Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

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woops wrong notty i was confused

VOTE: notmafia (swrious vote)

Glad to see you’re town

I’m on the wagon with you in spirit

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Dave is probably scum too

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He’s not your scumbid though, is he not maf

He’s the other team

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Add mala to the list

3/4 done 1 more to go

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Uhhh....

Wooper is?

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1/3 chance of scum

I’m town so one of you must be by numbers and math

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That would mean it’s the Canadian

But he seems town so far

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Why should I

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Yeah I can see it’s a touch awkward on the reread.

I’ll consider it.

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VOTE: dave

Mala, bulge, lets get some free towncred and clown this scum

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Why are we wagoning hayasaka again

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are you reading the game?

Yeah and we have people voting because she sounds like newbscum and it’s an obvious alt

So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons? Because I’m gonna keep doing it

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His posting early just felt awkward to me. I’m tired rn and can’t articulate it well but I like my vote so far. I did like 103s second half though.

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UNVOTE:

@Agar I didn't like his entrance to the thread and what I liked about the vote is he felt awkward at the start and while skimming on my phone at work I felt like he was arguing semantically but on reread I no longer feel that (now that I'm sitting down to actually digest the thread).

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Does this guy ever get srs or is he going to meme the whole game

I think I like Agar, Bulge, Dave

Atm. Mala gets some space but

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I rescind my question about memeing

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I agree with the dunn townread too

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I was grocery shopping. Am I not allowed to run errands?

I want to see the games where you are getting your data from for your 80%.

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73

The first vote count with the l-2 wagon. Brass has great vote counts that show you the last vote add by a specific player. So you can follow the links to each of the constituents of the hayasaka wagons.

We have-
Meta
Bringing something up and not articulating
Newb scum
Definitely doesn’t like axolotls
“Game is hard”

Which is such a broad rainbow of reasons it doesn’t really seem credible. Hence my confusion.

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Because I only start calling wagons ass when they’re on obvtown

And I talks how I talks

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@A50 I’m still waiting for the data to back up your statistics.

@Dave-

I like dunn so far. I like Agar so far. Everyone else hasn’t inspired a ton of confidence.

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@A50 I’m still waiting for the data to back up your statistics.

I can't provide any links. Try searching for "why is X being wagoned" or "why is there a wagon on X" and tell me what you find (hint: Search will only recognize the words "wagom/wagoned" as valis search items and will return each and every occurrence of the word in a thread which does not help. It's not like I'm searching for the word "notsience")

But what is your point? I failed to provide evidence so the jury should acquit you? Fine. I am the DA in that case though and I still say you are scum for it. If the day should end before new evidence is presented you will be free to go.

It’s the job of the accuser to do the research. My point is baseless claims are good ways for scum to hide behind unless called out upon. This “you go find it you’re still scum” doesn’t show town trying to divine my alignment.

VOTE: almost50

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UNVOTE:

Just realized scum actually have to scum hunt this game.

So that basis is off.

Wagon on me is ass but I digress

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Don’t care, I was pushing someone on the context they weren’t trying to divine my sign meant, took the browns to the super bowl and changed my mind on reflection.

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Agar feels very similar to his intro in mini 2146 we played together a month ago.

I feel like this is the same dunn town intro I’ve seen in minis 2153 and 2148.

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See? I agree with that entire post

He’s town

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Pretty much.

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It’s a50 who voted based on false premises, not mafia who never explains his votes and elements who doesn’t like my posting with no elaboration.

So, who knows

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Any other thoughts mala?

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Go to sleep but I want to see more from you later!

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surely mala scum would have placed a proper vote by now, no?

All she’s done is engage me so far.

I’m putting her at null but in reality it’s more scum but I’m giving her time to prove me wrong

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^other scum team from mala

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Meh.

I haven’t liked his posting but it could also be vanity over the stupid wagon on me and not liking his votes all game.

I’m fine with the mala wagon though. I’ll probably hammer it unless she comes in town as fuck

She also gives me shit for tunneling her every game so this is my way of not doing it

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Hi mala

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Ugh fine

VOTE: mala

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I’d say one. Maybe two on different teams but one seems likely.

