Open 422: Polygamist Mafia (Game Over)

[yellowbounder]

VOTE: charter

Scum is always top of the list.

[yellowbounder]

What do yall think about mass claim?

We're still on page one. Isn't it just a bit early?

[yellowbounder]

Exactly what grand ulterior motive would Arugula be hoping to achieve here, Malee?

Maybe none? Or like I said, trying to make TAM's comment less important, even futile. But I'd like Arugula to answer. That vote seems a little bit extreme to me.

Extreme? You're at two votes, we need to get out of the random stage as quickly as possible. A vote's a great tool to spark people to say something, to expose scum who may make a slip or sommat.

UNVOTE: charter
VOTE: Malee

[yellowbounder]

Yellow you can still answer my question

Why was/is it too early for massclaim?

I wanted to see who would parrot the wiki and who actually had thought about it.

Maybe more towards late D1 would be a better idea.

Explain this

Emphasis mine. Your original proposal was apparently not about actually asking for mass claim, but just provoking reactions?
People have already made good points; mass claim now would frustrate our ability to do individual reads, which is counter productive, all we need to do is catch ONE scum, and we win.

[yellowbounder]

OK

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Snake

Everyone votes him in their next post or explains why they think the guy who wanted an exact start time is lurking through the game hardcore.

Cute. There are people who haven't posted yet, and the game's only been going for three days.

Let's not be so twitchy, eh? I admit, people could be posting a bit more, not naming any names, but now is not the time for a lurker wagon.

[yellowbounder]

Let's not be so twitchy, eh? I admit, people could be posting a bit more, not naming any names, but now is not the time for a lurker wagon.

Hey

yellowbounder:

without getting so thorough into theory, when

is

the time for lurker wagons? I'm looking for a short answer.

Short answer: Difference between lurking, posting enough to not get replaced, not posting anything of any real significance; and an inactive player, one that will soon be replaced? Certainly feels like after three days it's a little too soon to get a "barely there" read.

Although, Snake should post.

Fun fact: I have the capacity to literally shit all over you.

I can too, fuckers

Oh,

good

(!)

Got anything useful or helpful to contribute?

[yellowbounder]

I'll ignore him but he spoiled it for me. I was just fishing for reactions, but Fennin's actions destroyed everything. So nope, I'm not going to vote Aru over that, it would be just the same as his vote on TAM, extreme

I'll actually vote for yellowbounder

VOTE: yellowbounder

Jumped on the wagon and skimmed. See post #51 & #52.

Seems more scummy than Aru, and remember, we only have to lynch one scum to win the game.

I haven't been "jumping on the wagon". You were acting scummy, in my eyes, I put a vote down. A

second

vote. It's barely even a wagon.

Haven't been skimming either, been reading this thread over and over. Don't know what to make about Malee/Fennin; feel that saying TAM is posting too much is a bit harsh.

[yellowbounder]

#43 and #45 are posts that any sane town would hang you for.

Gnight.

I don't get it.
Well, I do, they're posts that have very little proffered opinion, saying something WITHOUT actually saying anything. But I wouldn't say that's an automatic scumtell, I mean, I probably post things that have little actual opinion offered.

Is it really

that

bad in your eyes?

I'm seeing a lot arguments start to turn emotional here. Getting locked in emotional fights with people does not help town. Let's stay rational.

^

[yellowbounder]

UNVOTE: Malee
I have, honest to god, very few reads on people, and I'm not entirely sure I understand where this TAM/Malee paring came from.
But I don't want a lynch happening while I'm unsure. Going to reread the thread. Again.

[yellowbounder]

I am interested to hear what the replacement's view on their past selves, and also on the The Acting Method wagon, are.

[yellowbounder]

Yellow: - What's up with taking your vote off of Malee like that? It didn't look like a lynch was at all inevitable there.

Yeah, at the time it felt like it was gaining momentum, and I wasn't entirely happy with having a lynch happen until I was fully up to speed. I guess my feelings were off.

[yellowbounder]

It didnt show me your post for some reason. But i bet if snake and charter got more attention...someone would come out and defend them. A single vote isnt gonna do jack though, and nothings gonna do anything if the idea is immediately shot down

What idea are you talking about here?

[yellowbounder]

That we should be attacking the lurkers! U and b&b included!
Both of you: who do u think is scum and why? Who do u think is town and why?

