Open 442: Jungle Anarchy mod abandoned

[Venrob]

Hi everyone! Im really late and glad got here before... YOU FUCKING LYNCHED SOMEONE FOR PUTTING A
RANDOM VOTE
IN THE
RANDOM VOTE STAGE

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!

[/rage]

...
okay. codex is doing the most logical thing; defending himself from idiots. Right now any insults i make apply to ANYONE VOTING CODEX. Now, X put a random vote at a time where everyone should do the same. In any game on any site, assume anything on the first 2 pages to be jokes/sarcasm. A lynch should never be based on an RVS vote!

You reason that it was the reaction. The reaction is the absolute most logical move. The vote was RVS. The reason for any RVS vote is just 2 words and 3 letters: "It's just RVS!"
That is UNIVERSAL RVS REASONING.
If codex is lynched i am 99% sure at this moment he will flip VT, 1% he will flip vig. VT's only have talk. No night action. They reaction test, scumhunt, etc. ANYTHING IN RVS IS PART JOKE/SARCASM AND PART REACTION TEST. He answered the question very close to truthful; only a grammatical error. He said its random. Properly he would have said its RVS vote. Same difference. I see no basis on his vote; HE DOESNT NEED A BASIS IN RVS.
Your basis is basically 'Ohh, he voted randomly! LYNCH HIM!'
He voted randomly because it was RVS.
Dont accuse me as his scumbuddy just cause i defended him; Im defending him from likely scum.


Moving on:
kondi.
RQS is enough basis for a D1 lynch in most cases; LYNCH THE PERSON THAT STARTED IT.

I will answer though.
EST
Scum, or pro town. Honestly anything but VT is fine by me.
People id like as scum?
PM.
(oh noes i answered with one not 2, imma werewolf!)[/sarcasm]
(note: I only added the close sarcasm tag because its obv needed in this group of idiots.)

Your case on seil is he put one name, which worked in ONE PAST GAME.
When u ask RQS, it is not game specific. Last game i played was 9 player, 2 scum. In that case, 2 scum. With the question u asked...[continued in next post]

[Venrob]

Well i just typed something long and my computer crashed, so i will shorten it:

kondi's reasoning is idiotic. RQS starters are 89% chance scum.
VOTE: kondi

people voting codex, and kondi:
1.need to check if they are mentally sane
2.need to check if a sense of humor exists inside them
3.need to learn common mafiascum sense


@mod, insults are for emphasis.


@vig and ww's
kill people voting codex


la de frickin da. I spent 10 minutes typing and it crashed. I think i summed it up!*mumble*voted kondi... insulted people... thats it i think....*/mumble*


Okay!
@code_x and seil
YW for defense. I think your attackers are idiots.


@everyone
i rage a lot. I tend to see things like they are obvious when others dont. Its in plain sight for me, and i hate having to point it out. I think i have all the scum (kondi, people voting codex)

@mod VC please?

[Venrob]

@krazy
Quick? It took me 7 pages!!
I read everything twice before posting, so i made sure i meant what i posted. I defended by null-leaning-town reads (codex, seil) from my idiot fucking town/scum reads

i say u shud get ur votes off codex, put them somewhere with basis. The codex bw is just overall scummy. If it goes through and codex flips scum, sorry. The basis is complete bullshit.

[Venrob]

>inb4 bw turns to me

@blast
Hi! nice to see i wasnt last


also btw its 1:02 am and i have a headache.

[Venrob]

Yeah, im leaning heavily toward most of u being stupid. Like i said, no matter what codex will flip, im defending because the basis of the bandwagon is complete bullshit.



p-edit:
@mod i meant just that post

[Venrob]

if u look at RQS with perspectives, it can help maf sometimes. Not going into that. RQS is generally something i consider a 'policy' lynch (term from epicmafia, lynching someone for stupid reason- mainly not having an avatar) And the RQS reveals barely anything helpful. in the case of this RQS, it was mafia fishing for werewolves (using idiotic logic)


as would be done on EM:

RQS POLICY LYNCH, GOGOGOGOGO ! NO BRAKES!!!!

^
making a joke! dont lynch me for joke!



