Open 175 - Picking Simplicity (Game Over)

[Toro]

/confir-my hip!

[Toro]

Single votes are anti-town. Not voting is anti-town.

So not having a vote down in RVS is enough for you to declare someone anti-town huh?

[Toro]

Yeah. For those of you wondering, by 'single vote' I meant people whose random votes on a person were unaccompanied.
Do you have anything else to say, Toro?

Yes Nik, yes I do.

So if someone doesn't join a RVS bandwagon that makes the person who initiated the random vote scummy?

FoS: Nikanor

[Toro]

I like to switch the words up.

[Toro]

Yeah, anti-town =/= scummy.
Not voting on a bandwagon is anti-town, but it sure as hell isn't a scumtell.

I don't think you've ever given your reasoning on how it's anti-town, as I'm still puzzled on how that makes anyone not on a bandwagon anti-town.

[Toro]

So if someone doesn't join a RVS bandwagon that makes the person who initiated the random vote scummy?

Sigh.
I said 'anti-town'. I did not say 'scummy'.

True, now tell me your logic.

[Toro]

dramonic, Scott Brosius, zwetschenwasser, Head_Honcho, Snow_Bunny, Vaya

There are several accusations of lurking going around, but I think that these are doing it admirably and not getting called on it.

how do you do lurking admirably?

/headdesk /headdesk/ headdesk

To switch foilist's words around, they're lurking, but not getting called on it.

[Toro]

Gimme a B!
Gimme a U!
Gimme a D!
Gimme a D!
Gimme a Y!
Gimme an I!
Gimme an N!
Gimme a G!

What's that spell!?

GOTCHA!!!

[Toro]

I had the "just joined today" thing under my name a day or 2 ago,

Congrats there soldier.

[Toro]

only when he has said stupid idiotic things though, if i had just said, "zwet is an idiot' then yes it would be out of place

But you did WarWound, in your 285 you called him an imbecile.

[Toro]

Sorry for not getting my thoughts posted yet guys, I'm rereading through the whole thread real quick.

[Toro]

After reading through the entire thread I've found our lynch candidate for the day.

Vote: WarWound

Sure the whole October 14th joindate may throw us off a bit, but do not forget WW has said that he

has

played internet mafia before, except with players that apparently aren't very bright on how to play the game, so at least WW would know how to try and appear town if he were scum. He couldn't be that bad at the game if he's played before.

Second point of my argument, I 100% do not like how Iguana and WarWound have both become complete buddies in this game, and how Iguana clears WarWound, declaring him town.

There is no way for Iguana to know who is town and who is scum, unless he has scumbuddies.

And rolling along with this argument, I've noticed how Warwound immediately started to warm up to Iguana,

when Iguana helped him out with some tips on gameplay.

This was the catalyst for when WarWound warmed up to Iguana and became an avid supporter/admirer of his. The suspicious part about this was that Yabbaguy and Skitzer both gave tips/pointers/compliments to WarWound and WarWound

did not immediately warm up to them proclaiming they're town!

It's very interesting how Iguana gets WarWound's approval because he helped him, but yet Yabba and Skitz don't get any true appreciation from WW.

So I believe I've just found 2 scumteamers (Iguana, WarWound) and I've cleared both Yabbaguy and Skitzer, but that all depends if a WarWound or Iguana lynch goes through, I prefer that we got through with a WW lynch so we could get him out of the way and it'll be easier having to sift through his posts.

[Toro]

Warwound = newbcard playing scum

Tell me zwet, does WarWound really come off to you as

playing

the newbcard? I mean,

really?

[Toro]

The game did not start at night Iguana so you couldnt've investigated him, and there are no masons, and if you were claiming VT earlier then I doubt that you know who WarWound really is, or do you...scum?

And thank you for switching my words around Iguana, I said I've only cleared Yabbaguy and Skitzer

IF

WarWound comes up Scum if we lynch him.

[Toro]

DISCLAIMER:

I don't have my notes in front of me atm as I'm currently on a friend's computer, so for me to go back it might be a bit hard to remember bits and details.

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With the points I brought up on WarWound I feel that we could go with either WW or Iguana, but I have a feeling that WarWound will slip up more easily.

@Iguana:

How is WarWound reading town to you? Show me where you've got a town-read on him.

[Toro]

Oh the horror

[Toro]

With the points I brought up on WarWound I feel that we could go with either WW or Iguana, but I have a feeling that WarWound will slip up more easily.[/color]

I thought so. This bugs me because you are pushing the easy case. Am I right in interpreting that you think we have the exact same chance of being scum?

@Iguana:

How is WarWound reading town to you? Show me where you've got a town-read on him.

Gut and weak town tells. I explained this once already. We arent lynching him today if I have any say in the matter.

brestfeedin

You shouldn't be breastfeeding while drunk.

Actually more concerning is that his/her gender icon used to be male

From my PoV you two have a very

high

chance of being scum, judging from your play.

[Toro]

Wasn't the bandwagon on 12keyblade because he was active lurking? That really isn't something that should be carried on over to Antihero, unless he does it too. Then I'd be really willing to put my vote on him.

I don't think 12Keyblade has even been around the whole forum for awhile actually, unless someone wants to point me towards a source that says otherwise. So I wouldn't really call it active lurking.

