Open 827: Dead Silence III - Game Over!!

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VOTE: Cephrir

I don't think he's a mason

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Should we policy the mason bounty hunter Dwlee actually? I heard from a reliable source that they demolish houses and it brings the masons in like moths to a flame, they can't resist the sweet temptation of stone laying.

VOTE: Dwlee

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That reaction feels way too over the top from Cephrir? I don't think he should be so mad, probably scum

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Please don't prod at a player who is clearly under a lot of distress, Gamma Emerald

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I'll let you off just this once however, given you are my fellow mason in arms

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I can confirm I've seen Dwlee "misplace" a lot of stones before

Anyway I think I know all the masons already, which would of course be due to me being one myself

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it's fine if folks want to look for masons on their own just please don't post your theories

Do you think players are likely to do this if you hadn't said anything?

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In my experience, Ydrasse has been scum in all of my games so I'd believe it

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I want flashing neon signs

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I signed up to be a mason and I'm very excited to get that opportunity

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Cephrir is obvscum

I would prefer not to

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Get good

I would prefer not to

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Enchant is town for his enthusiasm about the setup and frustration when he was shot down, he seems invested. Morning Tweet also seems town for the way she's trying to lead with wagons and generate more info.

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VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

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Anyone up for policying Dwlee? I'm always down for it if anyone else is down, just let me know

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I just found this note on my car:

"You guys suck! You can never pull together as one and revenge us

-Sincerely,

Not_Mafia,

Mafia Goon

, Eliminated Phase 1"

Are you in this game and why can't I remember anything you're posted? Talk in the PT if you feel like lurking here please

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VOTE: Dwlee

Excellent. We should really be policying scum more often, I don't understand why people don't do that more often in games

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Show me the coords

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Show me the coords

i hope this clears things up

Why didn't you just post these before...

I'll send Dwlee and DGB pms to see if we can work something out

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What a ridiculous overreaction, please tell me people don't believe that

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall







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-Pooky

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DGB has the capacity to recognise humour, they're not dumb as bricks, so they must be scum

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You're a scummy bit

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And you're not my mason either

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Actually unbelievable you think DGB's reaction is real there

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They don't know if I'm or anyone I talk to is actually a mason or not though, I'm obfuscating and making it harder for them to determine that

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DGB's reaction is illogical on so many levels that I'm actually astounded others don't see it the same way

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For DGB to fail to recognise the WIFOM/joke of my statement, they would need to think I am scum genuinely claiming I'm a mason with them, and hoping this is a good play for me and that they'd go along with it.

They're calling me scum because they think me claiming mason with them is an actual viable strategy for me to make as scum. There is no way they actually believe that.

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They're playing 9D chess clearly

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Please explain what the "gambit" is there, what's my goal?

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DGB can't come up with a reason for what the "gambit" is, if they can't think of a reason why scum would do it over it simply being WIFOM/a joke, their thought process just isn't genuine. They're scum who latched onto the first thing they could given they're getting heavily wagoned

Pedit: hmm

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And I am definitely curious to hear why DGB thinks Thor is serious cause it plays unseriously/jokey all the time!

Show an example please?

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Almost as if it's a counterwagon to the scum wagon

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Okay Ydrasse

I got tired of opening up the PT every time after I closed it so it's easier to discuss with you here

What kind of bricks do you like to lay?

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Spoiler: For Ydrasse

But you're saying you're a farm animal? That's kinda weird honestly but your secret is safe with me

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Spoiler: Edrosse

Yeah, massacres are really fun, it's normally how I wind down in the evening. I opt for the no scope snipers though while my teammate rushes in and flails around on the ground

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You viciously ignored my question, Morning Tweet

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VOTE: DrippingGoofBall

Not sure why Almost50 took the shots there over DGB if they're from mafia but I'm not gonna think too hard about it because I still can't believe that reaction from DGB is ever genuine









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-Pooky

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We need to establish a timeframe for our shots so that the mod won't be online at the time, and none of us would be when he is This guarantees anyone who tries to check for "who's online at the time of the shot" can't link it to us.

Ohhh wow

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Thor, can you invite me in Masonry as well?