ALSO
i hate RQS, i still answered! there werent questions that bad, except last one. When i answered it i used it to make a point. Now ur going after seil for hating and answering RQS? Again, use some logic. RQS isnt this rqs iin specific but rqs in general. More stupid reason. If we lynch, lynch kondi or someone voting codex. Kondi is my biggest idiotread. im calling these idiot reads when its a lynch/bw with terrible or no basis. Kondi is maf. GG! okay not gg. but still. if ur gonna lynch seil, give better reasoning.



p-edit
SO MANY POSTS WHILE I AM TYPING.

[Venrob]

Venrob, don't accuse people of being idiotic when I've provided evidence for this being a plausible slip (which you may have "accidentally" missed).

I don't have the time nor the mental state to play Mafia efficientally right now, so I'll read when I do.

What slip? saying one name? OHMIGOSH U USED ACCIDENTALLY IN QUOTES! IT MEANS NO MATTER WHAT U R MAF!

thats the equivalant of your case.

[Venrob]

kondi, mafia with can mean not this setup!! most setups have 2 maf (well small ones). It makes sense to answer one!

[Venrob]

I haven't read this thread at all, but this is a very important RQS.

1. Timezone?
2. Favourite faction to be in this game?
3. Who would you like to be mafia with?

I'll answer your RQS.


1. Central
2. Scum
3.I'm kondi2424's scum partner so how do I answer this? OH. I mean, anybody but Kondi!

Um, hi scum.
Hammer time guys.
We get this
train moving and
get moving along.

UNVOTE: Giitah
VOTE: seilkops

it was a joke, PM.

I still think 3 just gave you and your Wolf partner away. Nice try.

If you're willing to kill both of us for my one joke post, you're either Wolf or Scum. So


VOTE: PM

I agree, seil.

VOTE: seilkops

Look at any past Jungle Republic game to see the reasoning for my RQS. seilkops is a Werewolf.

eh, that worked once! busses dont count.

Correct. The one time someone used it singular, they were a Werewolf. Venmar, to be exact. PM was his scumbuddy, and I was Mafia.

That worked once, and also

I haven't read this thread at all, but this is a very important RQS.

1. Timezone?
2. Favourite faction to be in this game?
3. Who would you like to be mafia with?

I'll answer your RQS.


1. Central
2. Scum

3.I'm kondi2424's scum partner so how do I answer this? OH. I mean, anybody but Kondi!

He turned it into a joke. Also he said anyone but kondi. that is 13 people, not 1 lol.

[Venrob]

the last line? that was a joke. Learn a sense of humor please.

[Venrob]

I meant the rest that was addressed at me as well.

The rest? You mean that it worked ONCE!! Possibly a complete coincidence? Yeah im serious bout that!!

[Venrob]

I like Venrob, and he's stirred up things with his style of play, and I always like that. Solid Town.

Thank for the compliment!
I always get games active, usually get nightkilled early though.

GG: Leaning scum, he hasn't been posting too much, and what little he has is fluff like. Could have IRL stuff going on, and I just missed it, so I'm not willing to name him as obvscum.

He hops on Venrob quick enough.

Bolded is true. Meh, at least gnarl had some semi-decent reasoning.


@Vig:
When seil flips town, shoot PM or kondi. Then we lynch the other.
(unless he doesnt flip town)


Now, he is sacraficing himself for a noble cause!

Unvote
Vote: seil

I protected him, but this way we get 2 maf/wolves (kondi/PM)for the price of two town (seil, whoever wolves kill)

And: LOL if seil flips wolf. (fail WIFOM) but prob not. Lets get dis sacrafice!

@seil
assuming u r VT, not vig?

[Venrob]

Now kondi eithersees if hes scum hes dead, or has come to his senses. I think we shud just lynch pm, vig shoot random.\

UNVOTE
VOTE: PM

[Venrob]

^
seil flipping town = DEAD KONDI

[Venrob]

EBWOP:
YAY I GOTS ME A TOP OF PAGE

[Venrob]

okay then, FULL STEAM AHEAD!

UNVOTE
VOTE: SEIL

[Venrob]

I haven't read this thread at all, but this is a very important RQS.

1. Timezone?
2. Favourite faction to be in this game?
3. Who would you like to be mafia with?

I'll answer your RQS.


