Me cuz I'm voting for you.XScorpion: Who do you expect to be lynched first in this game, and why?
Why am I voting for you? I dunno. Just cuz.
I had no school today, so I was waiting around all day for your game to start.
You were waiting around all day...but didn't have enough time? What's up with that?Well, Zach, I was planning on providing another method of discussion, but I had to leave for dance class soon, and didn't have time to come up with one.
Surely you didn't actually believe that everyone was going to agree and cancel out the RVS?Obviously, no one had random voted, I would have chosen to vote for a different reason.
The only reason it promoted discussion is because people saw her as suspicious for trying to discourage one of the most common ways to begin discussion.Quick question for both. How is it what she did, did not promote discussion?
Does this mean my vote for you had reasoning? Also, do you think Lowell's vote is scummier than MrSuave's absence?Hmmm. Hard question to answer, since only about half of us are here, but I’d choose Lowell, because I don’t like votes without reasoning on page 1 unless they’re early bandwagoning.
I am suspicious about someone being the first in the thread to mention power roles, even in this context....which is why I didn't ask things like "What's your favorite power role: cop, doctor, or vig?"...
Would you like to explain why you don't want to give any suggestions of what is best for town?You're asking me to figure out what you should do next for you? o.O
For a better plan to exist, you would have to actually give one to compare it to. Did you simply start the RQS just to generate discussion, and let the rest of town decide what to do with the results?Since I apparently fail so much, what better plan would you like to grace us with?
This does not answer my question. Did you actually suspect that the latter case (no one RVs) was likely to happen?If people did continue to RV, I, as I did, would vote the first person to random vote. If no one did RV, I would have chosen to vote for a different reason. Why was this not obvious?
WIFOM, and I'm really basing this on my last game... a goon disrupted RVS and started a RQ(uestion)S with the purpose of trying to gather information about town for the scum to use. He got lynched day 1 (due to my preemptive hammer vote), so I'm leaning towards the same thing going on here.IMO it would be stupid for scum to put themselves in the spotlight at the very beginning of the game. That's exactly what they're trying NOT to do.
This is just a gut feeling on my part. Like I said, "even in this context" where it really isn't that scummy to be mentioning roles, I just have a hunch.How, in context, do you think what I said would lead to rolefishing, especially since I didn't continue to push talking about power roles?
I'm not incredibly concerned about scum going under the radar, but I think others should give it some thought. As I said, if I was scum I would have easily made it through day 1 already without anyone seriously questioning me.Also, if you're so concerned with scum going under the radar, why did you vote me, the player currently most mentioned, besides, perhaps, MrSuave?
I tend to have more success in catching scum when the scum in question is attacking me...maybe this only happens in newbie games, but every scum I've caught so far was caught after he/she attacked me. It seems that general opinion here is that scum aren't going to fall for that this time around. I suspect that what I did might have generated more discussion if you hadn't been drawing so much attention already.And finally, WHY DIDN'T YOU READ THE ENTIRE THREAD?
His questions were somewhat more scummy than yours ("What would you do in X situation?"), but the general idea is there.What kinds of questions did he ask?
While I didn't expect EVERYONE to come down on me, there is usually at least a few people who put pressure on lurkers...I'm surprised that there is nothing like that going on in this game. I do not believe that all scum are thoroughly mentioned, but I believe it likely that at least one of them is. Obviously I would feel more comfortable if there were no lurkers, but I realize that such a situation is very unlikely on day 1.If you are not concerned about it, why do you think others would be? Do you believe all the scum are people thoroughly mentioned? If so, why would you be trying to tell people something you don't believe?
I don't believe it is very productive to speculate on what scum might or might not say to get information about town.Which of my questions in particular think are information about town for the scum to use? How would they be more helpful to scum than town?
No, but on the flip-side, I have no reasons to believe that your play is more town than scum.Do you have any reasons to believe that I play scum the same way the guy you're talking about does?
