Open 497: Tit for Tat (Game over!)

[RachMarie]

On page 2 already ... wow

VOTE: TNE

OMGUS FTW

[RachMarie]

looks like we are getting out of RVS good, good...

@ the letters dude if you click on reply there is a lot more features than the quick reply including buttons like for voting and such, makes it easier than trying to deal with all the BBC code stuffs...

I believe the vote TNE did on me was an RVS vote... Mine on him with the OMGUS snarky remark most definitely was RVS and meant as a joke. Will look peeps over and get serious now.

@Meow seriously hit the cap locks key and undo the cap locks no need to shout so loud...


Kerberos
3 heads?? Can I please know who they are? Thanks

I already know who the heads are, but I won't say who it is before the end of the game unless Kerberos gives explicit permission. - Antagon

[RachMarie]

I just looks and yeppers I do lol

meow could you PLEASE stop typing in ALL CAPS. It is rather annoying to read.

What is it about Alice that makes you think she is an easy lynch? If you feel ThAdmiral is scumz why are you not voting him?

[RachMarie]

Sorry you have to go camo was looking forward to playing with you

[RachMarie]

I know why you are doing it Thadmiral but oh gods bad enough to have ONE person shouting dont need two of you and I am the deaf one here....

[RachMarie]

When did ALL CAPS become a language

Anyways will look in more depth on your case on Alice along with some others in ISO when I can brain better...


Still want an answer (preferably not in ALL CAPS) from Meow to my questions I asked him.

[RachMarie]

Welcome Joh I think this is the first time we have played in a game together though we have known each other for over a year now lol.

Meow needs to stop typing in all caps... There I said it

Alice at this point the only reason I have not gotten on your wagon is how fast it built up and the day being so early.. So far you have come across as the scummiest. And complaining about your wagon does not give me good vibes girl, hows about trying to find the scumz if you are not one? that would help.

Getting a good feel for the 3 headed chicks and ThAdmiral.... and yeah Joh so far is looking pretty good too.

more later

[RachMarie]

Computer died completely on v la

[RachMarie]

i have set up the V/la for a week I will have some access because NS is a sweetie and has set me up as a user on my dad's computer I gave him.

[RachMarie]

I have this urge to break the cap lock key on meows computer dude come on its not rocket science.

I have NS's computer for about an hour so will do some games catch ups.

[RachMarie]

TMT.... Do you mean Alice? or TNE cause TNE is male.

[RachMarie]

Wolf

AtE like that is viewed as scummy. When a wagon forms on you saying woe is me gets nowhere, analyzing the players on your wagon helps find scumz. I am also not sold yet that she is town. I suspect everyone at this point more suspicion on some players than others.

[RachMarie]

Thor is Thor basically iffen he makes it to LYLO lynch his butt....

Anyways more later meant just that I am still working on pegging everyone Wolf. I am always suspicious when a wagon forms quickly...

but my computer died and NS is graciously sharing his with me so yeah hence the VLA.... and why I said more later cause my bf wants his computer back now.

[RachMarie]

woah not liking the unvote there

Bert if you think Alice is still scumz why did you unvote she is far from L 1

If you think she is town now, why did you not put your vote on your next highest scumspect?


Looks very much like you were voting for the big wagon and as soon as you had a wagon on you bam slipping your vote off hoping to slip off into the woodwork

@ ThAdmiral what are your thoughts on Bert? I think we found the scum on Alice's wagon whether it is a bussing attempt or not I am not as sure on.

VOTE: Bert

[RachMarie]

feel that meow is most likely newbtown rather than newbscum but he needs to knock off the ALL CAPS it is very annoying and makes him lynch bait. Or vig bait in games with a vig. (Talking in general here not specifically this game).

feeling that the 3 headed hydra is prob town along with ThAdmiral.

FH and a few others need to post MORE

[RachMarie]

Wolf in the post just above that brought up Thor. I know he is not playing in this game.

