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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:20 am

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It's mostly for me, so i will not forget things.

Spoiler:
Powerroles depends on rolls.
3/6 inv
2/6 prevent
1/6 killing

Investigative:
Innocent Child: Confirmed townie. Reveals from start of game.
Role Oracle. Every night can choose someone. If dying, role of last targeted person will be revealed (without alignment).
Role Cop. Every night can target person and reveal their role (without alignment).
Tracker. Every night can target person and see who he/she visit this night.
Parity Cop. Every night can target person. If last checked have different alignment than previous target (mafia/town) will get "Doesn't match", otherwise "Match".
Cop with N0. On start of the game can choose person and learn if this person is member of mafia, on other nights can also do that.

Prevent:
Bodyguard. Every night can choose person, if this person was attacked, will take bullet instead.
Doctor. Every night can choose person and protect from one kill.
Roleblocker. Every night can choose person and block their night actions.
Jailkeeper. Every night can choose person and protect from all kill attempts, but will also roleblock.

Killing:
Vigilante. At night can try to kill. Can have 1-2 or infinity bullets.

Mafia:
Watcher. Every night can choose person and learn all visitors of said target.

Tells:
Vigilante always will shot at first opportunity. Should probably do something with that, but helpful for deducing setup.
Statistically, every role from every group exist, but we can lack killing roles in favor of others.
Child will reveal at start. If we have child, other PR is more powerful.
Mafia will always roll 2 roles or less. It's impossible to have more than 3 town PR.
3 kills =
clusterfuck
, we have two vigs and probably Innocent Child/BodyGuard. It's blatant if IC though.
Impossible to have more than 1 investigative. Protective and Killing is possible.
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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:26 am

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In post 8, redtea wrote:to be honest I spent at least an hour on MU trying to figure out how the d6 setup is generated and I still don't get it. The wording just doesn't connect the dots for me
Mod will roll d6. Depending on roll, role will level up.

For example, if two of these rolls are 1, then we have Role Oracle. If another dice will roll as 1-3, then it will level up to Tracker. And so on.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:31 am

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Probably explained subtle.

Mod will roll d6 six times.

Assume result are 1 4 2 4 6 6

1-3 results are investigative roles. 1 was rolled once and 2 also was rolled once, so it gives us two rolls on investigative and thus results in Role Oracle.
4 twice means two rolls on preventive, thus we have Doctor.
6 twice means two rolls on Killing, thus we have 2-Shot Vigilante.

That's it.
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Post Post #12 (isolation #3) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:15 am

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In post 11, redtea wrote:Wait wouldn't the 1 and 2 result in a role cop?

The rest checks out though, I never would've guessed that that's how it worked.
There will be role cop (Town Alignment) if Mod will roll 1-3 results three times.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:23 am

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In post 13, numberQ wrote:I have analyzed this setup extensively and based on tells from the mod I can conclusively confirm the following:

We do not have an Innocent Child.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
No shit sherlock.
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Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:24 am

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Huh... Is Oracle works like that?
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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:56 am

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Yeah, i mistaken with Mystic.

Oracle is OP, Role Oracle is kind of meeeh.

Can Role Oracle ask question if someone wields role? For example, are question "numberQ is bodyguard?" are valid?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #7) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:11 am

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In post 39, T3 wrote:
I think I worded that badly.
Basically, the power of the Role Oracle is that when the Role Oracle dies, it reveals the role (not the alignment) of the last player it targeted to everyone in the game. I'm going to post role PM's soon.
Bruh.
So i was right... Well.

I think it's actually better.
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Post Post #42 (isolation #8) » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:16 am

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In post 41, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Wacky stuff. Can we get N_M to E-1 before he posts?
We already tried to do that in other game, he seems to reading before posting and just voted "moms" in previous time.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #9) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:32 am

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VOTE: Gamma
Now you can.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #10) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:33 am

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Too late.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #114 (isolation #11) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:00 pm

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In post 110, Not_Mafia wrote:I can't believe this
Quickhammer team?
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Post Post #120 (isolation #12) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:11 pm

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In post 116, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 114, Enchant wrote:
In post 110, Not_Mafia wrote:I can't believe this
Quickhammer team?
Let's go
VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #122 (isolation #13) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:12 pm

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UNVOTE:

Fine, fine.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:16 pm

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In post 125, MegAzumarill wrote:You can take two if you give why you want Gamma to die immediately.
Life is pain. But it seems too early for quickhammers.

