Open 419 Diffusion of Power - Game Over

Natalie · Post Post #487 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:06 pm

Hi guys. I'll read up and post my thoughts ASAP.

P-edit: What is that supposed to mean?

Natalie · Post Post #492 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:58 pm

Ok, I've read a lot of past games and read through the wiki and this setup, so I think I should be helpful here.

These are my thoughts as I read this thing.
- I like IceGuy's logic at the beginning regarding Voidedmafia's horrible logic. Seems town.
- Venmar is repeating IceGuy.
- Om of the Nom's excuse of not reading in post 67 is a scummy, bad excuse.
- Now IceGuy's Om of the Nom push looks bad.
- Venmar's defense of Voidedmafia is poor
- Post 87 by Ser Arthur Dayne sums it up basically
- Post 95 by Venmar is weird. Why would he say Night 3 cop over any other night?
- Post 111 by 2birds1stone is terrible. I think that is called OMGUS.
- 2birds1stone is terrible. Venmar is scum because he wants him to be.
- Malakittens post 140 repeated everything that has already been said.
- Post 182 by absta looks like he doesn't want to be blamed if 2birds1stone turns out as town.
- Scott Brosius votes with everyone else and adds something stupid at the end to make him look original.
- I have consistenly disagreed with DeltaWave this whole time.
- Post 304 by Om of the Nom is the truth.
- Post 319 by Malakittens is really bad. She defends herself by using her past play.
- Post 360 by Venmar looks like he waited until Malakittens was two vote away from being lynched so he wouldn't be held responsible if she turns up town.
- Post 383 by IceGuy is bad. If I'm not wrong, isn't at least one of Venmar/FuDuzn scum?
- Post 387 by IceGuy is even worse. Especially the first part, where he is cautious about how he appears.
- Why are people so hung up on Delta's "town as fuck" comment about Scott? It seems pretty obvious he got an innocent check on him. Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
- Venmar's guilty on FuDuzn seems genuine. It doesn't make sense for him to lie at this point.

No, I don't have anything to report.

And sorry FuDuzn, I do believe Venmar.

I'll let people respond to this post before I put the last vote on FuDuzn.

Natalie · Post Post #496 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:14 pm

In post 493, IceGuy wrote:If you don't have anything to claim,

VOTE: FuDuzn

You have nothing to say about my catch-up post? Maybe others did. You should have let others respond before placing the last vote.

Natalie · Post Post #498 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:20 pm

Fine.

Natalie · Post Post #520 (isolation #4) » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:21 am

VOTE: IceGuy
I don't like how he is pushing for Venmar even though FuDuzn turned out to be scum.

Natalie · Post Post #536 (isolation #5) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:48 am

I agree with Venmar more.

Natalie · Post Post #560 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:20 pm

Absta voted me, forgot why he voted, and replaced out. What's up with that?

Natalie · Post Post #571 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:15 pm

I don't think Venmar did what you are accusing him of, Iceguy. I don't like how you keep harping on it either.

Natalie · Post Post #587 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:47 pm

I still think IceGuy is scum.

Natalie · Post Post #589 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:00 pm

Yes I have. I don't like your push on Venmar. He is pretty obvious town, and it seems like you are trying to get rid of a player you will have trouble getting rid of later.

Natalie · Post Post #591 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:16 pm

No. Venmar will probably be protected.

Natalie · Post Post #593 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:23 pm

FOR GETTING A GUILTY ON A SCUM AND CAUSING HIS LYNCH.

Are you being an idiot on purpose?

Natalie · Post Post #595 (isolation #12) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:48 pm

Because there was virtually no reason to do it besides earning towncred. FuDuzn wasn't under pressure, and to waste a partner when it isn't needed is just dumb.

Why are you so sure it

is

a gambit?

Natalie · Post Post #609 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:31 am

I still don't see why Venmar would do what he did if he were scum. I understand that he gets town cred, but FuDuzn had no pressure and was not going to be lynched. If Venmar did do this, then his other scumbuddy must be close to conftown, and there isn't anybody on the playerlist that fits that description.

Natalie · Post Post #612 (isolation #14) » Thu Jul 26, 2012 4:40 pm

Hello? Is anyone still there?

Natalie · Post Post #619 (isolation #15) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:01 am

I still highly doubt that Venmar is scum.

A Hellraiser/IceGuy scumteam seems almost too good to be true.

