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I know I said I was hoping to be done by tonight, but a fair amount of unexpected RL things got in the way of that. I'll post what I have so far. I can probably get through some more later tonight, but may have to hold off until Wednesday for the rest depending on schoolwork:
Pages 1-3
All I got out of the first two pages was "no u." VP's insistence that Shadow Dancer was talking about the playerlist is mildly disturbing. I see no reason to have thought Shadow Dancer didn't mean "setup." Minor scum read on VP for the possible intentional misrep. I also don't like that he said Concission seems serious about her reasoning, but votes her for it anyway. My gut isn't liking Fate, but I don't have anything solid to point to for that.
Pages 4-6
Post 92 is :goodposting: Simenon can join VP's ranks in my scum reads after this, especially since his only other post was an excessively weak vote (that he's kept despite all this useful information he seems to be saying we had) and this post just looks like mudslinging.FoS SimenonFeeling better about Fate for no good reason. Simenon's attempt to justify his position sounds pathetic. Would be voting him at this point. AGM seems to share my town/scum opinions. Cool. He seems fairly town at this point. I also think Shadow Dancer is town. His posts thus far have been mostly obvious or useless content, but it feels like he genuinely believes it to be useful. Jarti's distancing from his reads in his very first post is scummy. Am I the only one who finds it funny that Fate is singing "What is love?"? I can understand the Antihero hate at this point, but I currently have him at almost completely null...okay, never mind, he looks hella bad on page 6.
Page 7
Unnecessary meta post here from Simenon. Really not liking him at this point. Also not liking this post from Concission. It's just useless response after useless response. I sympathize with Crypto right now.
Vote would be (and already is) on Simenon up through page 7."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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"Hmmm....well this could be scummy, but it could not be depending on how much Antitown knows."Simenon wrote:the most persuasive reason to vote antitown so far is this, by the way:
But since he only has 39 gameposts I'm not sure whether he could be aware enough of the meta that elusiveness is town (albeit a very outdated meta)fate wrote:I think its the cute scum game where they keep their RVS vote for "mysterious" reasons instead of awkwardly trying to come up with a reason to push a mislynch or bus.
You're right. I don't know how I mistook that for fencesitting."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I didn't drop anything. I decided not to waste time arguing it. Just like I'm going to ignore your response to my fencesitting point. I trust that people in this game are smart enough to draw their own conclusions from it without a useless argument cluttering up the thread."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Unvote
I have time to start catching up again. It would be nice if we didn't lynch someone while I'm still on page 10 please and thank you. Also wondering why Simenon wasn't even considered as a compromise lynch, yet everyone piles onto him when asked to vote their strongest suspects."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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tl;dr, here are my reads (players within a group are in whatever order I think of them, which usually puts them almost in order of scumminess):Spoiler: catch-up post
Scum
Jarti
Concission
Simenon
Scummy Side of Null
VP Baltar
GLaDOS (pre-post edit: move him to "town" because of vig claim)
zoraster
Null
AlmasterGM
Town Side of Null
RedCoyote
Shadow Dancer
Crypto
LuckayLuck
Town
Ythill
Fate
Now onto the new stuff:
I agree GLaDOS shouldn't have claimed, but not really much to be said about that. I also don't think our redeemed soul should claim. That just guarantees that scum can make the game mountainous by day 4 if they so choose.
Vote: Concissionfor wagon purposes
For anyone that read the spoilered part of this post, I said I would look into the end-of-day shenanigans. That's coming in my next post (which will hopefully be within the next couple of hours, but may be held off until tonight if it takes too long)."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Promised post? What promised post?!
Got a bit caught up playing marathon games and with some RL things and then forgot about it. Tomorrow good for you guys? It's good for me.
Oh, and I hope you're happy.... (*points to avatar*)"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Sorry about that. Personal-ish reasons you probably wouldn't believe if I told you. If I don't post after classes today,RC wrote:VV's catchup post was okay but he's since disappeared.I'll eat my hatfeel free to vote me for it or something."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Hai guys, I'm haiiiipperrrrrrr. But don't worry, I'm here to post!
Voting analysis is boooooorrrrring. And my predecessor ninja'd me on the votes I started with :< It made me saddd!
So I was reading and GUYS, WE'RE WAGONING THE WRONG PEOPLE. It's baaaaad. We should realllly be wagoning *dramatic music* THIS GUY! Let's enjoy his awesomesauce posting:
post #762 - I R IS GUNNA VOTE CHUUUUU
post #773 - ...unless other people start unvoting you first
post #774 - omgomgomg one of u iz scumz, but i don't wanna vote you guyz, k? (distancing with VP, say what?!)
