O-489: You Are Not Cats

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Varsoon also for not RVSing

Fun fact: I haven't lost in this setup yet.

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Johnny

Sup, why is not doing RVS bad?

Refusing to RVS (and doing nothing in its place) is basically saying "I'm gonna sit back and wait for someone else to get themselves in trouble without contributing."

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also, why ask just me?

[JohnnyFarrar]

"Why would scum do that?" is one of those questions that sort of answers itself.

Viomi's post looked like an obvious poke at me/GNR for voting the first guy, but I see your point. I may switch, depending on Varsoon.

[JohnnyFarrar]

RVS sucks. I don't participate in it, regardless of whatever psychological reasons. I've refused to since I came back to the site and started this account. You should find this in my previous games as well

Bleh.

You there, Klick, I think I've played a game with you when you were kondi. Not sure.

VOTE: FuDuzn because I've definitely played with you

Looks like RVS to me.

VOTE: Viomi

[JohnnyFarrar]

Just an fyi ;P

But I do like your punniness

you had me at "bi-sexual".

but seriously. seems like kind of a strange mistake to make. but that leads to the next question. would scum be so careless as to make such an obvious mispost?

How is this any different from YYR's "Why would scum do that?"

[JohnnyFarrar]

So this is a 2dumb4scum argument?

[JohnnyFarrar]

basically. personally, i don't think its a big deal. but i could just be suffering from confirmation bias.

So, do you think my vote should be elsewhere?

[JohnnyFarrar]

at this stage of the game i remain rather unconcerned with your vote.

Oh I can tell you don't care, you're on the wagon I'm trying to start and you're fighting it.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Check my flip in that game

I was about to be like "It's not

over

yet!" but you're totally dead. The fact that you've only done it there, as scum, makes my brain hurt. Maybe I'll remember to ask if that game ends and this one's still happening...

I disagree with this post. By refusing to do RVS, I have started the games first wagon and launched us into some early discussion.

Using yourself as bait like that is a dangerous gambit.

It also got me a pretty nice scumread (in my opinion) on YYR.

Is YYR that much scummier than HD?

You should claim.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I was looking for a towntell.

Have you played this setup before?

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: YYR

I would stake the game on Viomi being town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

"Stake the game" may have been an exaggeration, but there's a towntell that's been 100% accurate in this setup(to my knowledge): Refusing to claim.

Townie's are more likely to be ignorant of the fact that there is nothing to claim, because scum is more likely to have read the setup.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Me in 414

ShadedMelee in 444

[JohnnyFarrar]

You're thinking in black and white. It's only a towntell. If he said "There are only VTs" it would have been null.

But anyway, I haven't found discussion of claims in the other three times this game was played so that's pretty much it. Why am I irrelevant as an example?

[JohnnyFarrar]

No vote Varsoon? You're not convincing me to abandon the best wagon without presenting a better one

[JohnnyFarrar]

YYR is the best vote because he's the only person that's presented a scumread. (Aside from Viomi lying, but Viomi's town.)

I fail to see how I'm scummy.

Also, you two should get a room.

[JohnnyFarrar]

You're saying that the YYR wagon was bad, but until just now there wasn't any alternative. Where was my vote supposed to go?

p-edit: at least read the posts from those who voted him before deciding it's bad.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Conflict of interest. Using yourself as evidence only really works if you're confirmed town.

I was town in 414, that's why I linked it.

Bubba's not answering my questionnnnn.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So the better option would have been?

[JohnnyFarrar]

A: RVS was over, so that would be retarded.

B: BUT MY VOTE IS MY POWER.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Don confuses me, but I'm not seeing scum. What'd I miss?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I can see how Johnny is scummy

annoyed.

I'd prefer a bubba wagon to a Don wagon.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Boredom.

Town - Viomi

Null-town - Varsoon

null-scum - YYR, Bubba

[JohnnyFarrar]

Told you that YYR was a bad vote.

When you're right, you're right.

I'll have to see who's unaffected by a YYR death. Tired.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So I'm thinking Don is clear, since YYR said specifically said he thought Don was the scum on his wagon, and Varsoon is clear because that's entirely too obvious.
Juan, Ucklar, and Viscereaopfja never posted, so they're probably not it.
Those

not

named Don on his wagon are good suspects, so me, Pasch, HD, Viomi, bubba.
GNR and rmpeacoc are conveniently unaffected by the kill.

Best votes, to me, are bubba, HD, GNR, or rmpeacoc.

bubba abandoned the wagon prior to the shot, which makes me nervous.

