Open 212--Hard Boiled Mafia (Game Over)

[Ythan]

Hey guys I'm replacing Al.

[Ythan]

You are just bitter that I am awesome as scum and you can't catch me.

Last I heard (from you) you're terrible as scum. I wonder which game you're lying in.

unvote vote RayFrost

What is your belief on policy lynching?
Do you think scum or town lurk more and why?
How active would you say you are in a typical mafia game?

To be used to choose between players tied for scummiest.
Plain lurking, don't see a trend in either direction.
To a fault.

[Ythan]

Can you be more specific regarding what you're hoping to achieve with your vote?

[Ythan]

I just wanted into an open I swear I didn't know you were here.

[Ythan]

It was in another game. I didn't really understand what was going on with Bio/MMM, I'll go review.

[Ythan]

Seems that Bio may have been pushing a small incident.

[Ythan]

Mini 934.

[Ythan]

So Ray, about that thing.

[Ythan]

You are just bitter that I am awesome as scum and you can't catch me.

Last I heard (from you) you're terrible as scum. I wonder which game you're lying in.

unvote vote RayFrost

[Ythan]

Game is ongoing and is still Day 1.

[Ythan]

Mini 934.

[Ythan]

I think you're telling the truth in one and that this is an obvious lie to cover up which.

[Ythan]

To be fair it's two opposite things.

[Ythan]

You are just bitter that I am awesome as scum and you can't catch me.

Last I heard (from you) you're terrible as scum. I wonder which game you're lying in.

[Ythan]

He said one thing in one game and contradicted himself here. I don't see a problem with taking notice of this.

[Ythan]

All meta comes from somewhere else. I'm not influencing that game in any way and the purpose of the rule is to prevent such.

[Ythan]

I was asked my opinion on the matter.

[Ythan]

Would it be acceptable to say that I have secret evidence that he's contradicting himself?

[Ythan]

Somewhere between lynch all liars and there's a roughly 50% chance this is the thread he's lying in.

[Ythan]

Somewhere between I'm not pushing a policy lynch at all and I like having a vote out.

[Ythan]

Anyone arguing that page 3 votes that were also made in a player's second post are too weak needs to play more mafia.

[Ythan]

That's a terrible argument. Your whole basis is that he would be unable to defend himself without even addressing the content once. I hope you're just dense.

[Ythan]

Your whole basis is that he would be unable to defend himself

and you

don't even address the content once.

In case that was confusing.

[Ythan]

And I'm obv town.

[Ythan]

If you're going to place a vote with no meaning whatsoever you need some sort of explanation.

unvote vote semioldguy

Or this happens.

[Ythan]

Making a case against a player even partially based upon another ongoing game is poor play as RayFrost wouldn't even be able to defend himself without discussing that game.

You think it's poor play because he can't defend himself. Content unimportant.

You apparent insistence to continue using this line of thought even after your warning is scummy to me because it is a dead end as people can't really comment on it.

And you even say it's scummy. You don't say why, unless you count what you did say, and I don't because it's very wrong and meaningless.

Look elsewhere or come up with a case based upon this game.

Reading is a pretty big part of this game.

[Ythan]

You seem to be completely missing that I have my own knowledge of the player's meta and it's perfectly acceptable for me to base my own actions off of that, even if I can't discuss it for the benefit of other players.

[Ythan]

I am looking, actually. I know my reputation precedes me but don't expect me to find

every

scum in five pages, k?

[Ythan]

Making sure the reasoning for my vote was clear, even if I couldn't go into the intimate details.

[Ythan]

You fail to see how lying is a scum tell?

For the obv town comment use context. It was plainly a joke. Context.

[Ythan]

Vote: Ythan

Reasoning is tech.

Discussing the content of an ongoing game will result in a modkill. Are you trying to pull a 'SIR CYANIDE'?

I'm hoping that by the end of this post you will have finally come to understand that I'm not trying to spark discussion on this topic. I have my information and I can damn well use it to support my own vote, whether or not I'm allowed to share it with you. I have this on my clipboard if I need to paste it into a few more replies.

Hmm... I call sentences like these a strong scumtell. And I'm willing to vote for it.

Reasoning is tech. You lack it, and also context.

No reason at all? Quite scummy. I'd like to know your reason for voting Ythan, and I'd also like to know why you chose not to include the reason in your post.

You think yours is better just because it has a meaningless, fake reason?

ythan: How do you expect a player to address something that you find scummy do to an ongoing game?

I. Do. Not. It might not seem fair that he's not allowed to defend himself but on the bright side I'm not allowed to push it. You get that it is information that I have and can use myself?

I really feel like going to the mod in the other game and letting him know your using an ongoing game to lynch a player in this game. It's just tacky and frankly you leave a bad taste in my mouth as a player right now.

There's no reason for this. I'm not breaking any rules, I'm just using my own knowledge to influence my play. The only difference is that I am not allowed to speak about it openly. But, again again again, that doesn't mean I have to block it out of my own mind. I don't see what you're so worried about unless you honestly think that the town is going to lynch him over my hearsay.

@ Ythan: Your reasoning for RayFrost is suspect, it's a bad idea to base votes for one game on a game that hasn't finished. You don't know what his role is. He made a remark about how he is good as scum, what does that matter? It doesn't look scummy to me.

A vote is better than no vote to me. Show me a better case and my vote will follow it. For right now I'm putting it where I please.

[Ythan]

Acceptable.

[Ythan]

And then I said more or less "We're on page five."

Not much different now that we're on page six. You point out something to which you think I should have responded and we'll talk.

[Ythan]

Lol.