Open 432: Robo's PYP (Game Over)

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Vote: absta101

Hi guys, I'm here to save you all from a no lynch. Someone hammer already.

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What's up Brandi? Did you want an extension to give you time to push your mislynch through, as opposed to this wagon that's currently on your partner?

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I've not read anything yet.

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With all the other wagons at 1 or 2 votes, and 40 pages to catch up on?
Come on. Let's be realistic.

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Your whole suspicion on me is based on something Brandi has also just recently done, yet you don't find her scummy for it like you did me.

Posts like this are why I think absta is scum.
Saying "stop paying attention to me- pay attention to this other guy!" is classic scum deflection.

When did this change?

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Why does Starbuck being scum mean Alabasta isn't?
Explain it to me like I'm a five year old who can't read.

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Is there only 2 scum in the setup?

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Context pls.

What was the "certain tell" that you believed too strongly?

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But...you said "posts like this are."
So it's been on more than one occasion.
Explain to me why you think newb-town are more likely to "deflect" than newb-scum.

Who was Absta talking to in that post?

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We've had claims? Why do we have living VTs? They should have been hammered as soon as they claimed.

I'm gonna ISO the mod. Whoever backed off after a VT claim is getting slammed by my furious fist of justice.

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PS if someone wants to help a brotha out in case of VCs that don't accurately reflect the situation, it would be much appreciated.

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What?
Neither of the VT claims were at L-1 according to modCounts.

You've both got some explaining to do.
Also where did that Natalie wagon come from? Was pretty lol reading the VCs.

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Vox support my waggon on Starbuck.

Brandi, read this post then tell me what you think re: newb-town.

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HOLD ON A FUCKING MINUTE

UNVOTE

WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT TELLING ME WHY PLAYERS CLAIMED UNPROMPTED AND WHY THEY ARE STILL ALIVE
MAKES ME THINK THERE IS SOME SCUMBAGS OUT THERE LYING LOW

STEP RIGHT UP

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PS we're not claiming Absta until someone has answered the above post

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"I'm not cop" would have sufficed.
I can vote Starbuck today if needed.

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I think you should take a moment and read the game, Vox. You could learn a thing or two, and answer the questions that you have.

Says the guy saying he thinks Brandi is an investigative role.

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Vote: Starbuck

This is the wagon.

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I don't need to read 40 pages. My record at catching scum in RVS is far better than my record at catching them anywhere else. Go figure.

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Starbuck went into hypodefensive mode because he's scum btw.

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Why should I trust a spy?

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K I'm gonna read a bit of this game now. Brb, nailing scum in RVS.

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Okay first things first wtf is this flavour Robo you twisted magician

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K page one reads (excluding flipped)
- scigaar is town
- absta is (grudgingly) town
- shamrock is scum

Unvote; Vote: shamrock

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PS willing to revote Starbuck, but not alabasta.

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I'm tired of lazy people jumping on whatever wagon they think will get a lynch and be allowed to do so without a case and thus without being called out.

WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT!?

=_="

K I'll stop and let someone else post now.

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No, never played with him.
But he RVS'd on p1 when there was stuff to comment on.

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In the off chance that you were actually being serious about being conf town because you were first. After reviewing the setup, being first would most likely suggest the opposite alignment.
I was suspicious of you because you

were

the first.

Anyway, you seem very genuine so far.

unvote

Likewise.
VOTE: Shamrock

You certainly seemed like you were trying hard to make something out of nothing, only to quickly back off it when Slandaar came at you unexpectedly hard. I initially ignored his first post because of how ridiculous and RVSish it was. Guess it's good not everyone does. His post

may

indicate something later on in retrospect, but not right now. Not at all.

Not to mention how you initially voted Slandaar because he didn't make a vote. Now you unvote him for reasons totally unrelated...

Vote: Absta

vote Slandaar

You're trying to break down his motivations without sharing any of your own, and that feels manipulative.