HD sheeped onto it and then did nothing.

The other two are completely unaffected. These make me the most wary, because last time I played this setup the 2-shot targeted someone who didn't interact with him at all.

I think I'll VOTE: rmpeacoc for now.

p-edit: I'll let someone else examine the wagon since I was on it.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Aside from the lurkers, you and GNR are the only two players that hadn't really talked about YYR one way or the other, and he didn't talk about you. So the kill seems the smartest if it came from one of you two.

[JohnnyFarrar]

@rmp - I have no explanation for why scum would kill the biggest wagon. The only thing I can think of is that scum wanted to confuse us. Have us at each other's throats 'n such.

p-edit: He was your biggest scumread that you managed to avoid voting or talking about. Hence unaffected.

pp-edits: I'll just read Don's ridiculousness and reply in another post.

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Varswoon

I believe you should know better than that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

explainnnn

[JohnnyFarrar]

You should explain your votes when you make them.

[JohnnyFarrar]

You're aware that scum have a QT?

[JohnnyFarrar]

1. It's not the refusal to claim, it's that he was unaware of the fact that claiming is pointless.

2. What was wrong with Pasch's defense?

3. Thoughts on rmpeacoc?

[JohnnyFarrar]

What else would I be doing? Rolefishing?

I mean, if he knew the setup he would have called me an idiot for asking, but he reacted as though claims were possible.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm tempted to vote you based on how much we disagree, but I'll leave that for later.

[JohnnyFarrar]

No I get it, it's just there's a few holes in the theory. They could have given the order via QT without even logging in here, or they could have sent the PM/given the order hours before and it just took Whiskers that long to get online.

[JohnnyFarrar]

My vote is ripe for the sheeping

[JohnnyFarrar]

Rachel~

Hold on, HAS SAL BEEN A GIRL THIS WHOLE TIME?

Viomi, I prefer my actual suspect to your lurker vote.

Varsoon, why didn't you get all pissy about V-name's vote on GNR?

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's not usually how it works

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why do you keep encouraging people to sheep you? Let them form their own opinions and vote, please.

Seems like you always want to vote people you disagree with. Don't you know you're playing mafia?

I'm rmpeacoc and I don't like jokes.

Varsoon why pasch again?

This.

Kill the best bw, FOS people on the bw. Easy scum strategy.

Who do you think could employ this?

I have no idea how anyone is getting a scumread off of me...

This.

I AM A SHE. Thank you.

Yeah my bad.

Mac may have convinced me on Varsoon.

It's nice having Don and Pasch around to argue my theories for me. I have little to argue.

[JohnnyFarrar]

1. I'm skimming because work, don't hammer until at least 5 hours from now.

2. Why is don scum? Only stuff I've read makes him look like a policy lynch.

3. Salamence will always think I'm scum.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So Varsoon's problem seems to be that he's assuming Pasch-scum exists and is terrible at mafia. Thinking he killed the victim of a wagon he was on, thinking he's going to be paranoid now("noided" means paranoid, right?), and thinking he's defending me, his hypothetical partner, really hard after joining the wagon I started.

I'd be insulted if I were Pasch, and I whole-heartedly think he's better than that, just as a player. Not following that vote at all.

@Sal: What's wrong with 133? Be specific.
Also tell me what's dumb about my 54. It's fine if you disagree with it, but it's not dumb and I'm not the only person who's used it.

Johnny scum for #162, or he is just dumb.

I'm

rmpeacoc

Sal and I don't like jokes.

I dislike how absolute all of your statements are in that catchup post, but you're always like that.

This is me expressing intent to hammer Don, even if I like the Pasch wagon more.

When I read this at work I thought he was getting lynched. Turns out you're calling a wagon that still needs 4 votes.

If there is a scum on my wagon so far it is probably him. Unfortunately I think that Johnny honestly just dislikes anyone who disagrees with him or finds him scummy.

Show me a single flaw in my logic and I'll concede this, otherwise I'm just insulted.

we need more people on Varsoon.

scum shot YYR and no one has posed any other scenarios for scum to shoot scummy-looking YYR at all.

I posed a scenario. Pretty good one, too.

Pasch is scum
Vote:Paschendale

Explain.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'll give you that, but it's not incredibly strong. Why no rmpeacoc? or Varsoon?

Actually all your reads would be nice.

[JohnnyFarrar]

@bubsy - What's wrong with the rmpeacoc push?

@Pasch - it just kind of looks fake, like your surprise is an act. I can see it, but it's weak reasoning for a vote.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hoo boy. I try not to post huge stuff, but sometimes I have to.