As town, I've found that most lynches on me have actually been lead by scum...go figure.How often do town players attack you?
Apologies, not used to this format.Also, there's 3 scum in this setup. Where's the missing number coming from?
I think all of the questions you've asked could be potentially useful to scum, particularly your questions along the lines of "is XX scummy". If you were town, you wouldn't need to know what other people think is scummy - only scum care about whether their actions might appear to be scummy or not.Basically, I want you to explain which of my questions you think someone who is not town would ask.
Town players usually don't initiate attacks on me except when I am scum.That's not really what I asked.
Blatant buddying.very strong townvibes coming from yabba.
I like how Lowell comments on people showing up, when both zach and Suave have been more active than him. Also I don't like bandwagon votes that have basically no logic behind them.unvote, vote MrSuave. Bandwagon. I'll give zach credit for showing up at least. Suave has an attitude on the rare occasions he does participate.
I share Zach's opinion that:unvote, vote zach. 39 and 41, taken together, rub me the wrong way. 39 is meta and 41 is defensive and meta.
Does this suggest possible Lowell/Kitty pair? Maybe.See, my thought when I see a question like that is that of a scum player who wants to know what NOT TO DO in a mafia game, a scum player who might be paticularly worried about being caught by a specific player.
As I said before, I don't see how this question.helps town.What is the scummiest action you can think of off the top of your head, and why?
I agree with this.See, my thought when I see a question like that is that of a scum player who wants to know what NOT TO DO in a mafia game, a scum player who might be paticularly worried about being caught by a specific player.
So basically, Lowell is suggesting that Zach's argument against you is meta and grounds for being scum. In other words, he is defending you.unvote, vote zach. 39 and 41, taken together, rub me the wrong way. 39 is meta and 41 is defensive and meta.
They are not the same thing, by a long shot. I want a guilty result from a cop, not for everyone to engage in a crazy strategy that does not benefit town.In short I found only minimumal scum hunting from him, with WIFOM and then trying to an attempt a soft claim from the cops to calling lowell scum for doing almost the same thing.
Honestly doesn't matter that much to me but if you guys want discussion then by all means...as long as Lowell dies today I'm happy. The only thing I DON'T want to hear today is a suggestion that we lynch anyone else.nikanor wrote:b) You were just rushing the day. Why do you make it sound like you want to wait now?
This. In the words of Grand Moff Tarkin,Zachrulez wrote:What's the point of this?StrangerCoug wrote:Why do I have the sneaking suspicion that XScorpion is trying to stall discussion of a lynch of anyone other than Lowell? I mean, yeah, I want Lowell dead, but why are the other avenues closed? I don't get it.
Is there someone else we should be considering lynching?
It's highly unlikely scum bussed farside to L-1, given that I don't see why he was worth bussing over obv. scum Lowell.Grand Moff Tarkin wrote:You Would Prefer A Different Target? A Military Target, Perhaps? Then Name The System!
I echo nhammen's opinion that this is likely him hinting at his investigation targets (with town results). Obviously at least one of the 3 of us wasn't investigated, making me think that his N1 investigation was me and his N2 was Nikanor.zach wrote:
I think Nikanor, Kittymo, and Xscorpion are town.
Right-o, but I feel like voting for someone and Mr. Suave has a vote already.KittyMo wrote:Doesn't seem like very strong reasoning considering we've had 28 pages of information, and you just said you wanted to lynch SC...XScorpion wrote:Kitty wagon is too strong, I will push the other one.
Vote: Mr. Suave
'Cuz Zach said.
Yes it makes sense if I'm scum.KittyMo wrote:I really, really dislike XScorpion's attitude, because I don't understand why he's in such a "wheeeee let's do random crap" mood like it's still the RVS. It would make sense if he's scum because he's generally not been being pressured the entire game, and the lynch yesterday definitely would up scum morale.
Gaaaah.