I'm talking about u too slander, sitting back and waiting for TAM isn't helping us. I want them to claim too, but surely u have an opinion on jal, nyal, me, etc.

I take offence that I'm lurking, I've been trying to post every day in this game, I don't have the volume that some of the other people have been having.

You post very... enthusiastically, and proclaim that obviously you've been noticable, and you don't know the names of anyone, because CLEARLY you are the best. It comes across a little grating. I'm not voting you yet, but you seem kind of eager. Maybe it's your playstyle.

Haven't got any reads on Jal or Nyal. I keep rereading the thread, and mostly all I see is Malee and TAM, and people talking about them.

[yellowbounder]

I don't care if u were to only post once every three days, so long as we understand where u stand with other players. So far, I know u voted carter and malee...but theres so many other players! If a mass claim were to happen, we would get almost no info about u. Meanwhile ud be able to tell tons about me.

Also ill say this now. I'm trying a more aggressive style this game since I was fairly passive in my last one. I think I may be getting carried away, and I'm pissing everyone off, but the attention and opinions I'm generating about me are good for the town imo.

I'm still not that plussed on what exactly a mass claim gets us. We already know that one of the other people in this game are town, and some of the pairing are more obvious than others, but what does mass claiming do, exactly? We pick the scummiest seeming pair?

[yellowbounder]

If u think so, why wouldn't u just vote me? Do u have any opinions on anyone btw?

Also yellow gut feels town to me.

Stop feeling my guts.

Also ill say this now. I'm trying a more aggressive style this game since I was fairly passive in my last one.

Record (W-L)
Town: 0-0
Mafia: 1-0

Seems like slip.

Slandaar, you've seem fairly consistent on your request for TAM and Malee/Hiraki to confirm lovers or not. What would a confirmation or denial mean for you, respectively?

[yellowbounder]

@Salamence20 - Please get an avatar.

@Hiraki - I object to you calling my previous reticence to go lurker hunting

at that particular point

a scumtell. We were very early into the game at that point, I thought it was just a lot of bravado. Now, a lurker hunt would be more appropriate, I admit.

[yellowbounder]

Oh boy. The big boy of the game.

[yellowbounder]

Malee (4): Arugula, Yellowbounder, Slandaar, Charter (L-3)
The Acting Method (1): GreyICE (L-6)

The Acting Method (3): GreyICE, Nyalite, BridgesandBaloons (L-4)
Hiraki (3): Arugula, Slandaar, Charter (L-4)

Malee(Hiraki): Aru/Yellow/Slan/Charter
TAM: Grey/Nyal/Bridges

They are either town/town or scum/scum

People not on the wagons
Malee/TAM/JD/Jal/Snake

Remove Snake or JD; remove JD and you have a likely scumteam remove Snake who is probably lovers with Yellow and you don't

Yellow; lovers with Snake or not?

Before I say anything else, I don't understand the point you're making with all these match ups. So Aru/Yellow/Slan/Charter are either town/town, or scum/scum?

I don't understand this post at all.

[yellowbounder]

My style last game was designed to make people like me, be easily ignored, and shamelessly sheeping the ic and excusing every mistake by being just a silly noob. It worked really well, but does jack shit to find scum. I only ever attacked people that were already being attacked and often used the wiki to justify it.

My style this game has me making enemies with almost every player in the game,

attacking those that are being ignored and sliding by, and ultimately bringing on a ton of attention to myself. I have no experience on this site as town, and wanted to see how people react to such a style. At face value its obviously a town style. U can argue I'm being needlessly tricky and being bad scum....but that's a bit of a stretch considering I saw 4-5 players that people were happy letting sit on the sidelines. Fennin was one such player as well.

@other things: I don't see how u can consider hiraki to be scummy, given the reaction he had to be called town.

Are you really certain that you've made "enemies" of everyone else in the game? I mean, is this a thing you actually believe, or are you just exaggerating?

[yellowbounder]

I know DJD is reckless and if this wasn't lylo I would vote for him too.

This isn't LyLo. If we lynch any mafia today, town win. If we hit a townie, we move to Day 2.

Then

it's LyLo.

[yellowbounder]

I'm half considering suggesting that we all mass-claim now. Based mostly on considering how dropping hints, and speculation on lover pairs seems to be a thing. What does everyone else think?

@Hiraki - I am saddened that bravado is apparently a "big word". It's not like I complained about the lack of

gumption

from certain players. Or how some of us are offering empty

platitudes

. You see? "gumption" and "platitudes",

those

words are showing off my, as you put it, "e-cock".

