Open 504: Masons and Mafia (GAME OVER!)

[Lincolm]

Hi Slimer. Just relax first, by the way.

Vote : Klick

P-Edit : Now you have thread to spam.

[Lincolm]

My last game Masons and Mafias with Wisdom, Klick, and Slimer by the way. Welp, I was scum.

[Lincolm]

Vote : JMO

Obvious role fishing.

[Lincolm]

Jeez, I ever play this setup. How I don't know this setup really.

Page 2 already. I'm confirmed town. lol

[Lincolm]

@Lincolm, English motherfucker, do you speak it? And you're right, you have played it before, so maybe I'm in the wrong here. Two things, first, how is it role fishing when everything is WIFOM, and second, how the hell are you confirmed town?

Want to see a proof? Klick ever did it. Check this out.

Why you put an obvious joke seriously, really.

[Lincolm]

Also... is English your natural language?

No.

[Lincolm]

@Linc, First part is serious enough, you seem to have never heard of grammar, but no offence intended or anything :p Moving along though, I'm reading through that game atm, and I believe I somehow missed the part about how it's rolefishing, care to explain yourself? And a joke, awww, k, that makes sense.

Meh, I don't care about grammar. I'm suck at writing. So, I skip that part, always.

I think I can't explain it, because I think it will be a lot of wrong grammar and I don't think you will understand it. Sorry.

It was a joke I made in Open Queue. If you want to take a look. I just brought it here.

Why I wifom useless in this set up? I see it on towns side. Don't you?

Totally no.

These misspellings are running rampant

Will post shorter.

[Lincolm]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Good bye Klick

[Lincolm]

Vote : JMO

I love you, but not in this setup.

[Lincolm]

So, I just went for a while and... the mason died. Jeez...

Vote : Maestro

You just played my scum play in previous Masons and Mafias.

[Lincolm]

Um, what Lincolm? Can you explain that reasoning a little better?

I should putted my glasses on. I already said I was scum in this setup before, right? It almost same. But no, sorry, I read the time wrong.

Vote : JMO

[Lincolm]

Skim perhaps better word.

[Lincolm]

@Lincolm, you're voting Maestro because he's playing the same way you played as scum in a previous Masons and Mafia, correct? Or am I getting this wrong.

Yes, but my skim wrong.

we stop the clusterfuck, jmo explains why he's being dumb, than we lynch Lincolm for being terrible before he flakes from the game if he's Town?

I'm in the class right now.

But still, I like to check and post this site lol.

Jeez, why I need to reply a lot.

[Lincolm]

Me, vote Lincolm - now he's using a semi-V/LA and a language barrier as excuses for a bad vote & unvote

I didn't use my language barrier at all. I said I read the time wrong because I didn't put my glasses on and I skimed. The fuck I use my language barrier as excuses?

You ever played with me and you know I have language barrier. You didn't even have a problem before.

Jeez, like you're physics that know I'm in class or not.

=

TIP is bad, but I prefer JMO.

If I'm not wrong, Lucky also voted him? Doesn't like a bus for me.

P-Edit : Fine then, I should stop posting.

[Lincolm]

What is this shit? You lurk then you pop back up? No.

(This is to me)

LOOK AT THE LITTLE SHIT

(Someone vote me and those are his replies)
.....
Okay?

post 68 - sad about Klick dying because he didn't say anything first, I read this as coaching other scum

The only I agree in post 227.

post 69 - I feel this is Lucky's biggest Mason slip to someone who isn't one. I'd also say this is the best evidence Lucky and KX aren't aligned.

Yet, you were quoting it when Lucky was alive.

The only thing I can gather from Lucky and KX's back and forth, is that KX was in an excellent position to get a mason read on Lucky.

Scums don't need exchange to know masons. They can sit in the back, have mason read, and shoot.

ftr I so shouted SCUM when I read this post

Self justification didn't help anything.

Lincolm "hammered" his partner and then a mason flipped
Because what Lincolm did was shoot a mason then appear to be hammering Levi

I didn't explain why, right? Because it was complex, but I already calculated everything before.