[I'M SKIPPING SOME STUFF IN HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO, K?]
post #854 - SEE! HE FLIPPED TOWN! NOW UR SCUM! MAN, SUCKS FOR YOU! I WOULD HAVE UNVOTED IF HE'S FLIPPED SCUM! sheesh dude, what happened to you thinking he was scum? you were on his lynch wagon just yesterday! but nah, it's ttly cool you wanted to vote VP anyway at the start of the day. keep scummin' it up
post #927 - OH NOES, READING ALL THIS STUFF FROM PEOPLE I'M NOT VOTING ARE CONFUSING MY READS, SO I SHOULD UNVOTE AND VOTE SOMEONE ELSE
VOTE: JARTI
YES WE CAN. YES WE CAN"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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DUDE, I WAS HERE THE END OF YESTERDAY AND MISSED LIKE ONE PAGE IN THE MIDDLE, MAH READS ARE AS CURRENT AS THE WATER IN A RIVERSD wrote:@VV: Most of your reads and comments were really outdated, you should really give some up-to-date- thoughts."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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DUDE, YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED HIM SINCE WAY BACK HERE ASIDE FROM ONE COMMENT ABOUT "ZOMG IS THIS THE SAME JARTI?" HAVE YOU EVEN BEEN READING HIS POSTS?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I think this vote just got a lot less sexy. I'll reread jarti later on and try to get a handle on things....Concission wrote:Unvote.Vote:Jarti
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@Jarti
I asked if you were an alt because there was something I saw in your iso that would make more sense if you were. I have since managed to forget what that something was. Go me.
In the meantime, RC-wagon is probably just a distraction and Fate-wagon is downright stupid. AGM-wagon << Concission wagon and Jarti-wagon isn't happening I guess. Whatever.Vote: AlmasterGM.
Maybe I'll post more when I'm not busy making myself miserable. But damn, I'm really good at that so it may be a while."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Is RedCoyote not still voting you? Well, whatever.
Your argument for Jarti-town is entirely unconvincing. I see no reason to favor "town seeing stupid things that aren't there" over "scum making up stupid things that aren't there" as an explanation for Jarti's case (that was your defense of him, right?). No matter though. I'm not going to argue with my two strongest town reads to derail a perfectly good wagon on someone I don't have much of a read on anyway. If Jarti is scum, he'll find a way to convince us eventually."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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"Don't play vote tricks, but if you do want to, here's how you can." Am I reading that correctly?hito wrote:Votes: Votes must be bold, and be on the start of a new line.A vote inside a paragraph doesn't count.Unvotes are nice but not necessary.Don't play 'vote tricks'– whether you voted for someone or not is ultimately for me to decide, not you.Isn't that the title of OJ Simpson's book?
My vote wasn't meant to be a trick vote, but it apparently fooled everyone but AGM. I really question the wisdom of a rule set that actively discourages voting gambits, while passively encouraging them.
I was happy to vote AGM for wagoning purposes, but I don't really feel comfortable hammering him tbh, especially now that the last two votes on him were hella shady (most notably Concission's "gee, I just don't know who to suspect anymore. :bashful face: vote: AGM" post). Concission wagon is 10x better than an AGM wagon right now."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I still think that rule hurts more than it helps. What if this had been 3p lylo and a vote didn't count because it wasn't at the start of a line? Is that really how games should be won and lost?
Anyway, if people are about to start jumping off of AGM, now would be the perfect time to get a better wagon going.
Unvote, vote: Concission
If you need a reason, look no farther than here. If you need anything more than that, there are 42 pages worth of Concission-scum for you to read. Get on it."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Jarti's point is good if it's true, but aside from that, SD's hop wasn't anywhere near as scummy as Concission's. Am I missing something obvious here?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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In the process of looking through votes from today. Should be done within the hour if I don't get massively distracted. Don't do anything stupid without me."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Okay, something realllly fishy is going on here. I read Concission in iso and I read (well, most of...) Shadow Dancer in iso. Concission's was easy to read. It fits on one page. It's a nice little exercise. I still have no idea how people consider Shadow Dancer scummier. There is no way in hell we start the day with a wagon on Concission, have everyone suddenly switch to AGM, and then everyone switch to SD just as suddenly.It makes no sense.