Spoiler: Salamence

So I'm thinking Don is clear, since YYR said specifically said he thought Don was the scum on his wagon, and Varsoon is clear because that's entirely too obvious.

The first statement (Don is clear) is bad, as it leads to WIFOM and I can see scenarios where scum could do that. The second statement is fine, but then again

This was just me assuming Don isn't stupid. In this game townies kill back, and even though most would think it's too obvious that Don killed YYR, it does kind of point right at him. I know it's not absolute, but it's an educated assumption.

Juan, Ucklar, and Viscereaopfja never posted, so they're probably not it.
Those not named Don on his wagon are good suspects, so me, Pasch, HD, Viomi, bubba.
GNR and rmpeacoc are conveniently unaffected by the kill.

1. Lurkers can attack privately from the QT. Its a low probability, but still.
2. I don't like the exclusion of Don or Vi.
3. See 1

1. You're too smart to push for that. Only one of them ever showed up at all, and it was much later.
2. You never commented on my townread of Vi, so I'm considering it solid until you astound me with your logic. Don is clarified above.
3. I was actually saying they were the best suspects. My vote is still on rmpeacoc. I don't understand what you're getting at.

Also your Vi vote just looks spiteful.

Post 215 is town? Looks null to me.

Spoiler: Varsoon

Also, it's worth mentioning that I have not read the setup yet. So yeah.

Goodness gracious. Is this why you're so pissy about me asking for Viomi to claim?

You're gonna have to explain your "Reaction test" hammer intent to me real slow. I'm not too bright.

I especially don't like that he asked for a claim so early.

There is nothing to claim for anyone. What do you think I was doing?

Links 414 where he was town as if to argue that he's town in this game. I don't like this. It doesn't do any work for him.

I linked to 414 to argue that Viomi was town for exhibiting the same tell that I did in that game. Please try and keep up.

Parrots Don in 130.

You're gonna have to explain this to me.

Your case on Mac would be a lot more convincing if it wasn't mainly consisted of "He voted me", "He tunneled me", and "He attacked me". The bit about him setting up for Don next in 235 seems a bit exaggerated to me. He says you could be friends, not "If Varsoon flips scum, so will Don."

As of 104, I don't think there's any reason to keep that YYR vote. It clearly isn't a pro-town vote at this point and isn't producing pro-town content.

This is clearly opinion based. 5 players thought he was scum and YYR himself saw the validity of his wagon, so I think the problem may be you.

VISCERAL EYES (SCUM):

Not many posts, not much content to go off of.

Could be either town or scum.
Please continue to post.
You're scum until then.

The other two that didn't post much were town to you. Why's VE so different. Also isn't VE someone else now?

@ HD

-

Haven't gotten to it yet, have other commitments and real life to take care of

You've had your vote on someone you haven't read yet?

Both HD and Rmpeacoc only addressed the bits of Varsoon's post about them. I am irked. P - EDIT : AND VIOMI TOO DAMMIT pp-edit ok she saw the GNR thing.

@ Sal

-

Still not for the Varsoon wagon.
We need to attack confscum Vi.

Not a

single thing

to say about that ISO monstrocity?

@Rachel

I know you can read faster than that.

---

That was this aside of rhetoric that is commonly referred to as a 'joke'.

I'm with him on this, you people need to learn to take a joke.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Don't you ignore my post Varsoon. I wouldn't be able to handle that kind of rejection.

[JohnnyFarrar]

First of all should we HAVE to address anything but only our own stuff? I think Varsoon is scum... I don't agree with him.

Yes. You should be reading and commenting on everything, because if you don't, your reads can't evolve as the game progresses. Also you're not contributing when you only defend yourself.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why aren't there more votes on rmp?

[JohnnyFarrar]

HD is overwhelmingly null to me right now. His position on the YYR wagon makes that kill seem like a terrible idea coming from him, but he did vote Don for absolutely no reason.

That said, I just checked and he hasn't mentioned rmpeacoc once. I could see HDscum if I'm right about rmpeacoc

[JohnnyFarrar]

What's wrong with the first two? Also address my post.

[JohnnyFarrar]

naptime. You'll get one in a few hours.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wow. I've missed a bit. rmp be gettin sassy, yo'.

I'll go throw together a case real quick (even though I feel like these reactions today should be plenty...)