And Kattaze didn't hammer.

Mafias want to scapegoating town also, like the person in L-1 is the one who shot it. Fortunately, I have one of the example.

So, it is null tell.

Town has nothing to do in this setup because scum will just shoot when they're at L-1

Oh, you sure? My previous game Levi didn't shoot in L-1. It means, WIFOM!

Because his play is the same as the town game I played with him

You can assume this is not normal TIP. Why not?

Scott > Phil > slimer >>> popp's null, jmo's VI, KX is whothefuckknows >>> Wisdom, TIP

EDIT: I wrote the above list then realized Lincolm is still alive, wtfwhy

how about you go lynch Scum instead of me or the Mason/VI

.....

he still hasn't really explained the Scumread on TIP that IMO was a big part of his play so far, nor has he attempted to justify his claiming Mason. let's all claim Mason, if does us just about as much good (read: no good at all) - and all claiming VT does nothing either

Is that to me? Because you're quoting your own post.

Never said have scumread on TIP, but he is bad. Never claim Mason / VT also.

I have seen VTs claiming Mason to draw shots, I've seen Masons claiming Mason for WIFOM

Want me to post both example? Because I still remember both.

Vote : Maestro

Oh yes, that unvote was terrible.

[Lincolm]

You can assume this is not normal TIP. Why not?

?
I said this

is

normal TIP
At least what I know of his town game

I tried to justify something. Seems wrong question.

Should use KX in the question.

Lincolm, read on jmo?

Meh, I have gut feeling that is rolefishing, but he had consistency about WIFOMing. He wanted to help KX, but I agree with him that KX looked like frustated, so nothing after that.

[Lincolm]

Lincolm, for once, I wasn't referring to you as the VI in this situation - read btr plz <3

also that post where I quoted myself was me responding to Wisdom wondering why I thought jmo was being a bit of a VI, it wasn't directed at you at all...I don't think it even mentioned you

Sorry for that.

and...what unvote?

Lincolm's unvote is terrible

Actually I wasn't unvoting, I just changed my vote (because I rarely unvoting), from you to JMO.

Lincolm, read on jmo?

also this

Lincolm, read on jmo?

Meh, I have gut feeling

that

he is rolefishing, but he had consistency about WIFOMing. He wanted to help KX, but I agree with him that KX looked like frustated, so nothing after that.

^This is my answer by the way.

[Lincolm]

I still.say Jmo's town and drawed that kill

Big NO

And stop this talk. If you think about this, then keep it hidden.

Wisdom, check my preferred lynches list because it should be self-explanatory because my original theory on what's going on still stands, and I think jmo (and probs TIP at this point) are VI's and I don't have the mental patience for this right now

How about lynching scum? That's better. He said he is inactive until Sunday. So your vote and your impatience aren't going anywhere.

Lincolm doesn't seem to be trying too hard to actually attack, but he's trying to take out jmo, which I don't really like. I don't see why everyone has a scum read on him and from a lurker's point of view, that Mason "claim" should have really looked like the kill draw. I'm calling scum here.

That's weird. When someone asked your read you just give it. And it is obvious I called it is role fishing in page 1, and you called it is scummy in page 20. Explain?

Any way, Klick isn't stupid to shoot JMO like that. So, your argument is invalid.

How about you dont mention ongoing games?
Sec Ill find you a link

I putted it somewhere. Dunno where. Page 2?

[Lincolm]

#504 persuade me. Need to think this a bit.

jmo I would also like you to answer Wisdom's questions - they seem pretty viable to me.

You can answer Wisdom's question also.

What exactly you think is scummy about jmo?

Like, if this isn't enough for someone to hammer, they must be scum as well

Add this also.

go fuck yourself.

[Lincolm]

Jeez, I know sometimes hammer needed in this setup...

Whatever lah ya... Gut tell me to do it.

Vote : JMO

[Lincolm]

Okay, this twilight make me think JMO is town. Should follow myself.

