Open 407: Masons and Monks (Game Over!)

[Alchemist]

I'm here mofuckas, rereading this game nao

[Alchemist]

I sheeped Elmo intentionally, should be pretty obvious why

BAAAAH BAAAH THOSE ARE SHEEP NOISES

[Alchemist]

these initial posts from lane are just lolwaytoomuchinformation to be genuine

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p4083377
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4083405
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4083430

Its like a nervous wiseguy being interrogated by police who talks to much and has a motormouth.

[Alchemist]

p3 I like the Whiskers vote, /CC case. I like Dazzy. I like Metabot. Both seem pretty genuine.

At the time, I really thought Kondi was just bsing and asking a rhetorical question. But I guess you cant prove if someone was asking a question rhetorical over forum mafia, lol.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4088470

DAFUQ

Vote: lane0168

SCUM DETECTED.

Lane is scum. Scum fucking found. Right here. IT FUCKING READS LIKE ITS IMPLIED HES SCUM AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST FILLER, LOL

[Alchemist]

vote: lane0168

[Alchemist]

addressing the lolchronoscase:

This is scummy as heck. This kind of post, asking people questions about their reads, is scummy for several reasons. First, it makes it look like Timeater is posting content when in fact he is not. Second, it helps him get a feel for what people's opinions are so that he can shape his opinions to go along with them.

No its not you're bad. Next point.

If you think lane could be scum, why were you getting on the people who sheeped your "case" post on him and voted lane?

LOL, FORGOT WHO YOU WER MAKING A CASE AGAINST EH?

More sheeping and vague fencesitting from Timeater.

I wasn't exactly active at the time. I am now. At least I'm honest about when I sheep. YOUVE AWAKEN DA DRAGUN. WIF FIRE AND BLOOD I SHALL TAKE WHAT IS MIEN.

Please. That's not a scumslip. If you don't know English grammar, try not to make cases based on it. Also, possible weakly-veiled OMGUS?

LOL AGAIN, ARENT YOU MAKING A CASE AGAINST ME? AREN'T I SCUM? ARE YOU THIS DERP?

Agreeing with kondi and defending him? Not protown at all.

So, top 3 scum reads right now are Timeater, BK201, and kondi. Chrimi needs to quit active lurking now.

SO INFORMATIVE. Yeah Chimri - stop lurking, that hasn't been said before. You are truly a master scumhunter, Chronos. lol

[Alchemist]

Guys if lane isn't scum I'll commit seppuku

[Alchemist]

guys vote lane this is ridiculous

[Alchemist]

>still havent lynched obvscum of the year, lane
>people voting whiskers, the obvtown of the year

[Alchemist]

Seriously you have to be pretty fucking dumb to think Whiskers is scum.

[Alchemist]

I HAVE A SIMPLE THING TO ASK OF EVERYONE IN THE GAME. PLEASE ANSWER IT CONCISELY AS POSSIBLE. IF YOU DONT THINK LANE IS SCUM, STATE WHY IN ONE SENTENCE. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. DO NOT QUOTE ANY PAST THINGS YOU HAVE SAID, JUST STATE WHY AS SUCCINCTLY AS POSSIBLE IN ONE SENTENCE. THANK YOU.

[Alchemist]

>idiots still voting whiskers
>idiots still not lynching lane

[Alchemist]

Coming back to this game later.

But yea. I'm REALLY fucking frustrated.

[Alchemist]

i have an assload of work to do today

im trying to read an 80 page game i preplaced into and im alsol modding a game. ive been really lazy with this game you have my apologies ill try to correct my behavior soon

[Alchemist]

All game days have a set deadline of 14 real-life days. If no voting majority is reached by then, there will be no lynch.

yeayea

well we need to lynch someone

[Alchemist]

ETA, syndrome?

vote: paul

WHISKERS IS TOWN GUYS

TRUST ME

[Alchemist]

ETA SYNDROME

[Alchemist]

oh nvm duh it updates automatically

okay he's L-1

[Alchemist]

CYNIC IS HERE

THE VOTES ARE HERE

[Alchemist]

Cynic. Talk to me mang

[Alchemist]

L-1 I think because whiskers is on psyche like a dumbass

(further proof he's town)

[Alchemist]

Why is BK scum?

He probably isnt its a shit vote anyone voting BK is a fucking shit obstructionist

Look I'm gonnna be honest. I've been putting this game off. I've been ignoring it. But I can tell you I have a godly townread on Whiskers. Dude is so fucking town. His initial post on lane/subsequent reactions, his countless townslips, his activitity. I'm on Paul right now because I dont like the idea of lynching Whiskers. At all. I dont have some amazing scumread on Paul either but we have a ML and we should fucking use it.

