open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[Kaiji]

ok maybe andante is too clueless to be scum rofl


at the very least andante and SS cant be scum together here.,.


and that actually points towards andante not being scum

[Kaiji]

nsg would 1000% shoot n1 like every other vigilante andy that plays this game

theres maybe like 3 people who would holster and 2 of them are in this game

[Kaiji]

and i replaced in after n1

[Kaiji]

i mean thats what discussion is for, to cover for the blind spots.

[Kaiji]

@skitter what do you think of the possibility of mare + datisi being scum together?

[Kaiji]

actually that would require catboi+mare+datisi


well shit

[Kaiji]

where is that one theory that actually fits lmfao

[Kaiji]

catboi confirmed neighborizer/voyeur was taken

[Kaiji]

also andante just to be clear, catboi = gira if that helps you understand that slot better

[Kaiji]

im going back to my word that we shouldnt really make any moves until we get something from mena!slot


also i'd like datisi and/or mare talk about what has been said in their hood so far.

at the very least i want to be added to it tonight.

[Kaiji]

what the hell thats busted

[Kaiji]

well mare's hood does get confirmed real or not by targeting outside of catboi tonight

because then that makes 3 separate people confirming it real

i really dont mind being an assigned target so i can be free of the game if they have to nightkill me rofl

[Kaiji]

i'm just waiting on mena to be replaced or for them to come back honestly

[Kaiji]

lets just wait for mena slot to say something here


even if we are elimnating them - it gives us nothing if we see no defense from them or claim

[Kaiji]

they could be a cop with multiple checks for all we know

[Kaiji]

mena gets replaced in like 7 hours

[Kaiji]

On a red flip: mare on catboi, andante on mare

[Kaiji]

I meant mare on mena*

[Kaiji]

Im thinking we flip mena.

I think mena claimed cop to implicate me if scum and his flip will help resolve skitter too if town

[Kaiji]

Catboi mena is not svs

[Kaiji]

pretty much this whole living playerlist can make a solid scum plan except maybe andante who is good at scum for other reasons lmfao

[Kaiji]

it helps when 4 of the players are from a website known for having very good scumplay

[Kaiji]

Is she good at understanding mechanics?

not really, when i scummed with andante I handled all the mech stuff

[Kaiji]

as someone who was heavily hinting at mena being possible cop i feel that the reason mena is now a claimed cop is an attempt to tie me harder to the slot and use me as the gamewinning mislim and that alone makes me want to resolve mena first

[Kaiji]

VOTE: sleep

we have a guaranteed 50/50 and it includes a claimed cop that cannot be roleblocked

tonight is the only night scum might have a n3 vig


we are fine to no lim here and if we only get 1 kill and its not mena we can no lim again

we should go for the 2 visit strat, it is ok IMO if it is PGO because we only go to limlo with a conf scum and 1 of those 2 are within poe

thats how i feel about it right now.

[Kaiji]

if scum chose PGO and n3 vig thats just fucking huge brained

[Kaiji]

SS would be helping with mech info
Skitter would be helping with general stuff
I would be helping with general stuff
Datisi would be helping with general stuff
Catboi would be helping with general stuff
Mare would at least have suggestions on getting out of their situtation
Alyssa would be helping with general stuff
Andante would be kinda panicking in scum pt

this is literally it

and mena himself is good enough at scum to do stuff on his own


its like

largely dumb to have this conversation lol

[Kaiji]

andante knows how to follow a mech plan because they played open setups on epicmafia for years so its a bit absurd for them to not play follow the cop here to verify honestly.