His posting seems newbie plus his join date was just a couple months ago. That is why I said newbtown


more later I need to look at ISOs and yeah we need more posting from peeps who have not posted much makes it harder to get good reads

oh and we are working on the computer issue plus now NS and I are engaged ♥

[RachMarie]

Please lynch this

when a player resorts to fart jokes they be trollin way too much to be of any help to town uggh

happy with where my vote is

[RachMarie]

I am going to take a look at FHs ISO see if I can find any clues. Good job by the vig BTW I really did not suspect him? DO NOT reveal yourself yet though...

Meow surprised me though? strange nk by the scumz? ''

[RachMarie]

sigh not much in FH's ISO to go on... will do VCA next

[RachMarie]

Sorry guys n gals I thought I posted in all my games... Keep in mind I am sharing a computer ATM with my fiance NS.

Will get that done and posted ASAP

[RachMarie]

Mod scene incoming, so don't panic... because panicking is

my

job.

VC 1.10

(As of Post 269)

Sakura Hana - 1 (freezing-hell)
RachMarie - 1 (Radioactive Wolf)
Bert - 7 (Johhog, Alicewondering, thenewearth, Sakura Hana, RachMarie, ThAdmiral, Bert)
Radioactive Wolf - 1 (TMTOLBTWNTOF)
ThAdmiral - 2 (Kerberos, MeowMix)
Not Voting - ...
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is June 3rd, 5 P.M. PDT or in (expired on 2013-06-03 17:00:00)

Let me know if you see any mistakes.

RachMarie is V/LA until May 25th.
Antagon is V/LA until May 23rd.

At least one is likely to be off the wagon
Kerberos,

Meow

, Wolf, TMT,

FH

(and we know FH is scumz and that Meow was town.)

At least one ON the wagon
(Johhog, Alicewondering,

thenewearth

Ankamius, Sakura Hana, RachMarie, ThAdmiral,

Bert

) (and we know Bert is town)


So we need to look at the on wagon peeps for now and sort them out...

Kerberos is most likely town especially with the reaction after the self hammer. Had I any inkling he would self hammer, I would have removed my vote. This would have happened even if he had flipped scumz, cause I dont like self hammering, and usually scum do it to end discussion. I know I did it once as scum. It was an unusual situation, I had been caught red handed in doing the NK so yeah wanted to make SURE that my partner was not revealed. Two of the heads of Kerberos were in that game (Mara and Mollie).

tne now Ankamius is prob town the replacement was a genuine one due to his school situation. He has been replacing out of all of his games. Will know more as he posts more, but I was getting a towny feel for tne.

I know I am town. Yeah Kerberos, I did forget we had a vig in this setup

Does anyone know if we have 2 or 3 scumz in this game? Cause I am not sure on that. Still learning setup stuffs...

Joh replaced unseencamo, again another clearly life related replacement. Since he has replaced in he has been actively questioning people and not afraid to cast his vote on who he thinks is scummy, prob town.


Which leaves

Alice
ThAd
and Sakura...


Will be taking a good look at their ISOs

[RachMarie]

uggh now I feel stupid I just looked at the setup there are 3 scumz...

Still we can work with what I have posted and find number 2

[RachMarie]

At Kerb when ya all get a chance to commune, I know ya all really think ThAd is scumz, what do you think about Alice? Do you think the interaction tween them could be from scum budz or not?

[RachMarie]

read again Alice it was ThAd who put Bert at L-1... He even stated it when he voted the dude...

[RachMarie]

wait a minute here? What happened to your everyone sheep me on ThAd?

[RachMarie]

What? Being prodded? doing a VCA? Not reading the setup? asking you if you could see a scum team tween ThAd and Alice?

[RachMarie]

I might add since there are 3 it is quite possible there are two on the wagon or 2 off the wagon.... Getting the goon was good though since I read (when I finally read the setup) that the scum PRs cant kill and use their PRs at the same time. So that means they will have to choose one of them to not use their PR or do a no kill.