WTF is CC even on about?

GUYS ITS EITHER WHISKERS OR PAUL AT THIS POINT

I DONT THINK YOU REALLY THINK WHISKRS SCUM

ITS MAN UP TIME

[Alchemist]

FOS PAPI WTF

WTF HE JUST FUCKING LEFT

[Alchemist]

Nothing has changed but I want this to be on the most recent page, near the top.

Day 1 Vote Count #14

Whiskers (5)

- Cynic Clinic, lane0168, Papi Bear, Psyche, LordChronos

Paul Atreides (4)

- Dazzy, Whiskers, BK201, kondi2424

BK201 (2)

- Elmo TeH AzN, Paul_Atreides

lane0168 (1)

- Alchemist

Not Voting

- Chrimi

Day 1 deadline:

(expired on 2012-06-12 01:42:33)

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With

13

alive it takes

7

to lynch.

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43 minutes. And Alchem's right. Sigh.

[Alchemist]

PAPI YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS RIGHT NOW

[Alchemist]

papi you need to vote paul

NL is fucking TARDED

PEDIT: ty whiskers he's L-1 now

[Alchemist]

WTF WHISKERS GET OFF THE COMMADORE64

ITS UPTO CYNIC AND PAPI NOW

INB4 THEY MAN DOWN

[Alchemist]

(expired on 2012-06-12 01:42:33)

[Alchemist]

Vote: CC

Should be pretty obvious after yesterday and the flip that CC is mafia.

[Alchemist]

unvote

I just realized we're in what, mylo?

IMO other monk claims, see if he has any ccs, and we go from there.

2 mafia, 2 werewolves, 6 town. - 10 players. Assuming they dont kill each other, we're down another 3 players and the situation is 3:2:2 (4). Mod, what happens then? Do mafia and werewolves joint? Is town endgamed? How the fuck is this setup balanced?

[Alchemist]

O_O'

Need to reread, lol

[Alchemist]

Why would they cross kill when they can just claim who they are?

Assuming 3:2:2 scum could make it 0:2:2, what happens then?

[Alchemist]

I just do not get this setup at all.

It seems impossible for us to win.

4 scum? ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Alchemist]

vote: papi bear

ughhhhhhhhhh i might replace out since im not really playing this game

[Alchemist]

Vote: Lane

Isn't it 50/50 he's scum?

[Alchemist]

I will admit by the rules there's a chance I'm Mafia, but the truth there is known only to myself.

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

CAN YOU BE ANY MORE SCUM?

BURN THIS GUY. NOW.

[Alchemist]

DID YOU GUYS MISS THE PART WHERE LANE IS NOOBSCUM AND JACKAL BASICALLY JUST ADMITTED TO BEING MAFIA

[Alchemist]

Note, Mod, that I'm still V/LA for a little over 24 hours.

Alchemist, give it up. He's not today's lynch.

KONDI+LANE SCUMTEAM

PAPI+[CHRONOS/BK/WHOEVER]

GG I WIN

[Alchemist]

I will admit by the rules there's a chance I'm Mafia, but the truth there is known only to myself.

If you seriously cannot see this as obvscum, you are truly awful at mafia.

[Alchemist]

logic has nothing to do with it

basic semantic analysis, word choice, etc

i'm in two other games right now and I dont have the patience nor the time to hold hands

just take it from someone who is really good at this game

Seriously read that sentence over and over again and hopefully you'll get it

[Alchemist]

why would the werewolves kill him? that makes no sense

scum shouldnt need to resort to killing other scum yet

[Alchemist]

seriously he admitted he is scum what dont you get

I will admit by the rules there's a chance I'm Mafia, but the truth there is known only to myself.

"I WILL ADMIT BY THE RULES THERE IS A CHANCE IM MAFIA"
"I WILL ADMIT BY THE RULES"

~ acknowledgement of my premise

"but the truth there is known only to myself."
"but"

~ Obligatory attempt at being loigical/sounding town but comes off horribly

Lane was exactly the same in many respects. Just reeked of noobscum. Jackal is almost identical. Shit is elementary.

[Alchemist]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh if he's the other monk why would we waste the lynch on him? if he were a mafia monk the werewolves would take care of him?

