Open 524: Donner Party (Game Over)

[Banakai]

VOTE: qwertyuiop[/vote
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Also, I have an idea for a strategy but it probbably sucks so please tell me why it does

What if we take a second "Unofficial vote" for who the vigilante shoots? Like having a double day that can be affected by roleblockers/if the vigilante is killed

Pros:
More stuff to analyze
vigs who are bad don't shoot the wrong people
if a vig is set to kill himself he can fake roleblock or having been killed instead of forcing himself to claim by lynch

Cons:
Scum can affect the votes
vigs might not listen
We might force a power role to claim
Scum knows not to kill that person guaraunteeing they don't kill the same person

Now that I think of it theres more cons than pros although some of them might be less severe

[Banakai]

VOTE: qwertyuiop
Fail tags

[Banakai]

Also since when does wagon = train

[Banakai]

okay

Also I wasn't trying to counter wagon I just didn't want to put someone at L-1

[Banakai]

Well theres three scum in the game who are "Hungry" for a quick lynch

lol hungry see what I did there

[Banakai]

There are also town in the game who don't want to open up the door for a quick lynch

[Banakai]

Someone could come into the thread and post a vote without reading the thread and accidentally lynch

Also scum could pretend that happened

[Banakai]

I don't know yet!

[Banakai]

Where did I imply that?

[Banakai]

Why does that imply I can tell who's scum?

The setup has 3 scum who are all cannibals, hence the hungry joke

[Banakai]

So did bk201 in his first post ^

[Banakai]

Because I just replaced into a game and I'm trying to read it and also I'm playing a game on another site where I have to rhyme in every post so that takes a long time

[Banakai]

My vote on Wisdom was more of "hi Wisdom and goodmorning" rather than "die scum"

I'd say this as scum but still not sure of anybody

[Banakai]

It probbably means nothing because it was RVS

But it just seemed like an excuse to sheep Bk

[Banakai]

maybe not to you

[Banakai]

Because saying hello to two people is a reason to hop your vote around in RVS and somehow during that hopping the vote landed on BK, the largest wagon

[Banakai]

Two people had already voted BK

Also Bk any explanation for that vote?

[Banakai]

Oh

He said he was just saying hello as an excuse^

[Banakai]

That made 0 sense

[Banakai]

@bk btw

[Banakai]

How is thinking something is scummy fail reading comprehension

[Banakai]

I will after I eat

[Banakai]

Yes, voting me before I even make my argument

Saki said that she voted wisdom and good morning because she was saying hello

This implies she wasn't trying to reaction test or anything like that

then she moves to BK201 and doesn't say hello (And hasn't said if it was a reaction test) Bk201 was the largest wagon at the time so it seemed like a bandwagon

[Banakai]

No but she didn't say afterwards

[Banakai]

I didn't even notice there was a wisdom wagon

[Banakai]

But wagons can be scummy and they can not be scummy, the wisdom wagon looks like a reaction test to me.

[Banakai]

I like chicken

[Banakai]

How do I know?

Why don't you ask them

[Banakai]

I'm not on the wagon so I don't really know but

I think most people were although there might be some band wagoning happening there

[Banakai]

You spelled my name wrong

[Banakai]

rational madman is scum.. The vig claiming wouldn't help town AT ALL. It would just take away our power to nightkill scum and with the number of scum in this game it might be difficult without.

VOTE: Rational madman

[Banakai]

@morning: Alright, what about your town read on Bana? What's that based on?

Perhaps you aren't reading as closely as you seem to be:

I just think based on his early attempt to break the game, even if it wasn't a great idea, he looks Town.
(Yes, I am aware Scum can pretend to break games for towncred. I don't think that's the case here, he feels genuine.)

There's also a dash of meta to it but I can't talk about that.

What on Earth was useful in that?

The dash of meta will be useful in 2 weeks at the most

[Banakai]

How would the dietician knowing the cannible is scum help? It's better to actually have the vigilante kill a few people and then get mislynched than to get him nightkilled to confirm scum.

[Banakai]

Sorry guys I was doing something

Scum is either that rational guy or qwerty

VOTE: qwertyuiop

[Banakai]

lol jokes

[Banakai]

Because he's been lurking all game and posting crap and omgus'ed me in RVS And my first game I omgused exactly like that as scum (and to the mod of this game too) so I feel like it's probbably a scum tell

[Banakai]

Okay well he's still lurking and posting crap and only pops in when he needs to help himself

[Banakai]

It's not oppurtunistic voting if you log on and see people arguements and votes for him and agree with them so you vote him

[Banakai]

you said that it feels the same as when you were scum and he was town....

