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Scum might get slightly more agency, but I feel as if having votes of some kind to go off of would be useful for getting reads. I'm sure things will get better as stuff happens but without votes I feel a little unsure of what to talk about.In post 54, shellyc wrote:
hmmmIn post 41, Akarin wrote:What if each of us names 2 players other than ourselves, like a pseudo-vote thing.
Then after a certain point, the 2 players named most often have to pair off.
So like the same concept as RVS wagons basically, but we flip 2 people.
i don't think leashing is that good of an idea tbh, scum getting a say through leashing may be dangerous
i think there's very slight +town equity to proposing these mech approaches (granted mechtalk is an easy way to get cred as scum) but its bold/new-
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Just trying to get Hectic to fall for you while blessing other pairs would be a very convenient scum strategy :CIn post 99, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Fidget noooooo
Not that you wouldn't do it as town too, but nyeh! I need a bottom half. Maybe Akarin or Jake are wrongly healed.-
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In post 126, Uncrowned wrote:HECTIC YOU SNEAKY
I thought your proposal was real... but if you truly cared about me, my engagement ring would've had the correct trusting format on it.
You're dead to me.
This probably isn't faked and is the best I have to go off of for someone being town at the moment.In post 138, Uncrowned wrote:so I kind of had this mega IQ play i was hoping to pull off where someone would jump to say that bear is confirmed along with me and if that was the case they were probs scum together but then i realized that thing in the next post where it doesn't confirm me either from other players perspectives + the fact that it wasn't the right format
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What would you rate your paranoia levels of Hectic?In post 147, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Shelly sounds very shady here.
I want to believe my Hectic is true, but I fear rejection and heartbreak :(-
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Is it scum-indicative for Hectic not to mind pushes?In post 160, shellyc wrote:
you're still fluffing and being nonchalant about my push on youIn post 141, Hectic wrote:Anything other than the fluff, shelly?
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HEAL: Akarin - Not much too more than proactiveness and a good townread on me, so not terribly confident here yet, but a higher chance than random of being town sure.
HEAL: Hectic - Does go a bit counter to scum wincon to draw out townslips.
HEAL: Jake The Wolfie - I think Jake dislikes playing scum, I probably slightly townread since he hasn't ghosted which I've seen scum!him do.
Necessary Sneasel- I feel like this player has been poking and prodding, sure, but I'm not convinced they are solving as of yet. He really has just been asking Akarin why she has townreads.
HURT: PookyTheMagicalBear - Scum!Pooky knows that all he has to do is fluff and ask a player to trust his townie soul. Would he do it as town too? Probably, but I cannot point to anything that makes him town yet which makes me a tad concerned.
Rainbow Reads- No opinion as of yet.
HEAL: Rockhopper - Shelly suspicion good.
HURT: shellyc - I am finding the Hectic suspicion a tad unusual, but will be in need of more information. Essentially, shelly does not remind me so much of the shelly I played with in Trials so far.
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Why's that?In post 211, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
ahaIn post 201, Akarin wrote:
She obviously understood about Equinox's disgusting anti-suffrage stance, but chose to RVS vote for Pooky right after me, building momentum. It's a dumb page 1 read but I feel like scum would have been more likely to either not vote or vote elsewhere.In post 184, Necessary Sneasel wrote:what made you like the other person's opener? not jake. i forgot the username of the one i'm asking about.
But post 98, post 171 progression, and post 171 also strike me as pretty towny, so I have grown more confident in my town read there.
i think nonchalance, or even silliness, is what i was looking for in fidget's opening
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Why are you trying to set up other couples, Pooky?
That's the idea!In post 192, shellyc wrote:im pretty sure buzzwording is one of my alignment tells which nobody has found out yet
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Scum wins by getting us to scumread town players over them.In post 241, shellyc wrote:drawing out townslips is the ideal town!play so scum would aim to imitate it
fidget do you think solving/posting reads is "counter to scum wincon?" this is very similar
This is different from Hectic having a towncase for Uncrowned or simply townreading him. Townreads are a much more subjective thing than trying to initiate behavior that makes a player's towniness self-evident. He actively forced Uncrowned out of the elimination pool, which drops one of scum's chances to win.-
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I see.In post 223, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
the people i want to do things (pooky, hectic, rock first and then jake & rr) aren't really doing anything so this is a pretty correct take on my play yeahIn post 217, Fidget wrote:Necessary Sneasel - I feel like this player has been poking and prodding, sure, but I'm not convinced they are solving as of yet. He really has just been asking Akarin why she has townreads.
akarin is actually townposting so i want to check my own reads on her more than get a read on her
Yes.In post 224, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
is this the only reason you townread uncrowned?In post 217, Fidget wrote:HEAL: Uncrowned - Town reaction to trust.
