lol
First of all, how dare you!
I don't deal in impossible hypotheticals.In post 70, Elements wrote:AGar, if you have a child and they join ms will you have to change your sig?
In post 102, Hayasaka wrote:At this point he has triple downed on literally nothing despite it not giving him a reaction.
- Speaking of, how closely are you reading this game? Other than your pensive dave interactions, it feels very much like you're focused on survival and analysis of your burgeoning wagon. How far out are you probing outside of those two pools?
I legitimately couldn't parse the post, there was a hitch in the first sentence that threw me. I just disagree at this point.In post 112, Hayasaka wrote:No I created an example, and explained the scum motivation. But if you want to interpret it that way then go for it.In post 111, AGar wrote: I actually can't follow the logic in 86 - Because someone didn't hedge in the way you did once as town, they're scummy? Is that what I'm reading?
I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?In post 112, Hayasaka wrote:That read was largely a shit post. I didn't know your post was serious so I ignored it.
I don't have an explanation for the read, I brought it up because I felt like it.
lolIn post 114, Hayasaka wrote:agar is caught
Gonna take some more than some quippy one-liners, even for me.
I mean you copped to posting noncommittal shit so it's not "doing X by mistake," it's "consciously doing something you say is scum indicative." My main pushback is that I don't believe it's indicative and I think you're grasping at shit reasons while being logically inconsistent.In post 157, Hayasaka wrote:Let's assume the statement is correct, I am doing what I am accusing dave of. If I think X makes someone scum I can do X by mistake it doesn't stop X from being scum indicative. It doesn't actually invalidate the statement I made.In post 116, AGar wrote: I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?
Or the real world where he is just misrepresenting what is going on. Neither is a good look.
I don't particularly think you were ignoring anyone directly. Your focus seemed acutely on survival.In post 113, Hayasaka wrote:I went back to skim the thread.
Who has posted and isn't on my wagon that isn't Dave or NotSci.
I am not sure who you think I am ignoring?
C'mon Notty, you can do better than this.In post 239, notscience wrote:^other scum team from mala
In post 252, notscience wrote:Meh.
I haven’t liked his posting but it could also be vanity over the stupid wagon on me and not liking his votes all game.
I’m fine with the mala wagon though. I’ll probably hammer it unless she comes in town as fuck
She also gives me shit for tunneling her every game so this is my way of not doing it
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Hi mala
This is :badposting:In post 294, Malakittens wrote:In post 288, davesaz wrote:Wagoning people, and in particular big wagons, to see what happens.In post 286, Almost50 wrote:What IS useful in a game like this? (Serious question)In post 267, davesaz wrote:I'd like a little more help in my crusade against people who refuse to talk about anything useful to the game.
VOTE: Malakittens
Guess I'd better take my own advice, time's ticking.
Oh yes because time is really ticking with 9 days left in day 1.
:eyeroll:
And this is not anything that convinces me this wagon is misguided.In post 295, Malakittens wrote:Because they wanna attack LHF.In post 259, The Bulge wrote:elements hasn't had a single worthy post but hasn't done anything scummy to the point of being usable in a case. ie he's been trolling. granted by his volition he is bad at d1 play so maybe that's nai, but my point stands. I'm surprised nobody else cares to put pressure on a slot that seems to me like all it needs is a bit of serious pressure to crack.In post 243, davesaz wrote:What was your reason? I think I know, but want to hear it from you.In post 230, The Bulge wrote:baffled as to why nobody is voting with me, even if elements is town
This is a wild take.In post 325, innocentvillager wrote:I feel like anyone who doesn’t look like they’re scumhunting is probably town
This is a hell of a dichotomy.In post 364, innocentvillager wrote:agar's partner is probably lurky or he's townIn post 362, AGar wrote:This is a wild take.
Ehhh meh? The Dave takes feel lukewarm as shit right now.In post 372, dramonic wrote:This game feels like a big clique experience.
On the plus side Dave is obvscum.
What I've read is not apathy, but a consistent effort to come in here and tell us how busy she is while still being cognizant of what's going on (294 is awareness of how far out deadline is and the tonal shift to more aggressive moves from other players. 425 shows awareness of IV's reads and the subsequent discussion about his peculiar Haya statement.) Someone can be busy and still choose to not fully engage when they do appear.In post 464, SirCakez wrote:Mala's apathy is always NAI because she's always swamped so you need to read her off of what is there
I think you missed a couple words or punctuation here? Trying to parse. Think you're asking if 467 reads as Cakez taking things you said and saying them back to you? If so, then yes.In post 469, notscience wrote:Agar do you feel like 467 is just rehashing my points on it I’ve already brought up to me?
In post 477, Malakittens wrote:Honestly being town in a multi ball game like this is a death sentence. It’s actually easier to draw scum and win, whereas, town majority of the time they don’t ever win a multiball game. That doesn’t help my motivation much either. I looked at the stats and town hasn’t won this setup yetIn post 465, notscience wrote:I’ve played with mala since she’s been back and she was town and she feels different here.
Let's play a game: What do these posts have in common?
This is the gist of it, yes.In post 497, notscience wrote:Both made by scum faking apathy?