[Banakai]

even the first part is worded as if you were scum...

[Banakai]

Why is everyone unvoting? Did I miss something?

[Banakai]

That didn't answer my question...

[Banakai]

Okay then

[Banakai]

...

It's tommorow

[Banakai]

Thread needs more conversation

[Banakai]

Well that's a very nice point to add to the conversation there wisdom

[Banakai]

So what made you change your vote?

[Banakai]

Why not try to convince people to vote the player you were voting (In this case it was me) instead of voting someone because you were "Bored"

[Banakai]

But why did you vote qwerty over other players

[Banakai]

Why do you think He's scum

[Banakai]

k

[Banakai]

Karnage you running out of jokes?

Also I feel like evil is town but I thought madman was scum. so conflicted.

[Banakai]

Oh I thought Evil replaced madman

[Banakai]

From my experience (1 game) Good morning isn't acting like when he was town. Not sure if he acts differently sometimes though

[Banakai]

That made ABSOLUTELY no sense at all

[Banakai]

Still seems like an excuse from Qwerty

[Banakai]

Scum can seem like VI's

[Banakai]

Probbably the three people voting him ^

[Banakai]

I'm up for either qwerty or good morning

[Banakai]

I agree that scum are not likely to confuse their partner's slot, but otherwise it depends on the person playing. It's not impossible for someone who doesn't care much about the game to confuse two slots, even if they're scum.

I assume scum would at least get who replaced who correct, since they are in nature extra wary of their own posts, much more so than town. Sure it varies by player, but I think Banakai is legit based on his join date and the fact it is more likely for town to mess that up than scum. Banakai is town in my book.

YOU may be able to fake that but people say that I wouldn't

Although I don't see how what I said makes me look town though. I probbably would have made the same mistake as scum

[Banakai]

I'm much more confortable with a qwerty lynch.

Also we have to lynch soon or I'm afraid of missing the deadline

[Banakai]

I'm worried about missing the deadline because the thread keeps slowing down

[Banakai]

UNVOTE: qwertyuiop
VOTE: Goodmorning

[Banakai]

Lol I got on the good morning wagon because it was apparent that nobody was going to help me lynch qwerty

[Banakai]

But please refrain from hammering me when I'm at school please.

[Banakai]

Would it be a good time to claim?

[Banakai]

I still think It's either good morning or qwerty

[Banakai]

well that's a possibility

Or maybe there both scum

I didn't say they ARE scum I said I THOUGHT they were scum

[Banakai]

Out of that list I'd choose boro

[Banakai]

I have a meta with good morning and he's not acting the same (as when town).

[Banakai]

What game are you comparing it to?

Newbie 1420

[Banakai]

I mean 1410

[Banakai]

I like this reasoning. But the fluff/lurk part (558) I actually agree with

VOTE: Borophil

Althought I'd still like to see goodmorning/qwerty lynched

[Banakai]

noctan/saki would you mind voting?

[Banakai]

We REALLY do not have much time the next person to log on who hasn't already voted should vote BK

[Banakai]

I like how were expected to suddenly magically lynch me with votes out of narnia and 3 hours left in the day just because I accidentally mixed up two names

[Banakai]

Trying to meta with only 2 games with three hours in the day. Nice

[Banakai]

Beast I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to edit your posts

Anyways Scum would stay off the wagon to not seem suspicious.

And most likely, not everyone on your wagon is town, considering it is almost half of the players and there are two scum teams.

[Banakai]

What's the difference?

[Banakai]

oh

well boro that makes me feel like your so much more scum. You want to frame someone?

anyways UNVOTE: borophil

To get it over with

[Banakai]

VOTE: borophil

[Banakai]

Well I guess we didn't need him

[Banakai]

Lol he's hammered

[Banakai]

And your gonna read the entire game in two hours?

[Banakai]

My first hammer ever

Woot

[Banakai]

My first hammer ever

Woot

[Banakai]

*Does Hammer dance*

[Banakai]

So are you scum?

Sounds like it

Normally town (Or mafia) will just say good luck team

[Banakai]

Your dead already. Tell role now.

[Banakai]

[Banakai]

For some reason I knew saki was waiting to hammer

[Banakai]

LOL I SNUCK IN

[Banakai]

Karnage why no flip/ flavor/ cannibalism joke

[Banakai]

But what if Saki IS the serial killer (Or vig)

Then the mafia has to take out saki

[Banakai]

Because maybe the vig is really bad at mafia

[Banakai]

That's funny


You would have claimed instead of offering to self vote

[Banakai]

I'm the roleblocker. I roleblocked saki. This means that saki's claim is real

[Banakai]

Now if you guys are smart enough not to lynch any of us, the mafia and the serial killer will have kind of a prisoners dillema. They could shoot either the roleblocker, or the vig. The vig is the better option for them so they might both shoot saki. But if they think the other scum will shoot saki then they might shoot me but then the other one might do the same.