[yellowbounder]

FUCK IT. I can't stand defending this moron.

I'm scum, I want to die. Kill me.

Fuck you DJD.

Sorry Hiraki, I wanted to play a better game, but I can't stand him. Kill me, end my misery.

What is this I don't even

[yellowbounder]

Snake and I.

[yellowbounder]

Arugula, Slandaar, and Jal were all voting for him before the fake claim. Aka scummy.

I tended to think that people that opportunistically jump on a bandwagon tended to be scummier? But yeah, in the face of the bogus scum claim, everything was null after that.

@GreyICE - What

exactly

are you accusing the TAM/Hiraki pair of?

[yellowbounder]

HEY ASSHATS

TWO PEOPLE ARE CROSSVOTING IN LYLO

MOTHERFUCKING LYLO

DISCUSS

This is

really

not helpful.

@GreyICE Stop derping around and tell us what you're thinking.

Yes, please do.

@Slandaar - I admit that Snake's lurking so very heavily is anti-town, but there are far scummier people left alive.

[yellowbounder]

Maybe you should use that caps lock to try and get yellow and B&B to post.

I'm sorry.

General off-topic and unhelpfulness.

Especially against JD.

Please, find me examples where I was unhelpful in the JD case. I spent most of my time trying to get clarification on his stated positions.

Hiraki, you seemed to be gunning for me the instant you hit the ground, complaining that I was defending Snake. Would you say I should have instead pushed my own lover under a bus?

Yellow/Snake own up you're scum.

What did you talk about in your qt pregame?

This, is an example of an unhelpful post. You've already claimed that me and Snake are a scumpair, you're just posting for the sake of it.

To be honest, in my eyes, it's a toss up between Hiraki/TAM, and Malee/Bridges as the pair I'd like to vote for.

More Hiraki/TAM, mostly because I haven't gotten a read on Bridges yet.

Actually lets freeze votes at the moment and just discuss things.

^ which is why I'm not voting them yet. Don't want scum to come along and quick lynch if it's the wrong pair.

[yellowbounder]

Oh whoops.

I mean, Hiraki/TAM, and Slandaar/Bridges.

[yellowbounder]

Yellow explain to me why Snake asked for an exact start time if he doesn't have a qt to post in?

I want a sensible explanation to explain someone asking for a start time then posting 0 content the whole game. It just makes no sense unless hes scum.

Snake I don't want you answering this, thanks.

So you're asking someone

other

than Snake to explain his behaviour? For that matter, you're asking someone who

mod-confirmed knows

he's town, so it's not like I'm suspecting dark hidden motives.

What do you expect to get out of this line of questioning, Slandaar? Seriously. Ask him.

[yellowbounder]

There is a lot of posting, and it's almost slightly intimidating to catch up on.

Since I haven't had a vote on anyone: VOTE: Slandaar

I almost feel this is slightly reactionary, considering how he's been deadset on Yellowsnake the whole time, but I don't like much of his reasoning.

And if I hear any more about how me and Snake

must

be scum, because we didn't immediately confirm that WE WERE TOWNIES WITH QTs, I swear I'll complain about it some more.

Spending all this bluster on people for not stating the null tell that "I am town" is NOT HELPFUL.

@Yellow Please jump in here.

I swear the days I spent refreshing the thread, nothing happens, and then when I go away for like 12 hours, suddenly POSTS.

[yellowbounder]

Nyalite, you're a little mean.

But sans the sarcasm, your description of the QT stuff sums up my opinion quite nicely.

[yellowbounder]

His posts aren't telling of alignment, and I'm starting to feel uncomfortable about that.

Don't worry, he went V/LA, that will help!

Nyalite, I'm starting to worry that my approval of your sarcasm barbs are clouding my ability to determine your alignment.

Also, change your horrible avatar.

Thank you for saying this, I think only a lover could soften the blow saying something like that.

Joking aside, I'm not entirely sure what other positions I could put forward?
I've already said: I think we should probably lynch Slandy Bridges or Tamriki.

Also, I just reread the thread again, and realised that Bridges was here from the start. For some reason, I thought he'd replaced in.

[yellowbounder]

Arugula is significantly louder and more aggressive than Jal, I'd say. But aggression tends to be a null tell.
I haven't felt you've tunnelled him as much as he's been complaining about. (Also, +1 for toaster)

If you count meta, Jal doesn't seem different from the bunny's other play on this site. Succinct. Again, another null tell.