Looking through, I somewhat like him asking to be trusted. Other than that, I am going off of the stretch of posts after the Hectic trust. I believe they are real.
I believe the only way they aren't is probably if Uncrowned and Hectic are partnered, and he got a notice in advance. I heavily doubt that, though.-
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So if that was a null point, what is it that you were scumreading Hectic for, exactly?In post 250, shellyc wrote:244 is misrep btw. I never said that scum would do it MORE as town. I said scum would aim to imitate this behaviour so town hunting in itself is not worthy of a TR. you are twisting my words.
Pedit: were you aware of the formatting of the trusting at the time?
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Yeah no, not retrusting to cast a shadow on Uncrowned alignment makes no sense as a motive. Scum wins by trusting.
Uh no updates on Jake, Rainbow, or shelly really. I'm entertaining a slight paranoia of Pooky and Gloria although I do not remember who Gloria replaced.
Oh, I liked Rockhopper. We'll see then. I like Hectic and Akarin slightly which I guess is the best I can go off of in this setup although I wouldn't exactly say I'm willing to bet the game on these reads. Ironically at the same time I really think we should start pairing so we do have something to go off of.-
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Ahh, I forgot.In post 411, Gloria Cleary wrote:I don’t think Pooky is necessary lockscum by that but however Sneasel is correct about the setup. It is possible for scum to guilty themselves because if both scum trust each other then nothing happens, so yes if they do that then they are 100% guiltied.
Okay, well if Uncrowned is scum then I'll think about that but otherwise it doesn't make much sense to assume S-S just because of a rescinded request. And I don't think Uncrowned is scum regardless. And if he is, we probably have already lost anyway.
They are likely T-T, why?In post 413, Akarin wrote:Like there's a significant chance Rainbow-Jake is T-T, and in that case we remove the... noise about their lack of noise from the game. And if one is scum we'll have just done the POE paranoia elim a bit earlier than doing it at endgame. If both are scum the pairing will fail and then game solved! (No way is it gonna be that easy.)
You want to pair them together because they might miraculously be scum together. Why would we do that rather than just pair off townreads and proceed from there?
Why should we trust them rather than kill them? Leave them alive til the endgame and see how much they want to win and then decide their fates there, is what I would think.In post 419, Akarin wrote:I think I'm like 0.01% more likely town than random on Jake and absolute coinflip on Rainbow, but I'm not sure I see it getting much better than that, and I see some value in removing them from the equation, because statistically everyone is a bit more likely town than scum anyway.
Mm, I do still resent this read, for the record.In post 399, Hectic wrote:Oh, hang on, that probably doesn't count as a contentful post
Pooky is my soul mason
Akarin is pleasant
Sneasle is reliable
Gloria is wholesome
Jake is awesome
Fidget is cute
Rainbow Reads is fun
shelly is inspiring
Uncrowned is adorable
That should do it
I do like this line of thinking, even if I don't get pairing the nulls.In post 419, Akarin wrote:If we pair consensus town reads first we have no one trustworthy around to give opinions.-
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I think Akarin is town now.. I like the recollection of her thought process here.In post 421, Akarin wrote:I actually almost proposed to Sneasel earlier today, not that I think he'd accept, but I'm having some paranoia there. I think he's probably more likely town than not but I don't know, something about the "I'm gonna pair with Akarin, somebody stop me" thing. Plus, if he is town, I wouldn't want him to actually accept anyway.
There's 4 hours after Sneasel proposed to Uncrowned where Uncrowned was admittedly not that active butdidhave a couple posts on site elsewhere and there's not enough scum for it to be Sneasel + Uncrowned + Pooky. So scum!Uncrowned should have paired with whichever was town, or either if they both were.