1. Central
2. Scum
3.I'm kondi2424's scum partner so how do I answer this? OH. I mean, anybody but Kondi!

Um, hi scum.
Hammer time guys.
We get this
train moving and
get moving along.

UNVOTE: Giitah
VOTE: seilkops

it was a joke, PM.

I still think 3 just gave you and your Wolf partner away. Nice try.

If you're willing to kill both of us for my one joke post, you're either Wolf or Scum. So


VOTE: PM

I agree, seil.

VOTE: seilkops

Look at any past Jungle Republic game to see the reasoning for my RQS. seilkops is a Werewolf.

eh, that worked once! busses dont count.

Correct. The one time someone used it singular, they were a Werewolf. Venmar, to be exact. PM was his scumbuddy, and I was Mafia.

That worked once, and also

I haven't read this thread at all, but this is a very important RQS.

1. Timezone?
2. Favourite faction to be in this game?
3. Who would you like to be mafia with?

I'll answer your RQS.


1. Central
2. Scum

3.I'm kondi2424's scum partner so how do I answer this? OH. I mean, anybody but Kondi!

He turned it into a joke. Also he said anyone but kondi. that is 13 people, not 1 lol.

Venrob, don't accuse people of being idiotic when I've provided evidence for this being a plausible slip (which you may have "accidentally" missed).

I don't have the time nor the mental state to play Mafia efficientally right now, so I'll read when I do.

What slip? saying one name? OHMIGOSH U USED ACCIDENTALLY IN QUOTES! IT MEANS NO MATTER WHAT U R MAF!

thats the equivalant of your case.

Hi everyone! Im really late and glad got here before... YOU FUCKING LYNCHED SOMEONE FOR PUTTING A
RANDOM VOTE
IN THE
RANDOM VOTE STAGE

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!!

[/rage]

...
okay. codex is doing the most logical thing; defending himself from idiots. Right now any insults i make apply to ANYONE VOTING CODEX. Now, X put a random vote at a time where everyone should do the same. In any game on any site, assume anything on the first 2 pages to be jokes/sarcasm. A lynch should never be based on an RVS vote!

You reason that it was the reaction. The reaction is the absolute most logical move. The vote was RVS. The reason for any RVS vote is just 2 words and 3 letters: "It's just RVS!"
That is UNIVERSAL RVS REASONING.
If codex is lynched i am 99% sure at this moment he will flip VT, 1% he will flip vig. VT's only have talk. No night action. They reaction test, scumhunt, etc. ANYTHING IN RVS IS PART JOKE/SARCASM AND PART REACTION TEST. He answered the question very close to truthful; only a grammatical error. He said its random. Properly he would have said its RVS vote. Same difference. I see no basis on his vote; HE DOESNT NEED A BASIS IN RVS.
Your basis is basically 'Ohh, he voted randomly! LYNCH HIM!'
He voted randomly because it was RVS.
Dont accuse me as his scumbuddy just cause i defended him; Im defending him from likely scum.


Moving on:
kondi.
RQS is enough basis for a D1 lynch in most cases; LYNCH THE PERSON THAT STARTED IT.

I will answer though.
EST
Scum, or pro town. Honestly anything but VT is fine by me.
People id like as scum?
PM.
(oh noes i answered with one not 2, imma werewolf!)[/sarcasm]
(note: I only added the close sarcasm tag because its obv needed in this group of idiots.)

Your case on seil is he put one name, which worked in ONE PAST GAME.
When u ask RQS, it is not game specific. Last game i played was 9 player, 2 scum. In that case, 2 scum. With the question u asked...[continued in next post]

Well i just typed something long and my computer crashed, so i will shorten it:

kondi's reasoning is idiotic. RQS starters are 89% chance scum.
VOTE: kondi

people voting codex, and kondi:
1.need to check if they are mentally sane
2.need to check if a sense of humor exists inside them
3.need to learn common mafiascum sense


@mod, insults are for emphasis.


@vig and ww's
kill people voting codex


la de frickin da. I spent 10 minutes typing and it crashed. I think i summed it up!*mumble*voted kondi... insulted people... thats it i think....*/mumble*


Okay!
@code_x and seil
YW for defense. I think your attackers are idiots.