@JMO : Sorry for that hammer, JMO. I like to said what have you done didn't tell that you wanted to protecting Mason, but more like role fishing, so it is telling me that you're mafia. Well, I knew there was consistent you want to WIFOMing, but even mafia want to WIFOMing town also. You know mafia want to find Mason also.

And... I think you're influenced with TIP's meta... I didn't feel you were genuine in this game... And all your post which quoted by TIP, you know...

@Wisdom : I didn't say intent to hammer.

[Lincolm]

Because he just voted jmo without reasoning

Newbie's card, Wis?

[Lincolm]

I don't know
I asked him to give me reasoning and he disappeared
Why would newb town do that

Welp, agree with this. I quoted it also.

[Lincolm]

You sheeped me onto KX and then onto jmo and have done nothing else

Actually, looking back, I don't see your main reason Wis. Or it is because JMO said KX was frustrated?

Are we talking about the same game o.o

Wisdom was talking this game, with previous game as reference.

I don't get what are you talking about.

We can all agree to that xD

I agree that Klick always have different alignment with me in this setup, because Klick was town. I hope so in the next game with this setup, I will invite him.

Overly defensive. Deflecting.

He's just panicking cuz he's going next

Reason please?

Good example already in game. You just need to look back.

(Well, Pieceofpecanpie make me remember Thor. Dunno why. His play style perhaps.)

Town doesnt speculate about that

Town did. Want to see the example also? Here it is. (because I like this setup very much, so I remember (the micros) history) (I'm going to see the Older history of this setup)

But this kind of speculation is useless IMO. Townread - Scumread better. And, personally this can help scums. Dunno if I'm right or not, but I think it is.

And yes, I agree with Pecan, he isn't the first. And, I don't want to speculate something like this. If I speculate this to scum, it's gonna make me "what the fuck". Just like Moneybag.

And... you forget about Slimer?

He's just panicking cuz he's going next

You're certain I'm the next best lynch

regardless

of the flip, that much you've made clear.

So, both of you agree that JMO is going to flip as town?

[Lincolm]

Okay, but I checked back again I don't see your main reason vote jmo. Or maybe I missed it?

[Lincolm]

Wisdom, come here and talk like a man.

[Lincolm]

I was expecting a mason/scum flip tbh, either because jmo or someone else would attempt a shot before the lynch or because jmo himself would flip one of those.
Now this confused me, and yes, it does improve the chances of jmo being the one who got shot by Klick.

I mean your read in Pieceofpecanpie...

[Lincolm]

And tell me why we're not doing KX again. Now's the perfect time to.

Same case? No thanks.

Not sorry about jmo's lynch. He played horrible

I find this offensive and hypocrite. Dunno why.

I was expecting a mason/scum flip tbh, either because jmo or someone else would attempt a shot before the lynch or because jmo himself would flip one of those.
Now this confused me, and yes, it does improve the chances of jmo being the one who got shot by Klick.

So... your read in PoPP because you thought scums gonna shot mason? If that happen, why PoPP was the next lynch, not JMO?

And dafuq you begin to speculate that also? You said town didn't speculate about that.

So why are you people voting KX?

What made you changed your read in KX?

He knows I can get people lynched

Can we lynch this guy please? This guy is dangerous.

since that's too subjective

What do you mean by that's too subjective?

If you want to lynch me, "safe" time to do it would be friday afternoon, I'll be away all day at an event.

Holy shit this thread is a clusterfuck. Anyway, did everybody miss the part were I said I'd be away all of friday?

And he still not come back.

However if it isn't Lincolm, it's KX or pecan.

I like to say, my gut telling me that is Maestro. But yeah, whatever... Looking at the mod how he posted it, he needed at least 5 minutes to wrote it, not like Om.

Why you putted me in the last? Because of my history, it should be me that have the highest possibility for you. (Yah, can't prove I did not the one who shot until I'm lynched or game ended)

This isn't really substantial enough for me to throw out a vote for now, so I'm waiting on more information.

Unfortunately you forgot to make an information also. You prefer wait rather than make the discussion. Which make fluff post better.

Yeah, I'll admit it, I'm not fully engaged in the game, really. And to tell you the absolute trust, I'm considering replacing out. Which is something most of you would prefer.