His motivations for what?

So Sawyer is town, and makes a good point here vs The Ab Star.
RVSdar may have been corrupted by it being page 40. Initial-replacing-inDar may have been a better judge.
Will read on and see. BTW I'm not quoting all 40 pages just relevant stuff vs wagonees. Don't worry.

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I've already decided to be on Shamrock or Starbuck's wagon.
I'm flipflopping on you.

I'm just catching up until then.

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Would you rather I did nothing until D3?

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Hello everyone, I'm taking over for drmyshottyizsik.

Oh Slandaar, just because you say you are confirmed town doesn't mean you are confirmed town. I can say that I am confirmed town right now and it would have the same effect.

Oh god. SO SCUM.

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Oops deadline soon

Vote: Starbuck

I'll whore to absta if necessary.

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1. Who is your top scumspects?

2. Who will you be willing to lynch before deadline if your scumspect does not have the votes ?

3. Who will you absolutely NOT lynch?

This is busywork

Aren't 1+2 enough to establish 3?

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"Willing to lynch" is in binary opposition to "not willing to lynch" so to pose the same question twice is needless busywork.

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What 50 pages?
Grumble reading grumble

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I'm not a fan of how Vox didn't answer the questions given.

Wat

I'm not a fan of how Vox didn't answer the questions given.

Starbuck...are you actually scum, babe?

Because this kind of shit-slinging is bad and you know it.

ReckTown <3

2. Either i'm experienced scum or scum is failing at pushing my lynch. You can't ignore the fact that i've never played mafia. If you were town, you would at least entertain the possibility that i'm not capable of doing that.

Yuck

I'm not announcing who I will jail in the event of a miss-lynch, if that's what you're asking.

That's cool. I really think you should stop announcing your plans on what you will do, even though I already know that you won't be jailing DV based on above reasoning (because I'm not scum).

Stop giving the scum an idea of who you're going to target. You're not helping our town by even giving them the slightest idea.

LOL
He's 100% right to tell us who he'd jail on your scumflip.
We know there are 3 scum. If you flip scum, we're down to ONE scum, so if he is killed, we know his jail target is CONFTOWN

WOW YOU'RE SO SCUM

SHIT HAMMER POSTING BEFORE LOCK BRB

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Changed my mind on jailing DV in the event Starbuck flips scum...hmm

P-Edit: God damn it I hope you're bluffing.

YOU'D BETTER HAVE TOLD US WHO IT IS
IF YOU HAVEN'T TOLD US SINCE THE HAMMER
THEN STICK TO DV
SO THAT IF YOU DIE
WE KNOW
WE KNOOOOOW

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Trolol you did it two posts later (@JK btw - fucken scum ninjaing me)
I'M POSTING COS I DUNNO IF ROBO IS ONLINE BUT IT COULD BE AGAINST THE CLOCK HERE
SO THOUGHTS MUST BE BLED OUT

STFU AND LET ME POST NINJA

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Vox needs to be looked into, what the fuck has he really added to the game?

Lol more than Code_X.
Did you conveniently forget I've been playing for like three days?

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What's wrong with vote hopping?
PS I ensured you were lynched over absta.

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Naw, I think you're scum over Abs.
Shamrock is the biggest scumbag but no love for that lynch

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Keep scumclaiming starbuck. Let's all pretend you didn't just ask people to keep talking to you then say the two of us are scum for doing just that.

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At what point were you being sarcastic?

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Why would you not want people to keep talking to you if you're about to flip town and have your reads certified as not-scum-motivated? xD

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Sarcastic is when you actually mean the opposite of what you're saying.
So to say you were being sarcastic by telling people to keep talking to you is to say that people shouldn't talk to you.
You're scum.

If you're town then I'm still looking at Shamrock because there's no reason not to.
And I could still lynch Absta based on him being my "third" of three scum reads with two scum alive - i.e. you being town would give me two scumreads.