@everyone
i rage a lot. I tend to see things like they are obvious when others dont. Its in plain sight for me, and i hate having to point it out. I think i have all the scum (kondi, people voting codex)

@mod VC please?

>inb4 bw turns to me

@blast
Hi! nice to see i wasnt last


also btw its 1:02 am and i have a headache.

if u look at RQS with perspectives, it can help maf sometimes. Not going into that. RQS is generally something i consider a 'policy' lynch (term from epicmafia, lynching someone for stupid reason- mainly not having an avatar) And the RQS reveals barely anything helpful. in the case of this RQS, it was mafia fishing for werewolves (using idiotic logic)


as would be done on EM:

RQS POLICY LYNCH, GOGOGOGOGO ! NO BRAKES!!!!

^
making a joke! dont lynch me for joke!



ALSO
i hate RQS, i still answered! there werent questions that bad, except last one. When i answered it i used it to make a point. Now ur going after seil for hating and answering RQS? Again, use some logic. RQS isnt this rqs iin specific but rqs in general. More stupid reason. If we lynch, lynch kondi or someone voting codex. Kondi is my biggest idiotread. im calling these idiot reads when its a lynch/bw with terrible or no basis. Kondi is maf. GG! okay not gg. but still. if ur gonna lynch seil, give better reasoning.



p-edit
SO MANY POSTS WHILE I AM TYPING.

@krazy
Quick? It took me 7 pages!!
I read everything twice before posting, so i made sure i meant what i posted. I defended by null-leaning-town reads (codex, seil) from my idiot fucking town/scum reads

i say u shud get ur votes off codex, put them somewhere with basis. The codex bw is just overall scummy. If it goes through and codex flips scum, sorry. The basis is complete bullshit.

These are all the posts.

153:
That was me yelling at idiots that showed themselves as idiots in the first 152 posts. It was also my first post, and meant for me to yell and scream and get some reactions. Apparently, a post can only have so many characters typed. I kept typing in 155.
155:
Continuation of 153.
156:
The codex wagon had no wheels, it was being shoved off the edge of a cliff. That is the point of that post.
158:
I was not setting an excuse, it really was that late... er, early. And i did have a headache.
174:
The 'RQS POLICY LYNCH' thing was a joke. Just so u know. And i didnt attack kondi for starting RQS- I attacked him for his reasoning to lynch seil. It was (is) shit.
206:
Me insulting kondi's reasoning to lynch seil. To which he replied:

And it's sufficient.

Which is scummy as fuck.
232:
This was me, re-stating most of my points on why to lynch kondi/not lynch seil. With quotes to show exactly where i was talking about.

Now, to compare.

153, 155, 156 are all ridiculous. He's trying to look town so hard. He calls Kondi out not for his actual scumminess but because he started an RQS.

Trying to look town? You should try 'Being town'. Bring down a stupid wagon, Make a scummy one do a U turn! Fine, dont give me towncred. I dont care. Im town. That is how i act as town. Deal with it.

>inb4 bw turns to me

@blast
Hi! nice to see i wasnt last


also btw its 1:02 am and i have a headache.

Right here he's setting up a lame argument for if anyone votes him for his bad posts.

Not excuse, stating fact. That post was half fluff tbh.

174, 206, 232 aren't accomplishing anything except looking busy.

Umm what?
174: Fluff.
206:Reaction testing kondi, got scummy reaction. (quoted above)
232: Making sure people knew what posts i was reffering to, replying directly to them by using quotes. Busy? That took me a good 10 minutes to find all the quotes!!!


Also:

262 and 362 are ridiculous. He hops onto the idea of "sacrificing" seil even though he clearly thinks seil is town. This is total garbage from a player who from the games I've read is definitely smarter than that. Then he seemingly comes to his senses and goes after PM but clears Kondi based on what?

^
seil flipping town = DEAD KONDI

How does he figure this one? BTW if seil is scum then this is some great WIFOM on his part.

Sacrificing seil? It was his idea!!
How do i figure dead kondi? HIS IDIOT SCUMMY BW ON SEIL, SHOWN TO BE WRONG. HE WOULD BE EITHER SHOT BY VIG, OR NEXT DAY'S LYNCH. If it stuck to just his BW, then it would be an 'Honest mistake'. Seil started sacrificing, so that would make his townflip get kondi killed.
^
As for the honest mistake, it would be if kondi was maf looking for werewolf. But town? that bw is scummy as fuck.


