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Post Post #3891 (isolation #200) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:47 pm

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In post 3745, PenguinPower wrote:I think this is where Listmods Unite.
Male me one, because I really want to be in this alliance. :P

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Post Post #3892 (isolation #201) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 5:59 pm

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In post 3750, Menalque wrote:I am a PR

I have results suggesting that datisi and bingle may not be scum although it’s not conclusive, it’s more strongly indicative of bingle!notscum than it is for datisi
This is a hard puzzle for me to solve.

Tracker doesn't get "inconclusive" results. You either had the, visiting someone, went nowhere, or no result.
Doctor doesn't even get such results at all.
JK doesn't get "someone not scum" unless there's exactly one Scum alive, which wasn't the case last night (or the night before)
Hider probably gets the "not scum" but doesn't explain the Binge more so than Datisi bit
Commuter (although very unlikey) doesn't give you such info
GS gives you either has a gun ir doesn't have a gun (or no result) and I don't see how these could be "maybe, but maybe not"
Role Cop? Well, a Vanilla result on someone = not groupscum, while if you do get a different role then you know
for sure


So, what is it you're trying to say/do?

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Post Post #3893 (isolation #202) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:01 pm

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In post 3751, Menalque wrote:If people don’t think that any of (Maria, Blake, A50) are scum then I suggest we lynch through PP->datisi->S_S to end the game

Any objections or anyone who doubts I’m a PR?
I just said I don't get your post, so -since you already outed- let it be a full claim with exact role and results.

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Post Post #3894 (isolation #203) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:08 pm

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In post 3754, PenguinPower wrote:If I go first, fine.
Since we've come to the stage of the game where everybody outs EVERYTHING, I just wanted to say I thought YOU were a PR. I specifically thought you were either a Doctor who protected me N1 (would explain the missing Mafia kill) or a Hider who had hid behind me (and obviously didn't die).

Your quoted phrase suggests you're a VT though. Doesn't change the read I have on you, but it makes me slightly more inclined to buy that Menalque is a PR (but still don't get how he got his deductions about his results). I've had him as a potential Gunsmith/Role Cop/Tracker/Jaikeeper since D1.

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Post Post #3895 (isolation #204) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 3772, Menalque wrote:I bet you didn’t get my crumb thought datisi
Would be nice if you outed it by the time I am all caught up

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Post Post #3897 (isolation #205) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 6:43 pm

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In post 3848, MariaR wrote:pedit: But Peng I'm MafiaR I can fake anything in any game so clearly if I am not cleared I can still be scum!!!
Amen to that :lol:

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Post Post #3899 (isolation #206) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:06 pm

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One more page to go, and it's come down to:

Spoiler:
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Or

Spoiler:
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Post Post #3900 (isolation #207) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 3880, Bingle wrote:
In post 3733, Menalque wrote:Hmmm.
Spoiler:
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Or better yet

Spoiler:

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Post Post #3902 (isolation #208) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 7:22 pm

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In post 3896, Bingle wrote:He's either crumbing a tracker or JK. If tracker, then MafJOAT me would have had to ninja kill the claimed PR with evidence of a protective, not rb'd a claimed PR with evidence of a protective, or holster and not Strongman with evidence of a protective and a claimed vig who scumread me. Datisi is less conclusive because ninja kill N1 makes perfect sense with no setup knowledge.
Why not think of "FB made the kill" alternative? I mean, why would the JOAT even bother the risk of being caught OR exhausting their 1-shot ability when it was obvious they'll be shooting skitter anyway? Wordt case scenario is the kill would be blocked and then they'd know it was a DOCTOR who stopped their kill on N1 and not -say- a JK. (There are other possibilities such as Hider, so the kill going through tells then their target on N1 was either a Hider or protected by a Doctor, but not a JK)

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Post Post #3907 (isolation #209) » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:15 pm