I'm confused. You should be agreeing with this, seeing your case a few posts up from the above quoted one. zwet's statement basically matches the first point of your case on WW.

Don't know what I was thinking in that post, as I now wholeheartedly agree with zwet's logic.

[Toro]

Look. He was scummy when he was here. I voted him. He started to lurk. Other people did scummy things. Key wasn't here to do scummy things, so other people being scummy and him not being scummy doesn't mean other people are scummier than him. If I were to change my vote, I'd effectively be unvoting Key simply because he's lurking. Because I don't view lurking as a towntell, I'm not going to unvote Key, who I felt was a scummy player. Make sense?

Please don't tell me this is your excuse for being the only reason why you've been on 12Keyblade for

one whole week.

[Toro]

Right now, the three scummiest looking people to me are Col.Cathart, Nikanor, and Blastinus.

Vote: Blastinus

Given they exchange they had, I doubt Nikanor and Blastinus are scum together. The interaction was way too obvious for both of them to be scum.

Anyone on the back part of Keyblade's wagon for lurking is scummy since he has a replacement at the moment. Obviously we don't forget whatever happened. (Directed at Blast and WW).

I really don't like CC's 401. Another instance of the "D1 is too hard esp in big games" excuse to not scum-hunt.

Question is if they might've tried to make it that way Scott, major WIFOM.

I could say I'm surprised... then again not really.

More votes should be on the Iguana-FF scumpair

I'm still content where my vote's at, I think everyone should be on my bandwagon.

[Toro]

After reading through the entire thread I've found our lynch candidate for the day.

Vote: WarWound

Sure the whole October 14th joindate may throw us off a bit, but do not forget WW has said that he

has

played internet mafia before, except with players that apparently aren't very bright on how to play the game, so at least WW would know how to try and appear town if he were scum. He couldn't be that bad at the game if he's played before.

Second point of my argument, I 100% do not like how Iguana and WarWound have both become complete buddies in this game, and how Iguana clears WarWound, declaring him town.

There is no way for Iguana to know who is town and who is scum, unless he has scumbuddies.

And rolling along with this argument, I've noticed how Warwound immediately started to warm up to Iguana,

when Iguana helped him out with some tips on gameplay.

This was the catalyst for when WarWound warmed up to Iguana and became an avid supporter/admirer of his. The suspicious part about this was that Yabbaguy and Skitzer both gave tips/pointers/compliments to WarWound and WarWound

did not immediately warm up to them proclaiming they're town!

It's very interesting how Iguana gets WarWound's approval because he helped him, but yet Yabba and Skitz don't get any true appreciation from WW.

So I believe I've just found 2 scumteamers (Iguana, WarWound) and I've cleared both Yabbaguy and Skitzer, but that all depends if a WarWound or Iguana lynch goes through, I prefer that we got through with a WW lynch so we could get him out of the way and it'll be easier having to sift through his posts.

There you go WW.

[Toro]

I can use correct punctuation, scum hunting.. not so sure.

Really? Then GTFO.

[Toro]

I can use correct punctuation, scum hunting.. not so sure.

Really? Then GTFO.

How crude.

Honestly, if you're not going to benefit the town in any way, shape, or form, replace out and sign up for a newbie game. You're not playing with your Warcraft 3 buddies here.

[Toro]

Man the way yabbaguy just switched his vote over to AH is definitely looking scummy to me, you just built up your case on Nikanor, and your abandoning it to vote AntiHero? I mean really?

@Nikanor:

Just to clarify about that whole 'First to 10 Posts' thing, that thing was presumably a RVS joke right? I'm pretty sure it was on the 2nd/3rd page so I never really cared about the whole 10 post deal.

[Toro]

Anti-town lynches are not good D1. Usually the player in question who is anti-town has not had enough interactions to get any information from it later on. If people continue being a liability, further days are appropriate to address this. Finding the scummiest, not most anti-town player should be our goal D1.

Scott, who do you think are the scummiest players so far?

[Toro]

Catching up.

[Toro]

a policy lynch does seem to be in order

unvote: vote Zwet

Rolling with the bandwagon when not doing much scumhunting, hmm, more scumpoints on you.

[Toro]

a policy lynch does seem to be in order

unvote: vote Zwet

Rolling with the bandwagon when not doing much scumhunting, hmm, more scumpoints on you.

ive been saying zwet hasnt been doing crap all game... or for most of it...

Oh the irony.

[Toro]

ha its funny none take notice of toro's accusations against me , I find it to be humorous

Overconfident much?

[Toro]

Are you 100% sure that yabbaguy is town?

[Toro]

Prod received.

Upon the whole zwet situation, I feel as if he has been playing anti-town as well going through his posts. I've got a bad feeling about Skitzer stalling though, stalling to me is a huge scum-tell.

Zwet seems like a lynch I'd like though.

Unvote

,

Vote: Zwet

[Toro]

Gamegoogoogogo

vote skitzer

Go go gadget wagon!

Friend turned 21 this weekend, I actually dont even remember that post I made saturday, but I do like my reads in it. Will try and make a case in a few days.

Am I missing something, or are we about to spend Day 2 doing another RVS?

[Toro]

You know what? This game needs a swift kick in the head.

Vote: WarWound

[Toro]

Vote Antihero

Pomegranate and Toro are probably scum too.

Any reasons for you thinking this?

[Toro]

Does my vote move over?