That good enough of a defense for you?

Note: It took me half an hour to get these quotes and type all this. Grey, just get off my case plz. This is my normal town playstyle on MS. (on EM, its different because of the different site echanichs)

[Venrob]

unvote: kondi
vote: kondi

[Venrob]

I'm... Town?
Lol @ my little argument.
Seil is offering himself to sacrafice. IMO he is town, and wants kondi down.

[Venrob]

I have trouble getting any kind of real read on Venrob due to his writing style.

His initial posts, while kind of overboard had solid logic (arguing against what seemed like a pretty baseless wagon on Code X).

After that, I don't really understand his fluctuations (quick vote on PM?).

On the topic of Seil, I don't see it as 'going along' with him, I see it as not letting his emotional defense replace logic. Maybe he's really town, but maybe he's scum trying to use emotion to keep himself alive just a little longer.

That's just how i play. Deal, or lynch me for it. The latter being not highly suggested...

[Venrob]

Kondi wouldnt be defscum, but would be #1 suspect. PM acted a bit scummy when kondi first attacked seil- sheeping + stupidity.
TownSeil=LYNCH KONDI
TownKondi=NullPM
ScumKondi=ScumPM
ScumSeil=LOL WTH

I think people think seil is faking sacrafice for TownCred, i believe him cuz it gives us a lynch-
WAIT
not a lynch, vig shoots kondi. Then scumkondi = lynch PM.

And i tend to go against rhe grain. As scum (check open 428, final day) i am an opportunistic fucker. Wudda lost that one if not for absta (thought me and my scumbuddy were town, other town was scum, this @ lylo = scumwin) I kept flopping my vote around opportunisticly- absta might as well have been scum!

Point: as scum i go with the flow, as town i defend who i want and attack who i want. I occasionally sheep, but not much.

Self-meta FTW

now we should lynch seil.

Unvote
Vote: Seilkops

[Venrob]

Kondi/Rach - I know this is a popular scumread with the whole 'he got the Seil lynch started',

but if you read his ISO you'll notice that he pulled away from it and later called Seil town.

We continued the wagon in his name, but he wasn't pushing it. Rach hasn't posted much but stayed with another wagon (Venrob). Mild townish.

The bolded was mentioned:
post 270<him saying seil is told
post 362<me pointing out his backpedaling

VOTE: RachMarie

[Venrob]

nope, venrobtown is the way to go! >obv im biased cuz i know im town

[Venrob]

Kondi/Rach - I know this is a popular scumread with the whole 'he got the Seil lynch started',

but if you read his ISO you'll notice that he pulled away from it and later called Seil town.

We continued the wagon in his name, but he wasn't pushing it. Rach hasn't posted much but stayed with another wagon (Venrob). Mild townish.

The bolded was mentioned:
post 270<him saying seil is told
post 362<me pointing out his backpedaling

VOTE: RachMarie

why did you join the seilkops wagon?

VOTE: bork

post 256<is why

[Venrob]

Solid posted reads in post 604, and here i post my comments. Area tags provided cuz it makes it not look like a blur (it did before i added them), and i removed quote tags. The blue is my comments. I also add a response to Solid's read on me.

bork

Alot of posting... very (VERY) little voting. No votes after CodeX, in fact. This style raises a lot of questions for me and puts him high on my scumdar.

I agree

CodeX/UberNinja

CodeX had his whole early wagon and (crappy) defense against said wagon, and not much else. Uber got in the thread earlier than inte but hasn't done much. Almost all of his posts are 0 content. However, he didn't jump into the wagon. I'd call him somewhat null.

Bad wagon, appropriate defense.

Blastoide/Inte

Blastoide didn't post that much, other than to get on the Seil wagon and stay there. Inte did not pull his vote after he replaced in, so I'm a little leery. He didn't read the thread but he was willing to lynch someone? This could be lazy/careless, or it could be a scum coming in, seeing that the strong wagon wasn't on his partner(s), so WTF does he care, let the sucker die? Mild scum the 2nd.

Im null on inte.

