For being the last person to post before I came. Gotta be scum.
And, how lucky is it (for the Mafia) that they got the Vig, and for us that the Vig got his kill in (on a Mafioso), too! The irony.
Um... If you're talking about the strange quote at the end, would scumSundy wrote:Hola people. What a bloody beginning.
VOTE: Animorph
"We can't tell you who we are. Or where we live."
Please see underlined. Combined with this post, I don't see how your said reasons to vote for me work without us being able to useToastyToast wrote:When I see people voting for lurkers, I feel as if they are trying to go for an easy lynch. So, I have a problem with it.
But You didn't really answer my question. If you expect me to vote or if you want to convince town, I need more evidence than one sentence.
Also, my vote on you isn't OMG SCUM, but I do find you scummy. Other players need to get in here, I'm not denying that--I just find your vote lacking and am unconvinced on your defense regarding searching for cop.
ToastyToast wrote:I'm expecting a lot of pictures of me being eaten.
You speak against yourself, again.ToastyToast wrote:lol DRK u sigged me <3
ToastyToast wrote:@cjdrum: Why exactly is keeping things under control scummy?
No, not any more.Sundy wrote:@CJ: do you think Toast is suspicious or not, and -- if not -- what changed your mind?
Er... Which question? I thought I had answered that string of questions that you had asked, but I can answer them again, if I must.Sundy wrote:I don't really get why killing Start would give any more insight than killing animorph/bv. He's basically made no stances throughout the game, so what's a flip going to tell us? Even if you want to kill a lurker, I think BV's "format" post looks more scummy, since it implies he's written up thoughts but hasn't published them.yabbaguy wrote:A good start. I don't like Jora's bv reasons a) because he's now the millionth person to use that stupid ???-PROFIT cliché and b) because it lynches a null slot where an at least somewhat active slot could actually buy us something.
CJ = not responded to my question = IGMEOY.
These parts?DeathRowKitty wrote:I would certainly hope you don't have anyone in your "definite scum" list. If you did, I would have to assume you're scum...on second thought, please put someone in your definite scum list so I can assume you're scum.
Let's discuss yabbaguy's post 57.Now, first thing to notice is that it's post #57 and there areBut even aside from that, try to put yourself in his mindset.57 Heinz varieties. Yes, you heard me correctly. He captured the elusive Heinz varieties post. That alone gives him town points in my book.It should be easier for you than for me since the first letter of your username is lower-case anyway.Imagine you've just seen my posts.(Reading them again now is probably advisable, but if not, pretending you did and then agreeing with me and voting Sundy is acceptable too.)Now try to tell me which alignment you feel when making that post.Breathe in. Breathe out. You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what it's all about.
(Parts of that were actually meant to be serious. Bonus points if you can figure out which parts.)
Also, not sure what you could possibly mean when you say "the classic 'Oh, I didn't know we weren't RVSing'". I came in, people seemed to be RVSing, so I did too. Immediately after, DRK corrected me, and I was genuinely confused.The Wiki wrote:Note that these are rules of thumb, not hard and fast rules. There are and will be exceptions. The key to being a great player is being able to identify them.
Orr... There's the (admittedly extremely likely) possibility of the SK withholding his kill, then saying that there musn't be one because there were no kills.ToastyToast wrote:Also, on the results of the night phase: the fact that there were no kills makes me think that there are no vigs or SK's (I suppose one-shot vig could exist). I highly doubt the chance of two successful doc-blocks in one night.
No, I'm not.ToastyToast wrote:Are you kidding?
I'll answer with this:@Mod: Do SK have to send in a kill each night?
From my experience, they usually have to do so.
Nobody Special wrote:Serial Killer wrote:Each night, youmaysend me a PM with the name of a player that you wish to kill. You win when you are the only player still alive
Again, answering with a quote (of the post directly before yours):Its whatI thinkhappened. Excuse the WIFOM, but mafia would not hold off on a kill this early.
cjdrum wrote:There's the other possibility of the Mafia withholding the kill, then saying that there musn't be an SK to...Actually no.