I don't see what the gambit does for Uncrowned here if scum, and it's possible that it's Pooky + Uncrowned and Uncrowned missed the Sneasel thing but I think that'smuchless likely than Sneasel seems to think it is.
Maybe. Playing the odds, sure, random nulls have a 4/5 chance of being town. There's only a 65% chance thatIn post 423, Akarin wrote:You know how when you get like halfway through a normal game and you just want to eliminate those players who have done absolutely nothing towny all game and you can't stand them making it to endgame, but then they flip VT?
I feel like that's Jake and Rainbow.bothtrue nulls will both flip town, though, if I understand math.
Unless we have evidence that Jake and Rainbow would do more as scum, I'm not sure it's a good idea. For example, I have known Jake to ghost out of a game when he was mafia. I want to say it was either 2d3 & Monks + Masons, but I'd have to check.
I promise I will get back to you on this if/when I decide to fully townread you. It's not a terribly large paranoia, though.In post 424, Gloria Cleary wrote:I’m curious as to why you have a slight paranoia on me but you apparently read my predecessor right so this question is more out of curiosity than anything.
Also tell me more about your Pooky paranoia. I’m trying to understand why they’re not giving reads. It really doesn’t make sense coming from either alignment.
With Pooky, it's tricky. Usually I would expect him to seize hold of a gamestate as scum, whereas as town he might just do whatever. In this game though, I am not sure. You aren't really obligated to do anything except for get trusted, as both alignments, really. Figuring out who we shouldn't trust is helpful, but technically the bare minimum a townie must do is be trusted.
Pooky can get away with not reading people terribly much and just messing around as either alignment.. I'm not sure what to expect. I'm gut-worried that the messing around, setting up couples without much game substance and all that he's doing is faked, but I don't have much in the way of reasoning or why I think that exactly.-
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That is my thinking also.In post 426, Gloria Cleary wrote:
True but you can have townleans, so I think we save our strongest trs closer to the end and ship a pair that most people at least townlean both of them. I certainly won’t miss not being able to read RR’s posts in any case.In post 414, Akarin wrote:Um, the POE thing doesn't make sense the way I just said it, but it makes sense logically if you think about it.
Neither is likely to be anyone's top townread or top scumread is what I mean.
The only worry I have is that scum has an incentive to get townread, perhaps slightly more than town do, so I might mistakenly put scum in my "weakly townlean" section as a result of their efforts. I would say I have a slight tendency to hard townread town, light townread town and scum, and then nullread town.
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Yes, I think if the consensus is that Sneasel is towny, then I support Akarin-Sneasel. I think they're both far more likely town than null, although Uncrowned is still by far my favorite. And if, say, Akarin is scum, my reads are probably doomed to begin with.In post 429, Gloria Cleary wrote:Okay, I still want to hear from others but I’m starting to kind of mindmeld on this. Alright. if Fidget and Sneasel are okay with this pairing, I’m onboard.
Hahahaha.In post 432, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I TR him but he is not good enough for my daughter Akarin
Frankly he sounds like a crazy person.
I could see shelly being town here, although I cannot be sure. The vast majority of us are town, so it follows that the large majority of townreads will be correct and agreed upon. Hrm..In post 437, shellyc wrote:HURT WITH A BLADE: pooky
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gloria is giving off those obvtown vibes especially with her pressing onto pooky, akarin is solvey enough, unc is conftown, hectic i need to re-engage with when he's back, fidget on a whimsical reread of iso has garned a TR from me through effort-y, proactive posting style, necessary I townleaned before my flake but the iso i'd be willing to townlean through pressure towards pooky, rainbow is lurking
Oh okay, so much for this pairing. I think this read is completely and utterly insane, though, Sneasel.In post 438, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
akarin is scum because the four pages between this & her last post are filled with actual content and this is a really peculiar moment to pop in with a mech comment - go back and reread from her last post to this one and tell me you think an akarin who is reading and trying to solve the game makes this post without commenting on anything elseIn post 304, Akarin wrote:When we do start pairing up, instead of pairing top townreads first, I kind of think we should pair from the middle pairs until we hit scum, then reevaluate for the last few.
