Open 212--Hard Boiled Mafia (Game Over)

[RayFrost]

Vote: RayFrost

for always being scum.

You are just bitter that I am awesome as scum and you can't catch me.

No random vote from me. [/METABREAKER + COMBOBREAKER]

[RayFrost]

What is your belief on policy lynching?

Do you think scum or town lurk more and why?

How active would you say you are in a typical mafia game?

I use policy lynches as a guise to start bandwagons and such depending on my mood, but I don't really ever push a

policy lynch

. So I guess it's just me going fishing... :/

It's a null tell for flaking, but active lurking is scummy (it's one of my top scum traits from games I've won as scum... )

I'm moderately active, though my activity changes due to rl stuff. For example, I had to replace out of two games because of the stress and time-consumption of a case study I had to write a bit ago.

[RayFrost]

What is your belief on policy lynching?

Not appropriate in this small of a game.

Do you think scum or town lurk more and why?

Depends on player's meta. Some players in general lurk more than others regardless of alignment. I agree with you that active lurking is scummy, though.

How active would you say you are in a typical mafia game?

It depends on how busy I am, but I try to post at least once a day.

^---- aaaaaaaallllllllltttttttt

just sayin'

[RayFrost]

Everybody should explain why they are voting who they are voting.

Everybody not voting should explain why they aren't voting.

I'm not voting because I didn't take part in the RVS, and I haven't found anything scummy yet.

[RayFrost]

I'm voting for ABR because I like to see him talk and get him motivated early. Plus so far I'm pretty good with reading him and the more he talks the better feel I can get from him.

so far, this is the only vote explanation I feel is even remotely good.

vote: MysteriousMysteryMan

not contributing to the scumhunting = scummy

start being useful or die. (I chose you over [insert majority of player list here] because of secret reasoning that is too awesome to disclose)

[RayFrost]

Ray are you avoiding putting pressure on semi and if not why not mention semi doing the same thing with his vote?

I know MMM better than semi. More info this way.

Mindgamer's vote is terrible, btw.

[RayFrost]

Cases have been made, would you disagree that it (the RVS) is over?

[RayFrost]

So Ray, about that thing.

?

[RayFrost]

You are just bitter that I am awesome as scum and you can't catch me.

Last I heard (from you) you're terrible as scum. I wonder which game you're lying in.

unvote vote RayFrost

My post to them was a joke here.

And that game was in the past.

I've improved my scum game since then.

And it was mostly a joke about newbieland (game where I got lynched for being obv scum but distanced so well from my partner that they lived and we won)

[RayFrost]

Game is ongoing and is still Day 1.

I have no idea which game you are talking about.

Sorry~

[RayFrost]

Yeah, I think we're about out of RVS now. As I said, my current suspicions are on Bio Hazard, maybe RayFrost.

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[RayFrost]

Mini 934.

oh.

I'm lying in both.

My play as scum is decent, not good or bad.

boo yah.

[RayFrost]

I think you're telling the truth in one and that this is an obvious lie to cover up which.

Then you gotta lynch me.

Good to know that I can say two diff things as town and get caught out on it. :/

srsly, my opinion of my play varies. some days I think I'm uber 1337 superstar invincible jackshit scumhunter / mafioso extraordinaire

other days I think I'm just bad.

[RayFrost]

Eeehhh, for me, it's really just that I have different opinions of my play at different points of time.

[RayFrost]

Yeah, I think we're about out of RVS now. As I said, my current suspicions are on Bio Hazard, maybe RayFrost.

OMGUS?

technically I can see more frustration reasoning with Ray. So far he's voting you for it seems reaction

Ythan are you making a point?

I sincerely believe that MMM is scum.

Him acting placatingly to me while also saying I'm suspicious is scummy.

[RayFrost]

Somewhere between lynch all liars and there's a roughly 50% chance this is the thread he's lying in.

Sooo... policy lynch + gambling?

[RayFrost]

ell oh ell, reasoning is tech, mindgamer.

Excuse me, what does tech mean?

I'm still waiting for the answer.
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'super useful'

and I usually say that when

YOU DO NOT GIVE ANY

[RayFrost]

@ Mindgamer: The problem is not just that it's a few votes, the problem is that it's quite early for serious votes. I'm not saying that chatting is good or bad, but it's what everyone seems to be doing. The fact that BH and RF are not is suspicious.

...

I have 16 posts

You have 14.

