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In post 134, Not_Mafia wrote:
That’s funny because I am the Dark AngelIn post 117, Enchant wrote:DIdn't read setup, i am Dark Angel. Powerole i guess.Wizard-Mercenary
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Nominating DA as Nobility wins game for town instantly.In post 222, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I am absolutely gonna think District Attorney every time I read DA. I blame Dick Wolf.
Is there any reason the town should even worry about the DA? They seem at worst a net neutral for town. Am I missing something?Wizard-Mercenary
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3 votes.In post 244, Toto wrote:BTW giving not_mafia and enchant 4 votes does look like the optimal play for mafia regardless of their alignment. Anyone that reaches 2 votes today can get lolhammered.
So I'd refrain from voting until we get our shit together.
Majority is 7.Wizard-Mercenary
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why you are so horrible at math.In post 267, Toto wrote:We have 1/10 chance to win today if we noble the DA.
Not mafia and enchant are not the da. Meaning the chances of them being mafia are 1/11 as opposed to 1/12 for everyone else.
11 people alive. 2 nobled.
1/8 if you exclude self. You are not Dark Angel... Right?Wizard-Mercenary
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Right now i counting what we should do.In post 294, JunkoChan wrote:
then what do you want to do?In post 293, Enchant wrote:But i don't want to sheep your not_mafia vote.Wizard-Mercenary
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Yes.In post 296, JunkoChan wrote:counting?Wizard-Mercenary
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well i am not native speaker, but i used right wordIn post 300, JunkoChan wrote:no offense but your posts feel like they've been through google translate 5 times
and I would know about that, my english is not perfect
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case?In post 304, JunkoChan wrote:good, okay, I agree, so now help me vote not_mafia, so we can kill the scum
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You underrate my powersIn post 308, JunkoChan wrote:
JunkochanIn post 307, Enchant wrote:Tell me atleast one person, who can't be cased by this.
Either way, i finish counting and then will vote.Wizard-Mercenary
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My vote silently counts as two and second vote doesh't register for majority.In post 310, Herta wrote:
I've been over and over this and this:In post 245, Toto wrote:
Wait @Enchant can you vote someone?In post 239, Marashu wrote:The hidden noble does not appear in the Vote Count.
And I can't seem to sync the two statements. The note in the VC says that the hidden noble doesn't appear in the VC, but the game instruction says that only the vote is hidden, not the hidden noble themself. At least that's the way I read it.
And then, how can the hidden noble count as one person for elimination majority but still get a regular vote plus a hidden vote?
Does anyone know of other iterations of this setup I can review? I'm not going to ask the mod yet to clarify until that's the only option left. Or can anyone explain this to me?Wizard-Mercenary
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You misunderstand.In post 314, Herta wrote:Then what's the utility of the second vote?
NM counts as TWO people alive right now. That's why there's 12 alive right now.
I count just as one, while still having two votes.Wizard-Mercenary
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It counts for elimination, it's not considered for majority.In post 316, Herta wrote:I get that, but I don't understand that if your second vote doesn't count for the elimination why have it? What does it do?
Right now there's 12 votes. NM vote counted twice. My vote counted just once, but still doubled.Wizard-Mercenary
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NM probably just OMGUSing and he is only one who voting. Others seems to be intemidated by our combined doublevote power.In post 326, Polar Bear Express wrote:HEAL: Elmo
Why are people voting Junko? I still don’t understand the srs?
@NM? @Enchant?
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Who you want to voteIn post 331, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Okay thanks, I didn’t understand why she had two votes on her.In post 330, Enchant wrote:
NM probably just OMGUSing and he is only one who voting. Others seems to be intemidated by our combined doublevote power.In post 326, Polar Bear Express wrote:HEAL: Elmo
Why are people voting Junko? I still don’t understand the srs?
@NM? @Enchant?
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I didn't express wish to vote you, but you wanted both us dead d1, so maybe makes sense.Toto wrote:I would have picked you for sure. I think not mafia picks you too. You’d pick you. Anyone setting up an elim on me would too. You are essentially an agent of chaos so why wouldn't mafia pick you lol.
More likely town than not, but it's hard to read people for me.Toto wrote:Enchant whats your read on the bear?
Either way, game so stagnant, i do this:
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After considering, i think DA is more matter of luck than really finding them. Atleast i have no idea how to search for third parties.Toto wrote:Yeah idk this game is hard to read. Do you think he is more likely to be mafia than the DA? What if he is the DA
and we accidentally take him out?
If he is DA, well, he is DA. Does it mean we need to noble everyone before killing them? Because so far, everyone can be DA. Well, except me and NM.Wizard-Mercenary
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Reminds me about this game with jester where EVERY SINGLE SCUM just acted like jester and town like "oh god they can be jester, don't lim them".
Then i just went "I don't care" and voted one of them. He was Jester. I was pissed off so much.Wizard-Mercenary
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In post 385, Freedom wrote:Actually, 16 pages is too long.
Seems to me that you read setup if you know about Dark Angel. And you also know Nobling DA is good if you suggest it.In post 386, Freedom wrote:By the way, do you think that we should be trying to make Dark Angel, the Noble?
