Open 510: DUCK DUCK GOOSE- SCUM WIN!!
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Sorry for the comment, in over two years of mafia games that is a tally the first time I've had first post in a game :p
All to do with the opening times of games, being English I'm normally in bed when a game opens...
Anyway,vote treblebecause the accounts making up the hydra aren't listed... That's scummy.-
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Since I'm fairly new to site it won't actually make any difference because there are very few players here I have an impression of to allow for any form of meta read, I just found it odd that we have three hydras in game and treble is the only one without the users behind it listed.
I didn't know you could look up hydras, is there a database on here?
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That's a hell of a reach for something of any worth notmara.In post 27, NotMara wrote:Hello. This is a hydra of Rob13 and Maestro. I'll attempt to remember to sign posts but may occasionally forget - just ask if you aren't sure who's posting.
Also - are you guys even serious right now? There are a decent amount of players with experience in this game and no one has even remotely attempted to get out of RVS even a little bit.
Siv is a better player than this. No RVS vote. No attempt to provoke anyone or prod anyone into giving more info.In post 5, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Sixth Post!
Keeps us in RVS. No attempt to make any useful contributions. Again - Siv is better than this. There were multiple things to potentially pressure before this post that he could have taken up and prodded at to see if anything squirmed. Instead, he was totally content to keep us in RVS.
Other offenders on the Doc shiz include Sakura Hana (new to the game, so I doubt this is alignment indicative) and Taskmaster (same). TIP is not someone I'm concerned about "claiming" doctor because he did it first. If anything, it's a decent attempt to get reactions which is a town-tell (although an extremely small one).
But, after all that, I'm gonna place my vote on someone else entirely. Generic is not looking good. His #3 is fine RVS material for a first post of the game - not alignment indicative. His apology for it without anyone calling him out on it in #8 is alignment indicative, though. He's overly concerned with how people are viewing him. That's scum behavior, not town behavior. He then does more-or-less the same thing in #11 where he changes his vote and defends himself pretty hard against someone telling him to do the research if he wants to know the heads in their hydra - which isn't even an accusation of anything. Overly defensive, throwing votes around left-and-right with no attempt to find scum, commented on the doc business with no analysis, etc. - all of them point to either complete noob-town or scum. He claims two years of experience playing the game, so I'm going to go with scum. Even on another site without the rigor of play that MS has, he would know better as town if he played for a solid two years.
Vote: Generic
This, if not obvious, is a serious vote.
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I stand by my 2nd post in game, I was pleased to finally steal first post of the game. My 2nd vote was RVS, and so was my 3rd.
And you wanted me to analyse 4 claims of doc in RVS?
Come back when you have an actual case. The more interesting reaction though was hana. Blindly follows you weak case before questioning me on something that happened at the start of the game involving an RVS vote I made.
It doesn't matter hana, that was my point when I mentioned not really having meta as an option.
And both of you cling to this comment of it being odd behaviour from me. Please do elaborate how it's odd play for me. What's usual for me?-
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Sigh.
Ok hana, lets start over, cos you aren't listening or you are just slow...
Ok, lets go through it step by step for you...In post 11, Generic wrote:Since I'm fairly new to site it won't actually make any difference because there are very few players here I have an impression of to allow for any form of meta read, I just found it odd that we have three hydras in game and treble is the only one without the users behind it listed.
I didn't know you could look up hydras, is there a database on here?
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O. M. G. U. S....
New to site, won't make a difference if I know the usernames or not.
This means I don't actually care and just found it odd their identities are hidden.
Meta doesn't matter to me.
Meta has nothing to do with it, just curiosity at hidden info.
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In post 38, NotMara wrote:It's odd for anyone to defend themselves against an accusation that no one made. It's indicative of being overly concerned with your appearance to others - something that is generally exhibited only by scum or noob-town. The fact that you're talking about the game in a rather sophisticated manner (especially in the line of defense involving my lack of established meta on you) and claim a lot of experience makes me think you're not noob-town. From there, I connected the dots.
And is it reaching? Yes. This is page 2. It's the best lead I have at the moment. I think it's a pretty good one, though.
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It was figure of speech apologetic, that's the most you can call it. Maybe I am too British for your tastes, but to try and build a case on it is a reach.