[JohnnyFarrar]

So my original case on rmpeacoc was that the YYR kill made the most sense coming from someone that didn't interact with him at all, and only rmp and GNR fit that criteria. Since then, I've just been noticing a bunch of inconsistencies and small scumtells that have just added up to one giant throbbing scumread. So here, for you all, is a chronological list of inconsistencies/scumtells in her posting that make her look scum.

Spoiler:

102 Gets all antsy when Pasch accuses her of lurking, then agrees that I'm scummy (unexplained) and questions Bubba on his un-bubba-like behavior. little townie, little scummy. Call it null.
108 lists Pasch and Viomi as town for iffy reasons. Viomi has "obvious towntells" that aren't fully explained, and Pasch is "Pointing out lurkers", which scum can do easily. Lists Me (unexplained), bubba(see 102), and YYR(unexplained) as scum.
137

Admits to me that my suspicions make sense.

(important for later). She brings up the lurker accusation that Pasch made a page earlier for no reason. Bringing up the Pasch thing again looks like she's just looking for something she can defend against.
139 Trying hard to erase that townread I have on Don. Scum hate townreads.
143

Again agrees that my theories about the YYR kill make sense

, "but clearly she can't agree with them." If they made sense, a townie should immediately look to GNR.
146 "I know I didn't talk about YYR, I was tunneling bubba."
184 > You all are making assumptions
> I'm guessing scum are on my wagon.
187 So much squirming. Dislikes trying to figure out scum strategy in order to make a vote,

even though she agreed it made sense twice

.
191 "Tell me the point of the YYR kill."

She acknowledged my theory twice.

Squirmy.
200 Trying to deflect onto GNR long after the theory was brought up. Looks unnatural.
226 Pasch is apparently the scum on her wagon. Also I'm thinking she defines "focus" as "not changing your vote", since she's said don is focusing on her like 75 times even though he really wasn't.
237 Doesn't like townreads.
285 "Does anyone notice that Varsoon is majorly on the defense and calling people who think he is scummy scummy?" Smell that irony. Also says calling out lurkers is scummy despite that exact reasoning for a Pasch townread on page four.
327 Someone go google

ad hominem

and then read this post.
338 Misreps and tunnelvision. Townies that are wagoned try to find scum, not defend themselves and accuse their attackers. This sort of attitude just continues until we arrive at the present.

Sal and Rach continue to do nothing.

HD is completely ignoring the rmp wagon. I smell scumbuddies. (also again someone who thinks they don't need to talk about everyone, not just themselves.)

Viomi is mistaking bad play for scummy play

[JohnnyFarrar]

Salamence is scummy?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Should probably talk more than that, bro.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'd like your opinon on rmp and Don.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Fos: bubba

[JohnnyFarrar]

This inactivity bores me.

Viomi, is there anything more to your case than "Sal isn't doing anything!"?

HD, I simply have no idea what you're trying to accomplish with that Don vote. You should probably explain.

Riggs should just post more. Prove to me you've read more than one page.

Rach, Bubba, Mac, Sal, Varsoon, you should vote or tell me why you're not. (Also just post more if that's something you're not doing.)

[JohnnyFarrar]

Moreover bubba, you're dismissing every scumread so far?

Also where does your own activity come into play?

[JohnnyFarrar]

How do you propose we pressure them?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Even after all this talk of pressure? You think that'll accomplish anything?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm gonna save that plan for tomorrow, since I'm not comfortable giving lurkers a potential vengekill opportunity.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Town? I get null, but town?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Town? I get null, but town?

Read my previous posts concerning him.

The only thing I can find is she's "doing helpful shit", which was never addressed.

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Sal

[JohnnyFarrar]

I, too, am confused.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I was trying to get you to explain your scumtell with that post.

[JohnnyFarrar]

*scumread rather.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So wait, do you think he's scummy?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Pronouns are dumb.

Explain your read on Sal. And tell me how rmp is town.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wassamatter with it?

[JohnnyFarrar]

My last post was in response to 473, I just didn't get prompted to p-edit...

[JohnnyFarrar]

That would imply that Sal is town, wouldn't it?

[JohnnyFarrar]

As long as we're demanding things, I'd also like a discussion on who he shoots should we be wrong. A Viomi death doesn't sound great.

[JohnnyFarrar]

It's not a discussion of contribution. I find Viomi town, and I'd prefer we didn't shoot one of my townreads.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Scum have had daytalk every time I've played this.

Also I've literally never seen any scum in any game ever be as obvious as you seem to think we're being.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Just because it's not town doesn't mean it's scummy. What's the motivation?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Vi's my only strong townread. If I could kill right now the recipient would be bubba or GNR.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why not Rach? And why the other two on the fence?

