Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

[Big Elephant]

VOTE: derp sounds derpy
~redados

[Big Elephant]

hey I have a question: is scumreading the mod funny? personally, I do not think so.
~redados

[Big Elephant]

i have an even better question: who scumread the mod?

I feel like it always happens and it's the least funny thing ever. I don't care if this puts a huge target on my back, obviously now the mafia has to nightkill me for standing up and being so brave
~redados

[Big Elephant]

no one scum read the mod my dear derp
~redados

[Big Elephant]

no one scum read the mod my dear derp
~redados

so are u townreading the mod?

har har har
VOTE: derp

[Big Elephant]

Obligatory since shelly is there and they're always wolf

gamblers = confirmed bad
OMGUS! VOTE: MiniVirgo

Should we be hypo claiming in this setup considering there’s a cop a silent bus driver

imo, im not good at mech but I think town bus driver should *avoid* driving nulls (cop invest nulls) and drive townreads with scumreads to outWIFOM the nightkill
I think hypoclaiming is a good idea

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Who posted this

- Jv

the other part of me

I think getting out of rvs with mech discussion = decently protown
btw, that vote in 52 was rvs
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

"*Casts vote*

Oops that might get pushback

*here's a dumb reason*"

Thought process of a page 1 scum

imo, feels like shitpushing or trying to find targets early game. explaining self is NAI and you're turning it into an AI reason which is weird.
light red read on johnny

-shelly again

[Big Elephant]

whoops, altslip

copying for ISO purposes

yess well we just try and claim spread-out targets

how about hypoclaiming cop only?

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

can scum self target then? if BD protects a protown voice and swaps with a scummy player, scum can WIFOM and the protown player gets killed

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

UNVOTE:
Light early TR on yessiree for thinking about setup and solving, and same for JV (though JV is very good scum)

pedit: thats a spicy theory :eyes

[Big Elephant]

just dont give results for the "copped" and let the real cop soft somehow? or just have very good reads and be a great scumhunter
or just claim innos as hypo

btw where is mini
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Is my theory true

fine yes

[Big Elephant]

I think we should just do something like

Bus Drive - MiniVirgo/Big Elephant
Cop - Big Elephant (inno)

That way we have a 50% clear on any town that the real cop hypoclaimed, more or less chance depending on who and when it was.

which is more or less what I said. but if real cop ever gets a guilty do they claim the guilty or random inno?

-shelly
68 was from shelly as well

[Big Elephant]

2/3. Scum has their own bus drive, that happens before Town's meaning that protective the most pro-town is semi-useless and we shouldn't ever tell the Cop who to check. Not even in a given poe, they can decide on their own.

not really imo, but i need to think about this more but at first glance i think scum would try to use SBD to make sure their kill doesn't get interfered with TBD(?)

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

why is this so hard

[Big Elephant]

imo the ideal scenario that we get out of hypoclaiming should be
1. force maf to choose sub-optimal kills, or risk killing a bussed target
this is the main reason hypoclaiming bus targets is good so mafia has to guess which one is the genuine bus targets
for it to work though, the hypo target A should be the one we want to protect, and hypo target B should be spread out
I mean sure mafia can try to out-WIFOM the hypo targets but that means the plan is already working by forcing them to choose a sub-optimal target


2. allow cop to get as many valid results as possible
so yes, cop should cop the nulls/hard-to-sorts to avoid getting tangled up with the busses

yes, you're the best

cop has to claim targets imo, its THE way to optimise getting useful info.

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Shelly's overall tone is vastly different than scum!them, although I'm not unvoting

a classic in-the-pants pocket.

hopefully discomfort doesn't arise!