Your logic was only n00b or scum would apologise without provocation due to self image. Why would n00b town be hung up on image? Only type who get caught in that are n00b scum. So you insult me sir to not only wrongly accuse me as scum, but n00b scum at that.
You said it yourself, I'm not new to mafia, so why would I get hung up in self image? As town or mafia what the hell is my motivation?
Your whole case hinges on the assumption that experienced scum would openly show self image awareness on their 2nd post? Are your experienced a I'm players on mafiascum that transparent?
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In post 42, Sakura Hana wrote:oh wow i just realized, you're still fence sitting on my vote from the RVS, are you out of RVS yet
P-Edit: did you just use WIFOM ._.
Oh no hana, I'm not fence sitting on it. While notmara is trying to make something of nothing, you are riding his coat tails... Badly I might add. You have tried to add to it and messed up, so went back to 'what he said'.
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And on the wifom, notmara is building a case on a single assumption that only scum or new town are obvious in self image awareness. That simply ain't true on any level. That's making the analysis fit the desired conclusion.
Pedit, and I did say something on the 'apology'. Figure of speech, and I usually like to lead into a game with more than screaming 'first post' so it was simply recognition of the giddiness.
To me it's something of nothing, but if you guys really want to insult my intelligence over it carry on getting bogged down with the insincere apologetic opening to my 2nd post (which was more in line with my intended opening until I realised I was first in on the thread)-
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Are you be deliberately dense or is sarcasm alien to you?
You opportunistically jumped on my wagon based solely on a weak case before I had even responded. You tried to add to it yourself but much like now failed to read what was written and came up with a total misinterpretation. You then when your addition fell apart reverted to 'oh, err, what he said then'.
You continue to either misinterpret or misrepresent me and then began to try and force me to unvote you by making that somehow scummy, and when all that failed you tried to throw someone else into the cross fire.
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Why vote you instead of who?
I gave my reason for voting you. I said notmara has tried to make a case against me out of nothing but at least it was his case, all you did was you leapt onto opportunistically without waiting on my response. Or do you mean the other guy, who just said they agreed with the comments made but did nothing else with it at that point?
Mafia rarely try to build a case from very little because they risk it being torn apart and they are then in focus, or if it somehow gets run up and there is a mislynch from it the person who pushed the case is first to be scrutinised. Most of the time mafia tag on to the cases of others with minimal persuasion needed... Sound familiar?
You seem really reactive to a single vote on you, and from a person you claim to think I'd scum anyway so why are you so antagonised by it?-
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Your arguement against me never stood at all, let alone on its own notmara.
You basically said I was worried about self image, which is your interpretation of my 2nd post, and then said only new town and mafia would do that. So immediately you are placing only two scenarios I could possibly be based on your interpretation of a single line in a single post and already armed with information I freely offered up. You then accuse my vote on hana of bring OMGUS which is a cheap tactic and defence of the same person who leapt blindly onto the wagon you started. I gave my reasons for the vote REMAINING on hana after she made a big deal that I was still voting for her.
You feel that Hanas play in jumping on a vote immediately after you did, misrep me with a follow up arguement before backing down and simply going 'well what rob said then' and making a big deal of my vote not bring taken off her from RVS and then try to throw someone else in the way of the arguement to a kid being the focus was perfectly fine then?-
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I was in RVS, maybe I missed something but isn't the point if RVS to have fun?
And how can I be concerned with self image one minute and then tossing votes around with reckless abandon the next? I'm either carefully ensuring I don't look bad or I'm wildly pissing about and not caring.., it can't be both.
And the doc business is pathetic. The setup is one shot PGOs, no docs. Are you seriously wanting me to analyse 4 people claiming a role that has already been established by the mod as not even in the game?
This isn't a weak case... This is no case at all. I was giving notmara a little credit by focusing on the only part if that case that had even the slightest bit of something realistic about it, a misinterpretation of my figure of speech.-
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And hana, that's reaction to the vote being on you, you try to spin the fact it was still on you as tactical when I was busy arguing against the poor case against me. You were more concerned the vote was there than my reasons for it.In post 42, Sakura Hana wrote:oh wow i just realized, you're still fence sitting on my vote from the RVS, are you out of RVS yet
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Hey voodoo lady, I notice you completely ignored my response to the rest if the 'case' against me, shall I assume you realised it was actually not a case?
