Open 253: Sea Container C9++ [GAME OVER]

[Antihero]

Hello Nexus, havingfitz, rudeboy. =D

Rereading...

[Antihero]

OK, so I read through the game and my current top 3 scumspects are jmj, Mafuyu, and Alduskkel. Alduskkel and Mafuyu are following the same pattern of posting: no specific content and crappy generalities. jmj is scum because SA called him down D1 and he responded by not scumhunting and OMGUSing.

My top pick is jmj, so I'm voting him, but I'll go for a lynch of any of those 3.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: jmj3000

[Antihero]

so in conclusion, your starting a new wagon, hoping for another claim, whilst thsoe ppl are still voting for me.
pfft

[Antihero]

Here, let me walk you all through why jmj3000 needs to be the lynch today.

Post 15: Immediate dismissiveness without any other thoughts. This looks like scum overreaction to me.
Post 28: I think this is the 3rd post in a row where he desperately tries to discredit SA without adding anything new (yeah, I know it's page 2, but why is jmj trying so hard to fight this thought that SA threw out there? Does this conversation say anything about SA's, or anyone else's, alignment? jmj doesn't say)
Post 36: This is classic WIFOM.
Post 58: jmj telling anyone to stop actively lurking is pretty hypocritical to me.
Post 91: Yeah, SA is preventing you from scumhunting.
Post 220: OK......... so what conclusions have you drawn so far even without the answer? This is a giant fencesit.
Post 322: Nitpicking much?

Conclusion: jmj has just been defending himself+active lurking this whole game and now he's trying to nitpick his way onto an andrew lynch.

antihero its 1 day to the deadline ..

We have 24 hours still. 4 votes in that that timeframe isn't unreasonable.

COME ON, PEOPLE.

[Antihero]

With deadline coming up, I'm not seeing any other options.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: andrew

[Antihero]

to be a mason is an understatement.
to get lynched as an innocent child is just fail

If you really are an innocent child, why didn't you have the mod confirm you earlier? [/frustrated]

[Antihero]

Yeah, the mod had nothing to do with this. andrew didn't claim, so the mod couldn't confirm him.

[Antihero]

After some review of the game, I've changed my opinion of a few people. Most notably havingfitz.

Scum: jmj, Alduskkel
Town: havingfitz, BA, Nexus

jmj: There was absolutely no reason to not believe andrew in the twilight of yesterday. I think you overdid your bussing, there.
Alduskkel: Reasons already stated in my catch-up post.

I'm /in for an Ald lynch today.

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Antihero]

Oh, please, don't try to nitpick at semantics with me. You can bus and not vote.

And if you've played with andrew before, you know to expect anything from him.

[Antihero]

Of course I didn't need a lot of convincing, I already convinced myself.

[Antihero]

antihero just says I think people x, y, and z are scummy. Lets vote for z. I didn't see any reason for it.

Now, if you actually read my post, you'll see that this quite simply isn't true.

Also, I like how you pick 7 posts out of my ISO and use them to paint me in a scum light. It isn't working, but good try.

What, like there are 1 million posts in your ISO? Up until my catchup, there were 16. Take away a few non-content posts and there are even fewer. 7 posts isn't just a little sliver of your ISO.

[Antihero]

I don't have time to walk you through jmj, but the reason I'm not liking him is because he defended himself to the exclusion of everything else, including scumhunting.

And no, I didn't find andrew supicious yesterday, especially after seeing the mason claim (which I wouldn't think would be a good roleclaim for scum as it's easy to eventually prove/disprove). As for the hammer, I just hammered because it was near deadline and we needed a lynch. I don't see how anyone, scum or town, would expect any towncred from it.

I'm looking through Ald's ISO again, and I'm wondering where you all are finding the content. One of the few places where I did find content was where Ald jumps on mothrax, who seemed like an easy target at the time.

[Antihero]

Exactly, and if a mason buddy doesn't come out

eventually

, that looks pretty bad.

[Antihero]

Two scum fakeclaiming two masons is a pretty ballsy gambit, and after both of them aren't NKed for a few nights, I think it would start looking fishy.

[Antihero]

@Antihero: Buying themselves a few nights might bed all the mafia needs. And masons wouldn't really be a high-priority mafia target anyway would they?

Theoretically, yes, but IN PRACTICE, how many scum have you seen claim mason and get away with it?

[Antihero]

I don't even think half the playerlist has posted anything real today.

The pace of this game = glacial

[Antihero]

havingfitz, there was a no-kill last night. Unless the SK just failed to send in a kill, I'm pretty sure there's no SK.

[Antihero]

Your attack on havingfitz fails. Not seeing any fencesitting there.

Would you like to try again?

[Antihero]

No vote?

That's also not what HF was talking about, either.

[Antihero]

Also, welcome back a2. I like your post to an extent, though i want to checknsome stuff before removing my vote. Which I can't do without a computer.

