Open 449: Switch Mafia (Game Over)

[Aunt Jemina]

Hello, dearies. Moddie hasn't announced it yet, but I'm replacing in.

Would someone be so kind as to summarize the game for me? I am an old lady, and reading so much strains my eyes.

[Aunt Jemina]

I was sent my pm and confirmed, so I really don't know why moddie hasn't announced it, yet.

[Aunt Jemina]

VOTE: andrew94

Daumis is such a sweet innocent kid, so please leave him be.
greygnarl is even sweeter, so he shouldn't be bothered, either.

But andrew's gone sour.

[Aunt Jemina]

Why, yes, Potato, deary, I can.
Post 33 is hypocritical, doing the exact thing he accuses you of doing. He's attacking easy targets and sheeping others heavily. What little original content he has is highly unimaginative, being things anyone could say. (Active lurking.)
All-in-all, he leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

[Aunt Jemina]

I feel he is newby, but not newbscum.

Listen to this young man, please. He knows what he's talking about.

[Aunt Jemina]

gnarly, deary, you're saying Daumis is town right now, but you're still voting him. Would you be so kind as to unvote him?

[Aunt Jemina]

fitz, deary, you said you were going to reread the game; how has that progressed?
Could you look at andrew's content and think of whether it's active lurking in nature?

[Aunt Jemina]

gnarly

, deary, you voted me because you thought I knew Daumis's wagon would go through and was defending someone who I knew would flip town.
Is that still your reason for voting me when (via fitz's vote) the wagon on Daumis should be disintigrating?

[Aunt Jemina]

Oh, my. Forgive an old lady's mistake.

EBWOP:

When (via

your

vote) the wagon on Daumis should be disintigrating.

P.edit:

Kitty:

Who do you think is scum, then? It's not daummy, nor is it gnarly, and you say not andy, so who to you is scum?

[Aunt Jemina]

Kitty, deary, of course I have reasons. Daummy is the youngest of you youngsters, so he's going to always seem a bit bitter to you at first. What you have to do is look at his intentions and whether they're sour or sweet. He's as sweet as a youngster could be, with an honest heart and noble intentions. He simply hasn't adjusted to how we all do things here.

Gnarly isn't as young, but the same principle applies to him. Though he is misguided in his direction, he has no intention to misguide others and is merely a little bit lost. He's an honest young man, not some trickster up to no good.

I know you want Potato dead, and I see now you want mal gone, but if not gnarly or daumy, who would your third be?

[Aunt Jemina]

Sivvy, deary, I saw you in this forum a while ago; Jal asked you a question I'd like to know as well.

[Aunt Jemina]

Moddie:

As a warning, I'm an old lady and my immune system is weak; right now, I am feeling ill, so I may not be posting until I recover.

Sivvy, deary, why do you think I am worth sheeping?

[Aunt Jemina]

Kitty, deary, that doesn't do me any good, so who other than gnarly, daummy, (to you) andy, and me would be your third?

[Aunt Jemina]

Please explain where you see different, Aunt Jemima.

Because I came to the opposite conclusion--I see no scum motivation in him. I said it before; his posts read as town. Specifically, newbtown.

Daummy is the youngest of you youngsters, so he's going to always seem a bit bitter to you at first. What you have to do is look at his intentions and whether they're sour or sweet. He's as sweet as a youngster could be, with an honest heart and noble intentions. He simply hasn't adjusted to how we all do things here.

In you youngster's terms, that he's newbtown, whose intentions were good, but his execution was poor because he's not adjusted to this site's meta.

So let me ask you this, who are your top three scum reads?

That would be you, andy, and sivvy, deary. Mal was among them originally, but his later posting and others' pushing of him moved him to null, and now leaning town. Potato's at null, because while they started town, their posts have progressively gotten worse over the day, opposite that of mal, who started bad but has progressively been getting better.

[Aunt Jemina]

VOTE: Sivvy.
Andy's still bitter, but I'm seeing many of you tell tales of him being like his normal sweet self, so to all of those saying andy's town on meta, I'd like links to check it out myself.
Sivvy's posts are getting worse.

[Aunt Jemina]

Gnarly, deary, I'm looking at andy's posts in that game and they look entirely different from his posts here. They look more constructive, original, and thoughtful there than here. What similarity do you see?

[Aunt Jemina]

I haven't even looked at what he said here. You just wanted meta.

And gnarly, deary, I'm pointing out that I'm not seeing how that game where he is town is similar to this game. So please explain to this old lady why that game, to you,

does

.

I cannot see where you guys are getting town on GG from. This screams annoyed town.

Tajun, deary, did you mean "scum on GG" or "annoyed scum"?

FESS UP! WHERE ARE THE REAL PANCAKES HIDDEN?

The scum took them away, deary. The reason I'm in this game is to take them back.

If it came down to it, gnarly is a better lynch than daummy, but neither is a good lynch. Both are sweet. I would much prefer a Sivvy lynch; does anyone see Sivvy as sweet? If so, please explain to this old lady how you came to that conclusion.

[Aunt Jemina]

Tajun, deary, you said you'd be willing to lynch Sivvy. This old lady here is giving you that offer; would you be so kind as to take it?
Jal, deary, you also support the Siv lynch, but could you put your money where your mouth is?

mal, deary, the last thing you said about Sivvy that I could see was this:

Siveure's ISO is kinda like this: "Don't ask me shit, I'm just sheeping LOL" and the rest of the posts are the sheeping part.