I believe if you look at the time stamp there is 2 minutes between post 7 and 8. I am working from a phone, posting while at work. I was responding in #8 to something before mutleys post, then returned to it in #11. Again, trying to build something from nothing.
And notmara, you are about to tell me that I am not skilled in posting correctly in RVS I take it. Mafiascum players seem to think they are the cream of the crop, yet you apparently according to you, hana and voodoo have a case against me consisting of misinterpretation of a figure of speech, self awareness of self image but also reckless abandon, and not commenting on 4 doctor claims in a game with no do for role... You guys are the BEST at this, no doubt.
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Ok, now I know you are doing this deliberately. You CANNOT be as stupid as you are coming across.In post 86, Sakura Hana wrote:
You ever heard of joking? i've played with syv and TIP before so i felt like following them up on their game, TaskMaster is also an hydra of 2 people i know so my guess is that they also were continuing the joke. I was perfectly aware about there being no docs on the setup, so i realized from the start they were just joking around.In post 84, Generic wrote:on 4 doctor claims in a game with no do for role...
Makes me wonder if you're just trying to find reasons to suspect me or are you gonna ever ask me questions to determine my alignment.
Read both notmaras original post THAT YOU ENDORSED, and voodoo lady's recently. Both poke at me as suspicious for not analysing 4 doctor claims.... That was the basis of a reason why I'm scum, be ause I joked about the 4 doctor claims rather than do so e indepth analysis about it...
Now stay with me hana, we are almost here...
This game has no doctors. None at all. It's in the setup. WHY would I need to analyse the claims?
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This is a piss take it really is.
I'm going to appeal to ANYONE else in this game, is there another language I need to put it in that hana will understand? German, French, Spanish?
In post 27, NotMara wrote:Hello. This is a hydra of Rob13 and Maestro. I'll attempt to remember to sign posts but may occasionally forget - just ask if you aren't sure who's posting.
Also - are you guys even serious right now? There are a decent amount of players with experience in this game and no one has even remotely attempted to get out of RVS even a little bit.
Siv is a better player than this. No RVS vote. No attempt to provoke anyone or prod anyone into giving more info.In post 5, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:Sixth Post!
Keeps us in RVS. No attempt to make any useful contributions. Again - Siv is better than this. There were multiple things to potentially pressure before this post that he could have taken up and prodded at to see if anything squirmed. Instead, he was totally content to keep us in RVS.
Other offenders on the Doc shiz include Sakura Hana (new to the game, so I doubt this is alignment indicative) and Taskmaster (same). TIP is not someone I'm concerned about "claiming" doctor because he did it first. If anything, it's a decent attempt to get reactions which is a town-tell (although an extremely small one).
But, after all that, I'm gonna place my vote on someone else entirely. Generic is not looking good. His #3 is fine RVS material for a first post of the game - not alignment indicative. His apology for it without anyone calling him out on it in #8 is alignment indicative, though. He's overly concerned with how people are viewing him. That's scum behavior, not town behavior. He then does more-or-less the same thing in #11 where he changes his vote and defends himself pretty hard against someone telling him to do the research if he wants to know the heads in their hydra - which isn't even an accusation of anything. Overly defensive, throwing votes around left-and-right with no attempt to find scum,commented on the doc business with no analysis, etc.- all of them point to either complete noob-town or scum. He claims two years of experience playing the game, so I'm going to go with scum. Even on another site without the rigor of play that MS has, he would know better as town if he played for a solid two years.
Vote: Generic
This, if not obvious, is a serious vote.
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This is part of the case against me. That I didn't analyse a fucking set of obvious jokes about being a role NOT in the fucking game.
Nothing to do with any of you who claimed doc AT ALL.
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Siveure, I was in RVS still in my mind, and after the 4th person claimed doc (flogging that joke to beyond life support) I made the ER joke.
Why would it warrant analysis when I knew all the claims were jokes? And why am I the one having it wielded as an accusation against me when 3 people copied the joke of TIP rather than analyse the others they lazily copied.
