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FB wrote:Why do you think scum are more likely to be wary of voting?
Number of reasons, actually.
1) All of scum's reads are going to be false (unless they're bussing, but that's a different story). It is therefore hard for them to "put their money where their mouth is" per se by voting for their reads, because they're wary that their cases are shoddy. I think that's especially true with newbscum.
2) Putting a vote on someone increases town's focus on scum, meaning that scum have to try and defend these shoddy reads
3) Scum don't like committing to reads because they want to be flexible in case easier lynches come up
Unless the vote is going to lead to a quickhammer or something, town shouldn't be wary of voting.
FB wrote:I actually don't think that's true, in general. it's also not very often scum out and admit they've no reads, it's certainly something I'd never do as scum - precisely because people find it scummy, when it's actually more likely to come from town (imo)
WIFOM. Also, there's a tension in your defense of C_P here if you're going to say that he doesn't know the meta but he knows what's "expected scum behaviour".
I'm seeing the newbtown argument, though.
FB wrote:Eh, where did he say he had offsite experience?
C_P wrote:My previous mafia experience is just games on another forum I visit.
FB wrote:Actually, Pig. Have you been posting from your phone often in this game so far?
Yeah, more than I'd like to. Wouldn't have much time to contribute otherwise, though. Why does that matter?
Also, just noticed a couple of things.
Cross_Pollination wrote:Nobody Special seems like a troll of some sort. Other than that, I've got nothing on him. Oh well, it's better than nothing.
Cross_Pollination wrote:And I found his posts suspicious.
Troll =/= scum. I find the change in reasoning upon being questioned very strange. C_P, what about NS do you think is scummy?
DonJosh wrote:But my scummiest read is fatlikepig. I don't like his few posts.
FTR, these posts are my RVS bandwagon and the "ohohoho Quil you funny" post.
What about these are scummy?
ScreamingHawk wrote:Did I? My bad. I had pig in mind for a vote for a while. Must never have gone through with it
This post. I don't like it.
Why didn't you say anything about someone you thought was scummy? What made you change your mind on voting?
Going to suspend judgment on Cross_Pollination until he posts some more. I think having more posts from him would be a useful gauge of how many of his earlier posts are as a result of being a "newbie". For now, though:
FoS: Cross_Pollination
VOTE: ScreamingHawk
Also, SK is probably town.Sproink!-
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Neither you nor I know his intent (or lack thereof) in not answering my questions. There's plenty of reasons why I think scum may be inclined to not answer questions, either because they can't, because their answers will be scummier than not answering, or because they think they can get away with ignoring minor questions. Til he answers them, I'm going to assume the worst.
And why don't you post which posts of mine you think of scummy instead of pretending that "choice of word" actually means anything in the context of my post?Sproink!-
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Quil, your case on me is bad and you should feel bad.
Minimal contribution is definitely a scumtell when what you have contributed is scummy. As for my case not being there, the scummy aspects of C_P's early posts should have been fairly obvious. I delivered on that anyway, and I don't see why you're dismissing that just because it came later (hey, do I get to dismiss the rest of your case too? I mean, you didn't post any of this when you voted for me, right?).
Not going to bother with the rest of it, since ISO/meta on me shows that the rest of the case is baloney.
Why is trekker town when he has been calling people scum all game with no reasons?
Why are you voting for me if you have SH as leaning scum and me as null-leaning-scum? Shouldn't your vote be on the person you find most scummy?
In post 192, ScreamingHawk wrote:Did I? My bad. I had pig in mind for a vote for a while. Must never have gone through with it
The more I think about this, the more I think it's a scumslip. Town shouldn't be "planning" votes. Scum "plan" votes because they need to pin stuff on town. I'm pretty happy with my vote on SH now.Sproink!-
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Okay, beginning to see the newbtownish aspects of his post. As with C_P, I think future posts will help gauge the validity of that.
SH, why didn't you just say you'd overlooked Quil in the first place? It would have been a perfectly fine response.
Equinox's post on NS seems good, I'll have to look at the latter's meta first though. For now, I'll do this:
VOTE: DonJosh
Explain to me why my first two posts were scummy.Sproink!-
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In post 379, trekker wrote:In post 375, fatlikepig wrote:Trekker, case on SK please?
ill respond when your avatar isn't my little pony, fyi.
Stop trying to dodge my questions plzkthxSproink!-
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In post 381, kondi2424 wrote:In post 378, trekker wrote:kondi and sk are scum
I love your reasoning.
...when you haven't been giving any reasons for your votes, okay then.Sproink!-
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In post 393, trekker wrote:In post 385, fatlikepig wrote:In post 379, trekker wrote:In post 375, fatlikepig wrote:Trekker, case on SK please?
ill respond when your avatar isn't my little pony, fyi.
Stop trying to dodge my questions plzkthx
I'll answer it once you meet my demands.
Nahhhhh. I asked first, after all.Sproink!-
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In post 285, trekker wrote:In post 271, SleepyKrew wrote:Except trekker's inquisition is obvfake because I'd been calling him scum for a while before his question.
Hi. You're still dodging the question. Town shouldn't withhold information; tell me or I will start a wagon on you.
VOTE: trekkerSproink!-
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In post 419, trekker wrote:In post 398, fatlikepig wrote:In post 285, trekker wrote:In post 271, SleepyKrew wrote:Except trekker's inquisition is obvfake because I'd been calling him scum for a while before his question.
Hi. You're still dodging the question. Town shouldn't withhold information; tell me or I will start a wagon on you.
VOTE: trekker
Lynching me because you refuse to comply with my request is antitown and a bad premise. Do you actually want me to scumhunt you instead of policy lynching?
Your request is retarded, nice attempt at misrep there. And please, go ahead.Sproink!-
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Reread his ISO.
His votes are for stupid reasons (on FB because of theory, on SH because apparently he only "thought" he was town, which equates to a scumslip apparently). Also contributes little for the town except in his own defence, which is weird.
Agree with bvoigt on this post, too:
NS wrote:IF all three scum are on my wagon, I would say they are: FruitBasket, Screaming Hawk, and Sleepy.
Sleepy is my least compelling read.Sproink!-
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