[Kaiji]

i mean at least mare on mena would be good since scum would be forced to kill mare in most scenarios

[Kaiji]

uhh em has been dead for a while… lets see… em forum maf… I sheeped my partners… was almost always maf… not sure the point kaji is making tbh

except you know how to play as journalist in frontier justice 3 and be on the cop lmfao

[Kaiji]

i still want to vote sleep

[Kaiji]

optimal for 2 reasons:

n3 scum vig may exist

catboi/mena is a 50/50 and scum have to risk more investigatives if catboi is in the scum half(i still acknowledge it can be SvS btw but then mena has to out another result which complicates the gamestate from their POV if they are scum)

[Kaiji]

thoughts:

andante/skitter unaligned

mena/skitter aligned for sure in scum mena world

SS/skitter aligned


so if mena scum

go skitter->SS


the fact i dont know where to go though from catboi scum is a sign that its probably wrong

[Kaiji]

actually
VOTE: Mena

[Kaiji]

andante and skitter also unaligned

[Kaiji]

force skitter to reexplain their reasoning on cakez push btw - that will 100% bleed the scumtells

[Kaiji]

im fine losing to scum catboi if they had mena flimsily guilty them honestly

locktowning:
Alyssa
Andante
Mare
Catboi
Datisi

only willing to reconsider these in a limlo situation

i think we're only flipping scum from here on out

[Kaiji]

catboi joined me on voting mena yesterday. mena scum.. means dats scum? but I had this whole thing about how dats can't be scum...

do you townread skitter and SS

[Kaiji]

we were running otu of time, wasn't townreading him, didn't want to flip midway, and thought he was the vig

nah see this is so flimsy rofl

[Kaiji]

why is mare lock town?

maybe locktown is the wrong word but i wanna take them off the table here because of confirmed role choice is just not scum wincon advancing here

[Kaiji]

I TR SS and Alyssa the most

ok well enjoy entering limlo with SS rofl

[Kaiji]

well its scum reasoning so hf after mena goes down

[Kaiji]

faker died because you shot her and she was the only one fosing you xoxo

[Kaiji]

I can see a tinfoil scenario where Skitter + Andante are both scum

but tbh if that's the case then I think they just deserve the win so I won't bother humoring it

its the andante side that bleeds that andante is never teamed with skitter - her reaction to certain queries is proof

[Kaiji]

oh sure she wasnt on you when pushing sleepless but lets not pretend like scum players dont think a step ahead and know what a likely outcome is when reality doesnt fit a certain path


they go back to a previous path that was viable to them

[Kaiji]

I TR SS and Alyssa the most

ok well enjoy entering limlo with SS rofl

SS can carry this village!!! lmaooo

we are so fucked

[Kaiji]

andante please just be smart with your tracks because there is 0% chance you die while townreading SS

[Kaiji]

hey skitter did you soft anywhere you chose tracker/JK btw

[Kaiji]

show me where there is precedence for you being vt here

[Kaiji]

andante please just be smart with your tracks because there is 0% chance you die while townreading SS

I mean, if I was maf I'd never kill me... I'm way too unsure of my reads, but SS is town!!!

ok as long as u help kill mena and skitter i think we still win because at least tracker is a big enuff threat lol

[Kaiji]

im glad that there is no way scum can take out catboi alyssa and I in 1 shot because skitter has no chance of surviving without taking us all out

[Kaiji]

agian, i 100% would have shot faker as scum there
i'm saying, though, i wouldn't have done so because she was FOS'ing me

i also think that most scumteams shoot faker that night

pedit i mean i would try to be nice regardless of my alignment

pedit2 possibly where andante claimed, i don't remember exactly what i said. i did explicitly say she was telling the truth about her role multiple times, at least once to you

nonono

quote it

[Kaiji]

HAHAHHA skitter fucking caught with their pants down

[Kaiji]

nah i want a soft from before fucking post 4.5k


when we're that deep into the game there's already a scum plan with claims


where's the indication that Vt was gotten on d1?

[Kaiji]

andante u are literally just omgusing mare its embarassing please stop

[Kaiji]

skitter has done 0 solving and u are like here like fawning over them being nice to you and doing nice things thats so annoying and why its frustrating to play with u when ur town

[Kaiji]

and then when mare flips town u vote datisi for the game losing mislim I can already see it from miles away

[Kaiji]

andante if skitter is so towny why did they not kill skitter?

