Open 529 -- Picking Simplicity -- Game Over

[Wake1]

unvote, vote: rachmarie

nice overreaction.

lora: thanks for killing all motivation I had for this game. i'll look into this later.

See?

stfu. I have been doubting you as scum, but that doesn't clear you from sk, and the way you just handled yourself does not help that situation. if you are town please take this with a grain of salt: you are extremely egocentric and you are not that good of a player.

So, let's lynch Loranthaceae. No real Town Cop would deliberately lie about me being guilty for shits and giggles. If the real Cop is out there, stay quiet please.

^^ case in point.

I'm a damned good Town player, so I'll take what you say with a boatload of salt. Thank you very much.

Having to digest this bullshit claim followed by crappy ridicule and ignorance hasn't been much fun, either.

If you want to talk about good players, then let's got there, Don.

And don't tell me to shut the fuck up. I haven't said so to you, and so I'd appreciate the same kind of general respect.

[Wake1]

ah, I already have. Ok so first of all I am cop.

But ... I didn't check wake. I checked someone else and I got a not guilty, I don't think I should divulge the identity of said person atm. So anyway, long story short, you will all need to activate your brain back on and we need to decide on a lynch.

Actually, I don't know what the fuck to think of this right now.

Never in the 40+ games I've played or hosted has this happened to me.

If you, L, performed a reaction test, I could actually have no problem with that and would remove my vote from you.

[Wake1]

I almost fell asleep but then I remembered it would be pretty shitty if Wake flipped town so, I'm basically apologizing if my gambit was shit, but maybe we did get some useful info .. idk, can't this at this point, I'm going to go sleep now. Sorry or not. Brain back on .. ok. That is all. bbye. I'll be around in about 8 hours.

That's incredibly anti-town if you're telling the truth.

Although this is a bit hilarious. Sort of like a cold slap to bloodthirsty Scum and Town alike if you're actually the real deal.

[Wake1]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE POINT OF THAT?

Do you understand my frustration now?

I was put in an impossible situation as VT.

Although I'm not cleared in the eyes of the rest of you, from mine it was certainly aggravating.

Now I don't know whether to dump L as Scum or back L as Town. Fuck.

[Wake1]

And here I thought I was the one deliberately stirring things up.

LOL

.

[Wake1]

ah, I already have. Ok so first of all I am cop.

But ... I didn't check wake. I checked someone else and I got a not guilty, I don't think I should divulge the identity of said person atm. So anyway, long story short, you will all need to activate your brain back on and we need to decide on a lynch.

If you're really the Cop, you may as well tell us who's not guilty so we can work with that. Then the Doctor will cover you. That'd make sense.

Lynching me in light of this, with over ten days remaining, doesn't make sense.

BOY, do I want to know what L's read on me is now, since he put me through this.

[Wake1]

If it's not the Cop(?) fakeclaiming my guilt, it's the Serial Killer returning to he schtick about me being the SK. Oh, and Albert's back in my corner again; let's hope he's not Scum.

[Wake1]

Why the vote on Rach, please?

What's your read on JacobSavage? He hasn't contributed much, save for a paragraph or two and spatterings of single sentences.

[Wake1]

So, vote him.

[Wake1]

Which brings us back to the question you ignored.

Why'd you vote for Rach?

[Wake1]

I'm still unsure about Loranthaceae.

About 40%, considering no counterclaim.

[Wake1]

*Looks at 65 pages*

*Notes it's only Day 2*

*Weighs whether or not it's worth combing through whole thread again*

[Wake1]

Well then.

1) We know Mastin was stabbed by the Serial Killer, and is likely someone who knew of him in general. Skelda was shot by the Mafia.

2) L's alignment is in question. The lack of a counterclaim tips in his favor, or it could mean the real Cop wants to get more investigations in before outing.

3) Loranthaceae did lie about my innocence, and admitted so. He says he knows someone who's innocent.

4) House of cards came crashing down on Wake lynch.

5) Albert mentions that Jacob is a decent bandwagon.

6) Skull mentions to Albert that my alignment isn't certain—which is correct in the eyes of the rest—and that Albert is "SO Scum." (Reading this, I wonder if she's also uncertain about every other player, including Loranthaceae.)

[Wake1]

Oh

come on

. Evil is so

obviously

scum trying to back out of an ill-timed fakeclaim.

Seriously, just lynch them and get it over with.

Would you quote/link where ER claimed Doctor, please?

[Wake1]

A recent game just ended and I don't see Wake being scum here. It's along with the fact he used a gambit here which he didn't use there. I was leaning town on him due to that.

...

Which game was that, please? Another recent game just ended where me and Fakegod beat Town flawlessly.