Here's a quick rundown of votes cast today:Spoiler: Votes
Okay, I'm actually kind of falling asleep right now. I haven't gotten to anything useful yet as far as votes are concerned....maybe after a nap? If you haven't actually read what's in the spoiler yet, you really don't have to. It turns out I probably could have started around where I left off and not missed anything."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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EBWOP: Well, I should word that better. I would be surprised if scum were "driving things," per se. I do expect to see scum somewhere along the lines jumping at the opportunity to help sway wagons in a different direction a bit. I actually think the SD wagon might be primarily town-driven, just thinking about how it formed, but that just makes the formation of the AGM wagon even more questionable, if half the players on it didn't really care so much about it."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Continuing from where I left off:Spoiler: More Votes
Okay, this is getting kind of tedious, so I'm stopping for now and resuming later. Where I left off is where all votes are off Concission and the wagon on AGM is really getting going (at 4 votes). The big thing this has shown me is that I really should reread Fate. Concission still looks like scum and twice as much so if Fate is scum with her (I probably referred to Concission as a he in the rest of the post, but I'm too lazy to go back and fix that). It would also resolve the Jarti-Concission issue in my head, since Fate-scum very likely means Jarti-town with his recent "NO, JARTI IS STUPID, HE'S OBVOBVOBVOBVOBVTOWN" defense."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Posting from class. Didn't realize the deadline was so close. Willing to accept that a Concission lynch won't happen today. I'm kind of meh on either of our current lynch choices, but I don't exactly have a town read on either at this point and would hammer either lynch if necessary.
Who's scum if both are town?Fate wrote:The flips of SD and AGM should break this game open."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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THANK YOUGLaDOS wrote:Additionally, I am not amused how players are trying to treat this game as if I only have two options.
Both wagons right now are *decent* lynches in that neither player is exactly pro-town to me right now. Neither lynch is a particularly good lynch to me, considering I don't find either particularly scummy.
Even better, GLaDOS has given us exactly the better wagon we need. I've accepted that we don't have enough support for a Concission lynch, but I'll be damned if we can't find enough players willing to vote Fate right now. We have 31 and a half hours to lynch. With even average activity, that's plenty of goddamn time for enough players to move their votes.
Vote: Fate
That's 2. RedCoyote, AGM, you've both expressed recent suspicion of Fate. Concission, you've already said you don't like either wagon. zoraster, I have no idea what you think of Fate because you've never told us. Jarti, you said Fate was likely scum.
We now have 5 players that have called Fate scum today. Five. And we have at least one player outside of that group that has said he doesn't like either current wagon. We only need 6 votes to lynch and 5 could very well be enough for plurality at deadline. "Well, we should probably lynch one of the two leading wagons" is no excuse at this juncture."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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How many players do we need to come in and say "gee, well, I guess if it has to be one of these two, it can be one of these two..." before we ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
We have one, two, THREE players in the last 4 pages alone who have done that. THREE. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PLAYERS ARE ALIVE RIGHT NOW? TWELVE. 25% OF THE GODDAMN PLAYER LIST AT A MINIMUM IS ONLY LOOKING AT ONE OF THESE TWO LYNCHES BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY CHOICE. DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO ANYONE ELSE?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I'll be sort of around for the next few hours, gone for most of the afternoon/evening, and then around again tomorrow morning/afternoon up until deadline unless something crazy happens. I can change my voteif necessary, but damn it, there is something terribly wrong if I need to change my vote before deadline."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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^ This is worth pointing saying again.VV wrote:Concission still looks like scum and twice as much so if Fate is scum with herFate scum implies Concission scum.
And I changed my mind about the next few hours. I'll be asleep for the next hour and a half, after which I will be at class. And then repeat that cycle."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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gee. I get to pick from two "Zoraster Approved" lynches. Wonderful.zoraster wrote:good god. why are you making life difficult?
What about this is so difficult? There is still plenty of time until deadline to have people move their votes."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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There's no reason we shouldn't have enough players around in the final 26 hours before deadline to get a different lynch to happen. We've had enough players express interest in this lynch that weknowthere are enough players out there to make this lynch happen. With deadline coming up, players should be checking this thread more often if at all possible. There's no reason we can't get 5 or 6 votes in 26 hours.
So zoraster, what doyouthink of Fate?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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RC and GLaDOS have specificaly said they prefer a Fate lynch. AGM gave a scum list here that included Fate, but not SD. I would rather a Fate lynch. Concission has expressed suspicion of Fate and has said that he doesn't find either lynch candidate particularly scummy Jarti was voting Fate earlier, but I don't know who he finds scummiest right now. At a minimum, there are 5 players I would say prefer a Fate lynch to either of the two lynches.
Pre-post Edit: How is lynching someone that has that much suspicion on him amistake?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Scum ready to lynch anyone already had plenty of opportunity to pile onto SD or AGM, unless both of them are scum (hint: I reallly doubt it). I'm looking now at players that have said Fate is scum, but instead piled onto SD or AGM."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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To use your wording, "mutual agreement" is on the SD-AGM dichotomy. I'm trying to get us the hell out of that dichotomy."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Where's the opposition to these wagons resulting in a lynch? Pretty much everyone (except GLaDOS) has said they were find with lynching one of those players. Yeah, the lynch hasn't happened yet, but do you really expect a town in current site meta to agree on which of two players to lynch more than a few days before deadline?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I'm back. Should have access for the next few hours, as well as tomorrow afternoon (and morning if I'm awake).