[Kaiji]

a) skitter is a known scumhunter, and even got an award for it 1 year
b) skitter was very high in the draft - so likely PR
c) scum had a vig shot to use
d) skitter has a very shallow case on why they voted cakez, and in fact has very shallow reads in general. we are on day 3 with several flips and no indication of any solve here.
like you see a few things that at best can be argued as not alignment indicative and you think theyre locktown

[Kaiji]

btw skitter is like 10000% scum and should be considered scum from your pov andante if a n3 scum vig shot goes off

[Kaiji]

because the inno from mena is 100% to take skitter off the table here

[Kaiji]

i tried to counterwagon SS but i got shut down several times - skitter was very insistent on cakez over SS for whatever reason and its really fuckin simple to see taht the different treatment is because cakez is town and SS is scum

[Kaiji]

yes thats my solve

[Kaiji]

mena -> protected skitter, skitter - > protected SS



skitter believed the doc claim, *but* they wouldn't sheep onto SS, who was midway's scumread.

I thought, that SS was scum with midway here based on that - > but skitter's behavior around what reality is does not line up with a town skitter.

[Kaiji]

i think mena made it clear they want to stay and make sure that there is minimum spew

the claim has 2 goals:

remove skitter from the limpool(prob a n3 vig)
mislim a strong player(catboi)

[Kaiji]

viewtopic.php?f=83&t=88294&user_select[]=29653

btw - > look at this recent towngame from skitter from a somewhat similar semiopen type of semi open just without a draft


their reads have much more conviction here and they also care enough to question people etc.

here its just trying to ride the flow until something happens and just stop things from happening

[Kaiji]

mare pls play the game bc andante will not stop tunneling u and i dont wanna lose

[Kaiji]

i wish we had more time d2 because the way i solved cakez alignment in twilight was so frustrating

i should have just stuck to mena rofl


pooky pocketed me from replacement - well done

[Kaiji]

I don't think me doing more would untunnel her.

have you actually tried or

[Kaiji]

because andante 100% reconsiders when people actually lay out their thoughts on the table, im similar in that regard when i havae a person PoEd who has done nearly nothing

[Kaiji]

well andante is definitely not scum with skitter

[Kaiji]

ok u know what andante we can have mare in poe

im down with it

[Kaiji]

but

VOTE: Skitter

im being spicy as fuck

lets remove the possiblity of n3 vig so we can fit that mislim in if needed

[Kaiji]

the fact mena tried to force a skitter lim to never happen here is exactly why i want the skitter lim to happen because i now believe they are the n3 vig

[Kaiji]

mena has passion when he's town - he is sorta like me in a sense

so yep

[Kaiji]

i believe they are giving up *intentionally* to get limmed or get catboi limmed and make sure skitter gets off the n3 vig

if yall wanna do a pro play - we remove skitter here and win the game

[Kaiji]

the safe plan is the unsafe one - it puts us at risk of the n3 vig.

[Kaiji]

no limming just allows scum to keep whoever of SS and Mare is scum both alive rather than giving us the power to do so.


plus it reduces the power of tracker - not that they prob wont nightkill you now.

[Kaiji]

limming scum is safe

but whatever

people never wanna play dayplay rofl



a little risk never hurt nobody

[Kaiji]

we're back to the point where townies are being lazy as fuck and wont help and scum are allowed to direct conversation away from themselves


im planting my vote firmly here.

i refuse to move.


unless its to hammer mena in the last 24 hours.

[Kaiji]

I'm not convinced by any of this

maybe u should try reading the game ur in xoxo

[Kaiji]

it might help u see conclusion i have reached by
reading the game

[Kaiji]

it really says a lot about the gamestate when andante has read more of the game than the rest of the playerlist for the most part

[Kaiji]

are u srs

[Kaiji]

u dont see
how

a scum who is lolcatting basically atp

to claim cop

with inno


on their n3 vig


on day 3



ok alyssa

[Kaiji]

you are projecting that *you* wouldnt do it instead of thinking about what is actually possible.

[Kaiji]

If skitter is the n3 vig then menalque doesn't need to do shit

Just claim an innocent result on a town that is remotely reasonable to investigate and then don't leave that paper trail behind

ok alyssa

but does this supposed more optimal scenario

mean that 100% scum didn't do my proposed scenario

[Kaiji]

you are spewing logical fallacies

[Kaiji]

"oh because i perceive this as optimal that means scum did this optimal thing"


like .