I'm just on fire with these null tells today.

[yellowbounder]

@Yellow: What are your thoughts on Greyalite?
Why Slandaar over Tamraki?

Constructive posting, sensible arguments. Not on my scum list at present.

Slandaar, I've personally read to be scum, while Tamraki, a lot of other people have made convincing arguments. Trust your own gut first, I guess?

One last thing: Yellow - you've read my games?

Just to look at your usual meta. Not before this game, I assure you.

It wasn't a trap as such.

But once he voted me and I decide to vote him he is locked in/trapped. Its no coincidence the timing of his vote he only voted me after I moved vote in that tiny window, so I moved back and now I have got what I want. Yellow and me in 1v1.

I don't actually understand this trap that's apparently been sprung. This isn't 2v1 LyLo, I can move my vote if I see reason enough.

[yellowbounder]

I actually have some time now where I'm not lurking like a boss (My sarcasm)

I'm going to VOTE: BridgesAndBaloons while I check up on some things.

Why not Slandaar? Is this just a way of indicating your intent to vote for Slandybridges without actually placing it where it's meaningful? A

FoS

would be fine for that, if a little cute.

[yellowbounder]

Is the answer Slandaar's general adherence to logic none of us understand, and a lack of response to things we ask of him?

Unless I've forgotten the difference between a scumtell and a scumslip.
(Jal: Y U NO BUNNY AVATAR, is that Starbuck?)

[yellowbounder]

I don't know, maybe he's just following his lover?

[yellowbounder]

I have argued against all of these points before, and doing so again would just give them legitimacy that they do not deserve. Saying them again does not constitute a new argument.

I resent the implication that I have posted zero content of my own, thank you very much. Posting three times rambling on about points you made last page, and the page before that does not equal content either.

[yellowbounder]

And unique content is what? A sudden insight into someone's scummy posting? Viewpoints, feelings, discussion? This isn't a game where we shout at each other, surely there's some, you know, debate?

The meta on debating on debating is not lost on me.

[yellowbounder]

FUCK IT. I can't stand defending this moron.

I'm scum, I want to die. Kill me.

Fuck you DJD.

Sorry Hiraki, I wanted to play a better game, but I can't stand him. Kill me, end my misery.

What is this I don't even

Its a scumclaim.

Lynch.

His response to the Scumclaim was scummy as all hell too, think about how scum would react then go read what he said.

Right, so my hesitation to hammer someone that could have been a townie-troll or gambit or w/e was scummier than you pushing for a lynch? If you're scum, you'd have more to gain from a townie mislynch, and you were pushing it.

EDIT:

So, you can't.

How surprising

Oh I see what you did there.

[yellowbounder]

So, you can't.

How surprising

Also, in case I'm not communicating effectively, I think I am posting "unique content", and do so nearly every time I call you out on your repetitive credos.
And your constant repetitive baseless attacks against me and my lover for

too many pages

is getting in the way of serious business to find and lynch the scum. And that's almost the very definition of

not pro-town

.

EDIT:

Right, so my hesitation to hammer someone that could have been a townie-troll or gambit or w/e was scummier than you pushing for a lynch? If you're scum, you'd have more to gain from a townie mislynch, and you were pushing it.

Yep

It is called fence sitting

Did you say hes town? nope, did you say hes scum? nope

What did you do?
'I DUNNO YOU GUIZ WHATS GOING ON HERE???????????????'

Fencesitting during one of the most important parts of the game.

I have stated my positions before, on who is scummy and who is not, and my vote is on

you

.

And frankly, the more you say, the more likely it is to stay there unless someone lays down a hella convincing argument otherwise.

[yellowbounder]

Hey TAM/Hiraki

If someone votes you in LyLo, and you're not quicklynched

Is the person voting you scum or town?

Which case in particular are you talking about?

[yellowbounder]

Actually Bridges, it makes perfect sense.

I'm confident that I'm town.

I don't need to try to beg for my life because of this.

If I was scum, I'd be scrambling to try to convince people I was town.

But because I'm confident in my towniness, I'm not going to bother.

I object to this notion.

Part of the process is trying to show why you are acting in a pro-town manner, trying to hunt down scum. This is not Day 1 in a regular game, where if you're lynched as a Townie, it gives the town valuable information.