Natalie · Post Post #621 (isolation #16) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:22 pm

I want Scott, Ser, and Delta's opinion on Venmar v.s. IceGuy.

Natalie · Post Post #623 (isolation #17) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:31 pm

Well I wanted to see if your opinion changed or not.

Natalie · Post Post #635 (isolation #18) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:25 am

Deadline is the 3rd. The votes are pretty much split right now.

@Delta, Scott
Would you be willing to move onto IceGuy?

@Venmar
Would you be willing to move onto Hellraiser? I am strangely confident IceGuy/Hellraiser are the scumteam, but would prefer voting IceGuy.

Natalie · Post Post #650 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:55 am

I am voting you for trying to get a cop who got a guilty on scum lynched. I don't believe your gambit explanation. I think you are scum who is trying to get out an obvious townie lynched.

Natalie · Post Post #663 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:09 am

If I was scum with Venmar, I wouldn't make it so obvious. I genuinely think he is town and you are scum. All you do is write me off as posting no content and calling me scum. How can you call me scum if I haven't posted content?

Natalie · Post Post #676 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:29 am

@IceGuy
No, scum would get called out for not posting content. But I believe I have posted content.

@Hellraiser
Well you guys weren't buddying as heavily back when I thought you were scum together. Now I am thinking it is IceGuy and someone else.

Natalie · Post Post #683 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:43 am

In post 680, Hellraiser wrote:
In post 676, Natalie wrote:@Hellraiser
Well you guys weren't buddying as heavily back when I thought you were scum together. Now I am thinking it is IceGuy and someone else.

In fact you're flip-flopping all over the place.

In post 619, Natalie wrote:A Hellraiser/IceGuy scumteam seems almost too good to be true.

In post 635, Natalie wrote:@Venmar
Would you be willing to move onto Hellraiser? I am strangely confident IceGuy/Hellraiser are the scumteam, but would prefer voting IceGuy.

There's only 16 posts between those two and they were all filler.

Then you said what you just said just two pages later. Besides, if your case on IceGuy is this:

In post 650, Natalie wrote:I am voting you for trying to get a cop who got a guilty on scum lynched. I don't believe your gambit explanation. I think you are scum who is trying to get out an obvious townie lynched.

Why do you then suspect IceGuy instead of me?

No, I first suspected you and IceGuy as partners, but the more you buddied and the more I thought about it, I think it's less likely. IceGuy is scummier for coming up with Venmar's gambit and pushing it first, while writing me off as a scummy VI for posting no content.

P-edit:
I think Delta and Scott are town. SED is null, but could easily be scum.

Natalie · Post Post #704 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:37 am

@Hellraiser
If IceGuy is scum, then yes, that leaves Ser by default. I guess I could compromise on him, but I want Scott/Delta to weigh in on this.

Natalie · Post Post #718 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:47 pm

Alright. Let's get this IceGuy deadline lynch through.

Natalie · Post Post #758 (isolation #25) » Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:14 pm

Venmar, you can't push for SED/me as scum because we pushed the IceGuy lynch, when YOU were the biggest proponent of it.

That being said, Hellraiser could be scum who hopped on IceGuy's wagon looking for town cred.

But Ser has one too many town reads, and Delta pointed out a good contradiction in his stance on me.

Natalie · Post Post #762 (isolation #26) » Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:55 pm

In post 759, Venmar wrote:Where did I say you and SED were a scumteam?

You insinuated it when you said that Hellraiser looked townier than us due to the IceGuy lynch.

Natalie · Post Post #777 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:04 am

We have to agree on a lynch. I'm nervous to put my vote down because if Dayne isn't scum, then the two scum can hop right on and hammer.

But this is going nowhere and we have to do something.

Natalie · Post Post #782 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:55 am

Ok, hopefully Venmar/Delta isn't the scumteam.

Natalie · Post Post #785 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:16 am

By PoE, I think Dayne is scum.

Natalie · Post Post #787 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:27 am

VOTE: Dayne

Hellraiser

Natalie · Post Post #789 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:29 am

*high five*

Natalie · Post Post #791 (isolation #32) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:30 am

You're probably right

Natalie · Post Post #794 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:33 am

Phew I was just praying Hellraiser wasn't online.

Natalie · Post Post #805 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:48 am

^^This

Everyone thought Delta was town.

Natalie · Post Post #817 (isolation #35) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:45 pm

Well the metropolitan area scum crew! I'm from Jersey.