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I don’t like thisIn post 26, Elements wrote:The vote was because they had no picture.
MegAzumaril gave there lack of picture a mysterious reason.
Now the lack of picture becomes meaningful, undermining my reason to vote.
Hence unvote
VOTE: Roden<Embrace The Void>
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UNVOTE:
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The fuck does this mean?In post 82, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I mean I don't directly town read you it’s more like if I had to gut guess I’d say your Rand Town from how you have approached the game so far.In post 78, MegAzumarill wrote:
Why do you see me as town here?In post 71, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah please don’t
I have learned that being lackadaisical about imprecise wording is a recipe for disaster.
And it sounds like trying to act like her play isn’t towny but there’s other reasons to TR her, which lets you go back on them potentially.<Embrace The Void>
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In post 97, Malakittens wrote::agree:
And idc to explain to you rn Drapion
I feel like Roden sees the same things I do, he just ascribes different meaning to it.<Embrace The Void>
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In post 116, hutmeil wrote:Not sure what the issue is with PD's wordings. I think he's just trying to say he town leans Meg (as against town reading). Not sure why but I feel like Gamma's a bit aggressive this game. I want to vote but that would put the slot at E-1.
Try again pal. Think you forgot to shuffle your deck after that coalition game.<Embrace The Void>
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In post 109, Elements wrote:Above The Line
Roden
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HmmmIn post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town<Embrace The Void>
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this feels like needless red tapeIn post 28, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Yeah honestly I think our objective here is to figure out who the CL is and make sure they are executed today.
Also make sure to remember that the second cult member might try and save their CL today cause if they don’t they would have a low chance of winning.
My suggestion is to make sure if your town reading someone not to blindly sheep their town reads (I never do) but cause like they could be the second cultist trying to make their CL look good so make sure you have valid reasons for each of your Townreads.
“I can see Meg” is so noncommittalIn post 71, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town
Still using dodgy wording with “don’t directly townread”In post 82, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I mean I don't directly town read you it’s more like if I had to gut guess I’d say your Rand Town from how you have approached the game so far.In post 78, MegAzumarill wrote:
Why do you see me as town here?In post 71, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
I can see Meg, I didn’t like Gamma’s vote on you.In post 57, Elements wrote:I think MegAzumarill and Gamma Emerald are just town
I see absolutely zero reason town would care to give scum tips like this, it’s so uselessly defeatistIn post 92, ProfessorDrapion wrote:I do actually like Elements too but nothing that makes me say “yeah this is town”
But I do think Gamma/Elements are not both aligned together so if Gamma flips wolf then I think Elements is just town.
Although I guess if Gamma isn’t the CL then the CL could convert Elements and no longer make them town but my point is I don’t think they are ever starting wolves.
Also, if Elements is town this positions Drapion nicely to push there after I flip town<Embrace The Void>
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Are you sure about thatIn post 127, catboi wrote:<Embrace The Void>
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zzzzIn post 158, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Yeah cause your NK15 is bias.In post 155, Gamma Emerald wrote:my NK15 read is also meta
there a reason you're only saying it here?
Cause they are pushing the town (me) with you and you are wolf that can’t make genuine reads.
My thinking is my hutmeil read breaks your narrative so you have to shade it by calling it meta<Embrace The Void>
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Not a fan of Drapion rnIn post 169, MathBlade wrote:Howdy Reading now.
I am so glad to be town for once.
To that end kinda wanna see where everyone’s head’s at:
Meg: Long time no see. Who is your top town and scum read?
Mala: Is this it? The fabled game where we are both town and alive?
Roden: What are your vibes of the game so far?
Elements: Don’t know you that well. What’s your favorite thing about the game so far?
Campbell: Looks like your a strategy guy. Do you have a plan now or more just thinking mechanics?
Gamma: Nice work in the theme game. Gonna see if you have similar vibes. Any strong reads/feels?
NK15: Got any spicy thoughts? Usually you are good but tend to be drowned out so hope you see this and drop a spicy thought or read.
also I don’t rate NK15 as highly as you do lol
What makes you say this already?In post 170, MathBlade wrote:
Elements and NK15 probably contains at least one scum.In post 20, Elements wrote:
oooooIn post 19, MegAzumarill wrote:Well they would be "Known 15" if they had a picture
UNVOTE:
This feels fake.<Embrace The Void>
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:/In post 195, MathBlade wrote:
First post is pretty straightforwardIn post 192, MegAzumarill wrote:In post 185, MathBlade wrote:
This reads informed Drapion is town.In post 103, MegAzumarill wrote:Drapion looks noncommittal here on read on me but I don't think I'd expect town here to be completely commited.