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In post 3903, Bingle wrote:If we assume FB makes the kill assuming skitter wouldn't be protected that doesn't explain why JOAT me doesn't roleblock skitts when I'm firmly in her PoE.
I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already. I am not arguing YOU are the JOAT though. I am just saying skitter's shot going through = JOAT already used their RB like 80% of the time, because she was always going to shoot in FB/S_S anyway (which is -at least- a 50% chance she was hitting Scum, and after having lost lillith the JOAT could not afford losing their second goon on the same cycle)

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Post Post #4009 (isolation #210) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:15 pm

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In post 3977, Menalque wrote:@bingle and @S_S I’d like to hear from both of you on whether you think it would be optimal for scum to make a kill using ninja on N1 or to save that for later
I know you didn't ask >me< but I will provide my answer anyway: >I< would probably have not used ANY of the JOAT abilities on N1. Instead I would have sent a Goon to do the kill and stayed put myself. That eliminates the risk of me getting caught by Tracker/JK. My abilities would have been saved until they were needed to wreak havoc or at least until I am forced to do the kills myself (like, when I have already lost my 2 Goons)

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Post Post #4010 (isolation #211) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 3990, Blake Belladonna wrote:I would like everybody to explicitly claim PR or not PR please.
Not PR

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Post Post #4011 (isolation #212) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:37 pm

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Redoing the VCA I think Datisi makes the most sense as the JOAT. As of now it's Datisi > S_S >> Bingle for me. PP is TOTALLY off the table for me here. I mean, TOTALLY.

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Post Post #4014 (isolation #213) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:54 pm

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In post 4012, Datisi wrote:
In post 3908, Datisi wrote:
In post 3907, Almost50 wrote:I already explained the JOAT must've used the RB shot on N1 already.
is this just because skitt's shot went through last night?
@a50
Yes. But it's like, if it's you (i.e. not S_S) then you might've hoped she would be shooting S_S instead? My brain is going wound in circles at this point.

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Post Post #4015 (isolation #214) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:57 pm

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In post 4013, Blake Belladonna wrote:Any chance someone can color the VCs for me?
Dunno which ones you want, so I'll colour the ones I'm using (the ones that I have copied to my word file which I though were most significant). Hold on for a few minute

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Post Post #4023 (isolation #215) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:08 pm

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For yours (and everybody else's) convenience I didn't colour myself green.

Here goes:

Spoiler:
Bingle [4]:
Menalque
, PenguinPower,
gobbledygook
,
Firebringer
,
Menalque
[3]:
skitter30
, Datisi, Bingle,
PenguinPower [3]:
Blake Belladonna
,
lilith2013
, MariaR,

Not Voting [3]: Something_Smart,
Pink Ball
,
Chemist1422
,
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gobbledygook
[5]: Bingle, Datisi, PenguinPower,
Menalque
, MariaR, [L-2]
Bingle [2]:
Firebringer
,
gobbledygook
,
PenguinPower [2]:
Blake Belladonna
,
lilith2013
,
MariaR [1]:
skitter30
,

Not Voting [3]: Something_Smart,
Pink Ball
,
Chemist1422
,
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gobbledygook
[4]: Bingle, Datisi,
Menalque
,
Pink Ball
,
MariaR [2]:
gobbledygook
,
skitter30
,
skitter30
[2]:
Blake Belladonna
, MariaR,
Something_Smart [1]:
Firebringer
,
PenguinPower [1]:
lilith2013
,
Menalque
[1]: PenguinPower,

Not Voting [2]: Something_Smart,
Chemist1422
,
-------------------------------------
gobbledygook
[7]: Datisi,
Pink Ball
, Something_Smart, MariaR,
lilith2013
,
Firebringer
, Almost50, — HAMMER
Something_Smart [2]:
gobbledygook
, Bingle,
PenguinPower [2]:
Blake Belladonna
,
Menalque
,
MariaR [1]:
skitter30
,

Not Voting [1]: PenguinPower,
-------------------------------------
lilith2013
[4]:
Menalque
, Almost50, PenguinPower,
Blake Belladonna
, -- [L-2]
Something_Smart [2]:
skitter30
,
Firebringer
,