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LHF?

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Hey I’m the one who called mala scum first

I just didn’t want to clown her yet because I literally joined to play with her lol

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There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

Well know more tomorrow

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Mala you’re catching up today right

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This game is a mess. Why is there a wagon on mala?

All she’s done so far is engage or talk about me and the small wagon on me.

She’s supposed to catch up today.

That’s literally the main reason. I commented then the wagon jumped up.

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Dunn is town that is a correct assessment IV.

What about you?

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You read yet?

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Yeah. I already pushed someone because it didn’t feel like he was trying to figure me out then realized I’m an idiot and scum have to hunt too

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I dunno really.

I’ve changed my mind on multiple pushes so far

We’re on mala bc all she’s done is engage me and talk about the wagon on me

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strange stance given the only solid wagon we've had is on the only player who hasn't voted

What?

It’s a pretty accurate stance.

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I’m fine with a lurker d1 if there’s no better options.

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I’m not being defeatist we literally were on the subject of them and I weighed in on them lol

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Mala when you’re caught up Lemme know where your heads at

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You know I’m going to ask you to elaborate on what’s weird about my posting.

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... this is the part where you explain

I also disagree with your townread on mala. I also think it’s interesting she’s your strongest townread but your strongest scumreads are her main pushers- is one of these two coloring the other?

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Do you think town-mala would let scum-me get away with pushing her?

Town-mala doesn’t even let town-me get away with pushing her.

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Mostly that I’m town :p

We were both town in a game and she called me out on early scumreading her and said I always tunnel so it’s why I took a step back from her and have been more passive in my push. The entire basis of my read is that her play has been focused primarily on me (which I admit did swing entirely the opposite way after being called out). I’m still waiting for her to finish catching up

I’m gonna flip through your catchup more when I get home.

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Damn straight I’m not

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I could wagon dram.

I think she over corrected really hard on being called out on focusing me and I’m not super thrilled with her posting from today. I agree with not liking 345 but she’s also cheeky enough to say that shit as town too so meh

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Read our PT too.

But probably.

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Also I think agar is town.

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Walk me through your thoughts on elements IV?

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@A50 it’s pretty clearly a joke, lol.

I was already townreading haya and IV made me pretty confident that slot is town.

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Mala/notmaf/dram/????

Is that too easy?

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Why? I don’t think she’s don’t anything to be a lock townread yet.

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It could. But early on d1 with nothing to go on I felt comfortable calling him town. Admittedly I haven’t seen scum-dunn since I’ve been back.

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Spoiler: I'm kind of caught up ish

First.

first is always town

Did I step in a time ripple and go to 2016 with this playerlist?

literally explains why i know so many of you and why I wanted to replace in so bad

VOTE: elements

scummy vote

Worry worry not cause I'm with you

Tbh this is going to sound dumb.
But I have pretty deep meta on how MariaR enters games and I think she is town here.

It's not worth overly explaining tbh.

this is townie

I’m town as well!

But I’m sure we got a scumbutt in our click again.

this is townie too, scum doesn't openwolf admit that often especially multiball when scum doesn't know everyone else is town

VOTE: hayasaka
Newb scum response to being voted

tldr: It was interesting because I have 0 idea how to analyze it.

yeah this slot is town

Cakez Buldge Hayasaka town.

'But why'

Not answering.

seems townie

I am looking back right now and that post was an incredible stretch.
I do think your vote was the worst, but half that post was me thinking this game has gone on for 48 hours and not 24 which does change how I read it.

townie backoff

yeah i don't see how anyone scumreads Hayasaka here reading the rest of this page

Ya okay I'll bite

vote: davesaz

townie vote

Will catch up later promise

Liking agar rn

town

I agree with the dunn townread too

i don't at this point

A50 is town though probably

None of your posts look like shit posts to me

Multiball is tricky because I have to ignore his read but also think about the circumstances surrounding it since the key difference is scum really want to survive. His read on me is easily real which is a bit awkward. Social tells won't work on a game with players who have 4+ years of experience.