unconscious guilt over me saying I was going to trust her is showing
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I feel the opposite way about Rainbow. They've been bringing out flashy readslists, but in reality they haven't really done anything to further town wincon with them at all. After all, they haven't really shown us their work, no? So it really only gives us the vague impression that Rainbow is solving, without them actually having to show us any of their solving.In post 439, Necessary Sneasel wrote:don't slander me I have no reads
rainbow reads weakly town because I don't feel like they're trying to look town (this is a setup which necessitates scum being very likeable), so much as doing things which they need to do as town. their iso is very undersold.
jake has done nothing in this game
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I don't think Sneasel is correct on the setup spec.. yes, Pooky is scum with Uncrowned if they don't partner... but the only way to derive Pooky as scum from that is if Uncrowned is assumed to be scum.In post 476, Gloria Cleary wrote:If Pooky is scum, he could possibly be setting up his buddy to be trusted and escape and him play the long game by suddenly fake towning it up? With everyone having him at bottom of his PoE, would be a great way for he and his buddy to distance imo.
He could also be town deliberately playing scummy to reach endgame. He does seem to be genuinely annoyed at Sneasel despite him being correct on setup spec but I’ve also seen him be annoyed as scum in Hideyoshi, so that in itself is NIA.
I’m not really sure what is going on with him and Jake. Did Jake want Pooky to make her a trust offer because she never made one formally to him.
HURT: RR No way town has either us so low.
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Sneasel, you're going to need to do more than discredit reasons for Akarin being townread in order to prove she is scum. Townreads, I feel, are going to be inherently weak since there is A.) no elimination mechanic, B.) many many absences, and C.) no flips yet.
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In post 484, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Yes,
anyone who asks for you or Akarin's hand must first get permission from me or I will take out my trusty shotgun.
I will... keep all of that in mind.In post 486, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If fidget or akarin sneak out at night behind my back and end up dating the wrong sort of man I will literally flip out.-
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My paws aren't really capable of doing that, I promise.In post 490, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Are your fingers crossed behind your back young lady?
Oh come on.In post 455, Akarin wrote:Fidget is still cute. Has been generally towny.
No problems with the rest of Akarins readslist, though.
Dang, are you ever gonna explain any of these?In post 464, Rainbow Reads wrote:RAINBOWREADSLIST!!!
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Oh. I see.In post 491, Gloria Cleary wrote:No, I only mean the part about scum being guiltied if they trust each other. Not his theory concerning Pooky/Uncrowned. Uncrowned is very likely town though.
This is how I'm feeling currently. No heavy review, just from catching up. I want to believe I've got both scum below the dash, but beyond that, not so confident.
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Perhaps not. There's plenty of room for shelly, Hectic, or maybe Gloria to be partnered with one of them, I'm thinking. Makes it tricky.In post 509, Akarin wrote:Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.
I do somewhat believe there's at least one scum in there, though. And with no discernable way to tell which one, makes me not want to pair them much.
What in Gloria's ISO would cause negligent scum to believe she is miselimable? Isn't it easier to ignore the content of someone's posts and just go with what the majority say are easy miselims?In post 504, shellyc wrote:rainbow's gloria read is indicative of "scum who thought a town looked misexecutable through their iso and didnt have an awareness of the gamestate"
jake has been active on site. i don't trust ellitell nowadays.
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You lend yourself to getting pocketed when you reciprocate townreads like this. And you're basing your read on Pooky off of his reaction to RR's read on you, as well. I'm very unsure how you're determining Pooky is town solely by his read on you.In post 514, Gloria Cleary wrote:@Fidget, why do you think you’d be sr me here if it weren’t for Death Curse? I know you liked Rockhopper as well, so I really don’t understand your paranoia on me at all. Why wouldn’t negligent scum think I’m miselimable? I’m very obviously town here and it seriously baffles me how you’re not seeing it, yet.
Interestingly enough, that’s why I’m not sold on Pooky!scum because his reaction to RR putting me in the red means he’s tr me. I actually think his shocked reaction probably means he isn’t buddies with RR. So if Jake is town, then there’s someone wrong I’m tr here. I have no idea who yet.