So that puts the ball more in our court since we still have all of our PRs (and NO claiming at this point from them pretty please).

[RachMarie]

I usually check out the player list if I am going to replace into a game and rarely do more than skim the set up. NS being a mod who wants people to READ page 1 mod stuffs, gets on my case about it lol.

[RachMarie]

oh that is confusing....

I may have to go read through the Wiki version of this then cause I am clearly still missing something.

[RachMarie]

okays that makes more sense now and yeah I just read through the Wiki

[RachMarie]

Cause I have you as a town read but that does not mean I am 100% sold, still have suspicion.

[RachMarie]

I would like to hear from Wolf too when he gets back from V/LA those reads are rather a tad ambiguous....

Not liking how Alice hints at Sakura scumz but is voting me? If you think Sakura is scum why are you not pursuing her?

[RachMarie]

Not nervous... suspicious of you

[RachMarie]

That was not about Sakura it was about you. Voting for one player while hinting another is your scumspect looks scummy. Sakura just happened to be the one you were hinting at.

This is how you vote for your primary scumspect

VOTE: Alice

[RachMarie]

how can it be a hammer? WTF ?

[RachMarie]

ohh crap it is uggh


damnit

[RachMarie]

Ok before mod closes up the the thread...

I can see a partnering tween Alice and Sakura because of the whole painting Sakura as scummy but voting for someone else thing more than I can see an Alice ThAd combination, but I would not totally rule it out. The whole Alice is scumz f0r most of the day then switching over to Bert at the last minute and putting him at L-1 could be a scum tactic.


So those are the two I would look at...

Also need to look at Wolf and push on him. Especially it if turns out I am wrong about my reads on the scumspects.

Off the computer now cause food is here and it is NSs turn for the computer

talk to ya all later.

[RachMarie]

uggh which one did you shoot?

[RachMarie]

6 players left 2 scumz left its MYLO folks

VOTE: No Lynch

[RachMarie]

Kerb wanted Thad... I think that is a good place to go. We should discuss so town has all the info they need but it is MYLO and unless you can be SURE dude or dudette is scumz, town will lose the game if we mislynch.

[RachMarie]

why?

[RachMarie]

becauase i screwed up. I did not check first to see where she was votecount wise... Should have supported Kerb on ThAd I guess, but Alice seemed so scummy...

A bit stressed out too. Dealing with stuffs in RL and trying to function without a hearing aid when I am 80% deaf sucks.... Plus not having my own computer. Good news is probably within a couple of weeks I will have a new computer plus able to get a mold made so I can borrow a hearing aid til I can get a new one. Wont be as good as one that is designed for me, but much better than no hearing aid at all.

oh and I am not the backup role cop BTW.

[RachMarie]

Ninja'd by TMT

[RachMarie]

hmm I kinda thought that was more him trying to convince us to mislynch her and she was a popular wagon for a bit. What about the fact that Kerb was so bent on you being scumz?

and yeah there is now a mafia JK

[RachMarie]

Agree on Bert uggh that self hammer...

[RachMarie]

TMT (IC Comment) It depends on the situation, For example a Cop Guilty absolutely, a JK with no night kill and only one scum left definitely, in other situations it often depends on the context of that game. Just because someone has a PR, does not always mean they are right about their read.

I still say MYLO we should vote NL .

Going to do a comparison ISO of the remaining players.

At this point, since our remaining PRs have outed what about doing a popcorn mass claim?

[RachMarie]

uggh Wolf I was trying not to mention that part cause I did not want to give scumz ideas just in case they had not seen the flaw in Sakura's reasoning

So we gamble?

What do you think of popcorn claiming Wolf?

[RachMarie]

Well the fact that Sakura missed it kinda indicates it was not as obvious as I thought...

[RachMarie]

I was hoping scum would not pick it up giving our vig that shot.