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

you're scum arent you

[Alchemist]

also note the capitilization of Mafia

god he's so scum

come ON

[Alchemist]

i hope our replacements breathe some life into this game cuz FUCK im starting to get mad

i wobbled on my lane read a little at the start of the day but now i remember when i liked him for scum so much

[Alchemist]

woot ^^

next time you play scum, at least TRY

thats pretty shitty of you

[Alchemist]

>kondi still not voting lane after he just gamethrew and said he's scum

[Alchemist]

dude admitted he's scum

what more do you want

3 scum + lane/jackal

they are probably on this wagon as this is multiball

dazzle you are just being paranoid. the dude basically admitted defeat "Fine" ~ he's scum. dont overthink it.

[Alchemist]

Show me the fuckn games, links please ~

He's still scum. Your point is irrelevant. He just admitted he was scum (in terms that werent blatant) but he did so nonetheless from my perspective.

[Alchemist]

elmo. come on dude.

3 scum, 4 town. lets break it down:

We herpderp and lynch town today, it becomes 3v3 (2 werewolves 1 mafa 2nks). three things can happen here by my reckoning. lets assume 1 maf kills town and 1 maf kills maf. it'd be 2v2 or 2v1v1 - both of these are unwinnable situations for the town (day breaks 4 people lynch a maf, maf kills, 1town1scum gg). maf kills 2 towns, gg mafia draw together. mafia cross kill each each other, making it 3v1 - which would be the best outcome giving an ML before lylo.

We lynch a werewolf today, it becomes 4v1v1 (1 maf, 1 wolf, 2nks). here there is a chance mafgroups can cross kill each other and we automatically win, unlike the above. if not, the situation is 2v1v1 (unwinnable for town maf draw-victory) or 3v1. (very winnable for town).

We lynch a mafia today, it becomes 4v2 (2 werewolves 1nk). we will move into 5man lylo with 2 wolves and 3 town. Not as attractive as a 3v1 situation but more solid

Its asbolutely paramount we dont mislynch today. No hasty lynches. No not talking. I want everyone talking. Also:

YO MAF. YOU THINK YOU CAN USE ME AS ML FODDER? HUE FUCKING HUE NICE TRY BUT ACTUALLY IM PRETTY GOOD AT THIS GAME YOU ARE GONNA GET SQUASHED LIKE THE CHUMPS YOU ARE.

Vote: Dazzy

Come at me Dazzy. Come at me. Tell me why you aren't scum.

[Alchemist]

Basically I'm looking for mafia. Not wolves. I think I know who the wolves are.

Dazzy, why didn't you vote for Jackal again?

[Alchemist]

wat

Papi is a lurky little scumfuck and probably a werewolf with CC

[Alchemist]

Papi what the fuck I saw you reading the thread

Post you little weasel

Vote: Papi

[Alchemist]

Ok.. You got me lurking.. But I'll say that I'm not a scum..

IS THIS A FUCKING JOKE?

[Alchemist]

like you have to be trolling me right now

i cant believe you'd be that bad as town to right that sentence

[Alchemist]

"But you'll say you aren't scum"?

Like really?

1. is english your first language
2. if not how well can you speak english
3. how long have you played mafia
4. where and how have you played mafia before this game

[Alchemist]

So I'll take that as english isn't your first langauge?

[Alchemist]

what is your native language

[Alchemist]

vote: dazzy

[Alchemist]

please do

[Alchemist]

welp. well maxwell is town

and I THINK papi is just derp town

@elmo. this leaves things pretty open and shut xD

[Alchemist]

CC+BK for wolves
(dat wifomy post from BK, dat whiskers interaction from CC)

Elmo cant be. If you are, well, fuck you man and I cant read for shit.

[Alchemist]

Bk, if I'm fucking town and you're an idiot if you dont realize that.

If we lynch a werewolf, there is a chance we can automatically lose during the night. I dont want to take that risk.

If we lynch a mafia, its cut-and-dry and we have lylo tomorrow plain and simple. Assuming I dont get NK'd, which I probably will thinking about it - I can win for the town in that situation.

I'm squirrely on Papi|BK ugh need to think

[Alchemist]

Also there is a slim chance Elmo is a werewolf but I dont think thats the case

[Alchemist]

what a buttmunch

that isn't gonna fly

vote: CC

[Alchemist]

Just vote CC there is no way in fuck he's town. I'd bet my life on it.

[Alchemist]

dazzy hasn't posted

i cant be sure he is scum

i'm 100% positive CC is scum.

[Alchemist]

look at this guy

completely evading me

SCUM FUCKING FOUND YOU CANT HIDE BRO

[Alchemist]

I dont care if he's a werewolf. Or if he's mafia. He's scum. Trying to specifically lynch a certain scumgroup a game like this is pretty much impossible. HE IS SCUM THOUGH. I'm not going to risk being wrong. We can get fucked during the night, but there is always a chance they'll cross-kill or semi-cross kill.