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I'll send a few links soon, but in general when hypoclaiming NEVER fake a guilty and if a Cop does get a guilty, they should claim and out it most likely

doesn't that just confirm the person claiming guilty as real cop
well that's not that bad

but scum BD having priority means cop dies probably

[Big Elephant]

the reason why i hydra'd with redados was to focus on laser-pointing the scum while letting redados obvtown
im the worst ever at obvtowning while redados is very good at it

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Been giving this some thought

I think virgo is rather obvious town? they're trying to think of mechanical options when if they were scum. could have just done in the PT. Overall tone also quite townie, I'm slightly paranoid of them but I think considering optimal strategies for town (which make sense) is rather town!AI
I think yessiree's #87 reads decently genuine, engaging with JV about mechanics and thinking about strategies is unnecessary as scum

I've got pings on Johnny, giving explanations are pretty much NAI, looks like johnny is just trying to make waves out of nowhere. This isn't getting the game out of RVS, its just shitpushing imo

[Big Elephant]

89 was -shelly

VOTE: Johnny
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I think shelly and I are both super paranoid of the other, shelly's really good at pocketing people so beware lol

imo, one of the highlights of playing as scum is getting to eventually townblock with people

I do genuinely think you as my strongest TR atm, scum!JV coasts around a whole lot more, while you're engaging yessiree, you're trying to engage N_M

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

I think N_M disagreeing with the general town vibe might be *slightly* town!AI though, sounds like classic mislynch bait disagreeing with the consensus

redados gunna be up soon, we're on opposite sides of the world so will be here near-24/7

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

and this is true, mech talk is the easiest thing in the world to do as scum

I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone

[Big Elephant]

-shelly

ugh signing posts as hydra is officially my least favourite thing
not really sure what to think of prof. mafia for that vote on me as it's *something* that's game furthering, but at least it's quite a hot take given the townblock between me/JV/yessiree emerging

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

N_M's bold style is pretty town!AI. Scum usually don't go against the grain like that imo.

"People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the generally established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely agree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town." - RadiantCowbells

re: self townblocking, its not really such a bad idea, im just currently identifying yessiree and JV as town and you're doing the same
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

ftr im scumreading johnny's shitpush in their opening so it'd make my day if N_M were to vote there
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Johnny/Professor Mafia/?

+1
Prof. Mafia: Big Elephant is scummy for being agreeable (which 1. is a misrep and 2. even if true, is a personality trait)
--
Me: makes TRs on people
Prof. Mafia: that's bad
how does that come from a town perspective at all????

Town
JV
N_M
yessireee

TBD
everyone else

Scum
Johnny
Prof. Mafia
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Something about Elephant's reads just ping me the wrong way, I guess the best way to describe it is that it seems pocket.

i prefer to PoE early on just like you. i dont care if it sounds pockety, I'm entitled to be liberal with my TRs

prof mafia's the one that's pocketing with a zero explanation TR on MWNN imo. Not everyone that agrees with you is town.

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I take back my SR on Johnny

go elaborate

after my pressure johnny just fluffed, no solving mindset

johnny/prof mafia/someone else solved
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

also encourage other people to weigh in on this

+1

we should try and break the setup instead of just blindly playing this
prof mafias being anti-town, and seeing as they're an alt (probably hectic) it's pretty scummy of them

prof mafia pushed me for apparently having reads (?) when im clearly trying to solve instead of shitpushing here
prof mafia also soft-defended johnny with the shade on MWNN (and sudden reverse of it is illogical), which is very weird
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I think both Johnny and MWNN are easy town. Elephant is a light TR since they haven't full aggro'd yet but that's a bias read.

why is johnny town
tell me how shitpushing, fluffing and providing meta without analysing the current game is town-aligned

also redados been gone
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

PBPA (I ignored the fluff)

She draws some undeserved scumreads. I recently replaced into a game that lost it's whole first day to Shelly vs. The world shenanigans and then she flipped town

giving meta on me without actually analysing my play here.

Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

VOTE: Big Elephant

I shittily try to end RVS but THIS gets no vote? /salty

VOTE: ProfMaf

vote on professor mafia which isn't really followed up anyhow, making me think this isn't a real trajectory

Why hypo cop claim, unless they get scum results immediately it just gives scum more information than they need

trying to shut down mech talk and avoiding the obvious fact that it gives >50% accurate results

Mod confirmed scum for not being bolded correctly

Why provide reasoning in a second post? Town aren't afraid to RVS
VOTE: mwnn

the shitpush on MWNN for apparently explaining things which imo is slightly town aligned. Johnny is making something out of nothing.
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

and this is true, mech talk is the easiest thing in the world to do as scum

I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone

I agree with this

"I agree with this" rather than "I agree, elephant is town"
mindset of pocketing vs. mindset of solving

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

vote on professor mafia which isn't really followed up anyhow, making me think this isn't a real trajectory

kinda wanna elaborate on this
as town to get out of RVS is to find something scummy and push it to become a wagon which leads to more points of discussion
johnny vanity votes professor mafia without any explanation at all, and does not have the motivation of making their vote into a wagon, instead its voting for the sake of voting, which is quite scummy.
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

btw, MiniMegabyte, do you follow the same reads as JacksonVirgo. Either answer could you explain it.

-shelly

[Big Elephant]

i wouldn't use the word pocket but im liberal with TRs (and SRs) as town, so it can be perceived as pocketing.
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

It's the start of the game, shitposting is nai. Their general tone is townie to me, but when they post content that may change.

fwiw tone is not the most accurate way to read people and the easiest thing to fake as scum
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Why did you copy my exact question

- JV

good artists imitate, great artists steal
mini being paranoid is slightly town!AI (I think) same thing happened in newbie 2032
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Big Elephant is sounding increasingly scummy, I think the TR on MiniVirgo is a deep pocket, and they're just generally agreeing with stuff and throwing out forced reads instead of solving.

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

VOTE: Big Elephant

Professor Mafia hasn't got much atm but what they do have I agree with so that can be a TR.

no JV you are at opposite ends of my solve
do you think im scum, if you do, why arent you voting me.
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I like their posts which say that mech-talk is easy to do as scum, which it 100% is as it's called iioa. Which I completely doubt shelly overlooked considering they've been a wiki-book worm.

I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone

[Big Elephant]

town especially in early game has 100% a reason to be proactive and SOLVE the game, while scum do not, they're still getting a feel for everything

now gunna look into derp, i haven't even looked there yet

[Big Elephant]

Derp's posts about reading them as town feels extremely gross to me, as it makes me think they're being super self conscience but we'll see.

ehhhhh they're not that bad imo??? on one hand I can see it as newbie lamist but on the other hand I feel its not in too bad of a tone
null here
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

re: pocketing, I dont have a direct quote but in newbie 2025 I constantly TR'd two players from daystart-my d1 elim (and was correct), and that definitely contributed to my elimination.
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

I might have to just look through your town games to see if you pocket or not, which may change my reads.

I think I only have two completed ones and bth I got almost insta-elimmed.

[Big Elephant]

*tbh
I have 7(?) completed scum games if you wanna compare
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

so guess what
its page 10
it's readslist time (this is ordered btw town -> scum)

TOWN PARADISE
MiniVirgo
yessiree
Not_Mafia
ManWithNoName
derp
TBD
Sando
Sesq
Almost50
arachnidsGrip
wiyvern
SCUM ZONE
Professor Mafia
JohnnyFarrar

[Big Elephant]

i think derps lamist is slightly town!AI for a newb

MWNN is generally fine, i see effort to sort people (like me and prof mafia)

[Big Elephant]

above were from redados (jk its still shelly,

the better side of the hydra

don't get mad at me redados)
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Why do you continue to copy me

- JV

is that forbidden or something tho
-shelly

[Big Elephant]

Cause it seems as tho she can’t think for herself

Kill: MiniVirgo

don't you dare
I have the mental capacity to dayvig you

[Big Elephant]

congrats on overtaking mith
MiniVirgo has died and must stop posting immediately.

serious talk: kinda actually think A50 might be red here
-S (im lazy and will forget signing if I type my full username)

[Big Elephant]

I take back my SR on Johnny

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town
-S

[Big Elephant]

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town

+ a lot of that ISO is rather fluffpost-y and they kinda keep taking back Srs for random reasons + they still haven't made their TRs list public weirdly
-S

[Big Elephant]

Conclusion let's play the game as a mountainous!