Mafia died via one of Serial Killer or Vig - no guarantees. Vig died via one of Serial Killer and Mafia - no guarantees. I've heard of too many cases where a kill was held off to make it look like the person was not that role. Too many.Also, with a vig death and a mafia death N0, I am seeing that they killed each other. This only works when paired with tonights results. And vigs do shoot N0, happens all the time.
It was a very hard and fast decision that you made - even if it was only an "opinion". The fact that you chose that opinion as your own is flippin' scummy.I'm not saying that there aren't other options, I'm just suggesting what I find the most likely and what I intend to be operating on.
Okay. I'm fine with you using this tactic, but... It wasn't relevant here. You practically change the topic to "Haha, find my scumbuddy, losers... Oh wait, you can't"Instead of looking for individual scumminess, looking for associations (or lack thereof) will be more helpful.
No.And you mean the previous suspicion of me voting you?
here, then here also.lol, yeah cuz those were great reasons. Where, after that little argument, did you mention suspicions on me?
You mean... D1 or D2? I think that it's better to vote somebody based on many small-ish points that I've found than for somebody who is being voted on because they are.when there is a case of crap upon more crap against me, I can't help but get frustrated.
Should I rephrase this?jora gets scumpoints for saying its "all over" if I'm lynched, but its no different from his usual play
I didn't vote because I wasn't going to be there for deadline - if a few others hadn't been there, we could've lynched a PR simply because "the majority" weren't there to unvote.I can see cjdrum and yabba scum team. cjdrum does not once mention the jackalope wagon. NOT ONCE. Especially when getting close to deadline, you think he would consider it. Looks to me like distancing from a wagon for town credit. Instead he goes after ZF--but no vote!
yabba and cjdrum hardly mention one another. yabba does so only once, when cjdrum says he'll put a vote on ZF. And yet, we never hear a response. And now, instead of coming back and continuing a case on ZF, or giving an answer as to why he didn't put a vote down, he votes me.
AKA: "SK's not gonna hold off a killToastyToast wrote:What person had to hold off on a kill to avoid people from thinking he was said role? More likely for an SK to pretend he was Vig.
Bandwagon much?DeathRowKitty wrote:Vote: cjdrum
Bandwagon OMGUS much?ToastyToast wrote:Fine with meUnvote:Vote:cjdrum.
Also, havingfitz, you haven't responded here either. Answers, pl0x?cjdrum (originally talking to fitz, but relevant here) wrote:Can you give some solid points yourself, please? If you simply vote meand let two others blatantly follow your bandwagon, I have nothing to defend against.
Anything in particular that I can respond to, please?
Maybe not, but can youToastyToast wrote:What has cjdrum done to make him obvtown. Throwing the term around is one thing but actual proof is another. I've ISO'd cjdrum 2...maybe 3 times? and still do not see protown in him.yabbaguy wrote:Yeah. Since when did the apple get a vote to lynch?
But honestly, what's wrong with Toasty? cjdrum is obvious Mcobvious Town and I bet you know it.
Italics is mine.ToastyToast wrote:1) Attitude, but that was ended with my 1st vote on you.Okay, if the suspicion ended, don't bring it up.
2) You + Yabbaguy makes an awful lot of sense.HAS NOT BEEN EXPLAINED
3) Vote hopping: I can't track your train of thought at all, don't really know where your suspicions are...in contrast to farside, ZF, and even yabbaguy, you seem to be too flexible with your reads. A proper scum list on your part would be awfully nice plz.I have my own train of thought. I understand it, and others don't seem to have a problem with it either. If you have a problem following, ask me what I meant or how I got somewhere. (also, I will work on a proper scum list when I get on a real computer - sorry for the wait )
4) The point on which you attacked me today (my speculation) is not something I see to be enough to warrant a vote, and thus the only reason I see for your vote lies within yabba's own reasons. I just don't think there is an SK among us.My reasoning was stronger than your "Oh, it's really just a gut thing" reasoning. It seems to be that if you want to say anything to me, you should say it to yourself first.
5) GUT, and its a strong one. My gut basically starts my case on you, and with a suspicion in mind I've been paying a lot of attention to your posts. So, little things stick out.If you believed that the colour red was out to get you, you'd be seeing red everywhere. The minor feelings from your gut calling me scummy mean nothing. I just want a real thing to defend against - if you give me nothing to defend against, I'll just be lynched without any say.