[JohnnyFarrar]

SUSPENSE. Good.

Be back later.

[JohnnyFarrar]

You two find each other to be town! How scummy! It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't also leading the town!

[JohnnyFarrar]

*sigh*

There is no night, Varsoon.

@mod - Riggs' last post was 4 days ago. Prod?

[JohnnyFarrar]

How are there this many posts in twilight? I have the feeling I'm gonna be annoyed when I read it all.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gross. Gross.

Bright side, Don: You don't have to deal with this nonsense any longer.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Townreads on everyone? GNR? Rach?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Vi said she had townreads on everyone, I was just wondering where the townread came from in his seven posts.

[JohnnyFarrar]

And I'm the best vote? Explain.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why the grouping?

[JohnnyFarrar]

And what reason is that?

[JohnnyFarrar]

@Varsoon, while that makes sense, I usually try to stay away from "One of these must be scum" logic because I find it clouds my judgement. Bring it up again when we get a flip.

@Pasch, I was gonna wait for Mac to comment on your criticism of Mac.

VOTE: Mac There you go.

I still owe the Sala wagon a once over, but I'm quite surprised I haven't been attacked for my vote yet.

[JohnnyFarrar]

tfw "I think you're protecting lurking scum!" with no flips.

Do you know what a good vote looks like?

[JohnnyFarrar]

This is, again, you trying to call me scum by association without the association being scum. Previously it was Don, but he flipped town so that's out. Now I'm partners with [lurker].

Come back to me with a better accusation and I'll take your vote seriously.

@Varsoon, nothing to say to Rachael's vote? No vote of your own?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Bubsy, you're willing to lynch a null-tell (not a scumtell) in hopes that I will flip scum and point you at lurkers, which you will then have to read based on their own posts (which are, by definition, sparse). And you'll be doing all of this while knowing that you'd be lynching one of the most vocal townies heading into lylo.

Good plan so far. 10/10.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not buying the varsoon wagon btw. Scum don't drop early hammers.

[JohnnyFarrar]

And you'll be doing all of this while knowing that you'd be lynching one of the most vocal townies heading into lylo.

It's currently 7-3 (assuming I understand the setup)

If we ml it becomes 6-3 if mafia was to shoot it'd become 5-3. How are we potentially in lylo?

That's my bad, I got my games mixed up.

Still a dumb idea, just not

as

dumb as I was thinking.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Aww Mac was on and then left without talking. I'm feeling sad and clingy.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Back. Had to take a break because scum killed one of my top suspects for the second time, which is annoying. I'm gonna analyze deaths now.

So, I've decided that rmp doesn't very well fit my theory for day one as much as I thought. Based on the way she's playing, I don't think she'd have made the first kill choice. Rach is also out for this one because she was juan1111 at the time, who never showed up.

Riggs still fits the first kill, but he's since dropped on the radar and I'd like to let his replacement make a presence before I pursue that.

That leaves myself, Viomi and Pasch on the wagon, and HD, Varsoon, and Mac off it.

I can't really see Mac, Viomi, or HD killing the top wagon as scum. Just doesn't seem like something they'd do. The kill was too well timed and placed, and quite frankly I don't think they'd have thought of it (no offense, I wouldn't have either).

That leaves my top suspects from the YYR kill as Pasch, Varsoon, and Riggs.

Moving on to Bubba, this one is much harder to figure out. I'm not going to bother pointing out that it may be an obvious attempt to frame me, since rmp already took care of that. Rmp's also off the hook because of how tunnel-y she got with bubba day 1.

Viomi barely mentioned him, save for a bit of soft defense early d1 and an implied scumread late d1
Mac's posts have been so light that he's genuinely a suspect regardless of kill(though the kill makes it worse since he's not interacted with bubs at all)
Pasch had been fence-sitting on bubba hardcore
Varsoon was all over the place on him
HD butted heads with him even with how little he's posted
Rach said not to underestimate him. That's it.

So the bubba kill reads are much weaker since I basically showed everyone how I read kills with YYR, but this one points toward Pasch, Rach, Viomi and Mac.

The only overlap is Pasch. VOTE: Pasch while I go ISO him to see if his play reflects my new suspicions.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Eh. I just read his ISO ready to quote something I didn't like. Couldn't find anything. I don't like my vote as much now.

p-edit: We're both right Rach

I know bubba is a newbie so yeah, but I have underestimated newbies before so will take a closer look at him.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why.

