playing off myself/Looker conflict

I thought Looker was scum tbh so this is beneficial

Amrun pushed TSH early so I doubt she's scum @Clidd
Hum, so ? It is not difficult to manufacture, considering that the game intent of TSH was tendentious from the beginning. "
Buss
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Post Post #1030 (isolation #68) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:15 am

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Big risky/Big reward. Whatever, if you want the lynch policy go ahead.

Rooroo/Skygazer/BlantantScum
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #69) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:30 am

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@
Hectic
When you get back, I want to see your current
PB
and
Amrun
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #70) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:55 am

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In post 1032, Amrun wrote:
In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
It doesn't pay. If Hectic defended the gray flag, hypothetically, and failed to redirect the lynch, he would be suspicious for the attempt the next day. In a game state where you only need one more scum elimination to win, this move would not be characteristic of
scum!Hectic
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Post Post #1047 (isolation #71) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 1040, Amrun wrote:
In post 1033, clidd wrote:
In post 1032, Amrun wrote:
In post 1027, clidd wrote:
In post 1014, Amrun wrote:
In post 967, clidd wrote:Skygazer looks like a last-minute counter-wagon. I suggest keeping the vote on TSH.

Clidd, why are we going from this to wanting to kill Sky?
I believe that the speculation about a counter-wagon involving this player was incorrect, otherwise, TSH would be the white flag and Hectic, for having tried to change the direction in the last minutes, would be the gray/black flag.
Why are scum not likely to try and redirect a grey flag lynch?
It doesn't pay. If Hectic defended the gray flag, hypothetically, and failed to redirect the lynch, he would be suspicious for the attempt the next day. In a game state where you only need one more scum elimination to win, this move would not be characteristic of
scum!Hectic
to do.
I don’t think Hectic is scum. There are much less obvious ways to do it, though. You were asserting that scum likely bussed and I want to know why because that’s not how I see it.
How do you see, then ? I do not believe that it was clear these other
'' ways ''
that you unconsciously theorized, but it is evident that the method of diverting attention from
TSH
(more precisely
TSE
), sooner or later, would result in their own lynch. Therefore, it would be more beneficial if one of the flags used this device to appear '' justifiable '' when voting for they, thus being in a better position the next day.
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #72) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:20 am

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I had a flashback from the player
Espeonage
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #73) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1043, AaronFrost wrote:Currently working on a reread/wagon analysis, stay tuned folks
Ok, Waiting.
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #74) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1042, Pink Ball wrote:I'll do some work tonight with TSH' posts that could be good to analyze. I don't think they expected to get lynched since they were the gray flag and not the black, so a push from them after their wagon starting to get some traction could be telling. TSE is super literal, I think we can win by reading him.
Ok, waiting².
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Post Post #1051 (isolation #75) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:25 am

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I will focus on other events for now. When the analyzes are ready, we can discuss and, consequently, enter into a consensus. This will be
plan A
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plan B
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Post Post #1052 (isolation #76) » Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:27 am

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Anyone who wants to collaborate is at ease too.
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #77) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:21 am

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Actually, the only difference is that I am overloading my analytical skills by engaging with multiple games, while remaining more apathetic here.
Scum! Clidd
would win here for the ease of nulls lynchs that this playerlist has, especially by eliminating the strongest players vocally (like Hectic, for example), to force misslynch due to the lack of antagonization. Of course I will not criticize your deductive intuition,
PB
, but it is illogical for me to be inactive in an alignment that has 3 players, now 2, against an overwhelming majority of towns. You have read my past games (closed), and you are probably aware that this type of thing doesn't fit my fetio.
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #78) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:22 am

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If you want, we can start a wagon on me, but only if you commit to being lynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #79) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:28 am

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''After'' doesn't exist. Im talking about right here, right now.
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #80) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:02 am

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And your theorizing of the
scum!Clidd
scenario? disappeared?
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #81) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:05 am

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You used several posts to come to a basic conclusion about the lynch policy I quoted.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #82) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:40 am

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I have already read this post, and that's exactly what I'm questioning: how confident are you in your read about me
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #83) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:53 am

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I'm talking if if I provided the conditions for you to lynch me, would you be able to accept ?
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #84) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:54 am

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And be lynched, the next day, of course.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #85) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:03 am

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In post 0, the worst wrote:
Open 771

Pollock's Flag

Backup mod: Nancy Drew 39

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Original Playerlist:
  1. Amrun
  2. AaronFrost
  3. Uncrowned
  4. woodchuck321 rep. rb
  5. Blatant Scum
  6. Hectic
  7. Creature
    Skygazer
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  10. clidd
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  12. Cat Scratch Fever
  13. Looker
Flips & Reveals:
Spoiler:
  1. TrueSoulHustler, lynched day one, was a
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Not yet, but I want to know if you really want to die for this lych.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #86) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:04 am