Is there actually an opinion in here?In post 544, davesaz wrote:Fully from memory, in player list order. Gaps are for separating 1-liners from more extensive impressions, not for read grouping:
Almost50 - I think he's town based on a meta factor that I'm unwilling to let him know what it is
AGar - Seems to have opinions which are reasonable based on things in the thread
Malakittens - Claims to have RL balance issue, which is something I wouldn't doubt. Seems to be more in touch and less catching up than RL balance issues would imply. If she's unwilling / unable to push someone that she normally would via meta that could be a sign that she's scum with nothing to push. I don't know her meta well enough to know what she would push.
dramonic - Focus within the thread is a little narrow, but it fits what I know about his meta. Don't remember if I have seen him as scum and not inclined to go digging just yet.
The Bulge - Conversations seem to be town motivated
SirCakez - Extremely typical meta wise. Bad early takes don't make him scum by themselves. I'll need to read again with more context.
notscience - Conversations seem to be town motivated
Elements - I don't know if scum!Elements has the chops to be so brazenly clueless. Fits with meta, don't know if I have seen a scum game.
Xayah - Falling far below expectations but I can't remember if she has given a RL in this game. Perhaps a bit suspicious?
davesaz - Pretty obviously town if I don't mind saying so myself
Dunnstral - Very standard for meta, very unreadable, very null
InnocentVillagerHayasaka- If there weren't a join date to prove it wrong, I'd swear this is a new player. Seems rather lost and inconsistent. I had no meta on predecessor despite her apparently being well known to others in the player list. Feels a little suspicious.
Not_Mafia - Very standard for meta, perhaps slightly under performing. In someone with more mainstream meta I'd scum read this pretty hard.
One general comment trend that I'll go along with, there isn't enough overt scumminess in this game. It leaves me with no genuine gut scum reads and that's not good.
I admittedly have a higher expectation for you than the rest of this playerlist based on mutual playing history going back to, y'know, pretty much the start of us being on the site.In post 541, dramonic wrote:AGar attempting to give me shit is very insulting when nobody has been producing content of any worth.
Buddy,,,In post 616, davesaz wrote:I don't have a clue what most people's reads are on most players. Because nobody other than me is taking a position (with reasons) on more than 1-2 other players.
Odd take considering the wagon stalled out at 4 votes.In post 662, Malakittens wrote:At this point I accepted my death.In post 657, notscience wrote:She seems very different from her limited availability in 2148. You were there too- doesn’t she seem like way more of a nonentity this game?In post 636, Dunnstral wrote:I don't have strong opinions his game, why are there 4 votes on Malakittens?
Agreed.In post 744, Xayah wrote:Dave is legit the worst D1 lynch in the PL
Anyone who scumread A50 after yesterday is bad and should feel bad. The wagon formed off of lazy shitposters who have contributed nothing.In post 808, Elements wrote:why is it bad?
eat shitIn post 814, SirCakez wrote:Say why or piss off
Did you just try to self-meta?In post 849, Dunnstral wrote:I'm playing like I always do... which is generally to not be very interested in the game day 1 and then pick up from there as stuff starts to happen
Brilliant contribution.In post 852, SirCakez wrote:AGar is A50's buddy lol
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize that was the majority of my posting.In post 864, SirCakez wrote:Right back at youIn post 857, AGar wrote:Brilliant contribution.In post 852, SirCakez wrote:AGar is A50's buddy lol
In post 867, SirCakez wrote:And?In post 865, AGar wrote:Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realize that was the majority of my posting.In post 864, SirCakez wrote:Right back at youIn post 857, AGar wrote:Brilliant contribution.In post 852, SirCakez wrote:AGar is A50's buddy lol
Which VC was this from?In post 873, Almost50 wrote:Furthermore, there are 2-3 scums on this wagon:
Hayasaka (5): Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic
And I already said I TR Dunn & AGar
Hayasaka (replaced by IV) flipped Town. IV was most likely shot because scum thought the wagon failed due to them being Scum, and that Haya replaced out because she was suspected as scum.
Dave seems unlikely to be scum. I would rather yeet amongst {Elements/Mala} kthx. These aren't darts at a board.In post 888, dramonic wrote:We could also stop throwing darts at a board and vote scum.
Just a crazy thought
NoIn post 915, SirCakez wrote:Can we go back to the A50 wagon
Wait then who's my scumbuddy? YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ME WHO THEY ARE ELEMENTS.
In post 936, Elements wrote:did you just claim scum
Oh how modest.In post 947, Elements wrote:I think the best way to read me is probably:
"If Elements is scum, is he playing incredibly badly?"
If the answer is yes I'm town
If the answer is no I'm scum
Ok scumbag.In post 950, Elements wrote:I feel like you are completely mis-reading this.In post 948, AGar wrote:Oh how modest.In post 947, Elements wrote:I think the best way to read me is probably:
"If Elements is scum, is he playing incredibly badly?"
If the answer is yes I'm town
If the answer is no I'm scum
As town the way I play would be incredibly bad if I were scum.
As scum the way I play wouldn't be incredibly bad for my alignment.
Not in Purple - nice modgambit.
Do not like this.
This is dumb.In post 1044, davesaz wrote:@dramonic, perhaps you haven't witnessed me being skeptical of an IC's positions? Literally nothing is sure for me until a flip. Get over it.
Is this a PR claim?In post 1124, Dunnstral wrote:Ah I didn't realize everyone else had claimed already, yeah I amIn post 1120, Almost50 wrote:I keep friggin' forgetting this.In post 1116, Dunnstral wrote:Again, he's claimed vt already.In post 1112, Almost50 wrote:EVEN id ELemets slot is a PR it's still scum of the other type.
So it goes w/o saying bith Dunn & AGar are PRs? (If not, please claim PR anyway, because in that unlikely event a PR claimed VT)
