quick strange iso since i just woke up
this is less of a "case" and more of just me analyzing the posts so i might change my mind on voting there by the end of this (and i reserve the right to avoid confbias), consider this post being made chronologically beginning to end
pretty null opening, nothing too much to see here. is not placing down a vote in the very first post scum-indicative? feel like I've seen scum do it more often but i might be wrong
In post 183, StrangeMatter wrote:
I can't tell if you're being serious about this when we've got a lot of days left, and we win if we vote out scum.
Also hello I've been disconnected with this game and I'm going to try to catch up.
accusing pooky of being serious is like, high crimes and misdemeanors. pooky is never "serious".
(but yeah this post is sliiightly +town)
In post 185, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 84, Clemency wrote:counterpoint: scum will usually attempt to seem townish in order to not be voted out
therefore, enchant is exhibiting scum behaviour by being townish
do the right thing people
Another thing I don't know if it is serious with all the dumb things going on at that time. It kind of reads like a joke but I'm not at all sure. I get why scum would try to seem townish especially in this type of game where eliminating only one of the scum wins the game, but I also don't get why anyone on Town would also want to be voted out and lose that day 1 condition.
is pure obliviousness scummy?
.....is it? like genuine question because if it is then strange is lockscum but if it's more indicative of being town that might be strong points in their favor
In post 224, StrangeMatter wrote:Going to put my 10 cents into this but I really don't think its a good idea to put people at L-1 (Isn't it called E-1 though?), especially since pressure should never be based off only votes, rather if you have a question to ask, you should ask it. Although, I don't think I can elaborate any more than that without snapping a rule.
pressure should be based on votes though. like votes are literally our main tool to affect the game (at least, in this phase).
In post 236, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 228, cowsloveSushirolls wrote: In post 224, StrangeMatter wrote:Going to put my 10 cents into this but I really don't think its a good idea to put people at L-1 (Isn't it called E-1 though?),
especially since pressure should never be based off only votes, rather if you have a question to ask, you should ask it.
does this mean that you aren't actually suspecting T3 right now? who are your current suspects?
Well first that was an RVS vote and I never actually went off it. Secondly, I don't feel like I have any good suspects. I'm at the point of this game where I have no clue what's serious or not, and whether I should or shouldn't be posting about something or making questions for it. Seriously, I thought the CLSR wagon was a little odd then I looked at the posts and asked myself, is this a joke? I think I'm going a little crazy asking myself this question too much.
However, I don't like the post that said its fine to put people at L-1/L-2, which to me seems a little scum motivated.
this is where strange's posts start to look "slippery." the "first, that was an rvs vote, second, i don't have any idea what's going on and can't tell memes from the truth"
like sure it was fine at the beginning because they weren't caught up but at this point this goes beyond sheer obliviousness to straight up just actively fluffing; there is approximately 0 game advancing content in the iso up to and including here, and iirc there isn't any after. this isn't like... incredibly obviously scummy either, but i do feel like it's the kind of thing that you don't expect to see in town, whose main goal on d1 is to sort the game as clearly as possible.
In post 237, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 200, numberQ wrote:Alright let me catch up
In post 97, schadd_ wrote:well i can tell you i chose a person to vote based on their posting
There's one point of charlemagne's
#100 I particularly agree with, that we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/1.
I want to see reactions from people under pressure, and if scum do bumrush a wagon like that near the end, that seems like some prime explode bait to me. I think if it really is just a meme wagon with no substance or scrutiny, sure, avoid that. But the memery has slowed down and there's a lot of actual scumhunting going on, so I'm all for the wagoning.
Can you explain why we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/L-1?
did you
read the post?
In post 270, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 242, Pavowski wrote: In post 237, StrangeMatter wrote: In post 200, numberQ wrote:Alright let me catch up
In post 97, schadd_ wrote:well i can tell you i chose a person to vote based on their posting
There's one point of charlemagne's
#100 I particularly agree with, that we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/1.
I want to see reactions from people under pressure, and
if scum do bumrush a wagon like that near the end, that seems like some prime explode bait to me.
I think if it really is just a meme wagon with no substance or scrutiny, sure, avoid that. But the memery has slowed down and there's a lot of actual scumhunting going on, so I'm all for the wagoning.
Can you explain why we shouldn't be afraid of L-2/L-1?
Not to butt in on a conversation that doesn't involve me, but I think his post there kinda answers it.
Town can't lose in the first phase here, but scum can, and anybody jumping on an e-1 vote to hammer somebody -- especially at this point -- is gonna get some sideways glances in future rounds
Of course we can't lose today, but considering several times in other games we ended up being fine with making mistakes when the decision we make mattered, much like right now does. Yes we can make mistakes but I don't feel like we should still minimize them as much as possible.
these are words
they don't say anything though
we shouldn't minimize our mistakes? like... what? of course we should minimize the mistakes we make because we have a chance to win the game on day 1. yes we are FINE with making mistakes but it's still strongly preferable to not make that mistake and simply get scum d1? no?