Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

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VOTE: notmafia
this is entirely based on my dislike of Whitney's miltank

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I am both a mason and a monk, discuss.

Which were you first?

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I don't think his vote was entirely based on his dislike for Whitney's miltank

I don't think your vote was entirely based on your dislike for Axolotls.
VOTE: hayasaka

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AGar, if you have a child and they join ms will you have to change your sig?

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AGar, if you have a child and they join ms

Why would AGar subject his child to this awful site?

Did your parents get you to join this site?

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UNVOTE:

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VOTE: sircakez

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I want to vote Dunn

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Dunn, come say something incriminating

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scared2post, elements?

terrified

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A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

Scum response

Wrong

Right

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A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

Scum response

Wrong

Right

Wrong

Right

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A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.

Scum response

Wrong

Right

Wrong

Right

Wrong[ /quote]

ha

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VOTE: notscience

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UNVOTE:

Don't like this.

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Don’t care, I was pushing someone on the context they weren’t trying to divine my sign meant, took the browns to the super bowl and changed my mind on reflection.

like this even less

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This isn't nearly incriminating enough dunn. Try harder.

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I'm not denying it

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Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Malakittens

Let's fucking do this.

Woo!
I like this energy!
VOTE: malakittens

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you're a scum team

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Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed

Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?

many thIngs.
it's A multiball gaMe so it's highly likely there will be two kills night one. thAt is what i mean when i said "everyone". i was just using hyperbole to indicate the mulTiple pOssible kills at night
after people have been killed it Will no longer be day one either and I don't like day oNe because nothing has happened at the start and so there's not anything to go off. I also have a habit of being lynched day one which is another reason I don't like it.
i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.

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This is amazing and I'm stealing it.

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baffled as to why nobody is voting with me, even if elements is town

What was your reason? I think I know, but want to hear it from you.

elements hasn't had a single worthy post but hasn't done anything scummy to the point of being usable in a case. ie he's been trolling. granted by his volition he is bad at d1 play so maybe that's nai, but my point stands. I'm surprised nobody else cares to put pressure on a slot that seems to me like all it needs is a bit of serious pressure to crack.

I'm not an egg

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I wouldn't call two people a wagon

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I hadn't thought of it that way.
You're keeping me on my toes.

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There’s more than one way to skin a cat.

Why are you skinning cats? That seems like cruelty to animals.

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Why is dave obvscum?

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Town: IV, Malakittens, notscience
Null: A50, N_M
Scum: Xayah, Dunn, The Bulge, SirCakez, davesaz, Agar, Draomic

I think we should lynch someone in my scum list
VOTE: Agar

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The answer

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I think so?
one of them is in my town pile

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Why? I don’t think she’s don’t anything to be a lock townread yet.

It's day one, nothing's lock
my read list was based on people claiming to be town

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Why is dave obvscum?

Scum:davesaz

?

calling someone scum is different from calling them obvscum

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VOTE: dracomic

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stop being so hostlie

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if you'd read the game you'd know how I constructed my ist

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*list

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stop being so hostlie

Stop asking question you already know the answer to?

So you think dave is obvscum because he hasn't claimed town.
I don't believe you.

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so are you going to answer my question now?

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low hanging fruit

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VOTE: sircakez
I think my vote is better placed here

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Town: IV, Malakittens, notscience
Null: A50, N_M
Scum: Xayah, Dunn, The Bulge, SirCakez, davesaz, Agar, Draomic

For everyone who doesn't bother to read, this list is based solely on weather or not people have claimed to be town.

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Coz you claimed something

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I think the number next to SirCakez is wrong

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VOTE: dave

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most people in the game seem to have very few reads.

you are including yourself in this yes?

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VOTE: mala

I don't have strong opinions his game, why are there 4 votes on Malakittens?

There isn't, there's 5

VOTE: cakez

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someone give me a number from 1-12 inclusive

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Here is why A50 is scum:

Anyone who votes me is going to eat a bullet tonight. You have been forewarned.

Claims to be scum in the first post. This could be construed as nai but I disagree. Town coming into a game wants to find out who is town and who is scum. Scum want everyone to think they're town. Opening by claiming scum is, I agree, very WIFOMy from scum. Which is why it's more likely to come from them. They want us to second guess ourselves when considering them.
Claims scum again in 136

Just reading through A50's iso, there's very little actual content, but that's most likely due to the pace of the game so far now I think about it.

That would make N_M the seventh scum to be caught on D1. WELL DONE, Town.

congratulating the town. unconscious distancing. not including himself is the town group. -> scum

Starts scum reading IV for being IV. This is opportunistic and very different tonally to the rest of A50's iso.

VOTE: dave

Weird time to be voting dave tbh

A50/dave pairing!

this is the strongest read I've got
VOTE: a50

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completely unrelated, but how do you put images into posts?

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1) My first list was not a read list of my thought's. It was a list of Town = people who have claimed town, Null = people who have claimed something else, scum = people who haven't claimed
2) You stated you thought IV's entrance was scummy then ask what "town shit" people got from it. That implies you think IV is scum.
3) My point has nothing to do with N_M. They just happened to be in the quote. I'm not saying you are conscious in your choice to distance, I'm saying it's a scum slip.

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1) Doesn't make sense. People who claim scum are null and people who have claimed nothing are scum?? How does this even work for you?