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Are there three of us? You need to pair off three daughters correctly. And assuming you aren't dating one of us, that means you need to call 6/7 of the other townies correctly for this plan to work. Are you not concerned about that?In post 513, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't need to give reads because if I pair my daughters off correctly we win the game.-
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Yes, that makes me even more uncomfortable with the idea.In post 536, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
odds shift down if we assume uncrowned is clearedIn post 473, Fidget wrote:Maybe. Playing the odds, sure, random nulls have a 4/5 chance of being town. There's only a 65% chance that both true nulls will both flip town, though, if I understand math.
odds shift down again if we have consensus townreads
it's a good strategy in a weak plist where nobody towntells (so communal reads are closer to rand) but I'm not really sold on it unless people actually think Jake & rainbow both have a somewhere above rand chance of being town. vague "they feel like those lategame VT flips" isn't really doing it for me, we need to get grittier.
Generally agree with all of Hectic's reads. I suppose I'm a tad paranoid due to next actually playing with scum!Hectic before.In post 544, Necessary Sneasel wrote: could you dissect those hectic & shelly reads for me?
Shelly is playing a lot more subdued than I'm used to. Maybe it's town-indicative actually. Hectic scumread early was sort of odd and forced. Recent posting has been better.
I do hope there's 1 scum in Rainbow/Jake.. If there is, and we don't pair either of those two, we cannot lose.
If there isn't scum at the bottom, then all scum has to do is nod their heads to us not pairing Rainbow/Jake, and they win. Which is what is occuring if they're T-T, I don't think a single player is really against it. Akarin did try to pair them, I suppose.-
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I dunno, it could be a wholesome father-daughter date night type of deal.In post 569, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
Gloria has run away from home and is unlikely to listen to me.In post 529, Fidget wrote:Are there three of us? You need to pair off three daughters correctly. And assuming you aren't dating one of us, that means you need to call 6/7 of the other townies correctly for this plan to work. Are you not concerned about that?
I would never date one of my daughters fidget, that is incest and it pains me you would even think of such a thing.-
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You have an opinion on any other players Jake?In post 550, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
After reconsideration, this question implies that the town is doing an awful job.In post 547, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Could Uncrowned be deepwolfing to get their partner on the bench of trust fallees?
So much flirting between Uncrowned and Sneasel without anything happening. Come on already!
Can confirm this is what I was waiting for Gloria to do. And there it was. Like clockwork.In post 565, Hectic wrote:Gloria is doing her entitled "I can't believe you don't see how obvtown I am" thing, and uh, there's other meta which makes me inclined to think she's town.
Gloria has to be aware everyone reads her that way by now..?
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Ok Gloria I see.
So I'm thinking Uncrowned, Sneasel, Gloria, and Akarin should get out of here first. The only paranoia I harbour there is maybe a slight one on Akarin. Could do well to get that out of my mind, I suppose, but we are also gonna be really pressed for time and if one of these is wrong, extra time would be good.-
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It's probably not exactly Jake-Rainbow, so I have to be concerned with who's the scum with them, but I can't come up with a decent answer as of yet.
There's the extremely worrying scenario they're both town in which case as I mentioned, scum just has to agree that Rainbow/Jake are the scummiest and they win.
I suppose if the second scum is scum with one of the two of them, they wouldn't really defend them, though. Perhaps we're fine.-
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I could do that, but I wanna stay in the game longer if possible.In post 605, Necessary Sneasel wrote:slightly prefer subbing you for akarin here but i do think the game goes in two different directions depending how gloria/akarin flip so meh
Could see doing that yeah.In post 605, Necessary Sneasel wrote:i don't feel like i townread shelly enough to want to trust her, and i'm worried a scumflip from her would accomplish nothing
is it bad i'd rather roll the dice on hectic than shelly atm?
If he's scum with Rainbow or Jake, he's more or less committing to losing because both he and they are going to be around too long. Pooky's only interested in pairing off his daughters. Oh, maybe his dislike of you as a potential suitor is tactical, though.In post 607, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
pooky is scum lolIn post 596, Fidget wrote:It's probably not exactly Jake-Rainbow, so I have to be concerned with who's the scum with them, but I can't come up with a decent answer as of yet.-
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From my point of view, it's better to remove 4 of my strongest town and then, if all goes well, have to choose 1 townie out of a pool of 5 players. If people generally agree that I'm town, I'd be willing to do that. If not, or if there is someone else we would prefer, then I would defer to them instead. But that is my preference.In post 615, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
why & why should we remove us 4 before you?In post 609, Fidget wrote:I could do that, but I wanna stay in the game longer if possible.