NM, maybe a little after.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #15) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:22 pm

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In post 128, Roden wrote:Also Enchant wtf are you doing
I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.
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Post Post #133 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 04, 2021 12:29 pm

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In post 132, Roden wrote:
In post 130, Enchant wrote:
In post 128, Roden wrote:Also Enchant wtf are you doing
I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.
Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?
Why not?

Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.

Why i am not sleeping?

Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #17) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:10 am

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In post 180, numberQ wrote:Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.
Why i am not in town list?
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Post Post #204 (isolation #18) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:45 am

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I am suddenly regret not quickhammering before. Probably i stop care about it next time.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #19) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:48 am

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I am not AI.

Beep. Boop.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #20) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:59 am

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In post 207, Almost50 wrote:What's an AI?
LIFE IMMITATION.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #21) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:29 pm

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If i was openwolf, i would just let NM hammer and face same problems as today.

So i am... Less that openwolf. Openpuppy?

I know truth, it's anime conspiration against me, aimed to taint this game and turn everyone in weebs. So we shall decapitate both Kyouko and Gamma to stop them!
They also probably scum.
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Post Post #233 (isolation #22) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:40 pm

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In post 219, Roden wrote:That's E-2/E-NM btw.

What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?
All scum voting me, 100%

Atleast i don't see phrase "WELL NUMBERQ IS PROB SCUM AND WAGONED LET'S WAGON ENCHANT INSTEAD BECAUSE OPENWULF"

Blatant counter wagon, so mafia are Kyouko+Gamma+NumberQ.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #23) » Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:43 pm

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Also i don't mind getting WAGONED, but getting wagoned by mafia which i had opportunity to throw to death making me furious.

Fuck basic decency.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #24) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 6:12 pm

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In post 250, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 246, redtea wrote:uh legit though, I counted and isn't gamma supposed to be dead?

@mod can you recount the votes again? Pretty sure gamma was hammered
If this is the case 100% kill off enchant and redtea at first opportunity
"I am deserved to be quickhammered"
@ Gamma


You still do.
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Post Post #257 (isolation #25) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 7:38 pm

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In post 255, redtea wrote:You do too tbh
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Post Post #259 (isolation #26) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:39 pm

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In post 258, Egix96 wrote:
In post 236, numberQ wrote:
In post 231, Egix96 wrote:
In post 213, Not_Mafia wrote:Someone put Q on E-1 please
Eh, I feel like his reaction to being wagoned was slightly more towny than not. I'm curious as to why he leans scum on me though, and also Roden implicitly agreeing.
My read on you was pretty much entirely based on your 166. I'm not seeing the throughline of logic or emotion for you to land on a vote for redtea or TRs for Roden/Meg. Which to me smells like scum trying to fake reads.

More recently, I don't like 235. Gamma ultimately
wasn't
yeeted, which I think is much more telling than
almost
getting yeeted. (not you, Almost :P )

Egix, do you have any opinions on Enchant getting pissed off by his wagon? I have thoughts but I'd like to hear yours first.
Yes, I am totally going to post exactly how I'm feeling at every step /s. This is why reading people based on "progression" is often flawed.

Regarding Enchant, I really don't mean to sound insensitive by saying this, but I don't feel like he's actually that peed off? I mean, otherwise he wouldn't be joking about anime/weebs, and what else would he expect his scumreads to do apart from pushing back against him?

I am not joking, that's pure truth.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #27) » Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:24 pm

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In post 260, redtea wrote:So what?
You think scum jebaited you into quasi-hammering so that they could dogpile you?
Perhaps. Truly masterminds.
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Post Post #265 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 4:30 am

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Let's try actually one tactic from wiki. Like what we lose?

Example:
If i am Role Oracle/Role Cop, i targeted Egix96 last night and found them as Vanilla.
If i am Parity Cop, i targeted Galron last night.
If i am N0 Cop, then ssbm_Kyouko is Innocent, as well as Galron.

If am other role (Roleblocker/Doctor/Jailkeeper/Bodyguard/Tracker) i used my ability on Gamma Emerald last night, but anything important didn't happen.
If i am Vanilla, disregard that.