Or is that not a good idea?
Yet you ask this question. Why?Wizard-Mercenary
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Correct. It's only theory though.In post 514, Eiralox wrote:@Enchant
so you're saying scum is in Eira, Herta, Polar, Toto, Tapiocaphobe and Junkochan?
Need to think this over.Eiralox wrote: which of these two, then, would be the most likley scum?
Need to think this over.Eiralox wrote:which of these the most likely DA?
They are not scum because we choosed them as nobles, but because how mafia acts.Eiralox wrote:why would scum nobilize N_M for a second time, forgoing a shot at an extra kill?
Elmo and N_M were made nobles my a mass process. To say they're not scum cause of this.... meh. And then there's you: Nobilizing self and then saying this exact thing is a very convenient way for scum! enchant to survive.
I am not entirily sure. Killing outside of nobles and nobling noble sounds counterintuitive. But i think nobling NM was to not give us additional information which boost our chances of nobling DA. As additional bonus, NM will abuse his vote.
They also possible thinked we will avoid going eliming outside of nobles due fear that we kill DA. So they seems to want us to elim noble while nobling someone from list above. If we do so and fail, then mafia most likely will not miss.Wizard-Mercenary
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I actually agree. Nancy loves to pocket me as scum for some reason though, so not absolutely sure.Eiralox wrote:Re bear da, bear most vt seeming one here for now. DA being bad vote town jackalin sheep skinalways a good strat tho so 95 on phobe and then all yall not nobled factored in 5
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Incorrect, i saw this post.In post 665, Polar Bear Express wrote:
How is Enchant completely ignoring this?In post 549, Tapiocaphobe wrote:VOTE: eiralox
HEAL: bears
i think there's scum in eira/junko/herta and DA in PBE/toto/junko
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I have no idea.In post 673, Polar Bear Express wrote:I think you know I’m not DA and don’t want to heal Tap because you don’t want town to win.
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Because you react rapid on my mere suggestion.In post 676, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Why am I more likely to be DA than someone who has no trs amongst the non-nobilized?In post 674, Enchant wrote:
I have no idea.In post 673, Polar Bear Express wrote:I think you know I’m not DA and don’t want to heal Tap because you don’t want town to win.
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And what did you think about what I said about Elmo - saying Porkens is town, then after he flipped town - suddenly one scum between him and NM?
You’re just pretty much ignoring everything I’m posting. Why?
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I don't care how much you point about how you played and when you did that and how you did that, value of you pointing this is zero, if not negative.
If you know how you act as town, you can fake it. I am not going to fall on this.
By the way, i have shit memory. So expectance me to remember LOST which i just brutally lurked out is funny.Wizard-Mercenary
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Mafia figured out that they get benefit in nobilizing DA so they nobilize NM who can't be DA at all.In post 683, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Because she has no trs amongst the non nobilized. She also didn’t think you were nobilized because scum thought you were DA, when it’s right there in the OP that it’s in mafia wincon to nobilze DA. I think NM could be right that maybe he got nobilized because mafia figured it out.In post 680, Enchant wrote:I still have no clue why it point at Tapio being DA.
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It doesh't make sense.Wizard-Mercenary
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But if Tap is DA, then game ends in our win and vote on me is irrelevant?In post 684, Polar Bear Express wrote:
If Elmo heals Tap, maybe I will.In post 682, Enchant wrote:Then vote me and cease with my brainwashing.
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You more fill this bill, no?In post 687, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Are you being intentionally obtuse here Enchant?In post 675, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Maybe NM is onto something with this?In post 518, Not_Mafia wrote:
How should I know? Maybe they've figured out the DA and the DA is pushing miselimsIn post 507, Eiralox wrote:
why do you think scum nobled you twice instead of hunting for DA and maybe getting a free kill? Doesn't make sense way I see it.In post 407, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm the hidden noble
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I think Eira town, not sure about Elma.In post 688, Polar Bear Express wrote:
If she’s DA and gets nobilized by mafia instead of elected we don’t win, so it’s in mafia’s interest not to elect DA and what about my Elmo/Eira reads? No opinion on any of that either?In post 686, Enchant wrote:
But if Tap is DA, then game ends in our win and vote on me is irrelevant?In post 684, Polar Bear Express wrote:
If Elmo heals Tap, maybe I will.In post 682, Enchant wrote:Then vote me and cease with my brainwashing.
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???In post 691, Polar Bear Express wrote:
I made cases, gave reasons, so you should have an opinion on what I said.In post 689, Enchant wrote:
You more fill this bill, no?In post 687, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Are you being intentionally obtuse here Enchant?In post 675, Polar Bear Express wrote:
Maybe NM is onto something with this?In post 518, Not_Mafia wrote:
How should I know? Maybe they've figured out the DA and the DA is pushing miselimsIn post 507, Eiralox wrote:
why do you think scum nobled you twice instead of hunting for DA and maybe getting a free kill? Doesn't make sense way I see it.In post 407, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm the hidden noble
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In post 694, Polar Bear Express wrote:In post 692, Enchant wrote:In post 691, Polar Bear Express wrote: