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Heya all. This is your friendly neighborhood bee, replacing in for ConfidAnon.
(My avatar of a cartoony bee goes here) (Yes, this is my /confirm)
In my last couple of games, I had v/la issues. I'm hoping it won't be a issue in this game. I'm aiming for at least one post a (IRL) day. If a long time passes and I don't post, call me out on it in thread. I often read and don't post anything. I'm trying to break that habit.
I'm up to page 5- PI is scum, and verydark is a close second.-
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Hmm. Just finished my read.
I'm not going to vote VE in this day. So town.
Scum?
gbevilchaos- More time is needed to read this slot- and he is being replaced, blah. The reason why i feel funny about gb is because of his "Skimming is scummy" attack on VE.
SCUM:
PIcavjj- Why? posting does NOT feel right (on PI's part). Answer this- who do you find scummy right now? There isnt a good reason to withhold your opinions.
cavjj wrote:I've had a look at the thread and formed my opinions, but I'll wait until we get the two replacements and activity picks up a little bit more.
You not saying anything does nothing to help activity pick up.
Verydark - Gut scumread. Cant really quantify this right now.
That's all i have for now.
I like where ConfidAnon's vote is. To make it official-vote cavjj-
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Reab wrote:I dont want to start a bandwagon on him becauseInactivity doesnt automatically mean he is scum.it's just my thoughts i had about his almost not existing actions he did so far, and i have been asking for your guys input about him (which you btw didnt manage to give me, klazam. you just shot out a random vote.) to see if you guys are thinking the same. Furhtermore i am still waiting for a response of him, thats why i didn't call a bandwagon so far. His statement will bring in some results.
Bolded: If you dont think hes scum why vote for him?
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Hmm.
Reab- answer this question- Do you believe in the policy, Lynch All Lurkers? That's what you're doing here. You're not scumhunting, you're lurkerhunting. Lurkers can be town/scum, and most of the time there is not enough information to tell them apart. It is my belief that lurkerhunting is a easy thing for scum to do. You're lukerhunting, therefore you are scummy. You are also misrepresenting Toon Fighter.
He hasn't brought any real input so far, jumps on wagons as 4th or 5th person, no matter which person is getting waggoned.
That was for his only vote, which he later provides reasoning for. your sentence makes him sound like he is doing it chronically.
Cavjj- If you ever come back, could you address my question?
Toon Fighter- We need MOAR postage from you.
Empking- If you dont think TF is scum, could you enlighten us to why?
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know what? Toon Fighter is right.
Reab wrote:
3) i would rather go for warriormode than Toon Fighter, just because of the simple fact thatToon Fighter is actively bringing in ideas and thoughts to the game, and warrior, well, read above.
Toon Fighter wrote:back, what's new?
Reab wrote:
For right now i'm more worrying about Toon Fighter.He hasn't brought any real input so far, jumps on wagons as 4th or 5th person, no matter which person is getting waggoned. He seems to not care who is getting voted on, and therefore i call him out being scum.
He didn't put in any reliable scumhunt or helpful asnwers so far. The only thing he did was repeating other's opinions, while not forming his own thoughts.
How did that one post in between totally shift your stance on Toon Fighter? Read the bolded. They are complete opposite statements.-
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Due to the insanely slow pace of this game, I'd like to propose something.
Why not we post a list of people we are willing to see lynched then figure out who has the most people wanting to lynch that person, then lynch based on that?
Hopefully, the pace of this game will pick up on day 2.
I'm willing to see these three people lynched-
Reab, because he is scummy, as i pointed out in previous posts.
VeryDark, gut scumread
Cavjj, because i did not like PI's posts.
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Reab wrote:Toon Fighter wrote:I claim VT
Didn't the host say 1 doc, 4 mafia, and rest gets normal townie pm (Page 1, Post 3 or 4, the Role descriptions) ??
How would you know that you are VT ? This doesn't make sense.
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IF i'm reading this correctly, reab needs to be lynched NAO.
Or i'm horribly wrong.
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Are anybody else seeing what reab is saying in that post or it's just me?
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That post has a 80% probablity of being a scumslip.
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Reab wrote:Toon Fighter wrote:I claim VT
Didn't the host say 1 doc, 4 mafia, and rest gets normal townie pm (Page 1, Post 3 or 4, the Role descriptions) ??
How would you know that you are VT ? This doesn't make sense.
My issue with what you said is that if you looked and saw two possible roles, why didnt you ask which one toon was? You instead say "VT" like you knew what it was.-
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Krazy wrote:Reab wrote:
No, said "VT" because i didnt want to ask what a VT is, because you would have misinterpreted it :/ NEED TO GO!
That is a totally unsatisfactory answer to your question, Klazam, (and your question itself is one I might have asked myself). Not sure why you accept this answer.
On the other hand though, I had a townread on MediocreJPop, which either means MediocreJPop was much better at appearing town than either the first person in that slot or the current one, I'm still inclined to say that Ceab is more likely to be derping town than scumslipping.
But this thing where Reab doesn't even ask whether he's claiming "voteless townie" or "vengeful townie" is extremely alarming, in more than just a scum-slip kind of way. Even if telling the truth, that means Reab is not asking vital questions that interfere with his capacity to understand what people are saying in the game. Honestly, not asking whether it's Voteless Townie or Vengeful Townie because he's afraid it will be "misinterpreted" might actually be scummier than the apparent slip.
Gonna have to process this one a bit more.
I'm not entirely accepting the answer. I just dont see the point of pursuring an arugement with somebody who's not even there. I have no desire to try and lynch somebody who cant even defend himself. I'll pursure it more when he's back.
Toon Fighter- UGH. Too many v/la and flakers in this game. It'll be a miracle if we lynch somebody in D1.-
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1. Klazam is likely scum with Reab, not as likely scum if Reab is town. Backing off of the (legit, IMO) scumslip like that just looks like scum distancing, and there have been other places in the thread where Klazam/ConfidAnon fence sat.
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Klazam wrote:Krazy wrote:Reab wrote:
No, said "VT" because i didnt want to ask what a VT is, because you would have misinterpreted it :/ NEED TO GO!
That is a totally unsatisfactory answer to your question, Klazam, (and your question itself is one I might have asked myself). Not sure why you accept this answer.
On the other hand though, I had a townread on MediocreJPop, which either means MediocreJPop was much better at appearing town than either the first person in that slot or the current one, I'm still inclined to say that Ceab is more likely to be derping town than scumslipping.
But this thing where Reab doesn't even ask whether he's claiming "voteless townie" or "vengeful townie" is extremely alarming, in more than just a scum-slip kind of way. Even if telling the truth, that means Reab is not asking vital questions that interfere with his capacity to understand what people are saying in the game. Honestly, not asking whether it's Voteless Townie or Vengeful Townie because he's afraid it will be "misinterpreted" might actually be scummier than the apparent slip.
Gonna have to process this one a bit more.
I'm not entirely accepting the answer. I just dont see the point of pursuring an arugement with somebody who's not even there. I have no desire to try and lynch somebody who cant even defend himself. I'll pursure it more when he's back.
Toon Fighter- UGH. Too many v/la and flakers in this game. It'll be a miracle if we lynch somebody in D1.
I'm not backing off of it. I'm just saying that I'll wait on it.
And if i was scum with Reab, why would i be the first to point out the scumslip? (WIFOM, yes, but still)-
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All right- Let me break down that post: "MEH"- My displeasure at him going v/la, "He can live to be lynched another day"= "I'll pursure it more when he's back."(which I later said)
And where did that "our assertion" come from? You had no part in it. It was MY assertion.
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Vis- I too would like to have some reasoning why you won't vote for reab.
This game is making me not motivated. Hard to even apply pressure or find suspicions when every other player is being replaced or on v/la... At least out of all the active players, only cavjj feels scummy. I believe that everyone else (that is active) is town.-
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I've been reading through, and this is what i see. Please read the following posts by cavjj
cavjj wrote:I've had a look at the thread and formed my opinions, but I'll wait until we get the two replacements and activity picks up a little bit more.
cavjj wrote:Guys having another re-read of the thread now. Seeing a few people saying "Cavjj hasn't answered my question" or "PI didn't answer my question", I'll address anything I see on my re-read when I've finished but anything specific you want to ask, let me know so I can get back to you.
cavjj wrote:Klazam, it was mainly a combination of the fact that the thread had been largely inactive for a few days, and two replacements were due. Mainly wanted to wait for some more contributions from others before I posted anything.
cavjj wrote:Because I wanted to see contributions to myself rather than something PI had posted that had made him and me look like scum.Unfortunately, I haven't really been on last week and I've explained why (Even if I was scum, I'm not going to lie about personal circumstances. But watching your neighbourhood filled with rioters, shops you go into burning down in front of you here in London I've had more important things on my mind).So the main reason that I waited to post at that point ended up null and void.
These are 4 posts that cavjj made in a row. Post A implies that he has formed opnions, on players, but he's waiting until later to post it. (Italized part). Post B says that he's doing a re-read. Post C was him saying that he was waiting for more postage. Post D- Underlined part makes absloutely no sense. I see no town motivation underlying that part. Then we come to the bolded part. If the main reason why you waited is void, then how come we have NOT heard your opnions from either your original read, or your reread? I feel that this is active lurking of a sort, trying to look like content will be given, but nothing has came out of it.
After that, you FoS reab, then decided that he's a total newb, which excuses all suspicions on him. Afterwards, there's a dumb second RVS.
then you point me, Emp, and VE out as scummy- VE due to his ATE and Me/emp due to me trying to clarify who he thought was scummy.
There's another post about Emp.
That's It. Where's all your opnions from your read/ reread?
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Krazy wrote:Alright Klazam, let me just cut to the heart for a moment: cavjj might be sort of lurky and sort of scummy, but why is he the best lynch today?
Because hes the only damned player that i have a decent scumread on, other than Reab.
If you ask me why I'm not voting for Reab, it's because although i think hes scummy, i dont have enough to feel certain. I want more time to see what reab has to say. When sunday rolls around, I'll see what happens, but for now, my lynch choice is cavjj.
I would say it is 100% certain that one or more of the hardcore lurkers/replacees are scum, but I cannot see which. 2-3 posts before being replaced, and/or disappearing does not give me enough material to go off on. If i vote for a lurker, It would be essentially a random vote, while if i vote for cavjj, I believe that is better than random. PI and cavjj has demostrated enough scumminess for me to be confident about their lynch. I cannot say the same for any other player.-
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Klazam wrote:I've been reading through, and this is what i see. Please read the following posts by cavjj
cavjj wrote:I've had a look at the thread and formed my opinions, but I'll wait until we get the two replacements and activity picks up a little bit more.
cavjj wrote:Guys having another re-read of the thread now. Seeing a few people saying "Cavjj hasn't answered my question" or "PI didn't answer my question", I'll address anything I see on my re-read when I've finished but anything specific you want to ask, let me know so I can get back to you.
cavjj wrote:Klazam, it was mainly a combination of the fact that the thread had been largely inactive for a few days, and two replacements were due. Mainly wanted to wait for some more contributions from others before I posted anything.
cavjj wrote:Because I wanted to see contributions to myself rather than something PI had posted that had made him and me look like scum.Unfortunately, I haven't really been on last week and I've explained why (Even if I was scum, I'm not going to lie about personal circumstances. But watching your neighbourhood filled with rioters, shops you go into burning down in front of you here in London I've had more important things on my mind).So the main reason that I waited to post at that point ended up null and void.
These are 4 posts that cavjj made in a row. Post A implies that he has formed opnions, on players, but he's waiting until later to post it. (Italized part). Post B says that he's doing a re-read. Post C was him saying that he was waiting for more postage. Post D- Underlined part makes absloutely no sense. I see no town motivation underlying that part. Then we come to the bolded part. If the main reason why you waited is void, then how come we have NOT heard your opnions from either your original read, or your reread? I feel that this is active lurking of a sort, trying to look like content will be given, but nothing has came out of it.
After that, you FoS reab, then decided that he's a total newb, which excuses all suspicions on him. Afterwards, there's a dumb second RVS.
then you point me, Emp, and VE out as scummy- VE due to his ATE and Me/emp due to me trying to clarify who he thought was scummy.
There's another post about Emp.
That's It. Where's all your opnions from your read/ reread?
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A) Congratulating the doc- very classic scumtell
B) Confusion about the night's kill- Asking if it was the fire mafia who killed Empking, when he already knew about his kill on Emp, therefore knowing that the fire mafia shouldnt have killed Emp. This is supported by him asking if the fire mafia sent in their kill first.
The reason why i voted/unvoted first off was because i saw A) then I made a reflex reaction. after i read the rest of his post, it makes no sense from mafia's viewpoint. After the mod's error was caught/changed, then the post suddenly made sense from Ice mafia's viewpoint.
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Congratulating a doc isnt that much of a tell. It isnt the main reason why i'm voting.
Let me walk you through this from the Ice Scum viewpoint.
Ice Scum Toon Fighter wrote:Night: *kills Emp*
Daybreak: Emp is dead. yup. WAITWHAT? Fire Scum killed him? I know i killed him. Question: Did fire scum kill him first? Or did we try to kill somebody else?
This is how i see things.
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Becuse of the "congrats doc" part.
"Mod, when you say Empking died by Fira Maf that means ONLY Fire Maf targeted him or Fire Maf targeted him first?"
This isnt the sort of question i'd execpt to see if he was wondering if the doc saved somebody. If he was truly wondering, would he have put up the congrats doc part first?-
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yeah, Cirno.
KJ, I cant really attack you due to Cavjj's actions, because there's no way in hell you can defend aganist it, so i'll just call you scummy for now and see what devlops. Both PI and Cavjj was scummy, so you have a quite long climb ahead of you. To start, PLEASE POST YOUR OPNIONS ON THE END OF YOUR REREAD, dont just keep it to yourself.-
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Klazam He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Klazam He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Klazam He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Klazam He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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