Not Voting [5]: Bingle, MariaR, Something_Smart,
lilith2013
, Datisi,
-------------------------------------
lilith2013
[4]:
Menalque
, Almost50, PenguinPower,
Blake Belladonna
, -- [L-2]
Something_Smart [3]:
skitter30
,
Firebringer
, Bingle,

Not Voting [4]: MariaR, Something_Smart,
lilith2013
, Datisi,
-------------------------------------
MariaR [3]:
skitter30
, Almost50, Datisi,
lilith2013
[2]: MariaR, PenguinPower,
Something_Smart [2]:
Firebringer
, Bingle,
Firebringer
[1]:
Blake Belladonna
,

Not Voting [3]: Something_Smart,
lilith2013
,
Menalque
,
-------------------------------------
MariaR [4]:
skitter30
, Almost50, Datisi,
Menalque
, -- [L-2]
lilith2013
[2]: MariaR, PenguinPower,
Something_Smart [2]:
Firebringer
, Bingle,
Firebringer
[1]:
Blake Belladonna
,
Blake Belladonna
[1]:
lilith2013
,

Not Voting [1]: Something_Smart,
-------------------------------------
lilith2013
[5]: PenguinPower,
Blake Belladonna
, MariaR, Almost50,
skitter30
, — [L-1]
MariaR [2]: Datisi,
Menalque
,
Something_Smart [1]:
Firebringer
,
Blake Belladonna
[1]:
lilith2013
,

Not Voting [2]: Something_Smart, Bingle,
-------------------------------------
lilith2013
[6]: PenguinPower, MariaR, Almost50, Bingle,
Firebringer
,
Menalque
, — HAMMER
MariaR [1]: Datisi,
Blake Belladonna
[1]:
lilith2013
,
Firebringer
[1]:
Blake Belladonna
,

Not Voting [2]: Something_Smart,
skitter30
,
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Post Post #4025 (isolation #216) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:13 pm

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In post 4016, Datisi wrote:i just wanna point out you cannot argue that (1) JOAT used their roleblock on night 1 and (2) datisi is the JOAT who didn't move on night 1 simultaneously.
In post 4014, Almost50 wrote:if it's you (i.e. not S_S) then you might've hoped she would be shooting S_S instead
Like.. if S_S i JOAT then I can't see him not blocking skitter's shot unless he had already used up the RB shot. Period.

New line: If it's Datisi then he didn't block skitter hoping that she will shoot S_S and not FB.

Two separate thoughts of two separate suspects

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Post Post #4029 (isolation #217) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 2:16 pm

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In post 4024, Bingle wrote:
In post 4022, PenguinPower wrote:
hopes f3 isn’t Bingle/A50/PP
It's okay, if that's the F3 I'll convince A50 to mislynch you this time so that everything is equal. :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post Post #4083 (isolation #218) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 4067, MariaR wrote:I'll sit here and wait for any magical reasons on why I can be scum to pop up because I know they don't exist at this point and it's disappointing.
Everytime I try to SMUGLY force myself on you with a CHEAP FLIRT LINE you just shrug it off and ignore me. Isn't that reason enough for me to SR you?? :P

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Post Post #4084 (isolation #219) » Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:39 pm

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VOTE: Datisi

Btw, I still like playing with you. You probably didn't do anything wring here, but this players list is so strong it was harsh for you roll scum against.

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Post Post #4161 (isolation #220) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:09 pm

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VOTE: Bingle

Just to make a statement. I acknowledge the loss already and congratulate you on yet another scum!win over me.

@Menalque: JFTR, PP doesn't block you and shoot BB here, and especially not when you have announced being on him. Instead, PP would hust stay put and holster, thus implicating Maria. The RB on you was done precisely to prevent a hrd clear on PP when somebody does die.