PM

Kind of retarded posting like some people have mentioned. He got on the Seil wagon and stayed there (and apparently wanted to lynch him SOOOO BAD that he said he would hammer even though he was ALREADY voting for him). The most noteworthy thing I found in his posting was some minor buddying between him and Hyperion. But I'd say he's scummy at worst, bad at best.

I played with PM before- PM's behavehior help me (scum) get in an ml, leading into LYLO. Its just how PM plays. PM's sheeping of kondi, however, is not quite the townPM i've seen before. Possible explaination- its early in the game.

INH/Hyperion

Insert had what seems like a legit beef with bork over the CodeX thing, but quickly idled and got replaced after that. Hyperion got on the wagon and stayed. He's got a lot of posts to analyze but no pattern is jumping out to me (admittedly, this is just a quick look). Null for now.

Null.

me, venrob

Aggressively 'town' in the beginning

, to the point of looking like he was trying too hard.

Other than that, he's pretty committed to the whole Seil/Kondi angle.

I'd like to see what he has now that seil is flipped (and what he thinks about my not being convinced that Kondi is scum). Despite him being a popular alternate lynch to Seil, his approach doesn't come off as scummy to me. Its a little too careless? (And I don't see a scum committing themselves to a 'If X flips Y, lynch Z' stance like that so early in the game).

Between trying too hard (scummy)

and being careless (bad towny)

I'll call him null.

Town. Oh wait, thats me! I can explain- bolding parts i will talk about.
I tend to play aggressive as town, unless i am a PR.
My analysis states seiltown=kondiscum
I always try hard. It never seems too hard to me, but comes across that way sometimes.
Careless? I take cautions and risks- depending on what i believe is worth it. Sometimes im a bit careless, but i dont see that in this game.

Krazy

Newbie, pretty strong scumread at this point. He starts on the bad CodeX wagon, and then doesn't vote again until fairly far along to hop on Seil's wagon. This reads to me as a scum trying to slide by on easy lynches without touching anything controversial.

I see your angle on krazy- ATM im letting it slide as newbness. But any more scumminess and my read topples straight from newbtown to newbscum/idiotscum

solidstate

Seems okay. No time for further analysis right now, will analyze further tomorrow/thursday.

[Venrob]

linking a post does not constitute an explanation

you are scummy for that

He said to lynch him, so i did. NO time right now, talk tomorrow/thursday in defense. G2G

[Venrob]

Also, Venrob: Thank you for the detailed reactions to my stuff.

However, you leave out answers to precisely the things I was most interested in from you (and even said I was most interested in): You don't comment on my not being convinced on Kondi. You don't comment on my Kondi/Rach read (which names them town). In fact, you left out that entire read from your summary.

It seems like a big thing to leave out, since you are still pursuing Kondi (as Rach). Could you offer some thoughts on the things I said about that slot?

I was being rushed off the computer, so i left out the one read that i wouldnt have time for. Actually i was starting to backspace the parts that i would not comment on, so i might have left out more than just kondi/rach. If anyone other than kondi/rach was left out, it was because i agreed with solid's read.

kondi/rach

I know this is a popular scumread with the whole 'he got the Seil lynch started', but if you read his ISO you'll notice that he pulled away from it and later called Seil town. We continued the wagon in his name, but he wasn't pushing it. Rach hasn't posted much but stayed with another wagon (Venrob). Mild townish.

Kondi started a retarded bw. Then when seil was raedy to self-sacrafice, kondi backpedal'd. Then rach replaced in. Now rach will die due to unfortunately replacing into a scum slot. Also rach then votes and attempts to BW me for calling her slot scummy.

I'm sorry rach, you got a scumslot! And if you legit arent scum, then we can say you replaced in to a fuck-up's slot. Sorry.

@MOD, VC PLZ?

[Venrob]

GG and rach wont move their vote. I know they wont. Perfect! [/sarcasm]

So, Kondi seriously scummed it up. Why the townreads now? oh well. You are entitled to your reads. But kondi is srs a scumslot. Now that would be rach, so we have to get scum. my vote does not move.

[Venrob]

@ Mod: Please prod everyone. There are a lot of people alive and I expect more activity from a game like this

I agree with this. Do not worry about prodding me, my inactivity is me waiting for something to talk about

[Venrob]

Vt. Simple. Thats me, stupid VT. Fucking worst game ever.