No.

thats so wrong

[Kaiji]

whatever.

im right.

[Kaiji]

rofl skitter is just trying to play nice with andante to make them pocketed more


andante dont let skitter only talk about how you're town make them talk about other people

[Kaiji]

VOTE: mena

since even gira is too scared to lim skitter, someone i thought would be on board

im going to revert to this despite saying i wouldnt

i was expecting gira to have the confidence to say something


and skitter really did wait till i left thread to come back rofl

[Kaiji]

Like I can see a scenario where menalque just arbitrarily yoloclaims a guilty out of nowhere and just chooses whatever scum partner of his to claim an innocent result on

But I also fully believe that it would only happen because he knows that he's in some shit and about to be flipped, and that it would make a lot more sense to do what would benefit the team the most, which would mean discussing with them what he's going to do

And I really struggle to find a reason why it would make the most sense to just draw attention to the n3 vig by claiming an inno on them from a scum partner about to go down, it's not like skitter has been a front runner for the kill all day or anything

when you're in limlo without me

remember what i said thx

[Kaiji]

skitter post real reads challenge (impossible)(because she is scum)

[Kaiji]

"i dont really scumread ss"

skitter doesnt consider after

midway and cakez flip town

that ss might be scum


its just incredible dissonance


either skitter is pocketing ss or he's her partner its really simple.

[Kaiji]

skitter stop posting filler challenge (impossible)

[Kaiji]

i skimmed the past however many pages, how much of it is actually important for me to deepread

very.

please effort.

[Kaiji]

as in

you are going to get mislimmed in limlo if you dont effort here and you are town

[Kaiji]

its not from my point of view it matters its convincing andante who might end up voting you in limlo

[Kaiji]

that about sums up how it feels to play with town her in the late game yea

[Kaiji]

I feel like the team is within like

Enchant/Kaiji/SS/Datisi

Andante/Skitter/Mare/Catboi all read town to me

Why am i scum.
Explain your read rn

[Kaiji]

God. Enchant is always a riot regardless of his alignment

[Kaiji]

hammer ur partner

[Kaiji]

Guess you should try actually reading my posts

Why is skitter towny then

[Kaiji]

Looks like the enchant defense squad has appeared

[Kaiji]

Looks like the enchant defense squad has appeared

The who now?

Skitter and alyssa rofl

[Kaiji]

i want alyssa to add more depth to her reads after we flip enchant

[Kaiji]

It turns out i misinterpreted a post

[Kaiji]

Im still very solidly in town meta

[Kaiji]

v/la friday thru sunday due to snowstorm

[Kaiji]

(i work as a landscaper from spring to fall and then do snow removal in the winter if ya wondering why)

[Kaiji]

Alyssa feels like she wants to dodge having to do any sort of anaylsis suggesting this is work for her

[Kaiji]

my townread on the slot has been steadily waning as they have posted non-content

[Kaiji]

UNVOTE:

in a scum alyssa world idk if enchant is scum here so let me look


also catboi twiddling his thumbs is not feeling great to me either


skitter has exhibited effort to solve which honestly atp i wanna sort by WIM

[Kaiji]

im tossing all my reads away

we are starting from scratch.

[Kaiji]

atp i think the only person im willing to clear is andante

but not as sure anymore if its a town!enchant world.

[Kaiji]

vibe solve if we assume enchant flips town:

Catboi/Alyssa/Mare

Enchant flips scum:

Enchant/Skitter/SS


outside of this is:

Andante/Datisi

[Kaiji]

i do not feel that catboi is very concerned with the guilty because from their pov this is a huge revelation that helps him solve better but instead he is also twiddling thumbs. he is on the site often and yet does not care to visit this game.