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But hana you have tip as null when his entire contribution to the game has been a doc claim, an introduction, drum noise, congratulating notmara on a town tell from him, calling defender a wizard, returning to notmara with displeasure at being considered null when he displayed a 'towntell', despair at 'not being a doc', pissing about with the mod and then pointing out you have half the games posts.
So that's disengagement with any other player in the game during RVS, self image awareness when his town tell doesn't make him a town read to someone, more disengagement with all ongoing events outside RVS, then an irrelevant point about the game.
And that's a null read to you over treble and myself?
unvote, vote the Irish pope
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Did you or did you not say that it was nothing to do with the vote but the reasons why that you took issue?
My vote is a pressure vote to stop a player who is clearly avoiding engaging with anyone or any issue and for e him to engage me.
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Not really a useless vote when I stand by it and intend to keep pointing it out until tip actually does something of value.
It's all well and good three of you attacking me on nothing point while you allow several players to sit back and do fuck all.
I will just go silent and leave you all to it, rather than actively engage in the game, because any enjoyment for it early on left when hana decided to play stupid on everything I wrote making have to repeat every fucking point three times.
But you carry on building nothing out of nothing, so much more productive than calling out those thinking they can hide away until day end.-
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In post 121, Sakura Hana wrote:
That was before i read #107 I flipped him from null to FoS at that post, just because you managed to ninja me doesn't mean i flipped because of you calling me on it.In post 119, Generic wrote:Saying the intention behind it made no difference. Hana had tip as null until he/she realised the hypocrisy of having treble as leaning d I'm for much less, my intentions have further highlighted tip not being willing to involve himself. That's not pro town in the slightest.
Nothing to do with me. You changed your mind when defender pointed out tips unusual behaviour.
Covering your arse as an afterthought doesn't change the fact your reads are either motivated by a tactic or simply lazily thrown together. Either makes them unreliable.-
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In post 125, Ms Marangal wrote:
Deadline is 7/24/2013 4:30 GMT (That's (expired on 2013-07-24 08:30:00))mara, you have two wagons there for me. Put them together please. I should have three votes on me.
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So I'm being voted for for over defensiveness now? Two people attacking me with points I have disputed. Defender I think it was said I was unsuccessful in defending them, can I ask them which were the valid points?
The self awareness of image coupled with no consideration for image by scattered voting?
Or was it not analysing 4 people claiming a role that's not in the game?
And I'm fighting my corner against three people, because notmara presented the weak case, and hana and voodoo lady were opportunistically trying to push on it. Neither brought anything extra to the table.
As for scum hunting, I am voting tip, was voting hana and both had reasons attached that were my own. Hana has been doing more scum hunting by riding notmaras coat tails, changing her opinion of tip based on defenders comments, and called treble scummy for fluffiness.
Wow, scumhunting here is different to what I'm used to, I put independent thought into mine, guess I shouldn't other.
I haven't got a chance of defending myself because a few of you are setting boundaries to stop me. Can't fight my corner cos I'm being over defensive, the only thing people are apparently voting for me on. When should I defend myself then? I had three votes on me, that's now 4 (possibly 5 when notmara jumps back on).
Do very on with lynching me, at least there will be my wagon to analyse day 2 and those who boxed me in so I can't even defend myself.
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In post 149, Taskmaster wrote:This head is just catching up. A lot of useless shit came from the last 5 pages
For instance:
- Generic overreacting to the obvious joke doctor claims
- Generic changing RVS votes (Notw: he claims that its OMGUS, but muttley voted him even before his first vote)
- Treble doing the same with the second RVS OMGUS
- Generic changing again. Seriously, we do not need 3 RVS votes
- Generic being defensive as hell for one post made by NotMara
- TIP doing absolutely nothing but stalling
- Treble's 'go team'
This makes the whole thread a huge headache to read. Theres lots of unnecessary shit here.
Aside from that
- Why is defender defending all the doctor claims? And defending Generic after VoodooLady accused him of the weird OMGUS
- Why is Sakura OMGUS-ing everyone who suspects her?
- Rob, why is Generic looking better? IMO he looks a lot worse
- Generic's vote on Sakura was pretty much OMGUS on the WEAKER target. Generic made a case on him. Sakura agreed. Generic then tunnels on Sakura but rarely focuses on NotMara.