PuffyPanderp is also a candidate.

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Vox support my waggon on Starbuck.

Brandi, read this post then tell me what you think re: newb-town.

BK, Sawyer and Reck are all town btw.

Anyone not in my suspect or town pool I'd need to read more to figure.

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Oh that was me telling brandi to answer before modLock.

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VOTE: ABSTA

FUCKING SCUMBAG

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HERE IS THE CC BITCHES
LYNCH NOW WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE

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I didn't shoot darklight, Code_X did.
I shot Shamrock because I thought he was scum and had no support for the lynch, AS I SAID.

PLEASE NOTE: Absta said deal with "tomorrow", not "tonight" - thank you.

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ALSO FUCKING RESPOND SCUMBAG ABSTA
YOU WOULDA GOT NINJAD
DON'T PRETEND OTHERWISE

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VOTE: Vox
Next time you replace in a game as scum. Think before you post. Terrible play.

TROLOL
LYNCH ME BRAH
YOU'LL GO DOWN IN FLAMES

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HURR DURR AS SCUM I NEEDLESSLY OUT MYSELF TO LYNCH YOU? YEAH RIGHT BRO.

"Oh we can deal with him tomorrow" = via lynch
I waited to post so you'd take the bait and die.

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How about WHY THE FUCK WOULD I CC AS SCUM

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yeah but why would absta someone who's never been scum before fakeclaim vig when he knows he's gonna be CC'd?

Because he's taking the easy way to get rid of his wagon.

The "never been scum" excuse is shit.

LOL ABSTA I WAS VOTING YOU YESTERDAY

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I'm tired of lazy people jumping on whatever wagon they think will get a lynch and be allowed to do so without a case and thus without being called out.

WHAT THE FUCKING SHIT!?

=_="

K I'll stop and let someone else post now.

In the off chance that you were actually being serious about being conf town because you were first. After reviewing the setup, being first would most likely suggest the opposite alignment.
I was suspicious of you because you

were

the first.

Anyway, you seem very genuine so far.

unvote

Likewise.
VOTE: Shamrock

You certainly seemed like you were trying hard to make something out of nothing, only to quickly back off it when Slandaar came at you unexpectedly hard. I initially ignored his first post because of how ridiculous and RVSish it was. Guess it's good not everyone does. His post

may

indicate something later on in retrospect, but not right now. Not at all.

Not to mention how you initially voted Slandaar because he didn't make a vote. Now you unvote him for reasons totally unrelated...

Vote: Absta

vote Slandaar

You're trying to break down his motivations without sharing any of your own, and that feels manipulative.

His motivations for what?

So Sawyer is town, and makes a good point here vs The Ab Star.
RVSdar may have been corrupted by it being page 40. Initial-replacing-inDar may have been a better judge.
Will read on and see. BTW I'm not quoting all 40 pages just relevant stuff vs wagonees. Don't worry.

Oops deadline soon

Vote: Starbuck

I'll whore to absta if necessary.

I'm not a fan of how Vox didn't answer the questions given.

Wat

I'm not a fan of how Vox didn't answer the questions given.

Starbuck...are you actually scum, babe?

Because this kind of shit-slinging is bad and you know it.

ReckTown <3

2. Either i'm experienced scum or scum is failing at pushing my lynch. You can't ignore the fact that i've never played mafia. If you were town, you would at least entertain the possibility that i'm not capable of doing that.

Yuck

I'm not announcing who I will jail in the event of a miss-lynch, if that's what you're asking.

That's cool. I really think you should stop announcing your plans on what you will do, even though I already know that you won't be jailing DV based on above reasoning (because I'm not scum).

Stop giving the scum an idea of who you're going to target. You're not helping our town by even giving them the slightest idea.