[Kaiji]

[instrumental]

vote count 2.1 !

catboi (2):

skitter30, SirCakez

midwaybear (1):

Datisi

Datisi (1):

midwaybear

SirCakez (1):

Alyssa The Lamb

Something_Smart (1):

catboi

Andante (1):

Something_Smart

not voting (4):

Andante, northsidegal, Mare, Menalque,

11 are alive, and it takes 6 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-01-18 15:10:00)

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• yes? well did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?

you gon' sign this pre-nup

vote count 2.2 !

catboi (3):

skitter30, SirCakez, Alyssa The Lamb

midwaybear (1):

Datisi

Andante (1):

Something_Smart

skitter30 (1):

catboi

Mare (1):

midwaybear

SirCakez (1):

Menalque

not voting (3):

Andante, northsidegal, Mare

11 are alive, and it takes 6 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-01-18 15:10:00)

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• yes? well did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?

feel the rain on your skin

vote count 2.3 !

northsidegal (3):

Datisi, Alyssa The Lamb, Andante

catboi (2):

SirCakez, skitter30

Mare (2):

midwaybear, catboi

SirCakez (2):

Menalque, Mare

not voting (2):

northsidegal, Something_Smart

11 are alive, and it takes 6 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-01-18 15:10:00)

other ideas

• did you know that skitter30 is vla on fridays and saturdays?
  
• yes? well did you know that datisi is vla on tuesdays and thursdays?
  
• one last thing: sircakez is vla through the 16th

not to flex but in a catboi scum world im pretty clear huhu

but this is very interesting movement and i am quoting this to bookmark the post links to read later

[Kaiji]

i've been looking for you (haven't you heard?)

vote count 1.6 !

midwaybear (3):

[/b]Datisi, flow trap,

innocentvillager

Sleepless Assassin (2):

[/b]Andante, skitter30

skitter30 (2):

midwaybear,

Something_Smart

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):

SirCakez, Faker

innocentvillager (1):

Sleepless Assassin

Faker (1):

[/b]PookyTheMagicalBear

SirCakez (1):

Mare

not voting (2):

catboi, northsidegal

14 are alive, and it takes 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-01-05 12:45:00)

call the family just to know they're there

vote count 1.7 !

Sleepless Assassin

(4):

Andante, northsidegal, Mare, PookyTheMagicalBear

midwaybear

(2):

flow trap,

innocentvillager

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):

SirCakez, Faker

flow trap (2):

skitter30, Datisi

skitter30 (1):

Something_Smart

innocentvillager

(1):

Sleepless Assassin

not voting (2):

catboi,

midwaybear

14 are alive, and it takes 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-01-05 12:45:00)

this year . . our year

vote count 1.8 !

flow trap (5):

skitter30, Datisi,

Sleepless Assassin, SirCakez, innocentvillager

Sleepless Assassin

(4):

northsidegal, PookyTheMagicalBear,

Faker

, Andante

SirCakez

(2):

catboi, Mare

midwaybear

(1):

flow trap

skitter30 (1):

Something_Smart

not voting (1):

midwaybear

14 are alive, and it takes 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 1 ends in ------------

in spite of ourselves, we'll end up a'sittin on a rainbow

vote count 1.9 !

flow trap (5):

skitter30, Datisi,

Sleepless Assassin, SirCakez, innocentvillager

Sleepless Assassin

(3):

northsidegal, Menalque, Andante

SirCakez

(3):

catboi, Mare,

Faker

midwaybear

(1):

flow trap

skitter30 (1):

Something_Smart

not voting (1):

midwaybear

14 are alive, and it takes 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-01-06 14:00:00)

all of my change i spent on you

vote count 1.8 !

Sleepless Assassin

(6):

northsidegal, Menalque, Andante,

Faker

, catboi, Mare

flow trap (5):

skitter30, Datisi,

Sleepless Assassin, SirCakez, innocentvillager

midwaybear

(1):

flow trap

Faker

(1):

Something_Smart

not voting (1):

midwaybear

14 are alive, and it takes 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-01-06 14:00:00)

when you wake up... do you think of me?

vote count 1.7 !

Sleepless Assassin

(8):

northsidegal, Menalque, Andante, catboi,

midwaybear

,

Faker

, Mare, skitter30

flow trap (5):

Sleepless Assassin

, Datisi,

innocentvillager, SirCakez

, Something_Smart

midwaybear (1):

flow trap

not voting (0):

with 14 alive, it took 8 votes to posthumously nominate someone for the rock and roll hall of fame.