Check your PMs, I've sent you an offer you can't refuse

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Pretty sure we're still wining despite the shots, like 2 scum for 4 town is a pretty decent deal

The best way to protect the final mason is if we speedrun this with flashwagons out of nowhere when the person is offline

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VOTE: Galron

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Also I'm obvtown Morning Tweet and you've missed the light

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AYYYY

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VOTE: Arc

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So we're at 5VTs + 1 Mason vs 3 scum right?

Yep

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I don't think DrippingGoofball is town

Not reading the setup does not make you town

Their reaction to me still doesn't make sense if they didn't read the setup

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Should probably slow down since scum win with a correct mason shot now if we vote out vt

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VOTE: DGB

we should talk more but 1 vote feels safe, I still feel very good about this

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Cephrir multiaccounting slip?

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I'd vote Gamma too

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Oh yeah, agree on Enchant since A50 was scum frustrating him

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A50 made Enchant obvtown if ppl disagree then prolly say so cause ive had him obvtown all game fo rthat

I don't even know how.

Because all of that frustration would be faked if you and A50 were partners

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VOTE: Gamma

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Gamma/Cephrir/Ydrasse

That's a solve, write it in stone

Sub Ydrasse out for DGB and maybe

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Isn't N_M also on Gamma

why are you voting N_M, DGB

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Would N_M have shot by now is the question

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AHHHHH ALL IN

VOTE: NotMafia

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We're marathoning this and bringing this back today

Dead Silence 4 tomorrow

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I got impulsive, please don't

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Also why do you think it's flipping town

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I got paranoid he was gonna take the shot after being put on E-1

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alright seriously don't wagon me, I'm stupid but I'm not scum

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VOTE: Gamma

Eh sorry if I threw

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I'm too hyperactive right now and regretted the hammer almost instantly after

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Cephrir + Gamma

Ceph going for the win?

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Enchant, help

You actually know how to read me

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VOTE GAMMA WHILE HE'S OFFLINE

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I need to take a break

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UNVOTE: Gamma

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Doesn't look like there's an instant shot which means scum aren't sure of the last one

Let's actually take our time

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Just

think about it

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I have a feeling Ceph is scum and he knows what he's doing here by forcing this issue

I'll follow you Enchant

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VOTE: Cephrir

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UNVOTE:

Fine...

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Mhm

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You might as well take the shot now

I dare you

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It's Ceph for the way he's playing this for reasons I can't entirely elaborate

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Problem for him is that he can't tell whether what I'm saying is serious or feigned

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I thought we were gonna lose and scum knew who the last mason was

Then you posted and the game wasn't over

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Ceph/Gamma/DGB

Maybe Ydrasse has fooled me and probably subs in for Gamma

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VOTE: Ydrasse

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UNVOTE: Ydrasse

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Can we vote Ceph?

I'm sorry if that was wrong Ydrasse, I felt so wrong typing it in

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Oh yeah Ceph was the one who asked us to back off

AHHHHHH

Maybe they're both town and it's something like DGB/Gamma + ??? No that doesn't work because MT/Enchant are town

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I think they're both scum with DGB

VOTE: DGB

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*DGB/Gamma/Ceph

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Ceph, I actually won the javelin throw, people don't usually see it but yeah, kinda proud of that

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Uh

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You too

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You too

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fwiw thor i still think you're funny <3

<3 you're fun too

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We are all awesome on this blessed day

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lol

VOTE: Ceph

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I shouldn't have to explain why Ceph asking us to back down from Ydrasse is obviously her partner, right?

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That's way too obvious to actually do with a partner

VOTE: DGB

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VOTE: Ceph

Eliminate us any order and this wins

I'm confident on both MT and Enchant

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Also look back at DGB and I's interactions if you think I'm scum

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Bat swoops in

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Nah last scum is Ceph for the win

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Ydrasse

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Speed voting was the point to prevent shots

Ceph made us back down from voting Ydrasse in a not exactly subtle way

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i think this is a mistake now :/

enchant?