[RachMarie]

he forgot the partridge in a pear tree though

[RachMarie]

umm I answered it there Sakura.

What more do you want?

[RachMarie]

What you did not pick it up so why would it be doubtful they did?

[RachMarie]

guess again ank

ThAd is a possibility though. He was the big pusher of the Alice lynch then backed off on D 1.. hmmm

[RachMarie]

yeah but that was after he had tunneled so much on Alice then suddenly he switched over to Bert.

I voted for Bert cause I thought he might be scumz.

[RachMarie]

In fact when he self hammered I thought for sure he was scumz was really shocked by him flipping town after that self hammer which is why I was so irked by it. Town should not self hammer..

[RachMarie]

not sure about Sakura or Ank ?

Need to take a look at VCA.

[RachMarie]

no FFS

I wanted to hold back info from SCUM not town. What possible scum motivation would there be in hiding from scum budz a way to prevent the vig from shooting? And since I thought there was a chance you were scum and still do I did not want to reveal your mistake to you...

[RachMarie]

1. Wolf and TMT are unCCed PR claims so town
2. I know I am town,

3. By PoE that leave you and ank as well as ThAd as the scum pool. 2 of the 3 of you must be scumz.

In order
ThAd Primary
Sakura Secondary
Ank Tertiary

[RachMarie]

I can show I always support NL in MYLO so yeah that does not fly

I already explained about the derp hammer.

Way to misrep me there ThAd...

Well I am not sure if it is ank or Sakura but more sure of my primary scumspect..

VOTE: ThAd


umm same train of thought? so you admitting you are his scum budz there Sakura?

I hate that we have to lynch like this in MYLO ... I much prefer NL in MYLO, but yeah that is not gonna work here

[RachMarie]

No
I dont need town cred I am town.

I was hoping to use the popcorn mass claim to help narrow down the pool more because I wanted to be as sure as possible to hit scum and win the game.

[RachMarie]

based on how people claimed. but it is moot now, was a bit of a hope more than anything.

I am not used to a game where we do not NL in MYLO. Normally I would be very suspicious of anyone who suggested it, but the situation here sucks.

I am tired atm and going to go to bed but give me some time to really go through this thread and see if I can better nail it down. I want us to win and not scumz winning.

[RachMarie]

Wolf why Ank over ThAd?

[RachMarie]

yeah feeling pretty good about Sakura too so yeah by PoE that would make it Ank as ThAwd's budz.

[RachMarie]

oh godz I remember that I felt so dumb afterwards. Even when I mod I keep careful track of votes using notepad so I can recount them a few times to be SURE.

Not the only time I have miscounted votes either, a couple of times I have claimed early cause I thought I was already at L-1

[RachMarie]

TMT you and Wolf are town by virtue of being un CCed PR claims.

I know I am town

That leaves ThAd, Ank, and Sakura.

I feel pretty good about Sakura being prob town, especially since the way FH was pushing on her it did not seem like distancing but like he was trying to get her mislynched.

That leaves ThAd and Ank

Of those two I am more sure of my ThAd read.

Hence that is where my vote is.

[RachMarie]

I will be so glad when I have my new computer. And a new hearing aid too.

But basically have not seen anything that has changed where I am on this game.

[RachMarie]

I think it is ThAd and Ank

ThAd is the one I am more sure of.

[RachMarie]

I could go for that Wolf... sounds like it is probably an auto win.


Intent to Hammer Ank...

[RachMarie]

woah did you just self hammer?



I think I have explained that I am still sharing a computer with NS at this point.

[RachMarie]

lol

WOOT we did it

good job to both sides was a fun and challenging game.

[RachMarie]

awww yay back to the cute kitty pic and yes Happy Birthday ♥

[RachMarie]

happy birthday to Sakura too

[RachMarie]

Might have been the fact he was in other games with me that were ongoing and he came close to doing a modkillable thingy so replaced out instead. We may never know cause it looks like he went V/LA then site flaked