Dunno why, but I had same feeling. But... the setup...

=

Vote : BoroPhil

This one better for me.

[Lincolm]

Why Boro?

Meh, his vote isn't genuine. He already read, but just give simple information. His reason more likely try to easy lynch rather than scum.

And Wis, I like to know your read about KX.

Knowing that yesterday (game day) you like to lynch KX, you said that Slimer tried to lynch PoPP because you know you will push him, but you don't think PoPP tried to lynch KX?

[Lincolm]

Is that your own read or you just sheeping Wisdom...

I never like future lynch. It is more likely scum trying to save the mislynch for the future. Why not now?

[Lincolm]

Yes, it is what PoPP said. Sheeping your word.

He didn't even state he have townread in you, but he trusted your word. Well, perhaps he is trusting you because you guided him (in #698).

And, Wis, I really want to know your vote in Slimer. That's vote really bugging me.

[Lincolm]

Look Wis. You stated that probably there is scum in KX, PoPP, and me.

Why you need to vote Slimer? If that's right then it helps you as town. You just need lynch 3 of us, and voila, 1 scum left. That's better rather than lynch the other.

[Lincolm]

Jeez, Slimer out from the thread after this post.

So yes, I exclude him because of that.

[Lincolm]

Sorry about that. I included my read with yours.

You outed Maestro and TIP from the possibility because they are busy (I'm too lazy to state all, that's short version), but not Slimer.

Masons and Mafia isn't easy game when you're town meh....

[Lincolm]

Yah sorry, I'm losing all of my motivation again.

But in the skim, this is quiet bother and ping me :

So yeah. Also slimer and lincolm haven't exactly done anything to convince me that much they're town.

Not our fault. Why you didn't try to ask something that can help your scumhunt?

In my PoV, BoroPhil->PoPP->KX->TIP->Slimer->Maestro->Nvious->Wisdom

Dunno why, I feel I'm right about this. Put me wherever you want. My vote stay.

[Lincolm]

Personally I'm serious have townread in Slimer, Wisdom, and Nvious over here.

So, any one want to quicklynch right now? Because I really want to do this because Masons already outed. You guys just make worse my misery in this thread.

Put me in the first quicklynch if you want. I will self-vote for quicker. Personally, I don't care because Masons already claiming and this is will be ended with scums vs VTs. This will be better if we quicklynch right now, because town have more votes. 5 to lynch, 7 towns.

BoroPhil still scum and I'm pretty sure of it.

His all read just listing the easiest one. Meaning he is too lazy too read, yah, same with me right now. In condition 2 scums vs 7 VTs, with nightless, it will be better if town just made mislynch first. He isn't doing nothing and playing safe more likely scum motivate rather than lazy town.

Fast end better. Though this is depends to online of our mod also, but this is the best tactic as town I can get.

(Maybe this is just self-justification, but personally as mafia I wouldn't never shoot mason in early page, L-1 better)

I'm dreaming I already posted 3 hours ago

[Lincolm]

K, they aren't mason.

Vote : TIP

=

PoPP, if you're mason, then you know why quicklynch is good idea right now. Thanks.

[Lincolm]

No wait, I don't. If the point you're trying to make is related to time, then scum have plenty of time to shoot, they have had plenty of time to shoot and a "quicklynch" now will still give them plenty of time to shoot.

Yes, it is related to time. I already posted it. And should I let scum shoot first? No.

If you're mason, you would not let this happen.

I've read TIP's sheeping as town all game, I don't understand his #883 in relation to this read, I don't know what he's up to now, but it confuses the hell out of me. That doesn't mean I'm swinging suddenly from town to scum, I've gambled on a mason claim once already (jmo) and lost. I'm not keen to gamble again.

Yes, it is related. If TIP is mason, then you're mason. I don't believe this now. If TIP is VT, impossible scenario. If TIP is scum, then you're scum. You didn't even deny this, until now. So, you have same role with TIP.

I think you're lynch is much better.

I said it also. Not now.

