Someone once chose pi to about 8 or 9 digits, no decimal. They wanted to choose with the decimal and the mod wouldn't allow it.In post 64, petapan wrote:i did it because the idea of bidding a million was funny to me
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Someone once chose pi to about 8 or 9 digits, no decimal. They wanted to choose with the decimal and the mod wouldn't allow it.In post 64, petapan wrote:i did it because the idea of bidding a million was funny to me
This has been said in other ways already, but if Hoopla rolled scum I pretty much expect the scumteam to double or triple just to exploit the historical numbers game. That idea meshes well with choosing informed as well. Note, I'm saying this without having referred back to the numbers, so I could be talking out my ass if she's a singleton.In post 85, Something_Smart wrote:Hoopla's analysis was really valuable last time.
But that alone, combined with the number of players here who were in that game, makes it less valuable.
Last game (that I modded) the scum team got absolutely nothing out of their PRs other than being caught.In post 96, skitter30 wrote:I guess my feeling om doubling up is that the wifom boost scum gets isnt worth deliberately throwing away the chance to get prs - in late game the 'doubling up' reasoning for clearing someone hasnt been given that much weight in my experience in practice
But if someone thinks that wifom boost is worth it, the calculation becomes different, obviously
We talk about who was placing undue emphasis on it. Or make a big wagon and see what comes of it.In post 113, skitter30 wrote:Sure, but there isnt oodles to talk about otherwise yet
Slight over reaction I think.In post 193, skitter30 wrote:sorry, to be clear i meant in a 'trying to determine if he's town' sort of sense!
light buddying?In post 227, petapan wrote:also lmao at people asking something_smart to "vote" or if he "has reads". he exists on a different plane from us mere mortals
Reminder @whomever didn't like my Jackson vote.In post 126, davesaz wrote:Or make a big wagon and see what comes of it.
In post 446, Dunnstral wrote:Talk about it a little bit?In post 444, davesaz wrote:In the last 4 pages, 1 of which appeared while I was reading, I think TGP looks like scum.
VOTE: TGP
I think Dunn's response looks better than skitter's.In post 448, skitter30 wrote:Oh i also have some scumping on dave, i forgot to say that
Starts off highly apologetic. Why such emphasis?In post 370, TheGoldenParadox wrote:how are we at 15 pagesi sweari didn't get the daystart pm that long ago
the entire lilith wagon feels manufactured and VOTE: penguinpower is pinging me especially hard, as is hoopla for what boils down to opportunistic wagon hopping.
This early in the game I don't think that thinking of wagons as CWs is a town oriented mindset. In the town mindset it's a CW if and only if you suspect the target of the 1st wagon. In the early game we have multiple wagons which are on unknown alignments and we don't know whether the 2nd one is in response to the 1st one unless it's either stated directly as such or if there are signs that it's competitive.In post 394, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i think JV is town, because it seems like their wagon started as a town-driven CW to lillith before hoopla jumped onto it.
Indirectly scumreading Hoopla but nowhere in this ISO is it made clear why Hoopla would be a scumread.In post 413, TheGoldenParadox wrote:sorry, let me rephrase this with some more clarity. basically, i think JV's wagon began with town (lillith and petapan) and i think hoopla is scum that jumped on it. because hoopla put a vote down there, it makes me townlean on JV.In post 394, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i think JV is town, because it seems like their wagon started as a town-driven CW to lillith before hoopla jumped onto it.
This is indicative of scum caught for the wrong reason. Though it is pretty weak for that tell coming from someone who hasn't really been under heavy suspicion. I'm not the only one who thought this.In post 422, TheGoldenParadox wrote:jackson wagon was hot and new
lillith wagon was an rvs wagon based essentially solely on the fact that they were first in the PL
penguinyou can call my takes bad but calling me scum for them is a terrible takeyourself
Again with the apologies. I don't think I have played with TGP enough times to be able to say for certain, but this is pretty early in the game to be so worried about how one's posting looks and it seems perhaps out of character.In post 432, TheGoldenParadox wrote:apologies town driven cw is probably the worst way i could have worded it ever
a new wagon started by town that scum!hoopla jumped on
Eh, fair enough. I'm used to much more though it is extremely early still.In post 467, petapan wrote:it's in his first post? "opportunistic wagon hopping". strong noob vibes.In post 466, davesaz wrote:Indirectly scumreading Hoopla but nowhere in this ISO is it made clear why Hoopla would be a scumread.