2) Irrelevant. I may or may not SR IV, and it has nothing to do with my alignment. I wanted (and still want) SC to explain what HE sees as town shit done by IV (so maybe he will convince me)

3) I still don't get it. How is it distancing if I'm not scum with him? And why would I distance -consciously or not- from someone I don't even know their alignment? Where is the scum slip?

1) I was trying to get some form of actually readable stuff in this game and thought people would react to an atrocious list like that. It was not a read list.

2) I think it's opportunistic that you're think IV is scum. I'm not talking about your SC read.

3) It's not distancing. You are saying "good job" to "[the] town" which implies you are not part of the town. You are not distancing yourself, your wording is distanced.

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let me go?

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The N_M wagon is stupid and pointless

this is true

What are your thoughts on a50?

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Eh I’m not liking a50 posts now but it might be the mixture of troll plus aggression

help me push him then

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@ns, can I convince you to join in on a50?

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oooh, pagetop!

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The N_M wagon is stupid and pointless

this is true

What are your thoughts on a50?

He's my top SR I've already talked about this

yea, i sort of realised that after I asked

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im pretty sure elements is just bad town

I would love to disagree but my track record is as bumpy as a rlly bumpy thing

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I don't rlly get why N_M is the biggest wagon. It just seems like people have jumped onto it because they can and it's easy.

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Come join me on Elements @dram.

you think I'm scum because I wrote a scum case against you?

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Days ending soon we need to start consolidating

I agree. My preferences are a50 and sircakez. I'll fold to N_M if we can't agree on anyone.

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ns is town and anyone saying otherwise is just wrong

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iv is also town

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Do you think he’s town? If so, why?

I have nothing on N_M

Elements I agree with your reads and am sorry if I was rude, to be clear I don't find your play specifically anti-town nor do i resent your presence in the game. cakez is a good vote today, a50 is a silly push.

Not at all, I am very aware my play style gets people.
a50 started as a silly push but I didn't like his reaction.

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viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83991This is also town!elements

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I honestly can't express how it feels in proper phrasing. I just feel it in my bones that this is NOT his town game (can't even claim I feel similar to when he was scum cuz I was scum with him in that game)

man, you're going to be so disappointed when you find out me role

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ugh
VOTE: not_mafia

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E-1
unless I can't count

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Now tell me who is scum and why?

You because your reaction to my scum case on you was off and I didn't like it.
And sircakez is shifty.

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Now tell me who is scum and why?

You because your reaction to my scum case on you was off and I didn't like it.
And sircakez is shifty.

There are FOUR anti-town players in this setup. Who are your FOUR suspects? I sure as hell wasn't asking if you SR'd me. You made it abundantly clear you did. Now who else? And why?

I don't have any other scum reads yet

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just coz 4 scum exist doesn't mean I know who they are

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And neither is Elements

exuuuuuuuuse me

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intent to hammer

hammer away

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Please lynch elements

why are asking for a town to be lynched?

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nooooooooooooooooooooooo

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i like the latest few sc posts

sorry! this is my alt

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tbh I was waiting for it to happen

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VOTE: a50
I agree

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why is it bad?

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also when if ever do we want the masons and monks to claim?

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ugh, i think a50 is town
UNVOTE:

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VOTE: dave

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why are you sheeping me mala?

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good

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I'm thoroughly confused by everything elements post <_<

Elements is also confused by everything elements posts

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this day is slow
I'm happy to lynch mala or dave
anyone else?

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this day is slow
I'm happy to eleminate mala or dave
anyone else?

ebwop

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i could be persuaded xayah

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Not before at least a couple dates

Dram, will you go out with me?

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sure, elim me
see where it gets you
VOTE: elements

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I didn't remember NM self voted

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Agar is scum and his post was too long to read

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VOTE: Agar
I'm vt

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Elements replaced in to that game.

So? The point is he self-voted as Scum before. His "trust tell" form Gay Mafia is no longer valid. (You do remember why he was mod-killed in that game, don't you?)

it was never a trust tell
I refute that game

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scum are never gonna shoot that.

surely this is a reason not to elim me.
at the end of the game when it's two scum teams and me left they'll kill each other not me and town win

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or maybe everyone else should figure out my playstyle is clearly town

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sounds about right

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a50/xayah
they're not even bothering to hide it now
VOTE: xayah

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Right now I think he may or may not be a PR

wow, what an intellectual thought

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but he is more likely scum either way

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you're completely wrong but sure

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did you just claim scum

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Elements' jump in 68 from not_mafia to Haya reeks of scum content to just push a yeet through regardless of who it was.

no it rlly doesn't

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I think the best way to read me is probably:
"If Elements is scum, is he playing incredibly badly?"
If the answer is yes I'm town
If the answer is no I'm scum

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I think the best way to read me is probably:
"If Elements is scum, is he playing incredibly badly?"
If the answer is yes I'm town
If the answer is no I'm scum

Oh how modest.

I feel like you are completely mis-reading this.
As town the way I play would be incredibly bad if I were scum.
As scum the way I play wouldn't be incredibly bad for my alignment.

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I think the best way to read me is probably:
"If Elements is scum, is he playing incredibly badly?"
If the answer is yes I'm town
If the answer is no I'm scum

Oh how modest.

I feel like you are completely mis-reading this.
As town the way I play would be incredibly bad if I were scum.
As scum the way I play wouldn't be incredibly bad for my alignment.

Ok scumbag.

#toxic