LOL
He's 100% right to tell us who he'd jail on your scumflip.
We know there are 3 scum. If you flip scum, we're down to ONE scum, so if he is killed, we know his jail target is CONFTOWN

WOW YOU'RE SO SCUM

SHIT HAMMER POSTING BEFORE LOCK BRB

Sarcastic is when you actually mean the opposite of what you're saying.
So to say you were being sarcastic by telling people to keep talking to you is to say that people shouldn't talk to you.
You're scum.

If you're town then I'm still looking at Shamrock because there's no reason not to.
And I could still lynch Absta based on him being my "third" of three scum reads with two scum alive - i.e. you being town would give me two scumreads.

PuffyPanderp is also a candidate.

Here are all the posts where I express suspicion of you.
Panderp is your partner.

That's game.

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So fucking vote me Brandi.
Just get on with it already.

If I can replace in and out scum with my CC and die in the process then let's go.

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Ugh. Brandi or Panda is partner.
Look at all this fencesitting from Brandz. Same as yesterday.

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So fucking vote me Brandi.
Just get on with it already.

If I can replace in and out scum with my CC and die in the process then let's go.

This really feels like you are scum trying to rush into night again to prevent any relevant discussion :S

I might just vote you, but NOT until the rest of the town has had a chance to talk, sorry.

Do you honestly expect the rest of the town to just follow suit and vote me?
Stop fear mongering scumbag.

Reck is so obvtown its not even funny

Why is Panda not abstaBuddy? Panda was the only alternative to you imo. Tho tbf I've not read DV at all so.

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Trololol I've never even fakeclaimed as scum to my recollection so meta hunt won't help you save your buddy.

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._."

Panda confScum with Absta
That should be clear enough Brandi

She doesn't unvote, she votes someone else - she wants to mislynch Sawyer today then push a mislynch on me tomorrow when it's LYLO
Nthx

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First post opens the way to vote Sawyer over abstaBuddy. Watch: both case 1 and 2 has Sawyer scum, whereas only one of them has absta scum. Logically, you vote Sawyer first.
Second point, they may have planned the vig CC to draw me out and/or try to get absta off the hook today.

Brandi, why is absta not dumb enough as scum to put the JK in, when he's townish because he's not been scum before according to you? These don't compute.

I heartily recommend we lynch absta today so that we have a spare lynch, enabling us to go through both Brandi AND panda

@panderp
Well if you're saying he's faked as VT then I'd lynch absta before me on a matter of principal, so that if he's derpTroll'd as VT at least in that case we'd not lynch me THEN him as liar VT.


Sawyer put heat on Absta during RVS for legit reasons. What changed? When?

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It was the only time I had ever seen a VT fake claim a PR

wait what

This should decide it for you. Lynch absta: he's VT, I'm vig. He's scum, I'm vig.

Whereas, lynch me, I'm vig, lynch absta, he's VT --- game over.

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Lynch Absta then find connections.

Atm you're hampered by doubts re: me.
When I flip town tonight you'll see Reck is obvTown and basically confirmed as much anyway.

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Oh pedit fuck you

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LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH

Didn't absta "think" one of Sawyer/DV were scum yesterday? :s

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Absta confirm you are not VT trolling.

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Reck, lynch me first if need be. You will get NK'd and then we can party in the dead QT as scum quaff champagne to their impending victory.

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PS if Absta confirms he is not VT I am willing to self vote to secure a lynch once everyone has chipped in.

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WELL FUCKEN DUH PANDA
Continue the busywork
You are scum

Brandi don't fuck this up
Panda is the buddy

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WHERE HAVE YOU GONE ABSTA

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Uh? Why won't the mod let me self hammer as scum?
I'll go read the rules

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BRANDI THE MORE YOU UNVOTE THE SCUMMIER YOU ARE

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lol
I'm obv town
come off it, srsly

ORLY?
You were scummy as hell yesterday near Absta's lynch
And it's happening again

Why are you obvtown beyond your own declaration of such?

Compare to absta who's brown-nosing you to make you vote me~

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I've not read much of D1 so I'm only basing it on what I've seen since around p40 or so.