If everyone fill this, then PR can leave "crumbs" without being painly obvious? Everyone should make effort to actually make it belivable though.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:38 am

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Then "check" person who you actually townread. Considering Cops need to check actual nullreads, it makes sense.

Giving "Guilty" results is a kind of stupid, because you probably should speak up anyway... Or get them killed otherwise.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:39 am

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Basically just faking it, before real invest claims Guilty result, after that we consider our work done.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:31 am

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We have two days. Ding ding.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:54 pm

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I am VT, have fun.

Still consider my idea, because i don't really see how it out PRs (it's very specific, and i think CRUMBS more likely to out PR actually). Because i am town and dying anyway, i suggest you to do in this order (Completly random):
1. mozamis
2. Not_Mafia
3. Galron
4. PenguinPower
5. numberQ
6. redtea
7. MegAzumarill
8. ssbm_Kyouko
9. Almost50
10. Egix96
11. Gamma Emerald
12. Roden

So mafia doesh't just assume someone is PR for "posting too fast" or "posting too late" and other.
If this idea is "Chaotic".
Well. Really, do you find SO HARD to make one belivable fake post or what? Complete disgrace.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:56 pm

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Don't send invest PRs on scummy players, send them on null.
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Post Post #308 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:59 pm

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Or even better, don't even tell what they should do, lel.

Also, nah, i have no idea. Still misplayed when i didn't let hammer Gamma i think.
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Post Post #310 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:05 pm

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In post 309, numberQ wrote:Are you scumreading Gamma?
Gamma chances being mafia higher than my chances being mafia.

In theory i should have hammered to avoid this situation at first place (even if town i atleast tried, if scum i am not going on chupping block). Considering love of mafia to bus each other on day1 and then changing votes, i think Gamma could be maf distancing, but not sure here, whatever.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:05 pm

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Oh sorry. LET Gamma be hammered.
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Post Post #317 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:06 pm

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In post 316, redtea wrote:
In post 310, Enchant wrote:
In post 309, numberQ wrote:Are you scumreading Gamma?
Gamma chances being mafia higher than my chances being mafia.

In theory i should have hammered to avoid this situation at first place (even if town i atleast tried, if scum i am not going on chupping block). Considering love of mafia to bus each other on day1 and then changing votes, i think Gamma could be maf distancing, but not sure here, whatever.
Sure but the gamma lim came way too close imo for it to be a bus
it's not like gamma was a lost cause
I don't think mafia expect from me to help NM with quickhammer.

3-4 votes not so dangerous imo.
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Post Post #319 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:24 pm

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Oh well.

MATH.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:40 pm

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Well, gonna be honest, i don't consider even 5 votes serious, as well as anything happened at day 1 at all.

I see mafia distancing on Day 1 so often (yes even like that), i don't consider this clear. I more surprised how fast Gamma wagon dismantled after that danger.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:34 pm

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I have memory of goldfish.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:38 pm

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I didn't forgot Gamma was in NM hammer range though, i forgot how much players are here.

So i believed 4 is E-2. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Post Post #331 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:40 pm

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Thankfully i die anyway, so not big loss.
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Post Post #333 (isolation #43) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:49 pm

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In post 332, Roden wrote:Why are you refusing to pursue your scum reads and just settling with getting elim'd?
Because you will forget all what i say anyway. What sense in listening me?
I would't listen to me for example.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #44) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:56 pm

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In post 334, redtea wrote:well there's the scum claim
Yeah thanks.
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Post Post #338 (isolation #45) » Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:59 pm

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VOTE: Enchant

Not giving you this privelegy.
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Post Post #343 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:11 am

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I was Mafia Watcher.

Pretty sucking role.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:34 am

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In post 344, Gamma Emerald wrote:If serious, that’s very lol
Scum watcher can check a buddy to keep an eye out for possible guilties, it’s not a crap role at all
What for? Person with guilty result will speak immediatly.
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Post Post #347 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:39 am

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In post 346, redtea wrote:is a pr finding role sucky??
Tracker more useful imo, watcher is about outquessing, Tracker actually confirms ppl as "PR" or "Not PR".
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Post Post #351 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:47 am

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Maaaaaaaaakes senseeeeeee.

Fair.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #50) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:50 am

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Dumb idea, don't use it.

... Unless you really want though.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #51) » Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:51 am

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Like maybe could be used, but not by everyone.

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