Well, I'm curious to see what you like about it.

[Antihero]

the fact that he actually posted content instead of questions like usually. He makes a valid point about nexus, though Nexus has been posting contributory posts in earlier days. That being said it wasn't so much of a case as a calling out. I would think. I also dont like post 384. one because havingfitz votes for ald because he was on the wagon then says he iso'd him and got off. That was my original reason to be suspicious (not too much though). Also I think the numbers are a bit skewed because you never checked how many people replaced out as town (which could be important since I'd guess the ratio is almost the same). While he does seem indecisive, it isn't really enough to make a vote just for that. However the rest of it added on makes him seems scummy. the posts weren't great but they were better than nothing. Enough to make me

unvote.

Seriously?

mongoose, are you scum?

[Antihero]

I'm ignoring it, because going through it isn't going to be helpful as you pretty much said "nuh uh."

Do you not have anything else to say? About anything?

[Antihero]

Seriously, what do you think I'm going to say that I haven't said already. I'm not playing your tunnel/text wall game. You think that's scummy? I don't care.

[Antihero]

vote:antihero

your responses keep getting scummier and scummier

Responses to whom? You? jmj? Slap as many votes on me as you want, I'm still not playing jmj's game.

The number of people not voting is unacceptable. And how did Alduskkel get off the hook?

[Antihero]

Obtuse about what?

[Antihero]

Being angry = not a scumtell

Do I need to claim now? I'm thinking so, since I'm under heavy suspicion for some odd reason.

[Antihero]

I'm tempted to vote antihero too. At least respect other player's inquiries.

Um, no?

Who are your top two suspects just in case you are today’s lynch.

Well, I'm not going to be today's lynch, but they're Ald and jmj (followed closely by a2, whos vote is obviously out of self preservation).

At this lazy pace, I'm claiming in my next post unless someone objects.

[Antihero]

Who are your top two suspects just in case you are today’s lynch.

Well, I'm not going to be today's lynch, but they're Ald and jmj (followed closely by a2, whos vote is obviously out of self preservation).

At this lazy pace, I'm claiming in my next post unless someone objects.

What makes you so sure you aren't going to be today's lynch? That's some misguided arrogance if I do say. And if you are so sure you aren't the lynch...why would you claim? You seem awfully set on claiming despite a general lack of interest from anyone else in the game.

I'm sure I won't be because of the claim.

[Antihero]

I'm a doc. I saved havingfitz last night, mostly because of his twilight posting (that's why I defended him from a2's attacks, and why my attitude about him took a 180).

[Antihero]

Yes, given that we already had a RB flip.

[Antihero]

Kat protected Mafuyu N0 and a2rudeboy (why?) N1.

[Antihero]

I really don't know whether I want to unvote yet.

But a2 did...

I believe antihero. It fits his behavior and no one has counter claimed (except for ald, but thats a chance we can take. And even if they did claim there is a chance to have 2 docs so I believe the claim)

Having fitz: ^that is why it is useful. And the structure of the game interests me and I was kinda curious. It doesn't hurt though.

Also, I am voting Nexus because he hasn't provided a single piece of useful information. At least, since today started. I think we have to lynch him or a2, and I'm leaning towards the former. a2's apparently always acts like this and he gave a decent post when asked. Nexus also advocated lynching ald, which imo is scummy since he cant defend himself.

Im pretty sure I dont have a vote out.

vote nexus

Decent posts? You'll have to show me those sometime.

I still hate Ald's earlier play, but right now, I'm not liking either a2 or mongoose.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

Look at everyone's reaction to my claim. No one immediately unvoted (and without saying anything else), except a2. The implication of that is that he knows I'm telling the truth.

[Antihero]

so, rudeboy, how about a claim from you?

[Antihero]

prod avoidance. case on nexus, soon.

oh, how predictable.

I'm tempted to hammer right now, but I want a claim.

[Antihero]

Oh, I forgot that a2 isn't actually at L1. Let me fix that.

VOTE: a2rudeboy

Now claim.

[Antihero]

Mod: I'm voting a2rudeboy

[Antihero]

I usually stick to about 3 games max as well. 3 would work well with the pace of this game, but considering its exam season and then the trip I mentioned, I am sticking to one for now. Also,

unvote vote A2

just to make sure

Don't you think it's a bit late to bus?

[Antihero]

oh lol

BA had me completely fooled

good thing I died

[Antihero]

who were the three millers?

I see fitz and jmj.

[Antihero]

oh, 1-3 millers. /facepalm

[Antihero]

andrew flipping roleblocker didn't help town, FTR

[Antihero]

Yeah, I fail to see, really, what advantage we had learning andrew was a roleblocker.

Narrows down what the setup can be, which is bad for mafia.

I don't see where that was actually put into practice and really made a difference in the outcome of the game.