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Is Mena town?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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We should be looking for groupscum and shirou repping in and pushing speakers to eleven does not seem conducive with schi scum"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why is Schiavetto scum? Are you just running a brutish omgus algorithm all day?
I don't think schi's reasons to sus BB are particularly good but it's very believable he believes them"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Schi was doing well when shirou repped in so shirou should have been less entropy/impact oriented coming in if that's the partner(s)"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Datisi I'm really frustrated cause impl is kind of priced into this vote as any alignment but you don't seem to have a real reason and your like not putting effort into this at all"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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This is a towncaseIn post 3209, Bridgeburners wrote:
No, it’s because schiavetto has been a non-slot lurker since middle of D1, has done nothing, taken no stances, has had no interest in solving the game, avoided and produced for most of D2, and upon finally turning up has a convenient pile of words on why the top wagon is scum but FOR SOME REASON decides to keep voting the other top wagon in spite of thatIn post 3206, Isis wrote:Why is Schiavetto scum? Are you just running a brutish omgus algorithm all day?
I don't think schi's reasons to sus BB are particularly good but it's very believable he believes them
it is a trajectory that screams scum, and a pattern of behaviour that does the same
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Or just a description of what s_s protege's look like
Schiavetto has 250 posts. Ever."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I can develop empathy for how you misread me in some of my games. It would be more enjoyable to play with you if you had some more often.In post 3213, Bridgeburners wrote:
Ahh, your own approach to sorting out slot, I seeIn post 3210, Isis wrote:your like not putting effort into this at all
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It's maybe not the best game to remark on that since I've had a dismissive posture towards your slot at times this game. But it's our of respect for your perceived ability to play scum and how entertaining my thoughts on the angles where you're town make me vulnerable to you making that the only truth cause like. I'm actually really bad at reading people I've engaged with, a lot of the time, it's a weird thing about my playstyle I've mentioned in other games occasionally. My peanut gallery reads are my best reads.
But anyway, telling me I didn't do effort is unfair. I guess it would be equivalent to calling me talented, since it would go that if I have a wrong read in you, I have not set forth any effort, because I'm talented enough that it would result in reading you correctly. But anyway it is kind of grating to hear when I have been considering worlds where usher you towards eLo and beyond it, all game, and have reread several of skitters posts deciding which direction they nudge, and generally have been trying to work for a vote that's better than rand this phase. I think I'd be bothered less being called bad"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: impl"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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It's hard to highlight the part of 3226 I don't like on mobile the arrow part is a really, really paper mache' thought process. Because "post stuff that is generally considered town" is not a behavior, posting is a behavior and other people townreading it is separate. This is a weird perspective slip where he is narrating what a game with a scumslot that got away looks like, but describing "posting a long post and getting townread for it" as a singular action is pretending to analyze schi's behavior while inadvertently using gamestates analysis that doesn't fit (it would only fit like, to describe what a partner is doing).
Its less slippy if impl is positing schi checked to see that the response to the posting was positive, and then chose to stop posting -because it was positive- but that doesn't make a lot of sense and I've never heard of it so id be giving different demerits for forcing the logic on this wagon too hard."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I don't play scum that way at all so maybe there's a projection component in seeing things so differently here actuallyIn post 3237, implosion wrote:
To be clear: what I'm describing here is not literally "post stuff and by sheer power of will have everyone call you town for it". And I don't understand how that isn't obvious? What I'm describing is "do your best to post stuff that is town, be successful, and then (as infinity describes) no longer have reason to make as much effort"Isis wrote:Because "post stuff that is generally considered town" is not a behavior, posting is a behavior and other people townreading it is separate."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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First word "scumread" is "townread", logic inversion typo"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Hm "outed scum" is hyperbole that I think I maybe misapprehend the impact of. Thanks for the feedback. I think you're right that I could play differently"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: PP"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: impl"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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i don't feel that perfect about not mafia
why has no one solved this game for me yet
i townread too many people or things about people i have like all sorts of hedges"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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PP I'm not unvoting and sitting on the unvote so i'm somewhere in the left colum of your alignment chart o.k."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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First thing would be, did infinity soft a clear/quasiclear yesterday? I haven't looked."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I'm situationally good, my mood is off though"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I felt like the way implo wanted to keep the burden of evidence on schiavetto being scum unless she posted stuff according to some kind of standard and the way he didn't bail on the Schiavetto wagon gave things away like that lim wouldn't have accomplished anything for town unless it was red which I doubtIn post 3291, petapan wrote:i'm going to pretend me going "well implosion doesn't look like a shirou partner, buuuuut on individual play he is scummy" was a work of genius and not me ranomly stumbling onto the correct conclusion by not really having a clue"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Whoaaaaaa"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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No massclaim in 8-1thats silly"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I will get out pencil and paper after work maybe to see what the ups and downs are. You can't unmassclaim tho so let me tinker before anyone lolclaims"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Wait this setup has both three scum and two scum games wtff"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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We should play as if two scum are alive since those are the games we have the most risk of losing. Right?