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Ye s, i have to rest.
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #87) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:10 am

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Let's do it VOTE: Clidd
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #88) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:33 am

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Hum, no. I just want to eliminate you from the game at this point. I know you're a town, but I want you to feel the feeling of being wrong.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #89) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:35 am

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This will cost the lives of 4 players, by the way.
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #90) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:57 am

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In post 0, the worst wrote:
Open 771

Pollock's Flag

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Original Playerlist:
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  6. Hectic
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  10. clidd
  11. Pink Ball
  12. Cat Scratch Fever
  13. Looker
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Spoiler:
  1. TrueSoulHustler, lynched day one, was a
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Im waiting for the votes on me.
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #91) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:06 am

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Perhaps PB is scum, and my impression is wrong. Anyways, I will not change my posture in relation to my lynch today, as well as his tomorrow.
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Post Post #1139 (isolation #92) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:08 am

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Hum, ok.
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Post Post #1145 (isolation #93) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:31 am

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Well, my vote is probably not going to change. Feel free to follow Plan B (which includes the lynch policy), or vote on me.
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #94) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:34 am

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Nothing, so you should follow plan B. I’m only offering two options to be polite.
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #95) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:37 am

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Yes, plan B includes Blatant Scum. The self-vote is more of a temporary instance if you have doubs about plan B.
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Post Post #1150 (isolation #96) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:45 am

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To be honest, the presence of PB was a confusing factor, for me, in this game. Things could have flowed more naturally if the RB had continued.
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Post Post #1151 (isolation #97) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:48 am

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I believe that from the moment they asked to leave, that's where things went uninteresting to me. Much of my resolutory stimulus was gone.
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #98) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:04 pm

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Anyways, just vote on Blatant and probably the game will end.
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Post Post #1156 (isolation #99) » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:56 pm

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Whatever VOTE: Blatant Scum
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #100) » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:05 pm

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UNVOTE: Titus
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #101) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:24 am

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Hum.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #102) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:39 am

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Im thinking.
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #103) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:17 am

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Nevermind, I remembered that I am low energy in this game.

VOTE: Titus
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Post Post #1233 (isolation #104) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:19 am

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In post 1199, Pink Ball wrote:By the way my plan had a hidden purpose: see how CSF reacted to it 'cause I thought deeply inside that this was her scumgame, but her not agreeing with my plan makes no sense unless she's scum with Sky.

So could you do me a favor and follow my lead? Let's lynch BS today, tomorrow is between Sky and me gladiator style, and if Sky survives, lynch her the next day. If the game hasn't ended by that time, it's Uncrowned and clidd. I mean we could save everyone's time and lynch clidd today but you guys love not lynching scum :p
Theorizing far ahead of the facts. You'll hit your head on the wall.
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #105) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:23 am

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Lynching the BS was one of the most obvious things in my plan B, something I suggested with 5 minutes within day 2.
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #106) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:25 am

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Sky too, but Uncrowned isn't scum zzz.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #107) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:26 am

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It seems that every post from PB makes me lose IQ, lol.
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #108) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 7:27 am

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It has reached a point that I can no longer imagine
town!PB
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #109) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 8:41 am

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In post 1238, Pink Ball wrote:
In post 1237, clidd wrote:It has reached a point that I can no longer imagine
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with such a mental retardation.
Nice
Do you think I'm kidding ?
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #110) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:14 am

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In post 1241, Pink Ball wrote:Good luck solving this guys, I'm gonna prod dodge until the game is over. Just tell me where I have to vote.
The cat ate your tongue ?
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #111) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:16 am

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What makes me most uncomfortable is the illusory image you try to convey. None of your reasoning is authentic, you basically copied the basic lynch policy from what I mentioned in my plan B.
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #112) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:17 am

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AND ? delay is involved in retroactive reasoning. Which is exactly what you are demonstrating here.
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #113) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:18 am

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You're pathetic. It took hours to you assimilate a point that I discovered in minutes.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #114) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:20 am

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The fact that I am not a scum only intensifies how bad you are in your reads.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #115) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:21 am

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Anyway, modkill here on me. I've seen enough, I won't be able to continue with this game.
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #116) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 1260, Pink Ball wrote:You have no justification, don't act like you do.
So, making RB leave was justified, right?
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #117) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:23 am

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You basically made the game miserable for me to had fun. If RB were here, I would be able to play normally.
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #118) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:24 am

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Victimization, pathetic.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #119) » Sun Feb 23, 2020 9:25 am

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Well, I'm going to walk away. Bye.

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