Open 485: Polygamist Mafia - GAME OVER

[fferyllt]

its not a bad lynch, klick & orc are obv townies thou the unvote was retarded when vl had shown intent.

If the game is not over, I'll do a reset on them.

[fferyllt]

Voodoo are you scum with Fudu?

How is this a serious question?

[fferyllt]

VL, what do you make of this post?

fferyllt, does this look anything like my scum play the ONE game you've played with me in the past?

Sorry for not posting in awhile... Been really busy. But we've already had three rapid bandwagons?

I'm inclined to think the people on the bandwagons more likely of being scum than those off.

Well at least I can be pretty sure your town Fferyllt... Seeing as you forgot that scum can't chat either right now

[fferyllt]

There will be a day 2.

I guess klick never really had anything on me, all talk.

plz post your thoughts while you can, then.

[fferyllt]

Sven is arrogant, and not a very good player. Good job having a murderboner for me for no reason, unless you were trying to protect other players. Don't stalk other players when they are involved in other games and don't ever ever accuse quality mafiascum member like klick of cheating.

Klick is seriously off his game.

Orc though is making sense, listen to him.

Pretty clear Tam is scum, not buying levi/marangal is town

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Orc is pushing a Nekoko lynch.

[fferyllt]

I think everyone knows that we are brushing this one off and blaming fferyllt.

[fferyllt]

VL, what do you make of this post?

fferyllt, does this look anything like my scum play the ONE game you've played with me in the past?

Sorry for not posting in awhile... Been really busy. But we've already had three rapid bandwagons?

I'm inclined to think the people on the bandwagons more likely of being scum than those off.

Well at least I can be pretty sure your town Fferyllt... Seeing as you forgot that scum can't chat either right now

I think TAM's play as scum in the last game I played with his is pretty similar to his play in this game.

But he played like this in the Poly game he linked earlier to some extent as well.

I have no idea how to read TAM.

I would love to see him elaborate on his third sentence, since it raises an interesting point... especially relevant given that we now have a hammer.

I didn't get that impression.

[fferyllt]

messiah, for sho wont.

Its my feeling right now that marangals are the prime suspects.

yeah. feeling this too.

[fferyllt]

TAMARANGALS?

you mean you think the team with me/tam/levi/KBWreplacement is the scum team? what gave you that idea?

and in regards to my fudu vote, I did have him as a town read, but considering I was hard-pressed to believe that anyone else was actually town, I had left him alone for a while. I take the full blame for the lynch, I really did think that you guys where scum with Orc and Klick. it made sense to me, and I wasn't the only one to believe it, I was seeing the exact same things FF was seeing.

You were seeing the exact same thing as one of your scum reads, and followed it.

[fferyllt]

Yes, I am sure you were sleep deprived, but you couldnt go to bed, heart raising, been lurking the kbw wagon for awhile hopeing that you wouldnt have to intervene. But alas, he was going down, what to do what to do... DEFENCE.

SHERLOCKED

I wasn't the only one who freaked out about the KBW fast wagon

That's right! One of you scum reads did.

[fferyllt]

Are you seriously harping on me having had a sudden hospital stay AGAIN? I never would've taken you for a huge asshole.

honestly, no i don't fucking care that you were in the hospital. i don't care that anyone is in the hospital. it was your play SINCE you got out.

it wasn't up to par that it shouldn't have been in this game because this game is FAST because of the set up! honestly i think you should have replaced out and given another person a better shot at your slot.

This is harsh.

[fferyllt]

Not even sure who you're talking to there.

Maybe go chill. Because yeah that was harsh and totally uncalled for.

[fferyllt]

Orc, why would you hammer us if you were townreading us as you said a couple pages ago?

Because day needed to end, we weren't getting anywhere and ff's reads were turning to mush

Klick had a scum read on you guys so I guess it was a sheep to a certain extent, and he said pregame that he could read Fudu easily.

Something needed to happen to get town back on track, and with klick scum reading your pair, I thought the lynch made sense.

In retrospect my reads did turn to mush, but I was going to freak out about you and klick at some point. Better it wasn't at LYLO. There were just too many wtfs in my mind about both of your posts given my mafia background. It's a data point for future games here, for sure.

For starters I won't hyperventilate next time when someone starts posting ALL CAPS DAMN YOU VOTE HOW I SAY NOW NOW NOW NOW at me.

[fferyllt]

I thought Ms Marangal has experience on another mafia site?

[fferyllt]

re offensive. You'd have to try pretty hard to top what's already in the thread.

[fferyllt]

Ummm, I've pretty much ignored most of the teams I think...

hmmm, maybe because I'm reluctant to believe you're not scum?

VOTE: TAM

[fferyllt]

TAM, I'm struggling to see the lack of interest in other teamst as pro-town. Your partner has given us literally nothing, and when KBW is subbed we get a completely unkown quantity.

How about some of those ISOs you keep thinking you might get around to.