@VP
In my experience, having two popular wagons automatically means you won't get a lynch until close to deadline. Players on either wagon refuse to switch, in the hopes the wagon will shift in their favor, and players off the wagon are hesitant to vote for someone that isn't their top suspect. What have you seen here that's any different?
@AGM
You posted this yesterday. Do you still stand by that list?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Yes we do ;_;AGM wrote:I know we don't have the time to switch wagons right now.
The problem isn't that we don't have time. The problem is that everyone keeps saying we don't have time. If those people would put there votes where their mouths were instead of complaining about "OH NOES THE DEADLINE IS COMING UP", there would beplentyof time.
Pre-post edit: I thought this submitted 20 minutes ago, but it got ninja'd and I wasn't watching >.<"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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The fact that we couldn't get a single person to switch votes with 36 hours left before deadline to a wagon that at least 5 people favored is just sad.
Vote: Shadow Dancer
Pretty sure that's the hammer. If I die tonight, take another look at a Concission-Fate pairing please."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Vote: Fate. This should have happened yesterday. Same can be said about Concission, but too many players seem to be willing to give her a free pass.
In the meantime, I want an ordered list of suspicions from SD."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Yeah, seriously, how dare he leave for 5 days. I can't even think of a town motivation for his priorities.VP wrote:Also, I call complete bullshit on AGM's voting and then leaving for five days of V/LA.
When did this happen?LL wrote:He came around to being both high-content and high-volume and he broadcasted in a townie sort of
Lylo is in a long time from now. We still have 11 players alive.Fate wrote:someone do the lylo math please"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Yes.VP Baltar wrote:
Is this sarcasm?Vigilante Ventriloquist wrote:
Yeah, seriously, how dare he leave for 5 days. I can't even think of a town motivation for his priorities.VP wrote:Also, I call complete bullshit on AGM's voting and then leaving for five days of V/LA."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I don't need RC-scum for you-scum to make sense. In fact, I think RC is town. The idea of you-scum started out when I actually bothered to look at day 2 in detail (here) and GLaDOS getting reactions out of you saved me the time of having to look back at day 1. Heck, if SD flips scum, SD-Fate-Concission wouldn't surprise me at all."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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I've discovered I hate rereading this game. Did someone day "only got through reading half of day 1"? I can.
Things I've noticed this time around:- While I found both VPB and Concission somewhat scummy upon reread, they wouldn't make any sense as scum together.
- Fate defended SD pretty early (around page 10, I think). Could be useful depending on SD's flip (I'll also be looking for where exactly Fate's read on him changed and why).
- Fate's early day 1 play was scummy. His day 2 play was definitely scummy. I'm not sure where in-between there I decided he was town.
- Jarti is town. I know I'd already started coming around to that by the end of day 2, but I'm a lot more confident on that now.
"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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So you're seriously considering that Shadow Dancer is scum. You see zoraster's claim at 11:09:16am EST. You're still talking to himVP Balter, [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=2881718#p2881718]Post #1330[/url] wrote:I'm debating that. However, the longer he takes to post his post-lynch wrap up, the more I am going to think that's the case.(that Shadow Dancer is scum)and waiting for a counter-claimat 11:34:42am. You spent 25 minutes arguing about "lol y wud u claim if u wer actually redeemed soul?" and then intended to leave him at L-1 with someone you're seriously considering as scum having a chance to hammer with no downside to him if he is.
I'm calling bs on that. Barring someone else coming in and counterclaiming redeemed soul, that was you looking to get confirmed town lynched.
This also means Shadow Dancer is probably scum."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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Are YOU reading the game? It wasn't exactly a secret I thought SD was scummier than AGM. You are soooo scummy for not reading the thread.
Pre-post edit: Ummm....do you know how this game works?"I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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suggested reading
What the hell did you think the redeemed soul did?! And the impatient vigilante? Holy shit, dude."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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So VP, what happened to reading the setup?VP Baltar wrote:3) Town players are more likely to be thinking about how this setup can best be approached in the early stages of the game."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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hahahhahaha
The only thing preventing me from voting you right now is that I almost can't believe you would be this stupid as scum. This is just so lulzily awful."I WANNA lynch Vigilante Ventriloquist for being annoying enough to be a Reaper Charlie alt" -GreyICE
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