Could you please put these words into the form of a read for this old lady?

Kitty, deary, you have Siv as a null read; would you be willing to wagon him?

Hyperion, deary, I can't seem to find a read on Sivvy (or half the playerlist for that matter) from you; could you give one?

fitz, deary, your reread painted Sivvy in a negative light; does this mean you'd be willing to vote him?

gnarly, deary, do you have a lynch in mind other than me, yourself, or dammy?

Daummy, deary, you voted Sivvy initially--why did you do so and has that suspicion remained? Sivvy's virtually nonexistent in your posting.

Andy, deary, you said you'd prefer sivvy explanation (which I can write if necessary), but what's your own read on Sivvy, and why?


Potato, deary,

I agree with you on Jemima in that she really is uninspiring. I don't feel any drive in her posts and they sound like filler to me. I would consider lynching her.

I really don't get the wagon on Aunt Jemina though.

What changed? You went from considering a wagon on me to not understanding the wagon on me.
Also, kindly explain to this old lady why I can't find a mention of a read on Siv in your iso, please.

[Aunt Jemina]

We have no solid scumreads. Now we have no real clear leads to a lynch.

gnarly, deary, what game have you been playing?
It's certainly not this one.

We have at least three lynch candidates and most of us have solid reads.

Speaking of lynch candidates...

gnarly, deary, do you have a lynch in mind other than me, yourself, or dammy?

[Aunt Jemina]

This old lady inherited a gun from a kind young man named Krazy. Unfortunately, the one delivering it, our kind moddie, neglected to mention if it had been used yet.
(In you youngster's terms, congrats; you just outed your fucking vig.)

[Aunt Jemina]

Rather have Potalynched then AJ or Daum.

Kitty, deary, you neglected to mention how you felt on Sivvy in this post, despite a specific request from me to do so. And at the time of this post, you had your vote on me. Why were you voting me when you supported a different lynch?

Also, did you ever get around to meta-ing Andrew?

I asked for links from everyone calling andy town, but gnarly was the only one who gave one, and I didn't see the similarity. He remains a suspect, but because of how many are calling him town and the fact that I can't verify it means that he'd be a sub-optimal lynch.

Why the massive pulls to get people to vote Siv over your other scum reads though?

See above for andy. As for kitty, that's because Kitty's the weakest of my sourreads.

[Aunt Jemina]

And at the time of this post, you had your vote on me. Why were you voting me when you supported a different lynch?

You didn't answer this part, Kitty, deary.

[Aunt Jemina]

Motive for my play: I didn't immediately give all my sourreads because I wished to avoid giving the scum an idea of who I'd target if forced to claim. The same for my sweetreads; that'd tell them who I

wouldn't

be targeting. I'll say this lady's gun won't be aimed at gnarly or daummy, and if sivvy isn't lynched today, he's at the top of the list.

[Aunt Jemina]

Mal, deary, if I weren't the vig, the vig wouldn't counterclaim; the

vig would shoot me

. The possibilities are...

• I'm the vig: I vig, and I may or may not be confirmed. Either way, the scum can't afford to have me around forever.
  
• I'm scum of some kind. The vig vigs me, and I die.
  
• I'm scum of some kind. The vig vigs me, but it fails because the vigswitch ends up off OR am the SK with vig-immunity. The opposite scum type also wants me dead, thinking I'm either scum or the vig, neither of which should be allowed to live.

Regardless of which scenario, I'm dead within one or two night phases at most.

[Aunt Jemina]

Mal, deary, you're still ignoring how if I'm the vig, both scum factions want me dead, and while you

say

both scum factions may not wish to take each other out, optimal play is for them to do exactly that. They want to do so by lynch, but if it proves impossible, they have to do so by nightkill. Ergo, regardless of my alignment, 2/3 killing alignments want me dead.

[Aunt Jemina]

Mal, deary, it's only a waste of a nightkill if the lynch would actually go through, and it can only go through with the support of people such as you. My innocence is not given by my claim, but my flip. My flip is guaranteed within a night or two, so the waste isn't in nightkilling me; the waste is in lynching me.

[Aunt Jemina]

Gnarly, deary, you're forgetting how they'd WANT the vig to shoot me if I wasn't the vig.

[Aunt Jemina]

VOTE: Malp.

This is L-1

, dearies.

[Aunt Jemina]

Mal, deary, I agree. But it's better than a no-lynch and it'll give some good info.
Do you have any last thoughts?

[Aunt Jemina]

Aunt Jemina,

Town Vigilante

, was killed night 1.

Potatouhou,

Mafia Doctor Switch

, was killed Night 1.

Respect your elders.
/bah.

[Aunt Jemina]

Could have gotten Hyper? Probably. Not both.

General consensus in the dead QT was that Hyper was scum, yes, but fitz being the other never crossed my mind.

The scum killing all the PRs in a row and having the SK lynched d1 turned this game into mountainous by d3, and in that environment, the result was fairly inevitable. No town roles meant no way for a player not under scrutiny to be outed as scum, so a job well done by the scum there.