Also feels like shutting down mech talk when it's clearly protown to try and find optimal strategy imo

idrt anything about A50 has reeeeally townpinged, and GTH I can see the solve being *exactly* A50/Prof Mafia/Johnny
-S

[Big Elephant]

no you suggested hypoclaiming, they suggested playing it like mountainous, and at the time you didn't say anything about playing like all-vanilla.

that's quite clearly two different things
-S

[Big Elephant]

I think A50 is town for saying that ngl, but that read only just came RN they were null-town beforehand.

like... why

why is shutting down the finding of optimal strategies in open setups town!AI
I just don't get anything from you atm
-S

[Big Elephant]

I never said I said that. I said I was thinking that we either play like mountaenous or we play via hypo-claiming. I decided on the latter so I said so.

Read my post but slowly, or maybe I screwed the wording

MiniVirgo: we can do either mountainous or hypoclaim, I said the latter (hypoclaim)
A50: lets just play mountainous!

is different because A50 didn't entertain the (more optimal) way of playing this through
-S

[Big Elephant]

You did entertain the more optimal play and actually put thought and proactivity in trying to mech-solve this via hypoclaiming, while A50 just suggested to play this like mountainous so there's a fundamental difference and you don't deserve an SR for thinking about just ignoring the mechplay, simply because 1) you didn't state it at the time and 2) you entertained mechsolving

my read is not solely based on this, I have other reasons
-S

[Big Elephant]

I take back my SR on Johnny

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town
-S

seems like a really out-of-place trajectory without reasoning imo, even if johnny is town

+ a lot of that ISO is rather fluffpost-y and they kinda keep taking back Srs for random reasons + they still haven't made their TRs list public weirdly
-S

[Big Elephant]

can you comprehend someone taking back SRs as soon as their scumread target starts delivering *some* content as town? that's more like flip-flopping.

its not a logical progression at all imo
-S

[Big Elephant]

I often start to SR them and then take it back after seeing a post and/or actually thinking about what I said after I said it and change my mind on it.

ehhhhhhh

but immediately. note that there were no posts in between the johnny progression.

[Big Elephant]

Johnny/Professor Mafia/?

No. It's Johnny, Sando & derp, I think.

like this

I take back my SR on Johnny

then this with no johnny posts for A50 to change his mind, nor explanation as to the why
how is this a logical trajectory
-S

[Big Elephant]

It's also possible a50 posted that to try and get them to post or get reactions or something

if I see someone flip-flopping like "shelly is town" 3 mins later: "shelly is scum" im pretty much gonna hard SR there

idk what reaction it gets other than garnering SRs
-S

[Big Elephant]

Yeah that's nothing to really go on, scum would even likely just stick to it as they're self conscious on how flip floppy they may look.

If there is no motivation for a townie to post something, it does not come from town.

I kinda think if you're town, you're pretty much confbiased in your world and ignoring my reads?
-S

pedit: Johnny is SCUM and not LHF for outlined reasons
ok fine scum!A50 town!johnny
if they retract they're accursed of flipfloppiness, which could be translated to re-evaluation
if they don't retract they're accused of opportunism

[Big Elephant]

Reads are very dynamic, sometimes a single post can send someone riiiight down in reads and I know this first hand. I remember TRing scum early D1 (in my game where I got both scum d1), and they made very small posts which dropped my read on them to a SR.

but johnny hasn't even responded to the reaction test yet...

did you explain the *why* and outline which posts that changed your mind in that whatever game
-S

[Big Elephant]

nahhhhh im more confident as town now because my accuracy in reads is actually improving

overjustification is a scumtell
-S

gonna change themes

[Big Elephant]

the reason why i hydra'd with redados was to focus on laser-pointing the scum while letting redados obvtown
im the worst ever at obvtowning while redados is very good at it

-shelly

great job obvtowning, me. hello everyone. I have been gone for a couple of days and am catching up. I've played a handful of nine person games and one thirteen person game and in that game I was flailing. I for sure find it hard to develop reads in this type of game. I will develop them slowly. Don't rush me into them.