-BTW Generic's "Mafia dont bother making cases" is a lot of crap. If they dont make cases, they cant get mislynches.Simple as that. It seems like youre trying to make us think you're making cases, so you can't be mafia
- TIP is literally doing nothing this game
- SOS, why is TIP town for an RVS joke that literally anyone can make?
- Pope's 128 was bad. Now thats a shit vote
- Muttley also hasn't caught up and decided to comment on the ducks. And not give reasons for why both are scum. Are they bussing, muttley?
People I like: NotMara, VoodooLady
People who deserve votes: Generic, Muttley, TIP
So the vote was already on TIP, but I like a Generic vote better
VOTE: Generic
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If they don't make cases, they can't get mislynches... Your exact words. So I pointed out mafia have other methods so they aren't even in focus when the shit hits the fan.
And is there more of you who don't read? I NEVER brought up the thing about the doc jokes. Notmara and then voodoo lady both claimed as part of a case against me that I had joked about the doc claims but not ANALYSED it??? I mentioned this 4 times, yet every time people respond back like its me making a big deal about it, I'm defending a spurious point, one of many.
I'm accused of over defensiveness and defeatism, too ducking right I am now. I've been worn down, frustrated like you wouldn't ducking believe at having to re dxain every single point because people like hana and taskmaster are either misinterpreting or misrepresenting me.
So take the easy lynch, I've had enough for today. I have to repeat myself and I'm accused over over defending, it's bullshit.-
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He can be carefree about it though, people are seeing a wagon over halfway and going for the easy option. Why bother checking if there was any case behind it, just vote.
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I misjudged you earlier in the game voodoo lady when I thought you were joining the push on me over nothing. But this is a very good case, and as always the right to reply is important.In post 245, Voodoo Lady wrote:Hate to interrupt your bandwagoning, but Taskmaster's scum.
Take a gander at 156-- the second and third bullet points in particular.
This seems alright at first glance. He disagrees with the points NotMara and co. brought up, but he still thinks Generic is scummy for different reasons.In post 156, Taskmaster wrote:2) I think the case against Generic is crap, but I'm not dismissing he can be scum.
The problem with this point is-- beyond the passive-aggression of voting for someone then saying that you're "not dismissing he can be scum"-- the terrible attempt to distance himself from NotMara's argument. Which is plain outright ridiculous because in 149, he brought up practically all of the points NotMara made against Generic in his first post. Let's go over those, shall we?
- 1) NotMara calls out Generic for being overly defensive. Taskmaster criticizes Generic for being "defensive as hell for one post made by NotMara" in 149, and later claims that "being defensive clearly indicates you have something to hide" in 155 to solidify his read.
2) NotMara calls out Generic for tossing around his vote willy-nilly during RVS. Taskmaster complains about Generic's vote changing-- "Seriously, we do not need 3 RVS votes."
3) NotMara calls out Generic for his reaction to the fake doc claims. Taskmaster calls out Generic's reaction to the fake doc claims.
The icing on the cake is his most recent post, 236.
In post 236, Taskmaster wrote:VOTE: Sakura
TERRIBLE response. Looks like scum who knows they're in trouble and buddies someone who presents a legitimate case.Post 156, Taskmaster wrote:3) I think Sakura is town.
Huh? You had Sakura as a townread before, then suddenly do a 180 with all of one line of justification? You had three other people you thought deserved posts earlier, but all of them seem to have dropped off your lists for some reason. I wonder why? Oh right-- they don't have major wagons forming on them right now.Post 149, Taskmaster wrote:People who deserve votes: Generic, Muttley, TIP
Taskmaster is being blatantly opportunistic and deserves much, much more scrutiny.
VOTE: Taskmaster
Some excellent points made, let's see what taskmasters defense to this will be.
Ok, acknowledges there is a case against them, must be a marker post to give a strong comeback.In post 247, Taskmaster wrote:You wanna tango? Bring it on.
So a hydra hiding behind multiplayer setup to excuse all inconsistencies in their comments. That's the whole defense.In post 248, Taskmaster wrote:First 2 quotes were me, last was the other head. We don't agree on everything, but we do agree your case is bad and should feel bad.