I fully agree that first post I made in regards to agar was shit, I admitted to that pretty early on, before agar stated issues with my other posts. But it's multi-ball so his push on me being potentially being real isn't that surprising to me.

Although I will admit his posts regarding me "reaching" could be a valid take I look at some other arguments he is making and it kind of gives me a bit of a pause on how legitimate his push on me is. The 2 quotes below feel more scummy then wrong like he is trying to win a debate not solve the game..

good posting, i can get behind agar scum

So you DO know why each and every vote was placed on her. You just don't like the wagon/reasons. Why didn't you say something like "I don't like the wagon on Hayasaka" pr "This wagon is suspicious"... etc.?

good

It's explicitly bad for town to shit post,

Okay boomer

It’s the job of the accuser to do the research. My point is baseless claims are good ways for scum to hide behind unless called out upon. This “you go find it you’re still scum” doesn’t show town trying to divine my alignment.

VOTE: almost50

weird vote

See? I agree with that entire post

He’s town

weird

Agar feels very similar to his intro in mini 2146 we played together a month ago.

I feel like this is the same dunn town intro I’ve seen in minis 2153 and 2148.

Shockingly I have to agree with I’m liking Dunn!fortown

town

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malakittens

Let's fucking do this.

Woo!
I like this energy!
VOTE: malakittens

townish

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malakittens

Let's fucking do this.

not townish

interesting

townish

Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?

many thIngs.
it's A multiball gaMe so it's highly likely there will be two kills night one. thAt is what i mean when i said "everyone". i was just using hyperbole to indicate the mulTiple pOssible kills at night
after people have been killed it Will no longer be day one either and I don't like day oNe because nothing has happened at the start and so there's not anything to go off. I also have a habit of being lynched day one which is another reason I don't like it.
i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.

townish

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

I agree with the pretty terrible part but doubt it's scum led.

i disagree with terrible but tr this

not science wagon is pretty terrible and probably scum led

If you say so

VOTE: SirCakez

i think this is okay

A50 town.

agree and think this slot might be town too

I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.

What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)

Wagoning people, and in particular big wagons, to see what happens.

VOTE: Malakittens
Guess I'd better take my own advice, time's ticking.

Oh yes because time is really ticking with 9 days left in day 1.

:eyeroll:

This is :badposting:

Town should have some semblance of urgency and waiting until deadline for wagons to form leads to bad wagons on town players.

baffled as to why nobody is voting with me, even if elements is town

What was your reason? I think I know, but want to hear it from you.

elements hasn't had a single worthy post but hasn't done anything scummy to the point of being usable in a case. ie he's been trolling. granted by his volition he is bad at d1 play so maybe that's nai, but my point stands. I'm surprised nobody else cares to put pressure on a slot that seems to me like all it needs is a bit of serious pressure to crack.

Because they wanna attack LHF.

And this is not anything that convinces me this wagon is misguided.

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Notscience is not impressing me.
Disagree strongly with the take that A50 is town but I also would just love to yeet the spam posting to 2016.

Lots of lurking fucks here. Would love more from {Dunn/Dram/N_M/Haya}, lack of content in this game is :sadfaec:

ehhh not a huge fan of this

Hayasaka has requested replacement,

I don't like this. Hayasaka never replaced out before. (Yet again, she never has rolled SCUM before)

Just keeping it as side-note for now

town

Hayasaka has requested replacement, I will be offering the slot to one party who expressed some interest before posting to the Replacement Request

ik ik im sad too but hopefully im ok enough for you dunn

unfortunately i don't see everyone's TR on you

Did you really quote your predecessor THRICE and tried to manufacture a read on them??

Everyone who TR's IV entrance needs to elaborate. Note that I'm talking about IV and not Haya though.

@bulge

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NS why am I town

Because your role pm reads it.

Something something level of engagement something

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Because I’m scum and know you aren’t my buddy and therefor must be town, duh.

Why don’t you like the mala wagon, miltank?

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Who do you think should be then? Me?

If so, why aren’t you pushing it?

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I don’t think not maf is aggressive enough and I don’t think malas done enough and feel the apathy from her role pm seeping in

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You wanna help me wagon notmaf then?