[fferyllt]

TAM was not very forthcoming about the three bandwagons we ran up on day 1. Without more input him besides coasting on his early interactions with Orc he's going to be difficult to read. I'm not set on lynching hm at the moment, though I thought the post I quoted in my vote was pretty damned anti-town. I am set on doing what I can to get more interaction from him.

[fferyllt]

If Levi's scum, it would be with TAM.

Yupp, thats why I think a tam lynch is safer. Its probably tam + voodoo but in the off chance its marangals than tam is a better choice.
Yeah, this is where I'm at currently.

TAM faces a very uphill battle convincing me he's town. But, my mind is not closed.

[fferyllt]

hm. messed the quote tags up somehow.

[fferyllt]

Overthinking. It's what I do.

[fferyllt]

I've enjoyed the game more since you subbed in. Not having a partner around, and not knowing if he'd post again wasn't much fun.

[fferyllt]

and bring him down to L2 before he could even say anything? no thanks. besides, VL/Nekoko need more pressure at this point, since they are the only pair who have yet to say anything

That's some heavy-duty pressure you're putting on VL/Nekoko there.

[fferyllt]

Not only that, he HAS said stuff. More stuff than since the slapfest with orc.

[fferyllt]

I've been thinking about the logic of TAM's vote on orc, trying to figure out how it makes sense from a scum perspective. But then I realized. If he's scum, then the scum team only has control of 3 votes until KBW is replaced. He'd need to park the vote someplace where it wouldn't tip his hand about what town team he really thinks is lynchable. And he can't put a temporary vote on scum without giving up some lynch control to town. With one scum vote there, town wouldn't have to act unanimously to control the lynch.

[fferyllt]

Well, he doesn't need to park his vote, but it looks less scummy for him at this point to vote somebody than to not vote.

[fferyllt]

How about some data to go along with that vote?

[fferyllt]

I could go into a paranoid tailspin about you, nekko, Ms Marangal and Levi being scum. But I really can't see TAM making the posts he did today if he's town. Let alone prior days posts.

[fferyllt]

wow.

should have had the paranoid tailspin.

[fferyllt]

congrats

[fferyllt]

TAM I don't know what to say.

And Levi, jesus christ the shit you said to Messiah. Let's not cross paths again.

[fferyllt]

gg Ms Marangal. Your townishness covered really well for you "lover". Well done!

[fferyllt]

VL your game was really clean. You convinced me you were town again every time I started to doubt.

[fferyllt]

as many times as I misspelled your name I deserved that

[fferyllt]

Thanks for running the game TracyLyn It was a lot of fun and I found it a good intro part 2 to mafiascum style mafia.


Thanks for subbing in, Svenskt. It was fun being your partner.

[fferyllt]

Yeah, I'm too competitive for my own good. mafia gives me insomnia.

[fferyllt]

I wish I could bottle the eau de town I had in this game and save it for later.

[fferyllt]

orc, I hold you in high esteem

[fferyllt]

I thought you did great, Tracy. I'm sure it was hard to keep up with us at times! Thanks for the shout out. I wish town could have pulled off the win, but we really boxed ourselves in with the FuDuzn lynch. I didn't appreciate what that did to our margin of error until afterwards.

I've always avoided nightless games because I don't think my play style works that well without night kill data to crunch. It really was difficult with nothing but bandwagons to analyze. Ms Marangal in particular hid her motivations really well in those bandwagons.

[fferyllt]

and TBH, I was lurking this game the second game logged out waiting for someone to get TAM to L2

making note of this for future games!

[fferyllt]

Yeah this game was perfectly modded.

Okay so this game was particularly frustrating for me because I really thought that we screwed up with the day 2 lynch. I found TAM scummy, and all of us were right to suspect him. To be honest I doubt we would've won in the end because of how bad TAM/KBW were.

But still. I was really disappointed that none of you paid attention to my case on why Nekoko was the better lynch over TAM. Sven, I pasted the thing for you /twice/, and you paid it no attention. FF and Klick didn't comment on it at all. Yes, TAM was scummy, yes he was probably part of the scumteam. But he wasn't the safest lynch. I don't know, I just really don't feel like FF/Klick and I deserve this loss.

KBW also screwed us over a little bit, since town couldn't win until he got replaced.

But you know what, whatever. M and Levi played excellently (release scum QT?), and I trust that none of us will think you're too noobish to fake towntells in the future.

I was filtering you through Klick and that was a mistake. You really impressed me as the game developed. I wish I had listened to you more.

I hope we play many more games together.

[fferyllt]

I could be fooling myself, but I think I'll be able to read you a little better now that I have this game to refer back to. We'll see!

[fferyllt]

must be nice. I hate playing scum, and my game is so geared toward town that it's difficult to play well as scum once people know what my town game looks like.

I'm not willing to compromise my town game, though. My scum game has to get better because I'm not going to purposefully play less than my best when I'm town.