Who was that for, TGP?In post 473, skitter30 wrote:So it doesnt get lost in the shuffle ^In post 434, skitter30 wrote:Ok how do you get from that thought to 'this is town-indicative for jv'
How do you feel about JV's posts independent of wagons?In post 494, TheGoldenParadox wrote:and after reevaluating my read on JV it's more of a townlean than a townread
There were people saying that the lilith wagon had formed because she had first pick in the draft.In post 523, JacksonVirgo wrote:Uhhh, what even is this?In post 368, PenguinPower wrote:there's nothing wrong with that.In post 366, davesaz wrote:Nobody asked, but my lilith vote was because she went out of her way to pagetop.
I don't normally comment on stuff I agree with or butt into other people's conversations.In post 552, Uncrowned wrote:Is there a reason you've singled out TGP here while ignoring most of the others slots in the game?
More focus on posting and less on numbers.In post 553, Hoopla wrote:i also just realised jackson virgo is in the group of 4's. this is shocking play on my part. there's no way i'm executing from that bracket on D1.
If there are multiple 4's, one of them would want to make this argument.In post 559, Hoopla wrote:there is max one scum amongst us 4's, unless a zany gambit is afoot.
Nah, never underestimate the power of an early bus. It's basically without risk and can establish anti-associatives if too many people think this way.In post 561, Uncrowned wrote:Hoopla's joining of your wagon though makes me believe that if one of you is scum, the other will not be.
My experience is mostly the underwhelming games.In post 584, skitter30 wrote:He has towngames like the one you describe, but he also has towngames where he's more underwhelming and absentIn post 576, Hoopla wrote:dunnstral - played a game as scum against him recently, and he was a dominant voice on D1 that seemed quite obviously town. granted, i had confirmed info that game which can sometimes trick you into thinking someone is more town than they actually are, but i haven't seen similar town energy from him yet.
I approve of your assessment of me : thumbsup:
Exactly, the numbers should be the last thing on our minds d1. It doesn't actually become relevant until someone early in the draft doesn't get NK'd.In post 590, JacksonVirgo wrote:I don't like the fact they refuse to read in the 4s or whatnot, I feel that's just stupid for town to do.
I have not looked at all previous runs, but AFAIK there has always been at least one PR that is not chosen in the draft.In post 594, JacksonVirgo wrote:Is there a world where all the PRs are active btw?
It doesn't appear on my browser, so I think it shows based on the client-side timestamp. Happy scumday in advance I guess?In post 612, JacksonVirgo wrote:Get fucked Hoopa I now have the cake!
I did, so you can comment on it.In post 644, Something_Smart wrote:It seems mostly accurate and I would like to hear a response from dave if he hasn't given one yet.In post 565, Uncrowned wrote:sorry to be self-indulgent but do you have any thoughts on Post 552
Of course it's possible. I'm saying I don't normally do it.In post 658, Something_Smart wrote:Oh, this?It doesn't really feel satisfactory to me. It's certainly possible to respond to someone without butting into their conversation.In post 631, davesaz wrote:I don't normally comment on stuff I agree with or butt into other people's conversations.
Eh, maybe I'm underestimating a bit on the commenting on things I agree with thing.In post 659, PenguinPower wrote:i don't think they actually believe what they are saying.In post 655, skitter30 wrote:I dont think they're that bad tbh
Ignoring the 4's cuz they're doubled is silly, let's just focus on whoever we think is scum!
Followup: Is your lilith vote more or less grounded than your thought that TGP doesn't believe what they're saying?In post 659, PenguinPower wrote:i don't think they actually believe what they are saying.In post 655, skitter30 wrote:I dont think they're that bad tbh
Ignoring the 4's cuz they're doubled is silly, let's just focus on whoever we think is scum!