[Kaiji]

Ok currently leaning:

We no lim

Enchant checks Alyssa.

[Kaiji]

I'm a mess this game but thats good because im a hot mess

[Kaiji]

me, opening up flow iso and feeling townvibes from him:

[Kaiji]

fun fact: this game is much easier to solve if everyone actually puts in effort. and we raise the bar of what is needed to towntell !

[Kaiji]

alyssa have u tried posting analysis instead of complaining ?

[Kaiji]

case pooky/mena/enchant for me


or alternatively:

scumcase skitter

towncase catboi


its incredibly easy to solve a cop slot with checks because of how tied they are.

if even 1 check doesnt line up with reality its a strong point against them being real.


so lets hear it.

[Kaiji]

i think if we force scum to kill it makes for some awkward kills.

well

other than me


honestly i just die rofl, i see myself as the defacto best after andante

but thats fine because then alyssa has to, as town, reeval their solve, or as scum, is caught with their pants down trying to create a new solve.

[Kaiji]

case pooky/mena/enchant for me


or alternatively:

scumcase skitter

towncase catboi


its incredibly easy to solve a cop slot with checks because of how tied they are.

if even 1 check doesnt line up with reality its a strong point against them being real.

i'm just asking you to play the game, why are you so offended?

so lets hear it.

Go away

[Kaiji]

case pooky/mena/enchant for me


or alternatively:

scumcase skitter

towncase catboi


its incredibly easy to solve a cop slot with checks because of how tied they are.

if even 1 check doesnt line up with reality its a strong point against them being real.


so lets hear it.

Go away

i'm just asking you to play the game, why are you so offended?

uhhh fixed post LOL

[Kaiji]

is your issue that the proposed check is you, or with the entire notion of no-limming today

Latter

I don't care at all that I'm the proposed check

ok, so why are your objections to no-limming only coming now, and not when i proposed it several days ago and when there's been much discussion abt it

reality is a funny thing when the truth comes out, the liars go screaming


what do you think of catboi's treatment of enchant here?

[Kaiji]

actually i completelyt forgot that the cop is ascetic and we even clear the cop


i am willing to lose the game off enchant being PGO because very clearly this was not the scum plan if enchant slot is scum.

[Kaiji]

Because that was the thought I was referring to a while ago and I haven't had the time to properly assess it since I've been busy with all my obligations for weeks now

so busy you managed to make several hundred posts of non content in this game

[Kaiji]

VOTE: Enchant

if you dont go on enchant when we no lim ur throwing btw

[Kaiji]

i dont care how u justify it

ur not catching scum here because there is 1 confirmed between enchant and catboi and if its only catboi then theyre leading kill anyways and if its enchant theyre leading kill

[Kaiji]

me: considers skitter might be town

brain: dopamine rush from the unlocked possibilities

[Kaiji]

dont do tunnels kid, theyre dangerous

[Kaiji]

i want to force enchant to check alyssa slot

VOTE: sleep

[Kaiji]

its more of im sick of ppl not trying and ur one of the few slots who are and not just blending into the apathy and im willing to hand it to you if youre scum putting in effort

[Kaiji]

its liklier that scum lost steam and lack endurance than scum is continually findign reasons to play the game when they arent really at risk.

[Kaiji]

VOTE: Enchant

if you dont go on enchant when we no lim ur throwing btw

this ^

kaiji what changed your mind on me?

play-wise tbh i think i probably townread kaiji here the most

really? I don't TR kaji at all, only after all the talk about how if we no lim and there's no vig we lose the mis lim, has kaji decided "oh yes. lets no lim!!"

u literally have a 0% readrate on me so thanks for confirming me as town.

[Kaiji]

me, opening up flow iso and feeling townvibes from him:

I am not surre how you feel anything from flow

Hello pls

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

[Kaiji]

I am mostly lost as to where the discussion around no elimination is going

I guess I should be looking at other things I just find playing mafia mostly aggravating right now

changed my mind on no lim

VOTE: catboi

[Kaiji]

i dont care about snipes about what im posting

post original content

u have 1 conf scum from your pov, where is the indication that you are solving anything from that pov

That's not a snipe, it's a question ffs

I am trying to get your perspective

solve or die

[Kaiji]

im not answering any questions

you post analysis

then we can talk.