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This is why I don't like the idea of hydras, but at least some of them make it clear when they are the different users talking.
Not at all convinced you have a defense for that case, and earlier you pulled a similar trick to Hana in misrepresenting me to further push my buttons.
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Taskmaster, you just used my voting for hana instead of notmara against me as picking on a weaker target when I had already pointed out her vote was opportunistic.In post 260, Taskmaster wrote:You do realize that the posts where I agree with NotMara was mine and the one where we say Generic's case was bad was notscience's right? I voted for Generic cause I thought he was being scummy. I guess science was at fault for not fucking signing but your case is pretty opportunistic, considering its pretty obvious that it was hydra dissonance.
Also, do you not agree that the turn around was scummy? I know i said I had people I want to lynch, but do you not consider that thing by Sakura as scummy? When i saw that, i was gonna vote for her. So apparently, because we had voted out of the range I previously listed, it means we're scum, right? Because people can't change their minds, right? /sarcasm
BTW Generic's vote was opportunistic as fuck. "I thought you were bad over pushing me, but now Im totally buddying you, Voodoo!"
And look, you tell me my vote is opportunistic, hypocricisy. Guess I'm the weaker target out of me and voodoo.
And yes I change my opinion of voodoo lady, she explained where I had misinterpreted her post to me. It's called misjudgement, are you incapable of changing your opinion based on later explanations?
I read her pointing to other parts of the weak case against me as her joining in and pointing out things I hadn't answered. She just explained that in fact she was helping me debunk a weak case.
Her case on you though I thought had merit, a case you still haven't bothered to defend against beyond hiding behind a difference of opinion in the hydra.-
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In post 271, Taskmaster wrote:Other head here. Generic, thats bullshit.
1. I dont know where you're the weaker target off you and voodoo when a) we havent voted either of you and b) we attacked voodoo's case. Even more. Why. So. Defensive?
2. Where havent we attacked the case? Are you misrepping us on purpose??
Oh I see, you are pulling that shit again pretending to be stupid. Do you know how many times you reference me in that post I quoted? I don't see voodoo mentioned, but you then directly attack me calling my vote opportunistic.
If you check my posts, I have a reason for voting hana, the person one of you thinks is s btw, and it was to do with her wheeling notmaras case and the vote was opportunistic.
You are accusing me of this, but you also accused me of being d ummy for my voting for hana... That's hypocrisy. It's one or the other, either my vote on you is bullshit or my vote for her that led to you voting for me is bullshit. Can't be both.
Difference here again is I went on to dispute every single aspect of the case on me, you keep harping back to hydra indecision then trying to divert attention back to me.
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And we're you not being a hypocrite then? Or has the hydra heads started writing different halves of the same post now?
You have one user thinking notmaras case is crap, yet you voted for me (fuck knows who made that decision) based on over defensiveness. What was over defensive about being run up to 3 votes off no case, then that growing to 5 when I dared to dispute it frustratedly?
You are hiding behind user indecision, do you not have a provision to discuss the game with each other or is it really blind posting each, one making a decision and the other posting the exact ducking opposite?
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In post 292, Taskmaster wrote:Your only case against us is the fact that we are undecided as a hydra, yet we agree swimmingly now. When have we contradicted each other recently? Oh and we are hypocrites. Which doesnt make sense. Explain.
Defensiveness is scummy because you'd rather defend yourself and avoid votes than actually getting votes off you by scum hunting and convincing people youre motivations are protown. If you were town, you wouldnt be so concerned.
Absolute bullshit. You are defending yourself now. Don't argue the case taskmaster, scumhunting to show you are town... See, ducking crap.
I dispute a weak case and defend myself, it's me and its what I do. I also pointed to Hanas scumminess, is that not scum hunting. I pointed out I felt tip was avoiding engaging with the game which I thought was trying to coast. I'm calling you out on hypocricy and at the time I also called voodoo out on what appeared to be opportunism latching on to the nothing case against me and then ignoring my response.
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You want the answer to the question, read back
The hypocricy is targeting me with suspicion for what you call an opportunistic vote on you... Yet you used my voting for hana as a reason I'm scum, when I clearly stated her vote was opportunistic.