This is LyLo

, and

we cannot afford to hit any town

members. Stating that you are town is a

null tell

. Anyone who states anything else other than

I am town

, is generally lynched (unless SK magic or w/e).

You need to show us WHY you are town; act in a consistent and helpful manner, ask questions of people, call people out on their crap, investigate double standards, follow slips, use the information the mod's given you.

If you are going to be lynched, and you are a townie, you damned well beg for your life.

[yellowbounder]

Even more likely something scum would write to their scum-partner?

Right, so you're proposing Yellowsnake and a Tamriki scumteam? Is that what you're saying? (I think it's a dumb idea, btw.)

I'm saddened that "trying too hard" is a scumtell apparently.

[yellowbounder]

No, not by Nyalite which is what we're talking about. It doesn't matter though. The burden is on you to go through the thread and back-up your piss-poor accusations instead of trying to hand-wave it away.

And saying,

Either way, I'm pretty sure I've given a reason some time or other on Arugula for certain.

Doesn't even sound like you're

that

certain you've even done this prior.

Where has everyone else gone to anyway?

I'm still around, I just haven't seen anything that's particularly worth commenting on?

Certainly I've realised that interesting with some people is a lost cause, because they don't adhere to logic or reason, and require you to repeat yourself over and over and over *snip because it's not funny* and over again.

[yellowbounder]

You mean beside your arbitrary logic, inexplicable offence at me defending my lover and unhelpful attitude?

[yellowbounder]

HAI CDB.

Alright, this is long over due. Let's do this and watch what happens Grey.


VOTE: Arugula

Well this is interesting.

Arugula however has made a total 180 today. I feel like as soon as some attention was called to him he has ducked down.

That's a fair point, I would like to see some more from Arugula.

He's been pushing for a TAM lynch for some time, and that doesn't seem to have taken.
My lover seems happy enough voting TAM, I need some more convincing first; TAM tends towards too much meta anyway, almost like he's attempting a distraction? Meta is a null read though.

Swear we haven't seen as much from Hiraki either.

[yellowbounder]

Slandaar's whole game has been spent picking up small points which sound interesting but aren't actually as slam-dunk as he thinks they are, before barking loudly and repetitively about them until they get proved wrong then moving onto the next one. Today he's quite clearly got his teeth into yellowbounder because he thinks that he's a lynchable target due to his natural noncommitment. Our lover pair, with Snake here before, is pretty obviously a wet dream for scum-Slandaar.

So good, it should be said twice.

[yellowbounder]

This is actually fairly accurate depiction of my Town Meta, so the case is I am town?

Or you could just be cherrypicking something from your "town meta" that you have done, while still being scum.
Meta is null; brandishing it in such a way is kinda scummy.

[yellowbounder]

It seems like you're complaining that my lover is not calling me scum due to my "lurking".

My lover trying to get me lynched is, if I'm not mistaken, against his win condition.

[yellowbounder]

@Slandaar - I admit that Snake's lurking so very heavily is

anti-town

, but there are far scummier people left alive.

Yellow implies here that Snake is scummy.

Yellow also says far scummier people are alive but ... who? he never does say.

No, I said it was anti-town. Look, it's right there WRITTEN down, I even bolded it so you could find it. Scummy != anti-town.
And, you are correct, I never did say who was scummier in that post. But I have commented,

since then

about how Hiraki's arbitary and random behaviour is annoying, I cannot read TAM for the life of me, Argula's aggression, and the constant banging Slandaar drum.

Slandaar's consistent mischaracterisation of my play and my lover's play is incredibly grating, and not funny.

[yellowbounder]

@Nyalite, despite what Slandaar may think, I'm perfectly happy to move my vote if a scummier pair (in this case person), turns up. But you'd have to convince me of a pair different from yellowbird.

[yellowbounder]

No, no, there's a difference between anti-town (NOT HELPFUL), and scummy (ACTIVELY NOT HELPFUL).

[yellowbounder]

I'm

saying if a scummier pair than Slandy Bridges turns up, I'll vote for them.

What are

you

saying?

[yellowbounder]

I would but I just see a bunch of bs talking.

No because frankly I stopped caring.

If I cared any less I would have replaced out.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Yellow


Arugula, if you are going to make a case at least pay attention and see that I clearly don't give a shite about your suspicion of me as it's crap and has only been crap since your first post.

TAM, it seems like you

want

people to vote you.