Tell me, why did you focus on voting Boro earlier in the day and more or less ignore all the topics of conversation at the time? Boro was about as far removed from the conversation as possible, so it looks to me like you were deliberately distancing yourself from the main discussion as well.

Which discussion I ignore? I disagree with your case in Wisdom and KX, even though I disagree also with BoroPhil in TIP. I don't need to mention all of them, "I disagree with this because...". I don't even need tell agreement every time also.

Main discussion? Which discussion? Slimer between you? Slimer is my townread. You know which one I will choose in that discussion.

So, we should ignore someone who never come here, and let all mislynch happen when you think town dominated the thread? No thanks.

[Lincolm]

Or if I do understand your point, then it's ridiculous. How long do you think it takes scum to PM a shot to the Mod exactly?

5 people fast enough to vote when scums are not online. Or you have scumreads everywhere when only 2 scums left? Or you think I was gambling 2 random persons will be ALWAYS 1 scums in there?

I know that's a weird question to ask the very person I'm suggesting we should lynch, but I'd like to hear what reasons you have for putting yourself above your lynch targets.

You agreed I should get lynched, but now ask why not? I tried to optimist with the rest of town (because I lost motivation before). Now, I'm optimist with my read.

I mean in your #693 you sort of quoted a bunch of people, made some light comments and then put a vote on Boro. Why favour Boro over what Wisdom's been saying about slimer and myself, or what I said about KX and wisdom? I mean for each and every case you don't have to start with "I disagree with this because..." before making your own case or voting someone different. But all you've said with the Boro vote is "This one better for me." and that's fluffy nothingness.

Because Wisdom excluded TIP and Maestro. I only know I didn't shoot it, even if Wisdom said TIP and Maestro didn't shoot it, I don't want to trust it until endgame. Even Klick, he shot before came. Why not to the other? If Wisdom thought about this, then let it be. I know Wisdom is stubborn, so I prefer not argue something like this, that not give a clue of alignment because I think everyone can shoot Lucky. (Yes, I'm also stubborn)

I already said, I disagree with your case in KX. So, totally no for KX. About Wisdom? I already have townread in him.

Yes, I thought Boro was better for me. Because :

Meh, his vote isn't genuine. He already read, but just give simple information. His reason more likely try to easy lynch rather than scum.

His all read just listing the easiest one. Meaning he is too lazy too read, yah, same with me right now. In condition 2 scums vs 7 VTs, with nightless, it will be better if town just made mislynch first. He isn't doing nothing and playing safe more likely scum motivate rather than lazy town.

What? Are you mixing me up with Boro?

Boro have better word to describe it. Personally, hard to read you. There are town points and scum points, so I decided null. Better for me. Same goes to KX.
Perhaps this also explain what in my mind :

In condition 2 scums vs 7 VTs, with nightless, it will be better if town just made mislynch first.

[Lincolm]

You guys sucks... This make my misery worse than before again... (Not because whole discussion with PoPP and 2Bs1s)

Firstly, you may have noticed I was blowing off some steam at a tunneling lame-body. Secondly, did you see anyone take the claim seriously enough to warrant me having to deny a thing?

First, didn't notice.
Second, I took the claim seriously, but not now. You didn't notice that?

If TIP is mason... then I can be Mason, VT or scum. By the way, how likely do you think it is he would claim we're mason partners and that turn out correct? How does his mason claim with me prove that we're both mason or both the same alignment?

Why Mason claimed mason with someone who VTs or scums as their partner? Didn't make sense. In the result he picked scums, then this is going to screw all town. Tell me why how it is make sense.

If TIP is VT, impossible... what? Why? Evidence please. I've read him as town most of the game, this could still be the case, or it's wrong, either way I don't want to gamble on it now. And what stops TIP and myself from both being VT? That seems just as possible, which is just fine by me, since I've mentioned I'm VT previously.

Why VT claimed mason with someone, who he doesn't know his role, as Mason? Didn't make sense also. Tell me why again. Why need evidence? Do we need absolute evidence in mafia games? In the endgame, perhaps. You realize this scenario make me think you're scum with TIP, so you putted "I need evidence".