Now I dunno why Bingle didn't think of THAT. He probably wanted the game to end faster?? I dunno. All I know is (1) if you do the VCA assuming Bingle is red it makes MUCH more sense than with the assumption PP is red, (2) Bingle is back to his favourite hobby: shake "monkeyman" just before LyLo. Did you notice how he has been TRing me ALL game, only to come TODAY to the conclusion my voting pattern looks bad?? And (3) Bingle already said if it was me, PP & him in LyLo that he will convince me to vote PP to make it equal. I -and PP- know exactly what he is referring to, but -also- it was a "soft scum claim" to refer to in post-game when he goes "nya nya nya, I pulled yet another one on you two, and especially on A50".

I was going to stay silent and let you guys mislynch whoever you wanted today and then vote Bingle in LyLo, but with your declaration you are OK handing Bingle the win I am afraid he may lynch PP and kill S_S using the Ninja shot and have you side by him in LyLo.

I suggest I should be the lynch today if all 3 of you vow to lynch Bingle in LyLo after I have been confirmed. That is my one and only request.

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Post Post #4164 (isolation #221) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:17 pm

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In post 4151, Bingle wrote:There is no world in which JOAT me both didn't roleblock the claimed vig who suspected me AND didn't strongman the claimed vig when there was already a missed kill.
There is no world where I would take your argument here seriously. You
knew
skitter wasn't going to shoot YOU. Even if you expected her to shoot FB he was a burden AND he was not afraid of hopping on your wagon at anytime, so you knew his vote (your own partner's vote) couldn't be relied on. You sent FB to shoot skitter as he was going to be your bus target next if he wasn't shot at that night anyway. You knew Menalque was Tracker and deliberately played obtuse assuming he might be JK, but that was ALSO a mistake, because you TMI'd (and I know nobody else would see it my way) in expressing knowledge we had a JK AND a TRACKER. How do you know we had a JK? THAT is wjere the N1 Scum N1 went. It was blocked. I don't even remember if BB crumbed her targets, so I may go reread her ISO, but you KNEW we had a JK in-play is my point.

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Post Post #4166 (isolation #222) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:26 pm

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@PP: Bingle is setting us BOTH as suspects to pit us against each other in LyLo. Of course, Bingle is not stupid AND is accounting for the possibility one of us is today's lynch and he'd have to deal with S_S in LyLo instead. I am leaving Maria out of this because she is confirmed and Bingle now has an even bigger problem because he needs to kill her AND Menalque, but then Menalque is falling for Bingle's plit and may be an asset for him in LyLo.

Note: You can change LyLo to MyLo I guess, which -I think- works even better for Bingle because he can find out who is showing more tendency to go with him. I guess the plan is to try and mislynch someone in MyLo, or to end the day with a No Lynch after having gauged consensus and decided whom to throw out of the arena for his plan to work.

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Post Post #4168 (isolation #223) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:32 pm

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In post 4165, Bingle wrote:
In post 4161, Almost50 wrote:@Menalque: JFTR, PP doesn't block you and shoot BB here, and especially not when you have announced being on him. Instead, PP would hust stay put and holster, thus implicating Maria. The RB on you was done precisely to prevent a hrd clear on PP when somebody does die.
This is objectively wrong, A50.

Holstering gets maria lynched, sure, but it also gives us an additional mislynch. And there's still a clear on whatever night Blake and Mena both act.
That would be true from YOUR PoV, but PP isn't you and does not think the way YOU do. ;)

Anyway, you win. I have not enough confidence in others to see it my way, but I KNOW Town!You NEVER syays something like
In post 4152, Bingle wrote:Actually, that VCA kinda looks bad for monkeyman.
After having said
In post 4037, Bingle wrote:I don't see a world in which I ever vote SS or A50 this game.
Your KNOW PP is going to flip green, and you are keeping your options open by retracting your own statement there, because if you would never vote me/S_S and both Menalque and Maria are confirmed that only leaves YOU as JOAT. Right?

