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- A Fourth
Open 783: We Need a Fourth (Game over)
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Open 783: We Need a Fourth (Game over)
Open 783
Players:Last edited by Kerset on Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:55 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Rules
Borrowed from Plotinus
- Follow all site rules.
- – My mod colour is FF8000; i will cut off your fingers for using it.Mod colour
- - Don’t be a dick. This is a heated game but toxicity will not be tolerated. Attack the play not the player. If your fellow players tell you to stop, you must stop. If you do not stop, I will tell you to stop. If you still do not stop, you will be force-replaced. Asking people to stop voting you or to stop scumhunting you entirely doesn't count for this rule and you may find yourself lynched if you try it.Behaviour
- - You may not talk to each other about this game outside of threads I have created for this purpose. You may not talk about other ongoing games in this thread.Don't talk about ongoing games
- - are of the devil, but they are permitted behind spoilers if clearly labelled as such.Animated GIFs
- - is also of the devil, keep it 70+ please.Tiny text
- - is against the rules. Saying that you rolled a dice is fine, using dice tags or random.org is not.Provable randomness
- - by yourself is fine. Claiming scum with another player is against the rules. Claiming scum with bot is fine.Claiming scum
- - is forbidden. Breadcrumbing is okay.Cryptography
- - You have about 72 hours to confirm your role and your alignment by PM. Game will start sooner if at least 7 players confirms. Posting in a private topic counts as confirmation.Confirmation
- - Day lasts 7 IRL days. Extensions may be granted if there are replacements.Days
- - You must post at least once every 48 hours or I will Prod you. You then have 48 hours to post in the game thread or I will replace you. A player who has been prodded 3 times will be subject to replacement with no further notice. If you come back before I find a replacement, you can stay. Players can request me to prod somebody early. This will only count as an official prod if you don't post before you would have been due for a prod. If you haven't posted in the 24 hours before the thread is locked for night, you must reply to the night start PM or you will be replaced during the night.Activity
- - If you need to be absent for longer than this, you should declare V/LA in bold in the thread like this:Vacation/Limited Access@Mod: I will be v/la until Thursday. While you are V/LA, you will be nudged once every 54 hours. Two nudges equals one prod. If you have not posted game advancing content in 5 days, regardless of V/LA status, you will be replaced.
- - A naked "prod dodge" does not reset the prod timer. To avoid being prodded/replaced for inactivity, include some game advancing content in your prodges, such as "got prodded; xxxx is still scum."Prodging
- - You may not quote (or copy paste) any private information into the thread, including your role PM and any mod communication.Quoting
- - Votes must be in bold in the format VOTE: Kerset or Vote: Kerset. Strong preference for using vote tags instead of bold tags. Unvotes are nice but not required. If I think it’s a vote, it’s a vote, no tricks. Type VOTE: Kerset to vote and UNVOTE: Kerset to unvote.Voting
- - Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to lynch somebody. Lynches are compulsive. If nobody reaches majority by deadline, outcome will be determined by setup.Lynching
- Begins when a majority is reached and lasts until I lock the thread. You're still alive until I flip you so you can talk in any game threads you have access to until then, but no votes or unvotes will be counted.Twilight
- Night lasts at least 48 hours. The night phase can be shortened if every living player -- even those with no night actions -- agrees to it and if I'm not busy.Night
- - By default there is daytalk.Daytalk
- You may submit actions via PM (if town) or PT (if scum). If the actions are not submitted by the deadline then you do nothing. You can change your mind as many times as you like before the deadline.Action submissions
- If I don't hear from you about your night actions, I'll PM you 24 hours before the deadline. This doesn't count as a prod. If I still don't hear from you, you will take no action.Reminders
- - Let me know if you want a private thread to store your thoughts and feedback for the other players. This thread will be made public immediately after the game. You may draft posts in your notes PT but you may not talk about your notes PT in public. You definitely may not use the notes PT to demonstrate that you've had a town mindset in private all along; just put your town mindset in public to begin with and keep your notes to yourself.Notes PT
- - this particular game, not some future one, and keep it fun!Play to win
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Bot wrote:Welcome! Because of decreasing number of players willing to play open set-ups, MS decided to design highly advanced artificial intelligence, which is going to replace and surpass human players. It is me! I already prepared the best possible algorithm to break this poor set-up and i am 100% sure that we are going to win this game! Make sure to nominate me for Paragon after my glorious victory.-
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In post 30, Klick wrote:@Kerset: If TownBot only has one vote on them at deadline and they are the lynch, how does it resolve its two kills?I will use dice tag to pick kill for him.-
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In post 61, Klick wrote:@Kerset: Does the above rule apply even on Day 2?It does-
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I am not the setup designer but sorry that i didn't check all possibilities correctly. There wasn't any appropriate way to fix this when game was ongoing. Any "clarification" would put scum on disadvantage, because NK was already playing towards present setup win conditions and he would be harmed if he would need to change his exposed strategy. They only way to correct this would be to change rules and reroll alignments.
If you all want a rematch then we can make such, this time with proper rules. If not then this game ends as a draw.-
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Feel free to give your suggestion. Mine would beIn post 71, Not Known 15 wrote:
It SHOULD yes. Unfortunately, the clauses are missing Day 1 or In LYLO, whilst others dont.In post 70, Klick wrote:It should be clear what was intended by the setup!
And the deadline problem is also not resolved in the rules. The setup is far from perfect I am afraid. I won`t do a rematch right now before knowing what the revised rules are... especially about that deadline votes problem.
Day 1,If the bot is lynched and is Town, the Bot will immediately shooteveryone expect person, who placed last vote on him.
Day 1,If the bot is lynched and is Mafia, the partner selects someone to reveal.
Here, if bot gets lynched with a single vote via deadline, everyone who haven't voted him will die. There is no way players find this optimal way to play. Also if bot gets lynched with a 2 votea via deadline then one person, who haven't voted him basically agrees to die, which is makes no sense for him either.-
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Sure, i can change that.In post 74, Not Known 15 wrote:
Yeah thats what I feared. Scum can still go for the lynch town bot thingy... by not voting and then quickly voting seconds before deadline, making this a speed contest(and in this case, if they feel they would lose otherwise(town partner of bot is convinced of conspiracy). I`d rather not even allow this happening.In post 73, Kerset wrote:Here, if bot gets lynched with a single vote via deadline, everyone who haven't voted him will die. There is no way players find this optimal way to play. Also if bot gets lynched with a 2 votea via deadline then one person, who haven't voted him basically agrees to die, which is makes no sense for him either.
Here`s a better idea:
Lynching rules change: If no lynch is achieved at deadline on Day 1, the team controlling the bot wins.
If no lynch is achieved at deadline on Day 2, Mafia wins.(these rules arent even part of the original setup, better to change them majorly...)
Day 1, If the bot is lynched and is Town, the Bot will immediately shoot everyone expect the person who hammered it.
Day 1, If the bot is lynched and is Mafia, the partner selects someone to reveal.-
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