If TIP is scum, then [Pecan] is scum... just like the mason thing, why are we both the same alignment now? Why can't TIP be scum, town or mason and I be scum, town or mason?

Too late.

If you denied it, maybe I considered this.

Use other stuff to help determine alignments, at the very least realise that the way you're linking TIP and myself is extremely flimsy and speculative. I think you're wasting your time with TIP's #883. It's either him honestly declaring that both him and myself are mason partners (and what do you want me to do, speak up and confirm he's absolutely right? ) or it proves nothing. Yes, of course I deny it to be true. It's a rubbish post and it confuses me.

So, #883 isn't serious? How so? because TIP is masons with you or TIP is a VT or TIP is scums with you? Maybe because TIP as scum outed their team already so you asked us to ignore it. No thanks. It proves something.

If scum weren't online when whatever it was you think made a quicklynch important, then they certainly have been online since.

If they can, of course. I ever seen one scum could not online in LyLo when he had opportunity to win in 10 hours. Funny things to remember.

I'm sorry, I absolutely do not understand what you're trying to say.

Sorry. You agreed that I needed to be lynched, so why asked for it?

Because I thought masons already outed (Hint : This is essentially I claimed as VT, I think everyone noticed this, so no need to hide, I already breadcrumb it in my avatar, funny breadcrumb ), so before scum shot masons, I prefer quicklynch, even it is me. I tried to be optimist with the quicklynch, because VTs vs Scums isn't good scenario.

I didn't notice it earlier, but I really don't love the ways that Lincolm decides to push TIP after PoPP's ambiguous response to the claim. Reeks of scum uncertain as to whether the kill's safe trying to push an information lynch.

TIP is bigger wagon. That's why. Which PoPP's response? I didn't use any PoPP's response by the way. Perhaps you need to quote it.

jmo's flipped VT [...] Kattaze brain-faded onto him

2Bs1s didn't say Kattaze shot JMO. You misrep it.

Lincolm was hammerer. That's not driving a wagon, that's using one to your advantage.

Yeah, I pushed the whole day in JMO, so I didn't driven it. If there is no hammer, the lynch would happen also. So yes, I was not driving it. Give me better logic next time.

I may (may) elaborate if enough people actually care.

Don't care. PoPP still scum for me. Keep that for yourself.

I choose to believe that pecan and TIP are town

No thanks.

Maestro was on the jm wagon with two of his scumbuddies?

I don't know this is should be a townslip or this is deliberate...

If Maestro flips Town, I'm gonna rage so fucking hard

If you flips town, you can go to the other side of

internet

mafiascum.

Also if you lost interest you should replace out

I have interest with this setup, but lost motivation. Should I?

This game is awesome as fuck

Because you're scum? That make sense.

Voting after I claimed Mason seemed unwarranted

Scum post thanks. I was doing that also.

You've done nothing.
You've dodged scumhunting multiple times, avoiding to read the thread.
And thus you've come to "not know where to go", which you wouldn't if you were town. You would have some scumreads.

I putted this on BoroPhil. You know that.

[Lincolm]

yes

Also what's your read on Maestro?

Probably I will consider that. I don't think someone like to replace VT slot. Like you, Wis. But I don't want lose in my town record again, really. (I feel this is going to be town lose...)

Maestro think something same like me, now perhaps.

because it's the same horseshit I voted jmo for the first half of the day - no matter what else is going on in the game, everyone claiming is ridiculous and stupid because it confuses us more than it does Scum. since they'd already had a successful shot they were obviously smart enough to look out for tells - claiming Mason if you're not or claiming VT if you're not just allows them to pick up on even more that some of the idiots in our Town might miss

^This. I should say, I'm 100% agree with this. I told that my misery is worse right now, yes, because of this one. Since the page 1, this is getting worse than before.