If anything, your own logic would say you are the scummier individual, since you are 'chatting' less.

[RayFrost]

@ RayFrost: So far, my play has been less serious than yours. I don't see what the number of posts has to do with it, I'm not lurking.

I was proving that your 'omfg, Ray is scummy for not chatting' point was complete BS considering that I've posted more than you have (aka, I've chatted more).

[RayFrost]

By the by, chauchau's new avatar isn't as cool as her old one.

[RayFrost]

RayFrost: Scummy read. Freaked out a little about a multitude of RVS votes (which I think should not be taken seriously) and never did much other than argue with Ythan. My gut is just sensing something fishy here.

ummm... wut?

I didn't 'freak out' over a multitude of random votes.

And how, exactly, have I not done much other than argue with ythan? For one, I've argued with MMM as well, stating that he's scummy.

I would also like to know how me 'freaking out' over something you think should not be taken seriously is scummy.

I would also like to know how you can go 'reasons' and then go 'my gut is

just sensing something fishy

' as if you had no idea, but you just had a feeling.

[RayFrost]

I could've sworn I posted yesterday...

sorry aobut that.

/prodresponse

[RayFrost]

evil pst 96 why the unvote? Who do you think is scum and why?

I unvoted because I am getting a good vibe from RayFrost. My top scum suspect at the time was MMM, but I felt it was a little early to put on a fourth vote. I thought it'd be more useful to create pressure elsewhere.

evil post 138 please ignore post 131 above. Does ythan strike you as scummier then MMM? What reason's would that be if so?

Hmm.. they both strike me as scummy. When I first voted Ythan, he seemed a little less scummy than MMM, to be perfectly honest. But the fact that Nick's posts have also been scummy increases my confidence in that read. So, atm, I think Ythan/Nick is scummier.

How are you getting a good vibe from me when I've hardly even posted in this game?

Can you go into more detail with that?

What about nick/ythan's posting is scummy to you?

[RayFrost]

roflmao.

Me?

Nervous?

Do you know who you are talking about?

The thought of me being 'nervous' is so laughable that it's pathetic.

'acting out more than usual' is hardly a tell when

you have not seen my scum play to determine if I act out more than usual

. Your half-baked meta is pathetic.

And ythan being aggressive is part of his style as town or scum, as far as I've seen, so I disagree with that point.

I don't see how pressuring for a lynch is a bad thing.

I also notice a distinct lack of support for your town reads (contrast with your scum reads), care to put them into more detail?

[RayFrost]

Yeah, um, this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. The whole splitting your statements

on separate lines

is really annoying.

And, by you're "Do you know who you are talking about?" comment, I guess you have the impression you are a really cool, together guy. But I'm seeing less of Ford Prefect and more Arthur Dent in your posts. You look like you are trying your best not to look nervous. And the thing about pressuring for a lynch made me laugh. The whole point is that BH has been pressuring for a lynch since his first post. That is a bad thing. As for my town reads, in this case, town is usually just a lack of scumminess, as I said earlier.

Annoying != scummy

Try again.

And I'm obviously a really cool guy. I mean, my name has frost in it, how can I

not

be cool? In all seriousness, can you point out any evidence to show that I am, in fact, actively attempting to hide any form of nervousness? Also, would you be willing to prove that I would, in fact, be nervous as scum? I mean, if you think about it, I've played enough scum games to IC based purely off of those. Why would I be nervous about playing as scum? I have experience in doing so, I am not innately a nervous individual, and you haven't really brought any evidence forth that I am, in fact, nervous-posting.

Baseless accusations are scummy.

[RayFrost]

active lurking is scummy (it's one of my top scum traits from games I've won as scum...

Now, why would you say that? I can think of two reasons.

1. You are town, and this a rather thin ploy to make you look town.

2. You are scum, and you are using this as a controlled meta, by posting a lot you will convince everyone you are town.

WROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG.

I was using a personal meta reference as a starting place in order to show some support for the active lurking is scummy argument.

Plus, I have to be posting for me to be active lurking, so the quantity of my posts would have no effect on the likelihood of you viewing me as town/scum.

Noice misrepresentation of that, though.

By the way, misrepresentation is scummy.

Moar MMM votes.

[RayFrost]

The MMM wagon needs more support.

Join the wagon and get cookies (and a scum lynch!)

[RayFrost]

unvote, vote: nickf227

1. secret reasons

2. deadline, majority = good

3. I want to be surprising.