Still not a fan of it
Drapion had weird wording last game I was with him.
I think it’s NAIThese also don't make sense/aren't explained respectively.
Overall this feel really contrived
Gamma’s push on Drapion (and some Roden but mostly Gamma) is about word choice.
I was providing a counter example.
I think it’s NAI
But I don’t scumread anyone on the wagon so I am not like OMG no
The latter is simple
I am a top wagon
Tons of people are inactive yet random dogpile indicates scum
Second vote is usually scum and I already scumread Elements<Embrace The Void>
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lmao whatIn post 229, ProfessorDrapion wrote:You think my wolf read on Gamma was something before?
Damn if Gamma keeps going and I’m 1-shot away from death row, he’s going to be so obvious wolf tomorrow that everyone will see it.<Embrace The Void>
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You may wish to change votes if you mean thisIn post 159, Malakittens wrote:
Hot take: I think you are town tooIn post 149, Gamma Emerald wrote:I do think roden is town tho<Embrace The Void>
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lmfaoIn post 291, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Hmm what If I'm wrong on Meg.
I could see them with Gamma.
Heck I could see everyone with Gamma except for Elements.
I like Elements, they are my top town.<Embrace The Void>
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yeah no shit, that's what meg is asking aboutIn post 332, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
Hmm I really don’t think Gamma is town but if they are I’d have to re-evaluate here.In post 329, MegAzumarill wrote:
@DrapionIn post 323, MegAzumarill wrote:
No that was meIn post 319, ProfessorDrapion wrote:Wasn’t it Math being like “I could see one of Drapion’s voters after Gamma being a wolf”
or am I mistaken?
Then this dude is like “If Meg is town it’s probably Drapion”
Like TF? Like a town doesn’t say it could be so and so voters and then say it’s just them.
I mean I could see Math trying to ML Meg, ML me and then ML Elements or one of my voters that isn’t Gamma.
The dude has a perfect ML setup here.
Could do me a favor and consider the world where Gamma gets vig shot right now and flips town. Who's scum then?<Embrace The Void>
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lol what's so wrong with it, jeezusIn post 339, MegAzumarill wrote:
I don't really see the world where Math plays like he did in his catchup as town though.In post 335, Roden wrote:
Why wouldn't he follow me on Drapion then? If he's CL it would be the best play for him. If I'm wrong on Drapion then it makes me look bad and I can be pushed tomorrow. If I'm right then he has me pocketed.In post 331, MegAzumarill wrote:CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI
Granted...he would know I'm cautious around him and that I would look out for a potential pocket. If he's scum then he would try to play around me like he has in past games.
If I had one thing I would say concerns me. It's that he isn't trying that hard to convince me to vote with him.<Embrace The Void>
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yeah I pointed this out earlierIn post 349, Roden wrote:
I think he's just looking worse as the game goes on. He keeps trying to scare people into doing what he wants and talking in a way that's giving tips to the cult in how they should play tonight.In post 345, MegAzumarill wrote:Roden has your read's reasonings on Drapion shifted significantly since the start of the wagon?
I'm not sure he's scum but if he's town he's a fucking idiot (purely talking about his play, ftr)<Embrace The Void>
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lol no? every scumteam is at risk to a jailkeeper just negating their ability to recruit. VT doesn't put a target on your back but a PR claim might.In post 351, MathBlade wrote:
This is incorrect.In post 331, MegAzumarill wrote:CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI
If I was cult leader and thought I was going down I would know a limited space of which setups would exist and then claim a PR of that. Then by other players reactions I would know where the PRs were and would guide my team accordingly, I mean I am not CL so the point is null and void, but if I was CL I would know I would be on borrowed time so I would be claiming a PR of some kind.<Embrace The Void>
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as wack as her SR on you feels I kinda lean town on megIn post 353, MathBlade wrote:
Like I said I am a VT. Since I am not a PR my flip isn’t the be all end all and it’s more important my TRs communicate and collaborate with each other.In post 335, Roden wrote:
Why wouldn't he follow me on Drapion then? If he's CL it would be the best play for him. If I'm wrong on Drapion then it makes me look bad and I can be pushed tomorrow. If I'm right then he has me pocketed.In post 331, MegAzumarill wrote:CL Math has to claim VT here so I don't think the claim is AI
Granted...he would know I'm cautious around him and that I would look out for a potential pocket. If he's scum then he would try to play around me like he has in past games.
If I had one thing I would say concerns me. It's that he isn't trying that hard to convince me to vote with him.
Right now that seems to be happening and a town block can form. If Drapion (or whoever my town block picks) flips town then either A) People see my reads as true or B) scum in my TRs or both
If Drapion flips scum then my reads are wrong
I am forceful when I feel things will be bad if I don’t get my way
I don’t feel that here whether we elim me or someone else.