Shelly is really easy to scum read. We are not scum.

I think both Johnny and MWNN are easy town. Elephant is a light TR since they haven't full aggro'd yet but that's a bias read.

Redados, do you follow the same reads as shelly. Either answer could you explain it.

Shelly has posted a full reads list. I can't read everyone on that list yet. I have a light sr on derp. The Johnny/MWNN bloc makes me feel weird. Still figuring out why.
~Redados

[Big Elephant]

sure is fortunate that u are townreading ur other head

lmao
~redados

[Big Elephant]

Can you believe that I wanted to be big bird (from Sesame Street) but shelly shot me down, so now we're Big Elephant.
~redados

[Big Elephant]

Big E help me understand how you read derp

gut

[Big Elephant]

this is Redados btw
~redados

[Big Elephant]

Shelly is really easy to scum read

no i have an 83% scum WR

[Big Elephant]

-S

i dont reeeeally concur with the derp push, but i think prof maf is scum and will move there because i TR yess

[Big Elephant]

still rather sold on A50 scum, JV being A50's lawyer somehow doesn't sit right with my gut

-S

[Big Elephant]

Like, why hasn't anyone else felt the need to fake post a readlist? And how on God's earth does someone have a read on literally every player than has posted? Every single slot that is/can be called remotely active shelly has a read on?

yes

its not fake btw, its what I believe in

I have early reads so I can evaluate them and find scum

[Big Elephant]

there is scum in {prof mafia, johnny, derp}
there is scum. in {MWNN, A50}

these are my conclusions atm
-S

[Big Elephant]

big elephant is hardcore omgussing. MWNN/A50 are probably both town

hot take: I have a mild SR on MiniVirgo. Trying to defend A50 sounds a bit like a buddy attempt imo.

i think a lot of scum are inactive

I read this like 3 times and I cant see this coming from town

yessiree you're literally my soulmate

sr on JV is making something out of nothing
townbinning mwnn + A50 without reasoning
omgussing is labelling me as scum without explaining or intent to make it a wagon

VOTE: Professor Mafia
-S

[Big Elephant]

VOTE: Big Elephant

why are we voting big elephant?

ah, the classic vote and questioning the why of the vote

elbirn thoughts on professor mafia?

[Big Elephant]

-S

yessireee thoughts on johnny slot? im SR'ing there rather hard
-S

[Big Elephant]

- Acts OMGUS'y as all heck as a scum-tell.
- Refuses to see my logic and bases a SR around my logic against it, and then continues to shove me in the SR pile because they have no other way to deny my logic.
- Thinks their SR is absolute and there's no way they can be wrong, similar to how they feigned confidence in the large normal.
- Continued to copy and pocket the living daylights out of me when I TR'd them, but I refused to push that because mini and I had a plan to test which I'll explain below but they switched instantly when I expressed any sort of scum-read on them and/or call them out on false logic.


Initially I brought up to mini that I thought a shelly scum-tell would be their super OMGUSy and pockety behaviour depending on how you act towards them. I wanted to test that initally by having Mini SR them and myself TR them. See if they reacted much differently to me than to her (although mini didn't post much). As SOON as I started disagreeing with her, she immediately switched their read on me. It was ticking exactly like I expected it to, if that is their town-meta as well they should probably learn to actually accept that they're not always right on their reads and shouldn't ever push anyone that stands against them.

I'll probably have to read through Redados's specific posts as I could be super biased. Also mini brought up that shelly being lynched D1 is a town-tell lmfaooo.