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PS I'll ISO Natalie.

Also look more Absta butt-lickin

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Natalie said the whole "Why would scum choose JK" when uh you said that too Brandi?

Pretty hardcore bussing if you're scum.

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Repeat after me

Vote: Absta

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Panderp needs to stop playing Mists of Pandaria and

vote

bus Absta.

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BRANDI
I want to believe you are town who will fuck it up
But you keep giving me reasons to think you are scum

Look at it from my pov
I know absta is scum
Yesterday you dithered and wouldn't lynch her
Today you are flipflopping
You look like a prime buddy candidate.

Self meta is no excuse for that play.
If we're meta'ing you've already checked mine.

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RECK - more a post game discussion but let's have it now while the rest of them fanny about.

Should I have kept quiet, scumhunted today normally, looked for other connections to Absta, then cc'd with about a week to go?

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Brandi Christ
You need to sleep first

PS I hate lylo too read Chain of Command mini LYLO so I sympathise.
I guess it's different when I know absta is scum.

DV and Sawyer will see the light tho so chill.

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So fucking vote me then you coward.

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PS
Please note that I was flipflopping on Absta yesterday, AND he had a shit ton of support as a lynch candidate. He was a TERRIBLE vig target.

With claimed VTs left alive, esp ones as scummy as Starbuck, I believe we still did the right thing yesterday.

And you try telling me that as a replacement, facing deadline, I could have gained support for a Shamrock lynch, when I knew I had bullets to deal with him anyway - you tell me that straight faced.

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Vox:

- WIFOM, "why would scum CC?"

I'm amazed at the fact that Vox has been able to convince you with just WIFOM.

This is bullshit btw.

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PS
Please note that I was flipflopping on Absta yesterday, AND he had a shit ton of support as a lynch candidate. He was a TERRIBLE vig target.

Hey Vox, your scumminess is showing. He had a ton of support as a lynch candidate which made him a terrible

scum target

. Someone with a shit ton of support for a lynch and doesn't get lynched is the perfect target for a Vig. Especially a Vig that's suspicious of him. Letting him live because he's likely to get lynched the next day is the mindset of scum.

Uh no?
If he's a viable lynch the next day, I don't need to waste bullets on him.
I spend my bullets on players who I think are scum and who no one else wants to help me vote.

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As for the rest, it's noise and you can vote me or stfu.

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You're missing the fucking point.
The very fact that I didn't bother to parade a case around to convince people to get on him shows that I really AM the vig.

I didn't need to make a big fancy case because I knew I could shoot the fuck outta him during the night phase.

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Sawyer's lack of vote very much implicates him as a scumbuddy of absta. He knows once I've flipped he'll have to lynch his buddy.
Goddamn so many scummy players.

PS has anyone actually said why I'm scummy beyond just calling me scummy? >_>

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Not that I mind I just think it's fairly hypocritical to say the lack of push makes me not-vig which makes me scum considering I "outed" myself voluntarily AND I fail to see any case beyond my own lack of cases (which is definitely something I do as town if Brandi wants to share her meta findings any time soon)

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Panda, hammer now. Anything else Absta has to say is pure WIFOM if you think he's scum.

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Yawn
I'm sick of all the fannying around

You obviously just want to survive because you're scum

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Also before lock can I just say
Vig + JK makes sense as a combo
Since JK adds to the chances that a vigs kills will be nullified.

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LOL
Okay you keep telling yourself that

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What is this wifom bullshit
You can admit it now absta

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Mod pls post flip soon so I can get NKd and join absta in the QT so we can kick it back over a cold beer

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What did you only have 2 scum members? ._."

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PS tell us what the last PR is pls

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Shut up Reck
Stay strong
He's being a post-flip-dick

I'm ready to dance when Robo comes
Don't bail on me now brah you're my only hope for the town

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Absta are you VT?