I wish we would elim Meg or Elements but like I said town block more important especially if we don’t hit CL so we can look for changes in players
elements I don't really feel strongly about either way<Embrace The Void>
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this is accurateIn post 355, MegAzumarill wrote:No but literally its nightless with more clears than mafia 7/9 times
bottom left or bottom right after a CL flips D1 is an autowin
any setup where town is able to conf two or more players without those confs getting recruited is gg
this setup is like, extremely reliant on the D1 flip<Embrace The Void>
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I doIn post 447, MathBlade wrote:I don’t agree with your 93 post at all.
I think me and Roden were calling Drap on the same thing, just expressing it differently<Embrace The Void>
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In post 455, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I currently think MegAzumarill is town as well.
Worst case scenarios, ratio of town to cult:
Day 2 6:2
Day 3 4:3
Curious what you’re reading Meg as town for but this seems solidIn post 456, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:If it can be achieved, I will execute Malakittens, Not Known 15 or Elements this day phase. This decision is not final.<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah 161 does seem weird for a partner to sayIn post 468, MathBlade wrote:In post 161, MegAzumarill wrote:Drapion feels.... weirdly tunneled here. I don't think scum!drapion does this here in a vacuum (especially CL!drapion), but this push feels too off to me for me to call it town.
Drapion is there some context here I might be missing for your Gamma read?
This. 100% now knowing that Drapion is cult then we know that Drapion had an agenda when they started pushing Gamma. Now it is possible that Gamma is CL and Drapion did a planned bus thing I see it as possible in the VCs but I don’t see it here. For this reason and another spicy reason I think Meg is not cult leader.In post 166, MegAzumarill wrote:
A lot of it puts justification to their actions IF they are scum, but it misses WHY they are scum and not town.In post 165, ProfessorDrapion wrote:
What’s off about my push on Gamma exactly?In post 161, MegAzumarill wrote:Drapion feels.... weirdly tunneled here. I don't think scum!drapion does this here in a vacuum (especially CL!drapion), but this push feels too off to me for me to call it town.
Drapion is there some context here I might be missing for your Gamma read?
Do you not think I bring up good points for my push?
Unless I'm missing something it looks like Gamma is scum is the assumption you started with here<Embrace The Void>
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You were almost voted out and if momentum hadn’t shifted you likely would have beenIn post 499, MathBlade wrote:Because you had to.
If you kept your vote on me too long then I realize you’re scum based on earlier claims.
If you didn’t vote Drapion then people would call you out.
The only place you could move your vote is Drapion
I don’t think it’s Roden. Also, that post you called shade looks like you’re post facto ascribing scum motive to things that seem innocuous, notably the last line<Embrace The Void>
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w i l dIn post 517, MathBlade wrote:
I have them in my PoE but no where near as likely.In post 515, MegAzumarill wrote:You don't have any other players you think could be CL?
I get other people disagree but I don’t see how
I say 2+2 = 4 I get told it is 5
I can’t just “believe” it’s 5.
That’s how I feel.
I really feel like me and fred have the correct interpretation of Roden's post and you're just being unreasonable.
All of the first 3 bits you presented in 494 don't really have room for interpretation. The last part does, but the conclusion I and Fred reached seems way more natural than yours given the things that came before Roden's post. Roden asked that question because you askedeveryone except Drapionsomething in your first post. So if you think Roden is tying you to Drapion, then I don't know what to say because the only thing I can say is gonna make me sound like a jackass.<Embrace The Void>
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What is your NK15 meta?In post 580, Roden wrote:I feel like I'm falling off a bit this game, sorry
I don't want to vote Elements because of their D1 play and interactions with other players, I just don't get the vibe that they're the CL. However I don't really have a compelling case besides my vibe read. Meanwhile NK15's case seems genuine, it clashes with my read but I think I could just be wrong on Elements. NK15 is town by meta, so I'm willing to follow him here since I do feel like Mala's been townier today anyway.
VOTE: Elements<Embrace The Void>
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why would JK self-elim, at least with CL alive
or a cop with a clear for that matter
JK could still stop a recruit action, and if the cop has a clear selfing would just get the clear recruited<Embrace The Void>
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hmmm why?In post 642, MegAzumarill wrote:Ok but I don't think cult recruits a town!Mala regardless<Embrace The Void>
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Disagree on RodenIn post 663, MathBlade wrote:Okay hammer without giving people a chance.
That’s sus as fuck.
Can like no one else see what I do here with NK15/Roden?<Embrace The Void>
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