UNVOTE:

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It's not hard to see that my interactions with DGB are never S/S

For you to believe we're both scum, DGB would have to be actively self-saboting themselves while trying to bus me by reacting like that

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Yee

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Completely fine with that

If Enchant/MT is scum I don't mind losing there at all but I really don't think that's the case

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Enchant's frustration to A50 and then confidence handling this flashwagon business feels way out of his scumrange

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I wish lol

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I was trying to crumb mason a lot when stuff went down yesterday btw, hoping scum took the bait and I'm responsible for Ydrasse dying

It was all of the "Ceph knows what he's doing" and "he's trying to force the issue" which probably made them shoot me... I'm hoping

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Yeah, I don't really regret hammering Not_Mafia, he had to go at some point

pedit how long have you been lurking to combat me lol

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What better other way to waste time away at work

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Morning Tweet’s kinda just been pushing things forward all game with confidence I think would be very hard to consistently fake as scum. She felt very natural catching up when she came back too, an example being her reaction to Ydrasse being scum

Also I've thought she was a mason most of this game with how she was playing with stuff like “stay the course” and leading the wagons, was that an intentional choice morning? It would be a bold way to play as scum though, similar to how Enchant was deciding who to flashwagon

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There’s not like any clearing interactions I can see but the best way to put it is that she’s spamming towny thoughts too much, would be completely out of order as scum, probably a 3 week ban at least

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Show me the coords

i hope this clears things up

anyway

bad wagonnnnn booooooooooooooooo

if DGB gets to eight votes i will give a deeply detailed case as to why it is scum. Maybe

Scum can interpret Thor's claims like they mean something at their own peril but it's not inherently helpful to them, is it? I'd be interested in hearing why it's +scum to like 3 ppl

And I am definitely curious to hear why DGB thinks Thor is serious cause it plays unseriously/jokey all the time!

Aaron why arent you voting DGB it virtually scumclaimed earlier

They're scum with DGB

Oh sorry thor i missed that

And I am definitely curious to hear why DGB thinks Thor is serious cause it plays unseriously/jokey all the time!

Show an example please?

Like... every game i've seen DGB in it's got a jokey less than serious playstyle?

I'm not saying it doesn't play the game but it does crack jokes (including ones about the game itself) from time to tim which is kinda my point

My last one was radio buzz where I was the mod. I'll skim that to see if memory serves right

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"why do you tr Galron"

His giddiness jumps right off the page, maybe he has a big fat PR

this seems fairly relevant if we're gonna talk about jokes that could be anti-town on the surface

I will concede DGB doesnt joke *as much* as i thought i remembered. But still, its reaction here:

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

What the hell is that????

You are not my mason.

VOTE: Thor

100% Thor is scum, I am not moving my vote.

makes like 0 sense. and we know it's a serious reaction confirmed by its follow-up posts, sooo

In any case if you're not voting DGB, WHY

If you're unvoting DGB you better vote someone else

I also do not know why DGB is bein unvoted but I'll look later

We're unvoting DGB because it didnt read the setup!?! Come on now!!

Gamma why would pav tell a partner to make a shot in the main thread

Oh yeah, these interactions with DGB are probably the best ones

Especially the last post trying to shoot down their setup ignorance being towny when Dwlee and others had just found it genuine and started unvoting them

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For DGB to fail to recognise the WIFOM/joke of my statement, they would need to think I am scum genuinely claiming I'm a mason with them, and hoping this is a good play for me and that they'd go along with it.

They're calling me scum because they think me claiming mason with them is an actual viable strategy for me to make as scum. There is no way they actually believe that.

It makes so little sense I'm not sure if I can see it as a scum move.

Meanwhile, this is Ceph's reaction to me explaining why DBG is scum

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im sad i ended up relenting on DGB but i switched to pav anyway so lol

I was starting to get doubts, i didnt think it was mason but i was figuring VT and at the time i wasnt seeing the light on thor

Yeah I shouldn't have stopped hard pushing it either, I was so confident they were scum after the way they reacted, idk why I let my confidence levels fall

It's fine, I was distracted by Ceph so it doesn't matter

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VOTE: DrippingGoofBall
*Votes counterwagon*










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-Pooky

dwlee legit is scum here

dwlee legit is scum here

Have you tried

Daykill: Mafia Dwlee

yet?