I think Hectic has a higher than random chance of being town. Higher than everyone else in my PoE. His recent posting has made me feel he's town even more. I am starting to feel like leaving Pooky/shelly/Jake/Rainbow behind will work.-
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You just don't get it. That's what makes the idea of being with him exciting.In post 612, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sigh Fidgey.
You don't even know who this guy is.
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Not to rush true love, but...In post 650, Equinox wrote:The deadline is Sunday, December 6, 2020, at 7:30 PM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2020-12-06 19:30:00).
Should probably get to the marrying and/or riding off into the sunset soon in case we're horribly wrong on someone.-
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So you meant for the post to be interpreted like this, then:In post 665, shellyc wrote:
hectic is always an easy read in that you always townread himIn post 617, Gloria Cleary wrote:his avatar is making my heart go pitter patter.In post 661, shellyc wrote:idk I feel like pooky has tried to mislaunch me in almost all of his scumgames
also read is undeveloped
FINE you have scumread me in almost all your scumgamesIn post 662, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:there is literally no launching this game shelly-
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Pooky kinda dissuaded us from trusting everyone, I wouldn't put much stock into that. He's +town from before though for sure.
Has Akarin been particularly paranoid of Pooky? To the point where it makes sense to have her survive slightly longer than you?
I doubt scum!shelly was thinking that far there, you might be confirm biased. Also, even if scum!shelly wants to paranoia Pooky, she'll have to bring another townie down too. And Akarin was the one advocating for RR/Jake to leave. Kinda counterintuitive to that plan. I think scum!shelly was more or less just saying things to say things there.-
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If we understand the game correctly, we have to pick out 2 town in {shelly, Pooky, Jake, Rainbow} in order to win. Hm...
@Akarin it's shelly's strange fixation on Hectic early game that seems odd to me. Don't really see why she singled him out like she did. Like part of her reasoning for pushing Hectic was hisreactionto her pushing him. What. If she's town, I just don't know what she saw to make her feel the need to confidently call Hectic scum, and then drop it later.
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In post 459, Hectic wrote:Jake Jake Jake....In post 355, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Pooky, do you want to fall into my arms?
Why'd you say this? Do you read Pooky as town?In post 358, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Pooky if you don't fall into my arms I'm going to drop kick you to the floorIn post 566, Hectic wrote:
Hmm, don't like that you felt the need to reiterate that, while acknowledging that you think it's already been stated. Could you answer the question in 459?In post 547, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think this has already been stated, but I just wanted to throw it out there that UC is probably (though not confirmed) town.
However, I'm pretty sure the next thought I had hasn't been said yet:
Could Uncrowned be deepwolfing to get their partner on the bench of trust fallees?In post 563, Hectic wrote:
Rainbow always plays like this, it's hard to get a read thereIn post 509, Akarin wrote:Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.
She placed Gloria and Fidget lower once they started having doubts on rainbows, but it's hard to tell if it's towny OMGUS or I mean, what purpose does it even serve if it's scum-motivated OMGUS, it's not like they're trying to push the reads. I think I'm like nulltown there
If we care about Hectic interactions, I believe his main suspicion was Jake, whereas he defended Rainbow slightly. Pooky was a townlean.In post 565, Hectic wrote:I actually have the opposite impression of Pooky. I'm leantown on him because of the way he was trying to buddy up to me in the early game. I think in general, town!Pooky finds it easier to show his "soul" and try to convince people he's town just by how much he's enjoying himself, and power of friendship alone in a way. As scum, he resorts to it less, don't know why, maybe because he feels worse about it, or it's less fun for him. But generally he's more aggressive and ends up pushing miselims more than this kind of fluff.
He made a pretty big point about sussing Jake over Rainbow. Rainbow he didn't really care about but at least bothered to mention they always plays like this. Pooky he actually didn't really talk to all that much, which is a little surprising.
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