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Post Post #4169 (isolation #224) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 4167, Bingle wrote:The argument here is that on N2, I had a hard tracker read on Mena, had a soul read that a kill would go through on skitter despite a missing kill the night before, and knew skitter wouldn't vig me after:
Well, we all knew skitter wasn't going to shoot you. If you asked me beforehand whom she was going to shoot I would have told you with much confidence it was in S_S/FB with a very low chance of a holster. skitter NEVER shoots you unless she is SURE you are scum because she knows you are also an asset as town.

The missing kill on N1 told you there was a JK/Doctor in play, and if you had deduced somehow that it's a JK then it follows skitter would have NEVER been the target, because that would BLOCK her shot too. What JK blocks a claimed Vig??

In case of a Doctor it would have been a bit more WIFOMy, since the Doctor would know skitter's the obvious protection, so may go for the same one they pretected on N1.

I dunno if you "hard" read Menalque as Tracker, but you suspected him to be at the very least. I know I had him figured for "one of 4 possible PRs", but I just didn't know which one myself.

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Post Post #4170 (isolation #225) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:48 pm

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Btw, 6147 bottom quote is misleading because skitter would NOT shoot you in that case EVEN IF she was sure you were scum, because she was AFRAID OF THE BUSDRIVER. Like, if you had any chance of being Town she wouldn't shoot you, and if she knew you were scum she still wouldn't shoot you because she would know that if a BD existed they'd switch you with someone you wanted dead.

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Post Post #4171 (isolation #226) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:50 pm

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Like, why do you think she shot FB over you/Maria, assuming you were all equally likely scum to her? it's because FB was the least likely to be Busdriven (in fact, no chance of that happening because the BD is one-shot anyway, and it wouldn't be wasted saving someone who was likely to be lynched the very next day if they survived the night)

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Post Post #4185 (isolation #227) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:24 pm

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In post 4182, Menalque wrote:I think I might want to lynch the monkey today
I'll take it gladly IF you
promise
to lynch Bingle tomorrow.

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Post Post #4187 (isolation #228) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:15 pm

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In post 4186, Bingle wrote:I'm not an omnipotent genius
Yet another lie, my friend. Yet .. another lie. :lol:

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Post Post #4188 (isolation #229) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:18 pm

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@Mod: just to cover all bases: Does Multitasking mean "can kill and perform another single action", or doe sit mean "they can perform more than one action. Period."? In other words: Could the JOAT in this game have used 2-3 of their 1-shot abilities in the same night?

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Post Post #4190 (isolation #230) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:46 pm

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Good!

So Maria is confirmed via night action (could not have used the strongman to bypass Blake's JK AND RB Menalque on the same time)
Menalque is confirmed via setup and the lack of a CC.

Lynch pool is A50/PP/Bingle/S_S

Now everybody needs to make a
detailed case
for why they think X is
town
. I made mine on PP already.

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Post Post #4192 (isolation #231) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 7:56 am

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Then commit to lynching Bingle and me in whatever order you would like. If we lose this to Bingle it is all your fault and no one else's

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Post Post #4216 (isolation #232) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:51 am

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Wait! I'm receiving transmission.

Spoiler:
Image
skitter
says to lynch
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Post Post #4233 (isolation #233) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 10:58 am

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I don't know why we're assuming Blake JK'd Bingle on N1. That post Menalque quoted says Bingle did have the chance to kill Blake. Otherwise, it wouldn't even make sense that Blake says Bingle didn't kill her (if she did deny him the chance to do it).

In fact, I think Blake was implying she JK'd someone NOT-Bingle and thus her being alive worked in Bingle's favour from her PoV.

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Post Post #4238 (isolation #234) » Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:29 pm

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Mental gymnastics is good when physical bodybuilding gyms are closed, y'know. SOMETHING meeds to take care of all those extra calories.

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Post Post #4247 (isolation #235) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 4239, MariaR wrote:I kinda just wanna lynch S_S/A50 and call it a day but I'll only do it if me and Mena can come to an agreement.
You would have to chose only one of the two, because I am not letting Bingle get away with this if he is Scum. It's S_S or Bingle for me, so these are the only 2 acceptable lynches for the rest of the game.