In post 669, PenguinPower wrote:yes - mostly her posting on ss and skitter
Thanks -- yeah I see those and have somewhat mixed feelings on it. It seems rather far fetched as a theory, but I'm not sure it's AI to be concerned about a possible hack job. In particular what motivation would scum have to bring up that type of concern early on vs. trying to ride it out? On the other hand there are some people who try to play the martyr as scum in that situation. Town in the #1 position have to be constantly on the lookout for scum trying a cheap miselim. I don't know lilith well enough to use meta. So yeah, big ball of undecided here.
If you're going to call Uncrowned a low signal:noise, I'm going to question whether you're actually reading or if you're merely looking at post count.In post 690, Hoopla wrote:it usually takes me a while to read low signal:noise players.
How many of my posts have been specifically about you?In post 710, TheGoldenParadox wrote:dave is slightly weird because they seem to be focusing on me to a greater extent than they should be
This didn't really make any sense to me. You're mentioning attributes of her posting but not saying what those attributes tell you about her alignment.In post 714, Infinity 324 wrote:It's hard to explain, but I want to say it's her level of comfort with certain things. It makes sense to not necessarily want to elim in the 4s, but I think she may be more worried about pulling a gambit since they did that before.In post 711, Uncrowned wrote:What about her is scummy to you, then?In post 709, Infinity 324 wrote:I think people's reasons for scumreading hoopla are not the best but I am also getting scumvibes from her.
And if you can go a bit further, what do you think aren't good reasons for her being scumread?
I think hoopla, like s_s in a way, is slow to jump to conclusions, and e.g. saying she'll sort you later since you're very active makes sense from a town perspective, since it's hard to appear towny for long periods of time when you're very active.
680 is extremely precise, you're not wrong there. Have you seen the glory of my precision before? It seems like perhaps not.
Nah, links are worse than useless. Quote or nothing.In post 734, Uncrowned wrote:I like the layout of the catchup (might steal that tbh)
It's about time someone had the guts to say this.In post 749, Infinity 324 wrote:I don't think we want to lim lilith today cause she's a PR, time for a hoopla wagon?
In the game I just got done modding, scum had 2 PRs and got zero utility out of either one.In post 754, petapan wrote: but if she's a scum pr that would be a good thing wouldn't it
I said that if we're going to go there we should do it with more time left in the day.In post 815, Infinity 324 wrote:Wait, I thought you were null reading lilith and we shouldn't elim the top draft slot?
I at least want a claim I think
It's forcing us to have the discussion on whether the scumread from skitter is real or not, now instead of 3 days from now.In post 836, Infinity 324 wrote:Why so quick to compromise? We still have 3 days
Town could have a tracker unless there has been a JK claim I've missed.In post 840, Infinity 324 wrote:Actually town doesn’t have a tracker right? Honestly I feel like skitter is confident enough that we maybe just lim lilith here. But I think we should talk about it more.
PEdit: you didn’t need to put it to L-1 though?
Allowing people to refuse to claim unless they see intent is what you're talking about, and I agree meta has moved way too far toward thinking premature claims are scummy and expecting people to try to hold out.In post 883, DrippingGoofball wrote:I hate that.In post 880, Something_Smart wrote:Is getting a claim not what intent to hammer is designed to accomplish?In post 877, DrippingGoofball wrote:I wish there were more players with that attitude instead of asking for those infuriating "intents to hammer."
You catch so many scum running them up and then they scramble to fakeclaim. Asking for "intent to hammer" just buys time for scum.
Rush-claiming is never an issue for a townie. See my sig.
I was wrong, it was Infinity that didn't like one of my higher precision posts. See 720 and its predecessors. I made a comment about you in the reply which is what I associated to.In post 990, Uncrowned wrote:Which post was this?In post 984, davesaz wrote:It's the same thing Uncrowned didn't like about one of my posts. Logical people tend to be much more precise than non-logical, and it bothers the non-logicals.
Sorry this is far enough removed that I'm not sure what you're referring back to exactly.In post 995, lilith2013 wrote:I mean I’ve locktowned him every time he’s been town, and when I read his games that I’m not in I read him correctly, but I’ve never been in a game with scum!SS so I’m talking specifically about how he would approach me. He knows literally all of that so I’d expect he would be trying really hard to play to how he thinks I think of him as town.