So basically both of us aren't nessacarily dead.


Anyways I still think qwerty/good morning are scum.

VOTE: goodmorning

[Banakai]

I'm surprised scum didn't

[Banakai]

Okay Reads:

"Conf/close to confirmed town"
Me
Saki
Bk (He would have killed me after that soft pr claim if he was scum)

Townish
Evil Regals

Null:
Noctan nights
Beast Charizard

Scumish:
Belisarius
Good morning
Qwertyuiop

[Banakai]

I actually think wisdom could likely be mafia

[Banakai]

Could have been *

[Banakai]

Trying to lynch saki when claimed vig with no counter claims and saying they were roleblocked which isn't really something scum would fake. Also gut.

[Banakai]

Well For one goodmorning is kinda like "I don't really care about what's going on" when stuff is going on

[Banakai]

Still, Why would scum pretend to be roleblocked. Also a even if the vig was killed by beli he'd be killed by the serial killer from the claim.

[Banakai]

Wait I just argued why he was town

[Banakai]

I guess he is town then if I can convince myself

[Banakai]

You have officially confused me.

Never mind ignore that. I didn't explain why beli was town I said he was scum. I said how SAKI was town, even before my claim.

So yeah that's why I think beli is scum

[Banakai]

A. That was a different setup so that's a different situation

B. Nah I think I just argued you were superman

[Banakai]

They'd probbably show up if we made some serious accusations

[Banakai]

>He was kinda talking about you and you haven't posted since awhile ago and we want to hear more from you

WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD DO

[Banakai]

I'm still going with good morning. Qwerty could just be a VI (I still have my eye on you qwerty)

[Banakai]

Explain town read pls

[Banakai]

STOP PROD DODGING WISDOM OMG NOW

[Banakai]

I MEAN GOOD MORNING

[Banakai]

Because mistake

[Banakai]

you haven't even said who it's for!

[Banakai]

Going for a new record?

[Banakai]

It seems like your not going to post the 3/3 ever

[Banakai]

I have a feeling this "Case" won't be done until tommorow

[Banakai]

And I mean Day 3 not september the 26th

[Banakai]

I agree with beli


I hereby declare that if goodmorning doesn't post his case soon or if his case is bad we should lynch him

otherwise qwerty

[Banakai]

Also if me and saki die tonight, trust BK

And that happened to me too!

The screen was all gray and off-center! it eventually stopped though

[Banakai]

I like your case... But I'm still not voting ER

VOTE: qwertyuiop

[Banakai]

I blocked you, good morning.

About the kills:
Evil regals was definitely from saki
BK201 and Saki were scum kills since they were confirmed town.(Or pretty much, at least)

something odd was that they didn't kill me. I was a conf roleblocker where as BK201 was a townslip townie.

About claims:
I didn't roleblock Beast charizard.

I'm pretty sure beli is the actual dietician (Look at him thinking saki was scum at the beginning of day 2. You can't say that came out of nowhere)

Beast charizard left a breadcrumb of the remaining power role that wasn't claimed. This was probbably a safety precaution. If the time was right to claim dietician, then he shows crumb. If he is claiming townie then he doesn't. Would be much more convincing if he did it BEFORE the claims. (even then he could have left a crumb for every PR)

I won't vote him since that would be L-1 and we can disscuss stuff if I don't

[Banakai]

And beast hammered that pretty quickly

I was going to disscuss who I should roleblock and (More importantly) who saki should shoot

[Banakai]

I think he's probbably lieing mafia.

[Banakai]

I'd be up for lynching him

[Banakai]

"Good morning what is your role"

obviously he's a vanilla townie or scum. All power roles are dead or claimed and he'd claim vanilla townie no matter what

I also think lynching beast would be our highest chance of winning at this point. He's likely either lying about both mafia being alive or about being the serial killer.

[Banakai]

None of what you did is logical for sk who doesn't want to get lynched. It is highly likely you are lieing, and Saki could have hit mafia with the vig. Also even if we do hit mafia today we can still lose. and I'd rather be beaten by 1 scum than 2 (That's just me)

[Banakai]

INTENT TO HAMMER BEASTCHARIZARD

if you have any reason for me not to, please speak now

[Banakai]

Calm down. Your not even hammered yet.

VOTE: Beast charizard
die scum die

okay now you are.

[Banakai]

wtf beast was telling the truth

in what situation would claiming benefit him.