So which is it? Am I the weaker target of me and voodoo you are attacking like you accused me of with hana, or did I have a point about hana and therefore your reason for calling me scum was bullshit?
Hypocricy.
And again, I am not meant to defend myself against the nothing case against me, I must only scumhunting to prove I'm town or else get accused of being over defensive.
But you? You are fine to defend yourself over what you call a weak case... But you aren't being over defensive?
My vote stays where it is, you aren't about proving the case was weak, you are about trying to misrepresent me through it. Scummy.-
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You accused me of over defensiveness for disputing a nothing case. So you are misrepresenting me there.
You still failed to answer my point about hypocricy. You made a scum point against me for voting hana, yet my reason for voting her was her vote was opportunistic, the same thing you are now accusing me of.
Do how does that not answer the misrepresenting? You are either calling me scummy now for bullshit reasons or you were back originally. You can't be genuine in your reason for both, they contradict each other.-
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I disputed a weak case against me. Just like you are claiming to be doing.In post 292, Taskmaster wrote:Your only case against us is the fact that we are undecided as a hydra, yet we agree swimmingly now. When have we contradicted each other recently? Oh and we are hypocrites. Which doesnt make sense. Explain.
Defensiveness is scummy because you'd rather defend yourself and avoid votes than actually getting votes off you by scum hunting and convincing people youre motivations are protown.If you were town, you wouldnt be so concerned.
I took issue with the person who voted second, just like you.
Exactly the same, yet I was scummy for doing it, you aren't in your opinion.-
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I never said you found her scummy for that reason. I said she was scummy to me for the exact reason you accused me of when I voted for you. Yet you also said my vote on her was unjustified. So that is an hypocrisy (happy now grammar nazi?, people in glass houses...)In post 306, Taskmaster wrote:How is that a misrep? I see youre being over defensive. I see it that way. You not seeing it this way is not equal to misrepresentation. Misrepresentation is me blatantly accusing you of something you didnt do. So in any case, what you are doing is misrepresenting us.
Hypocrisy (spell it right) is NOT a scum tell. By that logic, all townies make logical arguments, right? They never make mistakes, right? By that logic, town always wins, right? So what the fuck is the point of playing. Anyway our reasons for voting for Sakura's defensiveness were in DIFFERENT CONTEXTS. It would be hypocrisy if I said Sakura i scum for jumping you. However, I find Sakura scummy for something entirely different. Now thats a misrep.
Have I not taken issue with the first person who voted as well?
And how is it not misrepresenting me? You called me scum for voting for her yet you call me scum under the same logic I voted for her on. Total misrep.-
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In post 310, Taskmaster wrote:Context is different. Thats what is different. We used them under different context. Why the fuck is that so hard to understand
So that is hypocrisy* Yes Im a total grammar nazi
The context is only different because its you now using it rather than me. And they are different yes, cos my vote was not opportunistic, but you read it that way yet it wasnt an acceptable reason when I voted for hana.
And it seems you knowingly did that as you haven't admitted to indecision causing that hypocrisy, so it was a misrep.-
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In post 314, Taskmaster wrote:The context was different because you voted Sakura for jumping on a case against you, while not attacking Rob. We voted for Sakura because she said she agrees with someone's case against her. Thats why the context is different. Why is it so hard to understand??
You are acting like TiP in the first ever game I rage quit from. You are useless. Useless as fuck
Says the moron not listening.
I'm not comparing your fucking vote on hana to mine retard. I'm comparing you calling me s um for voting for her based in her opportunistic vote and then calling me scum for what you call an opportunistic vote. The fact you haven't voted for me is worse because you are trying to paint me as a I'm without bothering to make a statement yourself on it. I would have had more respect for your arguement had you voted for me over it, but you are happy to wait and hope the shit you are slinging stick and no doubt will aim to move in later on me. You don't want the accusation of OMGUS.-
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Every time I go to write something, my spelling and grammar is awful and I have six more posts to review before I can post my comment.
Taskmaster, lets draw the line in the sand here. You have had your day, I have had mine. We don't agree. Vote for me if you think I'm scum, stay with hana if you think she is scummier. But I need to do some work and we have consumed the game with this enough.-
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