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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:surprised pikachu:In post 3317, Something_Smart wrote:Yeah. I think if there's one scum left, it literally has to be me, so I can't win because as soon as I make it to F3 with no scumflips I get insta-exed."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I think with some montyhallish logic the middle one is more likely cause we flipped a goon"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Those compound, I think. but I'm not positive"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Why do you tr me qb"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I feel ignord"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: bb"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: bb"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Typo, not for emphasis"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Idk who to vote"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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50% mechanically cleared. It should feel less personalIn post 3466, Bridgeburners wrote:what is the argument against limping NM today
does anyone have one?
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PP has been pretty towny this phase I feel like maybe I want to gamble on town!PP"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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No there were some patches during D2 you weren't that towny
doesn't mean you're not town"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I agree"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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so many times in life i have heard birds outside and realized I'm up too lateIn post 3539, Datisi wrote:i think i hear birds outside that's lovely i'm gonna go pass out
this is so relatable"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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atp in the game I kind of want to explore BB teams or Datisi teams
They are worlds that make the most sense to me."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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this is maybe weird to say but I think maybe this game has less obvtown than an "average game" and therefore we are probably in the setup that still has two scum left (!?!)"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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dreamposts are OP"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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petapan are you scum?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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petapan why would you ever disbelieve your dreamreads if you were town?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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wdym?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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why is there a wagon on secyd, if secyd is scummy shouldn't we BoP kill Datisi?
Or do people think Datisi is independently towny?
like if sechyd is scum, Datisi's only contribution to the game has been hard defending scum for reasons I don't actually fully follow.
If Sechyd is town, ok, Datisi has one contribution to the game. Could still flip scum.
You only want to pick sechyd if sechyd is scum and datisi is town
which is like, the kind of thing you'd do if maybe sechydr was pocketing datisi but sechyd kinda hasn't?
I don't get it"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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maybe my eyes glazed over too much during spicy sechyd scumcasings
i can't remember that much in terms of cash-this-check scumminess about them.
gypyx being gone is a bit bad, gypyx being here earlygame cancels that out"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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In a different game from this one? None of Pooky's scumreads have flipped groupscum yet.In post 3614, PenguinPower wrote:
deadsheeping has been profitable.In post 3612, Isis wrote:why is there a wagon on secyd,"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Philosophically I believe SKs are hunted very differently from groupscum and identifying a serial killer functions as an extremely weak indicator of having a particularly insightful view of the game. It is easily outweighed by the only other data point, not sussing the only flipped groupscum.
You're conflating "things are going well" with" "what makes things go well""Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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deadsheeping is 1/1 at killing serial killers and this game is confirmed not to have any serial killers."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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you are the one adding constraints and complexity"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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it's probably town indicative for you to say this
which makes me frustrated
pedit: was that a lolhammer?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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refusal to claim at e-Not-Mafia hopefully indicates this was scum"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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VOTE: secret hydra"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Schiavetto, Datisi, petapan, N_M
Naturally I want to claim as late in the order as allowable by my peers."Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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petapan do you feel a little crestfallen"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Vengeful. Peta, now"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Just wanted to see what would happen. I was pretty sure it doesn't do anything but I don't feel it hurts. I'm the jailkeep"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Schiavetto Schiavetto SS petapan. Yes I am possibly bad at playing power roles I didn't want one ok"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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I submitted PP before changing it because I didn't think I'd block again this game and it'd just put us on evens. So I went for roleblocking"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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This setup has a strongman, what?"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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