I like to say, this is confuse someone who cares to protect Masons. I tried to not push masons at all, because lynching masons or make the real masons claim his role, it isn't funny things to happen. And leading town to lose of course, like the older game. (By the way, Kondi / Klick is town in this game) (I need to check again the old game)

I thought Maestro probably the one who shot Lucky, dunno, but my gut said it. But he had consistency about that (which post I quoted). Below example :

If my last post implies I'm mason btw, I'm not.

we stop the clusterfuck, jmo explains why he's being dumb

should I replace out? or just sheep Wisdom and hope that everybody's right because we all seem to think he's Town which is good but is making me paranoid

Whatever this last one, but I consider this also.

whatever, I will hopefully be able to take some time this weekend to fix my mindset, but if I don't I will replace out on Tuesday

Any way, this is town post which made me ignore Maestro a lot :

basically what I'm thinking ATM is that all of us fucks could easily be Town just eating away at eachother's patience while Scum lurk till somebody Mason-slips or some shit

If you think this is scummy, I like to lynch myself to prove I have this logic also, but please, no vote for Maestro after that. I think he is town now because of this. (But well, this is going to count as my game. Fvkc)

[Lincolm]

Perhaps this good one

@TIP : Any comment to my post? 2 post above?

[Lincolm]

jmo's flipped VT [...] Kattaze brain-faded onto him

2Bs1s didn't say Kattaze shot JMO. You misrep it.

Rubbish. Not a misrep.

That's what

I

said. Wisdom thought I agreed with 2Bs1s word for word, although I did agree with the basic thought that KX is more likely town, I changed his speculation that Kattaze shot

KX

, to Kattaze shot

JMO

.

I haven't quite got the time right now to reply to anything else in more detail. Also, sadly some of your longer replies are really getting lost in translation.

First up, KX is town. He's played badly pretty badly, but literally all that anyone's brought up against him is the Kattaze misfire. I would like the "Katt was obv derailing a lynch" theory, except he's an absolute beginner AFAICT, and he was lurking hardcore up until that moment; I think it's more likely that he took a shot on KX after reading/re-reading the first few pages, hence his "sorry brainfade" comment.

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The little bit about Kattaze is speculative, but given jmo's flipped VT there's as good a chance Kattaze brain-faded onto him.[...]

You did not post this to change the opinion of 2Bs1s. Kattaze shot KX scenario almost likely impossible. And you didn't even ask about that to 2Bs1s. I have a conclusion that you agreed about this (even a little).

Your post is rubish, thanks.

Ask anything I didn't explain clearly. I know some of my posts would have a lot of wrong grammar.

I don't see why scum Maestro couldnt post that

Experience.

Also "I will replace out" without actually replacing out is bullshit and cant be used as a towntell.

Not a towntell. I consider that why he is inactive (or lurking better word).

Uhm no comments on your posts, no

This one?

(Hint : This is essentially I claimed as VT, I think everyone noticed this, so no need to hide, I already breadcrumb it in my avatar, funny breadcrumb )

I don't think they have applied the same logic though. For example, Lincolm's vote on me was after calling me lazy and going for an easy target. If I wanted an easy target, wouldn't I have gone for KX?

Easy target doesn't mean the most who had vote in him (My experience said scum prefer to avoid the wagon when this happen), but someone who you can accuse easily. That is easy target.

when obviously I know I am town

When obviously

when obviously I know I am town

When obviously we only know ourself alignment. Self justification will not help you.

Lincolm's presence on irish's wagon and the fact 2bird1stone is pretty admanant irish is town.

And the fact I am pretty adamant Irish and PoPP are scum. You didn't read.

[Lincolm]

But that's kind of okay though, because your actions are scummy, so I don't need to focus too hard on what some of your points are.

Same with me. We have a deal then.

[Lincolm]

I hate as VT in this setup...

I have strong read that Wisdom is VT, and since KX already said he is VT, and after developing everywhere I devide 6 person to 2 for Masons group:
TIP - PoPP - Nvious
Maestro - Slimer - BoroPhil

Y'know, because TIP's claim I just ended at the top as scum, Nvious as VT.

Please, don't fvkcing claim VT or Masons. Bullshit everywhere.

Any way, what kind of scum claiming VT in whole thread in their avatar?