Open - 430 RedPanda's SWitch mafia Game Over Flattened Elmo

[Dazzy]

No one, it's a tarp.

A big blue one.

Bubble, bubble, toil and (fuck no one's name rhymes with bubble)
er....
VOTE: ChaoticStar

[Dazzy]

So I was going to say lolscumslip wrt this v

SO WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS IS MAFIA

Which "one"? When we know there are two remaining mafia. Hmm.

But then I realised that's kinda silly, but still something to keep in the back of my mind.

McStab's pointed avoidance of the ongoing Shadow v. matt discussion also catches my attention.

With regards to said discussion, Shadow definitely gives le scum vibes, and Matt

does

(aren't italics prettier?) seem to be playing as he did in the last game I played with him (where he was town). I'll take a look at some of his other games before relying too heavily on this, but for now, I'll play along.

VOTE: Shadow

[Dazzy]

Actually I'm not sure I want him in range of a self-hammer based on is earlier bhehaviour.

UNVOTE:

[Dazzy]

wat

[Dazzy]

oh. "scum stalling a scumlynch"

Lol.

P-Edit: =/ I don't wanna

[Dazzy]

Trust you, that is

[Dazzy]

Well as much as I'd like to, trusting someone one p3 of a mafia game isn't exactly the best strategy unless you have ubertownread on them.

He was acting defeatist and self-voted at L-4, how do you see him reacting to being at L-1? If it comes down to it, I'd prefer someone who is going to be remaining in the game does the hammering

[Dazzy]

People... voting? How do lynches usually go through if not like that? I don't mind voting him, but I don't want him to self-hammer if he is scum before we've got more than a sentence out of half the players with respect to him.

You caught CS last game through mostly relational tells (I think). Let's say you're right and shadow is scum. None of those will exist if he dies within the next page.

[Dazzy]

Oh shush.

[Dazzy]

@Matt:

@Shadow: Thanks for the help. By the by, I don't think any one except for a very select few could possibly be "sure" you are scum, but you sure aren't helping your case.

I'll lay the hammer but I'd prefer to hear from people. Even just state if you agree/disagree with this lynch. Adding a why would be awesome.

[Dazzy]

I think it's poor play to lynch before everyone has had a say.

This.

That hammer was pretty AWESOME. I'm not sure how you go from voting one person to voting the person that they are attacking, either, but it was AWESOME.

[/sarcasm]

[Dazzy]

^^Mcstab still avoiding commenting on the lynch

[Dazzy]

I'm liking Dr for town. I'll be treating him as such until something changes my mind.

Dr

What changed to make McStab an idiot? Why is Elmo mafia? Why wasn't I on your reads list?

I'm guessing Matt was killed for being aggressive and leaderlike,

and the cop had he previously been investigated

. This is not good as we are now down to one PR. Of the two, I wonder if Whiskers was the sk kill, but not sure why they would be a target.

Back soon, leaving lunch.

Explain the bolded.

@PM, since you apparently learned so much from yesterday's lengthy and inclusive discussion, maybe you can tell us who you think should be lynched and why, hmm?

[Dazzy]

...
Your right. For the most part. So by him asking why I am mafia and not scum there's a problem there? And if your going as me for "mafia" what about Dazzy who read your post but also had something else to say about it.

Theres your team right there. Dazzy & Chaotic.

VOTE: Chaotic

Also I have some thoughts Ill save for aftergame.

I have no fucking idea what this is saying... Why am I scumbuddies with Chaotic?

Personally I thought CS's little misunderstanding of the roles was a town-tell or at least non-mafia tell. She's a new (though good) player, and I don't see her trying a misdirection like that.

Gunny, what are your thoughts on ^?

McStab is starting to annoy me.

[Dazzy]

Hmm, that VC just caught my eye. It does make elmo/chaotic/maestro/PM look iffy doesn't it.
Also I think we should be careful not to let PM out of our focus too much. Active lurking while town goes into a frenzy looking for someone else to go after would be a mighty attractive option for scum. And, oh look!

PM has 5 posts in other games since D2 started here.

[Dazzy]

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Your right. For the most part. So by him asking why I am mafia and not scum there's a problem there? And if your going as me for "mafia" what about Dazzy who read your post but also had something else to say about it.

Theres your team right there. Dazzy & Chaotic.

VOTE: Chaotic

Also I have some thoughts Ill save for aftergame.

I have no fucking idea what this is saying... Why am I scumbuddies with Chaotic?

