Open 866: CK9++ [game over!]

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VOTE: SirCakez

My only scumread so far is Cakez

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I'm cautiously Townleaning Gamma now as well and I'm tempted to Townlean Bella.

I agree with the townlean on gamma!

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I liked the vote + question combo

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I liked the vote + question combo

Gamma poked at the votes in 15 and 22:

15 was before Frogster made a single post

22 was also before Cakez made a single post

They were both meme-y votes, so I feel like questioning them was unlikely to lead to much and fairly NAI as a result

I would disagree. Gamma’s questioning of them is the only reason for our current interaction, where you get to consider whether I actually think that gamma is more likely town for it, and I get to consider whether your disagreement is purrformative or also actually an attempt to move the game along.

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VOTE: deasvail omgus

what if bbt is scum

I don’t wanna fight no more

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

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I think cat, Maria, Frogster, Bella, gamma are all slightly more townie than null for me

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I don’t know what’s going on, but I’m liking this Enchant.

Also I like Lammolde’s commentary on Enchant.

Bella, what do you think is awkward about Lammolde here, and is that concerning you?

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I'm not liking this enchant, I've read the other one right recently!

I skimmed the newbie earlier, Ans they weren't this awkward. The whole convo about should I have remembered them felt drive-less, maybe new scum wanting to add 'content' without being sure what to say: does that make sense?

You, cat scratch and them I'm not massively vibing with, but you seem to be popping into others' town reads. *Shrug* I should probably be doing something more useful with my vote too. Thoughts on the wagons?

I think the wagons are largely meaningless. Do you think differently?

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VOTE: lammolde
I'm sold

Is it bad that I'm not?

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pooky why mala town?

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I feel happy with my place in the readslist thank you

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NOT THIS TIME BABY

i felt her soul in this post

actually that's a good point yeah

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I'm not sure how much there is to be gained in winding up lammolde even more but I could be wrong about that too

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VOTE: sircakez

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It’ll be a little while before I have time to devote to this, but I think looking off wagon is a good idea.

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Cakez and Roden jump out at first glance. Could consider Mala

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Hmm probably not Mala.

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I really disliked cats early posting but this page has been much better, Maria calling her town and me scum for not very much looks worse on Maria than cat, I've decided.

Why "really disliked"?

I really disliked cats early posting but this page has been much better, Maria calling her town and me scum for not very much looks worse on Maria than cat, I've decided.

Why "really disliked"?

I understand what I did could be interpreted as trying to torpedo a Gamma townread or whatever, so maybe I'm biased

but really disliked seems like an exaggeration no matter which way I look at it

and it's even weirder that you didn't vote me despite really disliking it

Hmm.

Bella looks pretty bad from both kills.

I think Bella’s strong suspicion of lammolde (and the awkwardness of their interactions) is enough for me to not consider Bella too strongly for now

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VOTE: Roden

because I'm DIFFERENT

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I agree Frog, I don't think Pooky is clear by any means, but they are snuggly so that makes it okay

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I agree Frog, I don't think Pooky is clear by any means, but they are snuggly so that makes it okay

What's your PoE look like, Dease?

It's not at the stage of the game where I have a PoE

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I agree Frog, I don't think Pooky is clear by any means, but they are snuggly so that makes it okay

What's your PoE look like, Dease?

It's not at the stage of the game where I have a PoE

That's a *little* sus

I think we have different ways of playing, and that's okay.

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I think I want to vote Cakez

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VOTE: SirCakez

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While I don't think the response to being called low-activity is unreasonable, the way it is presented feels overblown, in such a way that scum may do to replicate real townie feelings.

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BBT, tell me about your thoughts on Bella.

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I think I want to vote Cakez

VOTE: SirCakez

While I don't think the response to being called low-activity is unreasonable, the way it is presented feels overblown, in such a way that scum may do to replicate real townie feelings.

BBT, tell me about your thoughts on Bella.

don't like this

What do you not like about the last quote?

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I think I want to vote Cakez

VOTE: SirCakez

While I don't think the response to being called low-activity is unreasonable, the way it is presented feels overblown, in such a way that scum may do to replicate real townie feelings.

BBT, tell me about your thoughts on Bella.

don't like this

What do you not like about the last quote?

I think Bella has a low chance to be mafia. She could be SK but I also just find BBT sus and as a result don’t like your

seeming auto-trust

of him

Explain the bolded

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I’m not entirely sure that Pooky is scum.

I am also undecided on that

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We only need 2 more votes

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VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

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Cakez, walk me through your scum read on me?

I think your interactions around Lam are flat out terrible. You seem like you're trying to awkwardly defend them at points then you just rolled over and gave up and voted them. it didn't seem natural at all; it looked like a buddy giving up and trying to salvage some towncred

Can you show me where I was trying to defend them? Do you think my vote did a good job of getting me towncred?

The "do you think my vote did a good job of getting me towncred?" is sort of missing the point. What BBT thought would give them towncred is what's more important.

The defence of "would I have put my buddy at L-1 with Enchant in the game?" betrays the fact that BBT thinks this is the kind of thing that

should

get them towncred.
And the other thing about BBT saying this is that if they were town then they knew that they were effectively hammering someone (who they didn't necessarily think was scum) by voting them at L-1.

Imo much more likely that BBT voted to try and get on the wagon of the buddy (perhaps not realising that Enchant would hammer) than put someone at L-1 whose wagon they had previously been skeptical of.

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I’m a bit conflicted on Cakez at the moment. I can still see a case for him being scum and can’t exactly articulate why I think he might be town but there’s just something there that makes me expect a townflip. Maybe it’s the messiness of the posting or the lack of obvious attempt to

look

consistent in his reads and posting. I don’t know. But regardless, BBT feels like the more likely scum flip to me.