I thought this might be mason theatre when I saw it lol

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He keeps fruit nuts in there

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She's notorious for flailing as both alignments, it's impossible to tell

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Policy nullread is safe

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ok yeah I don't mind taking the loss here

I have no idea how I'm supposed to convince you Morning, but I'd point to the instant vote going against how Enchant was playing for the entirety of the previous day and rest of the game, where he wanted to take things slow and calm, and wanted to be sure of decisions

Instantly voting me for the game ending decision is him taking the expected (and very well deserved tbh) win since he expected you to follow. There's no reason for him to spend more time faking stuff

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and sorry Ceph, I suck

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Oh look at this, recently ended

This is way beyond what I thought was in Enchant's scumrange, it was foreshadowed lol

I would recommend reading his ISO there Morning

VOTE: Enchant

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Enchant taking the shot on Ydrasse is actually wild and the only thing I can think of there is the guy loves bussing and might've been afraid of whether we'd follow if he picked town in (Morning, Gamma, Thor).

Busy for a while but I'll be online later

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The best piece of evidence I can give is that I never treat my scum partner like this, and DGB never reacts like this if we're partners

I don't think I've ever interacted with a scum partner like this ever. It's very unnecessary for DGB and I as scum to both hard push each other in this manner when the most vital thing at that stage would be looking for masons and getting info from wagons on potential masons or VTs

Also, the reason why DGB's reaction is so bad is because they're either (1) trying to counterwagon someone since they were the main wagon
or (2) actually genuinely confused about the setup and thinks what I did was me as scum scumclaiming
(1) can't be the case because they're not gonna try to counterwagon a scum buddy,
and (2) can't be the case because scum have a PT and DGB would never be confused about what I did in the first place, since there would be communication

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

What the hell is that????

You are not my mason.

VOTE: Thor

100% Thor is scum, I am not moving my vote.

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

thor's motives are beyond mortal understanding

HE IS NOT MY MASON AND HE NEEDS TO DIE

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

thor's motives are beyond mortal understanding

Show me the coords

i hope this clears things up

Why didn't you just post these before...

I'll send Dwlee and DGB pms to see if we can work something out

JUMP OFF A SPEEDBUMP, SCUM

Show me the coords

i hope this clears things up

Why didn't you just post these before...

I'll send Dwlee and DGB pms to see if we can work something out

DIE SCUM DIE

What a ridiculous overreaction, please tell me people don't believe that

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall







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-Pooky

DGB has the capacity to recognise humour, they're not dumb as bricks, so they must be scum

Actually unbelievable you think DGB's reaction is real there

They don't know if I'm or anyone I talk to is actually a mason or not though, I'm obfuscating and making it harder for them to determine that

DGB's reaction is illogical on so many levels that I'm actually astounded others don't see it the same way

There's "randomly claiming mason" and "randomly claiming mason with a player being wagoned while spouting off that THAT PLAYER ISN'T RESPONDING ON THE MASON PT."

For DGB to fail to recognise the WIFOM/joke of my statement, they would need to think I am scum genuinely claiming I'm a mason with them, and hoping this is a good play for me and that they'd go along with it.

They're calling me scum because they think me claiming mason with them is an actual viable strategy for me to make as scum. There is no way they actually believe that.

Where did Thor claim mason with everyone and it's a joke I missed?

I have never played with Thor before, the shading and the VOTE smelled of scum gambit.

Please explain what the "gambit" is there, what's my goal?

Please explain what the "gambit" is there, what's my goal?

You tell me it's your dumb gambit

Yes I did miss 191. It sounds more like a scum PT joke.

Never mind then I guess I misinterpreted.

DGB can't come up with a reason for what the "gambit" is, if they can't think of a reason why scum would do it over it simply being WIFOM/a joke, their thought process just isn't genuine. They're scum who latched onto the first thing they could given they're getting heavily wagoned

Pedit: hmm

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It's actually ridiculous Enchant didn't just flashwagon town over Ydrasse, that still boggles my mind lol

The guy goes for style points

I honestly don't blame you one bit if you get this one wrong Morning, I accept my fate. I just hope for mercy from the dead PT since this is on Enchant playing a terrific scumgame, not me playing a terrible towngame... right?

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Well played

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Good game! I'll be interested in seeing how I was caught.

It'll all be revealed in the essays we laid out in the scum PT

Pavowski especially went kinda wild with the research, he found player's Facebook profiles to see if they were mason-like