- JV

- I never, ever SR'd you, I said your logic was INCORRECT, not that you were scummy, can you quote where i SR'd you, this is a misrep.
- I refuse to see your logic because you refuse to see mine.
- I have confidence as either alignment??????
- im omgussy as town with bad logic pushes BECAUSE I'm an extremely self-aware scum. tell me where i omgussed in that large normal; in fact I probably did the opposite of it
- I've got reasonable confidence in my reads because i know that they're probably correct.
- you're sr'ing me for tr'ing you???????? which doesn't make sense at all. there are differences between pockets and TRs and it comes down to reasoning

YES GETTING LYNCHED D1 IS A TOWNTELL FOR ME. the reason why I get elim'd d1 is that because I have weird and (CORRECT) reads and this is exactly the same
my playstyle is naturally scummy because I'm bad at OBVTOWNING AND I JUST COMPLETELY FAIL AT IT
im gonna take a break from this thread because this is frustrating as fuck
-S

[Big Elephant]

Jackson you've played with me as scum, you know that im very self aware and i'd never ever omgus as scum
are you telling me to stop townreading people whatsoever
I actually TR'd you for reasons, that you're proactively engaging and solving (and still are) but you're just terribly wrong at this
-S

[Big Elephant]

if that is their town-meta as well they should probably learn to actually accept that they're not always right on their reads and shouldn't ever push anyone that stands against them.

my strength as town is read accuracy and my weakness is seeming townie.
omgussing works a charm for reaction testing as well
i know my push on prof mafia/johnny/A50-lurker solve is probably correct

[Big Elephant]

-S

can someone, someone actually give a reason other than "POCKETING" to SR me, because im clearly not POCKETING and I should be liberal with my TRs

-S

[Big Elephant]

"People who have really out there reads, stick out too much, don't agree with the established townblock, and want to do their own thing which people don't largely agree with get lynched incredibly consistently. They also incredibly consistently flip town." - RadiantCowbells

[Big Elephant]

UNVOTE:
Light early TR on yessiree for thinking about setup and solving, and same for JV (though JV is very good scum)

pedit: thats a spicy theory :eyes

I think mech talk is a bad way to TR people fwiw

and this is true, mech talk is the easiest thing in the world to do as scum

I mean, it's not the talk itelf that gives JV and yessiree townpoints, it's the proactivity, it's how they suggest solutions to solve this game and furthering the game out of RVS, and how they engage each other in a very genuine tone

Johnny/Professor Mafia/?

+1
Prof. Mafia: Big Elephant is scummy for being agreeable (which 1. is a misrep and 2. even if true, is a personality trait)
--
Me: makes TRs on people
Prof. Mafia: that's bad
how does that come from a town perspective at all????

Town
JV
N_M
yessireee

TBD
everyone else

Scum
Johnny
Prof. Mafia
-shelly

still rather sold on A50 scum, JV being A50's lawyer somehow doesn't sit right with my gut

-S

i said doesn't sit right =! SR
im like, genuinely frustrated here because you're scumreading me for bad reasons but i know you're prob!town
gonna respond to other points
-S
pedit: how am i actively trying to fit into what the players say with my SRs of prof mafia and A50

[Big Elephant]

No that isn't why you get lynched, it's because you're easy miselim material when you're Town. You pushing that you always have correct reads is a reason for me to believe you're bussing somewhat if you're scum and/or too cocky of Town. Also nice ate

you can say its TMI all you want but I actually do project a mostly confident tone as either alignment
scumread for playstyle = confbias

you also retracted many of your points saying "I'll look over *something* later"
-S

[Big Elephant]

"JV being A50's lawyer somehow doesn't sit right with my gut"
= I said the act of you defending A50 was weird and didn't sit right with me

how is that a SR
-S

PEDIT: THAT WAS DESCRIBING PROF MAFIAS SR ON ME
NOT THAT I SR YOU
ugh

[Big Elephant]

This is what I intended to say:

Professor Mafia's SR on JV is making something on nothing.
Professor Mafia is townbinning mwnn + A50 without reasoning
Professor Mafia's labelling of omgussing is labelling me as scum without explaining or intent to make it a wagon

-S

[Big Elephant]

(I feel dumb)

Also my other points still stand, but I'll let it slide for now (out of shame)
VOTE: derp

i'd recommend you reviewing some of my towngames

I'll convince you further later after dinner if you want
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[Big Elephant]

Shelly, do you copy+paste the quotes? Or why the hell does the bbcode just like, nope itself

i just press the quote button + highlight where I wanna quote

with massquote i just mostly do the same thing other than previewing it tons of times
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