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Post Post #4254 (isolation #236) » Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 4253, Bingle wrote:I don't know why you think you not being an acceptable lynch from your POV has any bearing on whether you're an acceptable lynch from the town POV.
If you read the context you'd have realized I was talking about what's acceptable for ME, and my lynch is certainly NOT acceptable for me.

However, I started by telling Mari she'd have to choose between me and S_S, which implies I am not completely against my own lynch, provided it leads to YOUR lynch and not S_S'

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Post Post #4271 (isolation #237) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 4262, Menalque wrote:A50, what put you on a PR read on me?
At first it was your entry. Things like & felt like you were deliberately being scummy to avoid being NK'd. You didn't play as scummy when you were actually scum in C9++.

strengthened the read. You were playing scummy and "pretending" you didn't care if you died, but you also "didn't want to die"?? That is certainly NOT VT. You were either Scum (which didn't explain the shift in your play style) or a PR trying to look overly vulnerable by day to survive the night.

You were also probing everyone, and your defense of skitter didn't ,ake sense coming from scum!you, because I hd her down as town too, so the only option was still that you were a TPR.

Then came which hinted you could confirm someone's alignment (In this case; Maria) somehow.

And so on. I mean, I wasn't
absolutely sure
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Post Post #4273 (isolation #238) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:07 am

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In post 4263, Menalque wrote:and is there anywhere in your ISO that you thinks shows that you had me as a PR? either through crumb, soft, or just the way you were interacting with me?
The following quote was meant to be specifically @you:
In post 2566, Almost50 wrote:And while at it (and this is not directed at skitter, but is a general statement) I "sometimes" may FOS someone I suspect are a TPR (as Town, that is) to give scum the false impression they might still mislynch that person, so as to make it less likely for then to shoot that person. So, if I suddenly decide to keep skitter in my PoE while nobody else is willing to go there you know what I'm doing.

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Post Post #4274 (isolation #239) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 4264, Menalque wrote:hey, also, @a50 has skitter ever misread you?
She's been doing that for a few games now. She leans to SR me more nowadays, actually.

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Post Post #4277 (isolation #240) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:37 am

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I mean, I don't keep hard records, bur she had a spell of reading me accurately 100% of the town, then she got overly confident and she started doing it the wrong way. Like, in C9++ (since that one comes to mind of late) she still suspected me some, when NSG had already caught my crumb (of being VT). It wasn't until I reminded her directly of how I crumb that she dropped it.

Suffice it to say, I'd take her TR on me for granted, but I will be reluctant to accept her SR on me in any given game.

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Post Post #4278 (isolation #241) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:37 am

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That is.. "I'd take her TR on me to
be correct
for granted"

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Post Post #4298 (isolation #242) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:58 pm

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@Bingle: AP suspects you're intentionally distracting him with you new avatar. He says he keeps staring at .. @$% [connection terminated]

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Post Post #4302 (isolation #243) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:16 pm

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I see what you're saying, Maria, and I am down. Maybe.. just maybe we end the game today and don't need to me to go H2H with Bingle tomorrow.

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Post Post #4320 (isolation #244) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:17 pm

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In post 4317, Bingle wrote:Firebringer killing skitter is bad play because there was a VERY HIGH POTENTIAL FOR SKITTER TO BE PROTECTED.
You keep repeating this like a broken record, so I'm going to ask you straight up: If YOU, Bingle, were a JK in this game; would you have been on skitter the night she got killed? In other words: Just switch your role with Blake's and keep everything else as it is.. roles, alignments, claims, lynches.. etc. Now tell me with a straight face that you would have JK'd the claimed Vig.

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Post Post #4321 (isolation #245) » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:23 pm

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VOTE: S_S

@Bingle: If that tantrum is an act and you turn to be the JOAT I.. I dunno what I'd do, but I'd probably hate you for the whole of next week or so.