Elmo is stretching stuff. True. He didn't give rat's ass about you but just tagged you on it.
But I'm sure he has his reasons. Let's hear them Elmo.

Note: I work 9 pm - 5 am EST. When I post I do it from work. Even then It was the fact that Dazzy read your post about calling me what it was. Im too fucking tired and lazy to read again. And due to the fact he found something else about the post or some shit. Stretching shit not really. And I didn't give a rat's ass and just put him in it. Wrong again. Seriously how about you go fucking read this game over and tell me who scum are. Right now with people asking for your opinions on shit just raises questions as well as your first post in this game.

Elmo still is making 0 goddamn sense. The hostility isn't appreciated either.

VOTE: PMysterious

[Dazzy]

Hi Code, thanks for replacing in.

As you've clearly noticed, there's fucking nothing to go on because someone decided they would hammer on page 3.

Said person has since lurked through D2 so far, and I would very much like to see them lynched if only so I don't have to deal with them anymore.

Gamestate is at 6/2/1, Cop, Doc, and Doc Switch(Maf) are dead. Vig, SK, Maf Cop/Vig Switches still alive.

My current scumspects include:
PM
Elmo
Possibly Tuber? Mostly just lack of stuff to look at I think.

Null or town on everyone else, and that's about it for me.
Gunny's gonna tell you to vote CS because of:

Dr

What changed to make McStab an idiot?

Why is Elmo mafia?

Why wasn't I on your reads list?

Slip.
VOTE: Elmo
Never said Elmo was Mafia. Said he was Scum.
Elmo and Chaoticstar team.

But I'll say he's townish because of

...

Dazzy

In case it was intent rather than poor sentence structure you wanted explaining; the Mafia could have investigated Matt overnight.

What is this? It's an open game and the mafia don't have an investigative role. You either aren't paying attention, or you want it to look like you aren't.

I had read all the role PMs, but somehow convinced myself that the mafia had both the switch and a similar power.

I honestly have no idea why most people are ignoring PM, but w/e.

The end.

[Dazzy]

First off, some responses:

203 wins post of the thread.

This.

Fuck sakes. Some of you guys never learn.

This.

VOTE: PMysterious
Giving the JigglyJuggler an extra squish on the face so that he dies for sure.

Lol.

Now to the game.
Twilight thoughts:
Townreads on Gunny and Chaotic/natalie still hold for me. I find my reads align with nat's quite well.
Code/Maestro give me good vibes, but nothing conclusive.
McStab is mehTown, especially after his big post that I am too lazy to find the number of.
Absta has climbed near the top of my scumList today. Weak case and then backing down on it

I'll back off. I must have had confirmation bias.
VOTE: Stab

here stand out, combined with my gut scumVibes from tuber. I don't like it.
I'm reasonably confident PM will flip scum. lolFakeClaim. That said, this was still too short of a day for my tastes, especially with all the replacements just coming in.
I still have pretty null read on split, but he had basically nothing posted today that I recall.
Elmo's vote on PM makes me agree with Nat that they are not scumbuddies.

I don't have the time/material to make anything much better at the moment. Sweet Troll Jegus these days have been short.

[Dazzy]

Absta's complete avoidance of the PM issue besides his "null" read in his catchup post and "attack" on code also points to him being scumbuddies with PM.

[Dazzy]

Fuck forgot to say

@MOD: Thank you for being so prompt with those replacements.

[Dazzy]

V/LA til Wednesday. Might be able to check in.

[Dazzy]

WWTMD?
The question we should all... not ask ourselves.

My V/LA has ended (fuck you summer school exams!), and I have returned... for the moment. I am now headed to a bar, just wanted to pop in and let you all know I'm still around.

See you tomorrow.

[Dazzy]

@Absta: Assume I'm town for a second. Taking your Nat read into account, who of Code and Elmo is the SK and why?

[Dazzy]

Here. Don't replace me bro. =\

Sorry

[Dazzy]

Oops

[Dazzy]

Hey guys.

Well done town, sorry for falling off at the end there, but you guys nailed it either way.

I'm not sure why Elmo thinks he would have survived if I'd stuck around, but ok then.

RedPanda - I'm not terribly happy about the replacement but I understand why you did it. Perhaps a bit more flexibility in the end game in the future would be good? Being replaced in the time it would normally take to get a prod caught me off guard.

Cheers everyone. Grats fellow townies.