[Alchemist]

@maxwell

What the fuck.

The fuck it does.

What are you confused about.

CC trying to adhom/playing down my argument

[Alchemist]

CC is blatant scum just like Jackal/Lane was. Please trust me on this.

[Alchemist]

BK, do you think CC is town?

[Alchemist]

Also how was my logic flawed? I was perfectly right. Do you think I wanted to lynch him because of that? Do you really think that had a lot to do with it?

[Alchemist]

Do you guys really think we can choose who we lynch, either werewolves or mafia? I mean its nice in theory but do you honestly think we can fucking decipher between the scumteams? I know I cant. I thought I could. Dazzy still hasn't posted. I have 3 STRONG townreads. Thats all I got. Papi is a fuckhead, I dont know. HURR ME PLEIGH MAFIA ME NO ENGLISH. There is 1 town between Papi/CC/BK. Whoever you are lets please lynch obvscum CC.

pedit: its the truth? I dont see your big hangup. that wasn't my "logic" at all. i had a scumread on lane since day 1. I was trying to reinspire interest on him. my logic for voting was his his semantic/sentence structure read "HEY LOOK AT ME IM NOOBSCUM AS FUCK"

[Alchemist]

Papi/CC/BK/Dazzy*

[Alchemist]

Papi/BK/Dazzy*

ugh

[Alchemist]

POST FUCKING 13

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p4080094

POST FUCKING 96 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 4#p4090124

POST FUCKING 103 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p4091626

POST FUCKING 166 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 8#p4101928

POST FUCKING 167 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p4101966

POST FUCKING 170 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 9#p4101989

POST FUCKING 214 https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p4106895

u dumb bro or just not reading the thread?

[Alchemist]

Hey buttmunch~

CC isn't town, you'd have to be an autistic idiot to think otherwise. Just ISO him. I dont have the patience to hold hands. You'll come around eventually, hopefully.

[Alchemist]

Alchemist, CC isn't saying much about your vote because you haven't presented a single real reason for him being scum and the change makes no sense whatsoever

Its not blatantly obvious?

Do you think I'm the type of player to make walls?

I REALLY WANT YOU TO BE TOWN BRO PLEASE BE TOWN

[Alchemist]

Hey remember when we started to wagon CC the other day and he was posting in the thread and got REALLY FUCKING QUIET AND EVASIVE REAL FAST

LOL EVER SINCE WHISKERS HE HAS KEPT HIS HEAD DOWN

[Alchemist]

Alchemist's posting is starting to look incredibly forced though.

MAYBE BECAUSE IM THE ONLY ONE ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME

FUCK THIS TOWN

[Alchemist]

I DONT OPERATE ON LOGIC

YOU CANT FIND SCUM LOGICALLY THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS

YOU CAN BE LOGICALLY WHEN DISCERNING ROLES AND PIECING TOGETHER THINGS BUT ALL READS SPRING FROM INTUITION

SEMANTIC ANALYSIS ON CC TELLS ME HE ISNT BEING GENUINE

"OKAY HERE GOES"?

"DOESN'T MAKE YOU RAGE?"

"I CHANGED MY VOTE TO DAZZY, BUT IT DIDNT MATTER WHO I CHANGED IT TO"

YOUR WHOLE POST IS A CONSTANT CONTRADICTION YOU JUST DONT KNOW IT

THATS HOW GOOD I AM

[Alchemist]

So the wolves kill him Night 1, and now I have no reads. I was so sure of myself, and then it came apart. I had no other reads, so I could do nothing but keep quiet.

Can your sentence structure be any more broken? You're so nervous. You're so afraid of slipping it. You're so obviously scum.

Please sheep me guys.

If you want to win, sheep me.

[Alchemist]

"HEY GUYS ITS MYLO IVE LURKD 2 DAYS STRAIGHT AND I HAVE NO READS"

FUCKING LOL

[Alchemist]

Dazzy actively avoiding this thread

sigh

[Alchemist]

Elmo is town 100%

[Alchemist]

Papi is a shit vote. CC is scum and you know it.

[Alchemist]

if its 2-1-1 during the day the game is over and a scum draw fyi

at least i think it is

[Alchemist]

vote: papi

whatever we probably lose gg scum u win

[Alchemist]

DA BEAST IS UNLEASHED

gg all, my first scum game on mafiascum ^.^

[Alchemist]

I like 2 day nights personally. 3 is a bit meh.

[Alchemist]

the logic doesnt really follow

i wanted to lynch scum, thats p much it. i was scumhunting.

grats you called me on scum but what did you do about it ^_^

[Alchemist]

He was the most active player and one of the best in the game.