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Post Post #4353 (isolation #246) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:25 pm

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In post 4341, PenguinPower wrote:But then A50 was like "it has to be between me and JingleBingle" and now he's voting SS so idk
?? When did I say it could be you???? I've always wanted to lynch between Bingle & S_S

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Post Post #4358 (isolation #247) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:32 pm

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In post 4344, Menalque wrote:I could see the monkey being scum
Time to pay your ophthalmologist a visit I say. I would also recommend a psychiatrist visit if the ophthalmologist says your vision is OK. You're either having sight problems or are hallucinating.

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Post Post #4380 (isolation #248) » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:20 pm

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Well, we can lynch me and you should be the NK 100% of the time and we can both ask her in the dead thread.

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Post Post #4412 (isolation #249) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:01 pm

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In post 4388, Menalque wrote:If it's not S_S probably lynch A50 tomorrow and if it's bingle or PP let it be noted for the record that (1) no-one was really interested in engaging with me on whether Blake was crumbing a JK on bingle and the implications of that and (2) I said I thought PP's reactions to being scumread were weird multiple times and that I thought he was reminiscent of his scum play in the game I modded only to have multiple town players argue with me about this and tell me they were town reactions
Engaged you on the Blake JK on Bingle, and I said I didn't think it was the case, and you dismissed me. I don't think anyone would say "I think X is clear because I'm alive today" when they had in fact blocked X AND there was a missing kill on that night.

That being said I don't think Bingle goes as far as faking such anger over being SR'd, even if he felt he was caught for the wrong reasons, so I'm going to guess he is town here because of that specific reaction.

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Post Post #4424 (isolation #250) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:32 pm

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In post 4415, Menalque wrote:Also, who tf was she on on N2?

Can’t be fb (he was shot)
Can’t be datisi (would be cleared or at least softcleared?)
Can’t be bingle (he didn’t strongman)
Can’t be skitter (she shot)
Can’t be me (I got a result)
In post 4416, Menalque wrote:Can’t be Blake herself obviously
Can’t be maria or she wouldn’t have gone on her again?

Does that mean Blake was on one of (PP, SS, A50) on N2 by process of elimination?
In post 4417, Menalque wrote:
In post 3661, Blake Belladonna wrote:I think that the final remaining scum is within Bingle and Something_Smart in almost all scenarios.
If you can't dicern Blake was on me on N2 from all this, I dunno what else you need to get it. You have clipped down the pool to exactly 3 players, and Blake says one of the other 2 is the last scum, so who do you think she JK'd??

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Post Post #4425 (isolation #251) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:35 pm

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As for N1, I don't have that much telepathy and my crystal ball stopped working of late. She obviously wasn't on you or skitter though.

You know what? let me tinfoil this: Blake was on me on N1 and N2. She blocked my shot on N1 and then I used strongman N2. Perfect case for you to lynch me. GO.

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Post Post #4426 (isolation #252) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:52 pm

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Obviously Scum!me is so bad I hammered gobble (thus drawn attention to myself), bus'ed lillith (for no apparent reason), and told skitter NOT to announce her kill target beforehand. On top of it all, I had skitter shot when I was her top TR rather than have her shoot at least one more "suspect" and getting rid of the guy I had a TR on (Menalque), the guy I thought was a PT but was wrong on (PP), or the girl that had claimed PR but didn't specify (Blake). Yes, I totally killed skitter because that is the right thing to do. have her kill my scum buddy (Fb) and then take her out on the same night with how her reads were. Like, Bingle himself asserts he was in skitter's to-shoot list, and we would have probably still lynched Datisi on D3, so I must suck in this game not to let her rid me of Bingle on N3.

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Post Post #4427 (isolation #253) » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:53 pm

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I mean, I must be BRILLIANT in this game not to have her shoot Bingle for me on N3.

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Post Post #4446 (isolation #254) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:12 am

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In post 4429, Something_Smart wrote:Notice anything?
Yes. I noticed that you popped up to shade my argument in one post and declared VLA on the next. You are not even playing AT ALL, and haven't been since D1.