[Kaiji]

mare is scumclaiming so hard if this flips town rofl

im so fucking done


townies actually effort challenge please.

[Kaiji]

I was like "yo mena is maf"
and kaji was like "no, pooky is town"
and now kaji was like "yeah! mena maf!!"
and now kaji is voting mena's guilty, so I think kaji is back to TRing Mena

i cant wait till scum kill u

actually no

theyll prob kill me and u will toss the game for us because you are incapable of listening to other people and working with them.

[Kaiji]

catboi busy IIOAing

andante just loltowning like usual

mare just straight doing nothing

fuckin love this game



andante why is catboi town

[Kaiji]

call me town or scum catboi

come on

i want stances

not statements of fact/questions


my chips are on that ur in antispew mode bc ur about to be confirmed scum and thats why you wont and the townies present,(mainly andante) are too stubborn to evaluate that because their egos are too huge.

[Kaiji]

who cares

semantics

[Kaiji]

andante whenever u wanna eject your stubborn ego feel free to see how blatantly catboi is trying to not post any reads here

[Kaiji]

mare im not extendign the same to u bc ur prob partnered.

[Kaiji]

I hope kaiji is scum

why am i scum

[Kaiji]

it was blatant


flip alyssa and mare


dont deviate
if theyre town its on them idgaf

[Kaiji]

i know thats a meme but ur def scum rofl

[Kaiji]

ngl I really hope the game just ends because I really have no interest in playing this out anymore

fake

[Kaiji]

actually real

u dont have n3 vig rofl

[Kaiji]

0 scum endurance

ur steam ran out


just keep andante alive u will likely win

[Kaiji]

when skitter and I die back to back itll be funny

[Kaiji]

sktiter ur likely dead on an enchant town flip so post reads pls

[Kaiji]

bye

VOTE: Enchant

oh thank you!!! please tell me that was hammer to end this

you're incorrigible.

also i am literally never letting you have a pass for ego play ever again if you end up being scum here

[Kaiji]

andante whenever u wanna eject your stubborn ego feel free to see how blatantly catboi is trying to not post any reads here

Also, can I just please request we try to be nicer? thanks.. it's genuinely getting annoying koba..

im expressing how it feels interacting with you because it really is like talking to a brick wall.

[Kaiji]

i request that you actually open your ears and listen to people because that will also help you in life too

[Kaiji]

Koba seriously, please stop. It is so freaking old... I try to just ignore it all, but there's a point. literally. PLEASE STOP.

this is the equivalent of you sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling loudly that you cant hear me

just have some humility to listen when people flip is all i ask.

[Kaiji]

kaiji switching to try to bulldoze the game to their will is actually incredibly scummy

when has that ever been in my scummeta?

[Kaiji]

i think its hilarious that you can only post surface level quips about me without any verification because reality will never agree with you.

[Kaiji]

feeling like I got pocketed by kaiji this whol dancer around enchant the last couple days makes absolutely no sense

no u dont rofl

u just know that schadd isnt around to lock thread rn

[Kaiji]

i have pushed pretty much every player here except like datisi so ok gira

[Kaiji]

also schadd is online i was wrong

[Kaiji]

im going to cackle if enchant is flipping otnw here

but like i know im a planned nightkill after skitter likely in scum u world so whatever

[Kaiji]

id have killed some1 who annoyingly tunnels me whenever we play rather than kill midway n2

like im the only super active one here unless youre saying its just scum active


and im only entertaining u rn bc a) if ur scum its spew so whatever and b) more info

[Kaiji]

rofl

[Kaiji]

i had a feeling that it wasnt hammered i should have read back

[Kaiji]

idk i'm not sure if this is the post-flip silence of scum being like 'oh they just flipped one of us, let's not say anything to spew' or 'we just won we just need to wait for night to like 'confirm' it'

this was so weird ...
probably the former

enchant isnt active during this time

[Kaiji]

they're in russia

[Kaiji]

oh u mean the others lol

[Kaiji]

can we sleep the day and force this check btw

[Kaiji]

enchant literally gets confirmed that way

and that way we get an extra "flip" in the way of a cop check if not just confirming catboi as scum

its like the safest play here.