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VOTE: Pooky

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What makes you pretty sure?

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should we just mass claim atp cuz tomm is mylo most of the time no

I think so tbh

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I’ll start with this: Im pretty sure I was roleblocked n1 and it wasn’t scum

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UNVOTE: Cakez


Wait are Dease and Enchant 1v1 each other ?

We are not

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VOTE: Gamma

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VOTE: Gamma

Why this? Feels a bit poorly timed for a naked vote frankly.

I wasn’t feeling the Pooky vote anymore and wanted to try something new.

Also I’m expecting to probably(?) be confirmed as town if a massclaim occurs so looking town is really not a priority for me

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VOTE: Gamma

Why this? Feels a bit poorly timed for a naked vote frankly.

What is poorly timed about it, and why is it the nakedness that’s the issue, rather than the vote itself?

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Who is left to claim?

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Oh, just Mala

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Hmm there’s a fakeclaim somewhere here.

I am a town bodyguard who targeted MariaR n1

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Bella n2 but that’s less relevant

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I think we need to wait for Mala’s claim

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Ahhh, I didn’t realise the SK could be strongman

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Pooky, what about Mala though?

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I can only be not-town if one of gamma/enchant are also not-town

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Also why not Mala for sk?

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Ohhh I get it sorry

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For some reason I thought there was only one mafia left, but no, you’re right

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I’d like to hear Bella’s thoughts, but I am leaning more towards Bella being a checked out townie than scum currently

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@dv, I've made my reads, I feel like I'm just bored by this sk/mafia thing. Ask me questions?

I was wondering if the claims had affected anything for you!

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@dv, I've made my reads, I feel like I'm just bored by this sk/mafia thing. Ask me questions?

I was wondering if the claims had affected anything for you!

Can you point me to the claims please?

Page 22 has the important stuff imo

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Sorry Math, I did not take into account the possibility of SK being strongman when I originally claimed so thought I had either been blocked or there was a bus driver. Strongman SK is the clear answer to the fact that MariaR died.

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VOTE: Frogsterking

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@people voting Cakez, why Cakez over Mala?

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well I guess one of them is Mala so that's obvious

But idk

I feel like even if you're paranoid of Pooky, if Pooky is scum it's probably groupscum with mala

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Math, I think there is a quite reasonable chance that Frogster is SK

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Pooky even as mafia has every reason to be SK-hunting rn

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Math, I think there is a quite reasonable chance that Frogster is SK

That’s impossible.

Assume what you’re saying is true and Frog is SK

Then where is Frog’s kill?

If you say Roden where is mafia’s kill?

It’s much simpler that Frog is town and Gamma (now me) healed him.

Gamma could have healed Frogster-SK.

In regards to mafia’s kill, Frogster’s alignment is not that relevant.

Mafia very likely tried to kill Frogster, but that doesn’t mean Frogster is not SK

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I think we should kill mala

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second option is pooky

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Pooky I’m happy to listen but I’m not sure exactly what you’re proposing. We can’t flush the SK if the SK doesn’t want to be flushed

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so you'd like to run up Frogster to see what happens?

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tbf it could also be bella

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I would probably still lean Frog though?

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VOTE: Malakittens

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Malakittens
MathBlade
Frogsterking
PookyTheMagicalBear
Bellaphant
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Elim pool for SK is Pooky Bella Mala and technically Frogger.

DV do you think Mala is the SK? I’d like to hear an argument and vibe with you.

Everyone who do you think is mafia and why and who is SK and why?

I think Mala is mafia

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I think group scum are Mala/Pooky and that sk is Frogster

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I think Bella as town is more likely to miss details such as me being confirmed town. I think if she were SK or mafia she would pay more attention to that sort of thing

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Most of all I want to make sure we avoid a situation where there are 2 groupscum left

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Most of all I want to make sure we avoid a situation where there are 2 groupscum left

100% this which is why I think we go Pooky.

I don’t think he is town here. Do you think Pooky is group scum DV?

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I do, yes.

I will think about this more but I think I do agree with Math that eliminating mafia is best

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It’s better than the other option mafia has.

Say we elim SK today.

Then we have me and DV who autoprotect each other.

Mafia shoots at not conf town and they die.

So we have one VT and two conf town v 2 mafia.

That becomes win or lose tomorrow which gives at best 33% odds.

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if we elim sk

mafia shoots vt

then its 2v2 and a draw

I do not play to draw

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Math I've thought about it and I would prefer to eliminate groupscum still

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I don't really want to be too open with my reasoning though

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if you eliminate groupscum there is no way for town to win

Ur not town though so you don’t understand

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Totally agree math

Wanna kill Pooky?

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VOTE: Pooky

Mala join us!

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if we're going to lose we're going to make the town lose too

this is why you're getting eliminated

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whatever happens Math, it's been fun <3

also it's all good pooky! looking forward to seeing how it all goes down.

Vote 1 POOKY!

PEdit: You have your goals and I have mine. I'm not complaining about what you're doing, so please don't complain about what I'm doing.

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whatever happens Math, it's been fun <3

also it's all good pooky! looking forward to seeing how it all goes down.

Vote 1 POOKY!

PEdit: You have your goals and I have mine. I'm not complaining about what you're doing, so please don't complain about what I'm doing.

lol pls dont take this as a complaint i am having fun


it is better to have someone to talk with than no1 to talk with ^_^

ahh cool. Sorry for getting all srs

I'm a bit sad that we weren't able to go for the SK yesterday tbh

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@dv, you want me to vote pooky now?

I’m very happy for you to if you like! I’m not sure if anything more to wait for

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*not sure of

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Well done math!