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I’ve played with mala since she’s been back and she was town and she feels different here.

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And I know she’s super busy is why I’m not crazy gung ho about it but I can’t deny the difference

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Agar do you feel like 467 is just rehashing my points on it I’ve already brought up to me?

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Yes, sorry. Phones are hard

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Both made by scum faking apathy?

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Agar I find myself townreading most of the people on the two lead wagons is that a concern do you think?

Only two on them I’m not is a5 and elements.

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What are you talking about?

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IV what do you think of the constituents of the wagons?

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It’s hard to make me really unsure when you said prob not the post before :p

I’m pretty town tho fwiw

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I mean Kinda?

I’m also more worried about mala than you atm and may or may not be partaking in the gamblers fallacy.

While fencesitty I think it’s prob expected because if I could take the authenticity it would be a game in which I actually had to scumhubt

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What do you think of the wagons bulge

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Ele/Mala/NM/Dramonic seem to be the only people I'd vote d1 here

Strong agree

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I think you’re wrong on that one buddy

What do you think of malas comments on this page

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lol we are really not vibing huh

i don't see any problem with them, null

I agree with them which makes me lean towards town but they’re also thoughts I’ve already shared so I don’t think I can townreads her for those

Why don’t you want to wagon notmaf? He’s being very not notmsf today

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Re:notmaf.

He had the same entrance when he replaced in to mini 2153 (that post with all the colors and stuff) and the very first thought that went through my head was “this could be scum circumventing something they already did as town.” But I didn’t say anything because I wanted to see what he did before I started conf biasing.

But there’s none of the aggression. He doesn’t feel notmafia enough but on further evaluation I don’t get why he would not feel notmafia enough because he actually would have to scumhunt

Mmmm

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Idk I think it’s scummy but it’s weird he’s not faking the aggression given he’d actually have a way to

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He was way more aggressive in 2148 like mala agreed with.

But yeah. I’m still not sure who I think the best clown for today is.

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I don't have strong opinions his game, why are there 4 votes on Malakittens?

She seems very different from her limited availability in 2148. You were there too- doesn’t she seem like way more of a nonentity this game?

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That’s a scum claim from her, IV.

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I’ve seen this response before I’m pretty sure. I’ll go looking for it when I get home tonight.

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Do feel free to elaborate on how you think I can be scum.

I’m curious.

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idk why you jumped to the conclusion that mala elim me now was a scumclaim

Kind of weird tbh

Clown me for it I’m not in the mood

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Do feel free to elaborate on how you think I can be scum.

I’m curious.

I just said I am not convinced you are.....?

But clearly there’s things making you think that way given how you phrased it.

What are they?

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I explicitly said I was giving you space and then I got yelled at for it. It’s hard to be aggressive when I’m agreeing with agar and not engaging the Shit post brigade.

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I’m down for that.

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VOTE: not

town

mafia

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God damnit it took out my /s tag

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I calmed down.

Spoiler: not game relevant

I’ve been exposed to Covid and was supposed to go to my sisters wedding next weekend and see my brother and mom for the first time in months. Idk If I even have it yet but yeah

Sorry I snapped at you I’m just crabby today.

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lol

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can one of you please explain how in the world this is AtE because I don't see it even a little bit

The fatalism. I think it’s an attempt to make people feel guilty about it and back off.

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You realize you’ve been pushing it for over half the game and gotten no bites right

Days ending soon we need to start consolidating

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Do you think he’s town? If so, why?

Who if anyone is scum on the wagon? Are they from opposing teams?
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I mean yeah.

Bulge do you think malas town? Convince me

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Mhm IV is also town yes

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Purely on activity level he seems way more present than any of the three.

But it seems like his scum game he had highest activity at a glance

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Either of you want to join the wagon on notmaf?

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Id just like the record to reflect that even though this is the 2016 special I’m not really being as spammy as I used to and I am proud of myself.

Mala I’ll give you some time tomorrow to get in the game but igmeou

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I am okay with an elements wagon tomorrow I think but I want to do more meta research. Maybe this weekend if I have down time.