[Kaiji]

i want to play this safe so we get at least 1 scum bagged bc the game becomes much easier when theres 1 scum confirmed.

[Kaiji]

You're not going to get shit from a check

u are acting like scum scared here its fucking funny.

[Kaiji]

its ok bc ur basically confirmed either way if enchant flips town based on how ur treating the wagon and how little ur actually analyzing this game.

[Kaiji]

VOTE: No lim

awe thanks

[Kaiji]

i'll let that one slide bc i know how frustrating it is to be scum in ur position

[Kaiji]

@enchant please check alyssa

@andante @mare be on enchant

not performing any of these actions is akin to a scumclaim


we can debate who the check should be but resolving the counterwagon to d1 flip is extremely informative.

[Kaiji]

it really sucks when we have replacements tho bc we cant get the thought process from mena why they checked skitter over alyssa

lost me the game in scp upick when LLD subbed out and i couldnt question her about her d2 lol

[Kaiji]

(dont mind me just tinfoiling if im wrong on alyssa now and end up losing the game for us)

[Kaiji]

i'll take that as a compliment

[Kaiji]

this is why i slank intentioanlly in games where im scum nowadays btw

bc even tho its like blatantly different from my towngames

i get suspected when im town just for posting


people tend to just suspect whats directly in front of them(im guilty of it and try to identify when this is happening)

granted - right now i think only andante is a townie throwing shade at me so we'll see.

[Kaiji]

moreso a message to alyssa if they're town to consider some critical thinking in why i would be motivated to post so much and out activity everyone

[Kaiji]

i dont really wanna bring this up but im also like intensely depressed, esp this past week

openwolfing is very draining to me

its like reasonably impossible for me to fake scumhunt for me in that state


its a time where i would 100% slank myself instead of active play.

[Kaiji]

If there isnt a n3 vig i would probably just flip enchant tom tbh

we get a "cop check" on enchant tonight too bc of ascetic

[Kaiji]

i've already been feeling better thanks

[Kaiji]

you never even did give a shit so sorry if i don't believe your sentiment.

[Kaiji]

its just rich when people who have done 0 work this game try to complain about people accusing them of doing no work and resort to accusatory tactics on why they are continuing to do 0 work.


you signed up to play mafia, not sit in a circle and hold hands

[Kaiji]

ok sorry but i am kinda chuckling at you accusing me of destroying motivation

because like you've complained half the game that you dont have any motivation at all

so like i destroyed nothing.

[Kaiji]

I'm not very caught up, no, especially now that two of my three townreads are dead

That's disappointing

This game needs more spice

what would u suggest

Wagoning somebody no one would expect a wagon on at this stage
Pushing controversial reads

Really anyone to force people to take a stance on something

wild

[Kaiji]

2k posts changes a person

[Kaiji]

oh no that was a separete thought that is ironic now that you're just calling me scum and saying im playing poorly when thats exactly the type of play u were asking for 2k posts ago.

[Kaiji]

skitter, if you're town, please hammer day. thanks

why do u wanna lim a possible cop so bad?

[Kaiji]

ok well i think you're a good enough player to understand why no limming here is optimal

i said to case one of catboi, skitter, or enchant to prove that wrong


recently ive been actually leaning skitter townier and catboi has just been straight up scum stalling to get their final mislim through IMO

i'm willing to talk about the game to people open to actually make stances and read the game theyre in.


let me reread what you said to see what you meant about shutting out.

I'm willing to believe andante is possible scum here based on how 1 track minded she is because she has pet reads as scum when she is scum and just goes full hardheaded mode as such

as in

i think andante scum is a possible world with you town here.


i'm operating from a catboi scum world fwiw

[Kaiji]

my apologies if i said something that felt shutting down - i am autistic and miss cues and directly telling me does help me recalibrate and realize what im doing (which is what im doing now)


as the saying goes - beggars cant be choosers - and if youre one of the only ones even remotely willing to interact and discuss i need to take that and im willing to yield ground here.