[yellowbounder]

Baloons, where did you go? I think there are about 4 rational people in this thread and you're one of them.

I swear the days I spent refreshing the thread, nothing happens, and then when I go away for like 12 hours, suddenly POSTS.

I swear the days you don't refresh the thread coincidentally coincide with the days you should be posting

Also the VC stuff was pretty ridiculous I probably hammer TAM once Yellow votes

In fact; Yellow vote TAM in next post, I guarantee I will hammer as soon as I see it.

yes 4 teams on a wagon is pretty lol, but I dont mind

You in Yellow?

What are you doing Slandaar? Seriously

[yellowbounder]

Then will yell at bridge to hammer

So you're now going to get your lover to hammer? Man, you didn't think this plan through did you.

[yellowbounder]

If you think TAM is scum, then you vote him.
Reserving your vote till later just shows you don't actually want to vote him, you'll probably just pounce on whatever anyone's actions are, as proof of their scumminess.

[yellowbounder]

I am voting you Yellow

Why are you not voting TAM? You think hes town? you think I am scum NOT with TAM/Hiraki and deciding to try and lynch TAM instead of stick on you the guy with 2 town votes? Ridiculous. I do not need to make crazy gambit in such a situation

Yellow is scum

Lynch him

Lets go

Stop holding the game up Yellow

Vote TAM

You're sending mixed messages.

YB, vote TAM.

Fine.
VOTE: The Acting Method

[yellowbounder]

OK GREY AND NYAL

I can't prove it yet as Bridge hasn't posted, but when he does he will prove beyond doubt it cannot be Aru/Sland team (TAM would be town and bridge would hammer)

YOU THEN NEED TO MOVE OFF ARU ONTO YELLOW

If you think Aru is scum then the only logical conclusion to a buddy in said scenario is Yellow.

If you then rethink TAM is scum, with who? Aru? no, me? no I just shifted 2 town off a town wagon, Its too much effort and ridiculous to do that. so its only leaves Yellow (very unlikely but possible distancing)

When this happens you 2 need to get on Yellow

He is confscum at that point

Literally.

Lynch him.

THAT IS THE PLAN

FOLLOW IT.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TAM

BRIDGE ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS POST TO SAY YOU SEE TAM IS L-1 THEN VOTE YELLOW, DO NOT BOTHER CATCHING UP JUST SHEEP ME

TAM you need to revote Yellow also.

Can someone who isn't Slandaar

please

explain to me what the hell Slandaar is talking about or proposing or doing?

For someone who wants me lynched, he's spending a lot of time placing his vote in other places, and... I don't even. The inconsistency, it's just too much. I'm sorry.

[yellowbounder]

Also Grey is lurking which makes me want to lynch TAM

But eh, its close, still think Yellow is the lynch of choice

I am amazed that you want to lynch me, this is clearly a departure from the rest of the day.

And until Bridges posts, your "only scum with TAMriki" clearness, isn't known.

[yellowbounder]

Because a large number of people told me to, Hiraki's attitude, and his weird play. Also no one else seems to be up for lynching you.

Also do you seriously think I am scum?

Yes.

[yellowbounder]

I'd give kudos to Grey and Nyalite for seeming the most town. Even in my scum filtered eyes, they seemed the most town.

Also, hugs for Slandaar. Maybe you'll be able to lynch me another game.

[yellowbounder]

I figured the TAM wagon would have backed up once it was pointed out that so many different teams were on it, that it had to be a scum driven wagon

I was so hesistant to jump on that wagon, it took three people all telling me to do so, in order for me to vote him.

[yellowbounder]

Hell hath no fury like Hiraki scorned.

[yellowbounder]

Also Salamance20 was truly terrible. I hate people who think it's fun to replace into a mafia game and then wreck the game for as many people as possible. Why am I not surprised his explanation was that he was "doing it for the lulz" (probably followed by 'well I would have been lynched anyway).

From this side of the fence, it seemed like a sort of desperate attempt to reveal scum in our reactions to his "claim", and make sure the town didn't spend forever on an inevitable lynch?

I didn't think a DoubleJD lynch was inevitable, though, I was quite surprised.

[yellowbounder]

Slandaar, seriously, I had no idea what you were talking about when you were talking about the QTs. Had I realised you were asking "what did you and Snake talk about in your QTs" I would have answered "secretive lover things".

And I did read the PMs, or at least was aware that everyone got a QT before we started. Honest to god. Game's over now.