Why.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why.

[JohnnyFarrar]

wat

[JohnnyFarrar]

Gross. Gross.

Bright side,

Don

Varsoon

: You don't have to deal with this nonsense any longer.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Well I hope you were at least just VT and you didn't hammer yourself as a PR

so many facepalms

[JohnnyFarrar]

There are no PR's in this setup.

none.

at all.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'll be v/la until sunday, please don't force another townie into suicide until I get back.

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's nice
Another vote without a case

Do ya smell that irony? Do ya?

Varsoon's wagon angers me in quite a few ways, and I'm also pretty angry that basically no one has posted since my obviously unbolded and unnoticed v/la post. When I get back from work I'm just gonna start insulting people and finding scum.

[JohnnyFarrar]

We don't deserve to win. Not with logic like this.

I get off work in two hours, please don't kill the only other person using logic in this game.

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's nice
Another vote without a case

No, there isn't any irony there.

Care to explain where you're coming from?

You remember when I asked you why yesterDay?

three times?

and you said nothing?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Sorry for the absence. Every time I read up on this thread I see something that requires like 4 days of deep breathing.

I always like to be on the wagon of the day, just to gain information from the lynch if anything.

This is one of the worst things any player has said.

We don't deserve to win. Not with logic like this.

I get off work in two hours, please don't kill the only other person using logic in this game.

Assuming you are talking about Pasch, please explain more.

Pasch is legitimately the only player that I've seen make logical sense in this game. I have no problems with his votes and cases. The same cannot be said for literally anyone else in this game.

rmp - you listed Rach as possible scum. What for?

Pasch - You gonna back up your posts with any sort of vote?

[JohnnyFarrar]

You think that's the best choice when everyone is pointing their pitchforks at you?

[JohnnyFarrar]

I hated a stated one on the first and an implied one on the second

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think I'm content to just sit here until Dashie catches up.

@Dashie I've played before.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I remember waiting for Dashie to tell us why she voted Rach. Still waiting on that.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Could you link some examples of Rach acting like her scum self?

Also Mac may get my vote when I see a reaction.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Well this game still exists. How much stupidity can I look forward to on the previous page?

[JohnnyFarrar]

fuck it

VOTE: Mac

only replying to one point in a case just makes me sad.

Dashie do you have any opinions on the rest of the players? How'd you figure the team of Viomi/Mac/Me? And where'd your scumread on Rach go? Did you ever show me Rach-scumgames where she acts like she does in this one?
(Apologies if I question a lot, I'm not used to a logical player being in this game so I'm kind of excited)

[JohnnyFarrar]

No such thing as claiming, Rach.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Deadline for Day Three is in Twenty-Four Hours!

Deadlines don't matter too much in this setup, but this makes me sad nonetheless.

[JohnnyFarrar]

It takes 5 to lynch, that's only four.

[JohnnyFarrar]

This game.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Not gonna hammer. This troll performance doesn't deserve a lynch, it deserves a modkill.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Whiskers is killing the highest votegetter and the end of the day anyway. This doesn't deserve my attention.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mac was actually L-2. Dashie switched off.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand wait for a flip.

[JohnnyFarrar]

@mac What PoE led you to that list?

@rmp what happened to the mac hate?

[JohnnyFarrar]

That's my bad, I've mixed up your opinion on Mac with someone else's. The reason for this is twofold:

1. This game is damn slow

2. You've managed to say little-to-nothing about him, even though he's been a popular lynch candidate for a while. You should fix this.

[JohnnyFarrar]

So I'm torn. Either both of the votes on Mac are scum or Mac is scum. There's been plenty of time for a quickwagon at this point.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Got all excited for a Rach post. Said nothing.

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Mac

Look a lynch

[JohnnyFarrar]

That happened frighteningly fast.

You scum, Johnny?

of course not. Townies quiclynch all the time.

[JohnnyFarrar]

scum shouldn't be able to talk at all? Idk.

[JohnnyFarrar]

HD's shots were both phenominal and the town that played well in this game really played well. Pasch, Don, Dashie, and Varsoon all did decently well. (You should have seen me panic in the scum thread when Dashie joined) The sticking points for this town were the scummy players. Viomi, Mac, bubba, and rmpeacoc made it easy for us to skate by unnoticed.

I'm happy though. Still undefeated.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Fuck you Johnny for shooting me.

I didn't have anything to do with it at least you missed the sad moments of this game.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Did scum die D1 in 414? I'm too lazy to check.

You don't wanna play with YYR. He's a jerkface.

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