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Post Post #4447 (isolation #255) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:14 am

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In post 4433, Something_Smart wrote:It's a great case. It especially accounts for the part where I didn't roleblock skitter to make sure that she would shoot one of her scumreads, both of which were scum.
IIRC, lillith was already lynched. Who are you referring to as the second one with Fb? Yourself or Bingle?

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Post Post #4448 (isolation #256) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:16 am

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In post 4436, Something_Smart wrote:No it couldn't? Wasn't skitter's shot pool Firebringer and me?
THANK YOU. So "both of them were scum" was referring to YOURSELF + Fb. I rest my case.

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Post Post #4449 (isolation #257) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:19 am

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In post 4438, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4436, Something_Smart wrote:No it couldn't? Wasn't skitter's shot pool Firebringer and me?
uhhhhhhh

In post 3568, skitter30 wrote:{a50}
{mena}
{ss}
{dats, blake}
{pp}
{lilith} - idk/null
{mariar, fire, bingle}

i'd want someone in the last tier vigged, and there's absolutely scum in my townreads, i think
This is supplementary evidence, but I think the stronger one is S_S subconsciously calling himself scum. Like, in his mind he was thinking skitter's pool was in him/Fb. It doesn't mater to me whether he genuinely believed that or was WIFOM'ing it, but the fact is he admitted they were BOTH SCUM.

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Post Post #4450 (isolation #258) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:21 am

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In post 4445, Menalque wrote:VOTE: A50
Stop trying to throw the game and do the right thing. :evil:

And you wonder why I leave you out when I mention NK priorities???

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Post Post #4453 (isolation #259) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:48 am

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I'm fucking tempted to go berserk and self-hammer. That wouldn't be fair to Town though (provided their name is not Menalque), so I'm going to wait for Maria's hammer to go call Menalque names in the dead thread.

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Post Post #4454 (isolation #260) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:49 am

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And yes, I did hammer myself before as town.

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Post Post #4486 (isolation #261) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:49 pm

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@Maria: Sorry to ask in public, but I don't think it proper to PM you/PP while this game is still ongoing. What is the "word" to be avoided? Is the word "Lynch" now illegal to use or what? Cuz this is not the first time I see a reference to some word to be avoided, but it's indeed the first time I see it referenced and I'm confused.

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Post Post #4487 (isolation #262) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:51 pm

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And if it is, then I'm reporting this video for youtube to ban it too, I guess.


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Post Post #4489 (isolation #263) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:12 pm

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Geez! And I've just ordered me 10 more crates of the stuff due to be delivered in the weekend. I already paid for it and the seller does not have a refund policy. What am I to do with all these "L's" sitting in my backyard if I can't use them. :facepalm:

You're right though.. it's going to take a whole lot of effort and focusing while I type to avoid the use of that word, and -even if I manage to do- I suspect many players won't even get what I'm saying. "Let's "eliminate" X." "How do you mean? Vigging them is eliminating them". Or "Let's capture X" "You mean Jail them? How do you know there is a JK?"

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Post Post #4490 (isolation #264) » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:16 pm

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So, anyway.. I hope you had your fun "knocking me out". Hey, WAIT. So what of the "dead thread" now? Will it be renamed to "the sanctuary">, "the correction facility"? or -and this is HILARIOUS- "the rest room"?

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Post Post #4563 (isolation #265) » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:09 pm

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Well played, S_S. GGA. Special thanks to ofrhz for the smooth modding (as always).

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Post Post #4577 (isolation #266) » Wed Jul 08, 2020 3:48 pm

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Oh, OK then.. here's my answer to your question:
In post 4545, Bingle wrote:
In post 4321, Almost50 wrote:@Bingle: If that tantrum is an act and you turn to be the JOAT I.. I dunno what I'd do, but I'd probably hate you for the whole of next week or so.
Quick question, what if that tantrum was an act and I'm not the JOAT?
Well it's been well over a week anyway, so I guess I owe you an apology for the 3 days I hated you more than I should. The other 4 were well deserved though. :P

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