(My Scumplay is way better than my Townplay)

[Wake1]

Evil did this here scummy bull:

Also wake is town for reasons being withheld at the moment

which really makes no sense as anything but groupscum fakesoftclaiming cop.

Well, that

is

weird. Hey ER, what were you doing there, please?

Also Mae, would you drop the attitude?

I'm telling you I don't want to have to deal with Wake late in the game, hate it when Wifom lives to the end, unnerving as hell

Stop whining. Seriously. I babysit my whiny little nephew at times and you sound just like him.

[Wake1]

Please do gloat and puff your ego up more.

Question dodge noted.

[Wake1]

Please do gloat and puff your ego up more.

Question dodge noted.

Not dodging. Your post was you gloating about the win. We have only played one game together besides this one. That is the one I'm referring too.

Your actions there are different than here. I thought you were town there up until your reaction that felt fake then I thought you were the NK target and overall dismissed that you could have been scum making the kill. Why I rather play doc over a JK because I can't make that mistake.

Although it could be perceived as gloating, that doesn't mean it is. However, the reason I asked was because I had mixed up the "here" and "there" in that one sentence of your post, which erroneously made me think you were saying that I was trying a gambit there that I wasn't... here. Apologies for the confusion.

[Wake1]

6) Skull mentions to Albert that my alignment isn't certain—which is correct in the eyes of the rest—and that Albert is "SO Scum." (Reading this, I wonder if she's also uncertain about every other player, including Loranthaceae.)

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. If you have a question for me, ask it.

You said you weren't certain about my alignment, so I was wondering if you felt certain/uncertain about Loranthaceae and his claim, as well as everyone else. You also mention that Albert is "SO Scum," meaning you believe he's guilty, and I'd like to know if there's anyone else currently in that category.

[Wake1]

What are everyone's reads on Titus and Albert B. Rampage?

[Wake1]

Titus, among the eleven votes for BoroPhil, which number was yours?

[Wake1]

Titus, weren't you sure HGH was Scum once?

[Wake1]

Based on wagon motion, I really liked HGH as scum at one point.

Cool. Whatever happened to your certainty?

[Wake1]

I've been having trouble making up my mind on what playstyle to stick with. The game of Mafia is simple, but the hard part is finding a style/pattern you're comfortable using... And staying with it while refining it slowly.

The two reads I did on Aeronaut and Aptil I liked (the structure was good and made the game more enjoyable). So, when I find the time, I'll get more posts like those going. Iirc Titus thought the one on Aeronaut was good. Do you think that structure was more helpful to Town? It helps me collect my thoughts better.

[Wake1]

For pressure, I'll VOTE: Albert B. Rampage.

He did say BP wasn't the right lynch, strongly implied I was Town, and hasn't said much lately. Scummy, isn't it? OR, too easy. It feels too easy with this wagon, but I don't think I can lead the majority to vote for those on my gut radar, like Titus or Rainbowdash. I guess we'll find out later on. Mafia is also a game of trying to lead the blind.

[Wake1]

I'll catch you later, Miss.

Got back-to-back shifts coming up.

[Wake1]

Call me curious,Titus and Rainbow.

VOTE: Unvote

You make it seem so simple, Rainbow...

...why?

[Wake1]

It's a gut feeling, Titus. Does that bother you, Miss?

[Wake1]

If you would quote my exact words where I said I'd explain it, that'd be helpful.

Right now I'm not inclined to spill my guts over the whys and whats of my gut feeling. Right now I suspect you, Titus, based on what my gut says, and we have time, so, we have time.

Well then, Mrs. Your husband's a lucky man. Or is he? /joking

[Wake1]

I'll catch you later, Miss.

Got back-to-back shifts coming up.

Implication was that you'd explain when you got back.

I don't really care what your reason is. I just want to make sure your gut read doesn't change based on convience. Your gut clearly sucks given you suspect me for no articulable reason.

I think you misunderstand, so let's update. My gut tells me you're Scum, but I'm not about explain the whys and whats of it. Gut feelings are often tough to explain in words because they're feelings. As for my work, it's volatile, and prone to change in an instant. I can play Mafia during my shift assuming my client is napping or asleep.

Your defensiveness... and affinity for grasping at threads... further cements my suspicion that you're Scum. And I'm only poking at you here and there as of now..

[Wake1]

Okay so wake, can you try and it put into words your gut reason as perosnally I'm not really seeing this defensivieness?

...

Interesting.

In time I will do so. Now is not a good time, because I am tired and I only have access to an inespensive trac-phone at the moment.

Since you're likely less constrained, are you willing to answer a question of mine?

Why have you barely contributed to this game... yet seem so apt at responding at certain moments?

[Wake1]

We've got ten days left and little credible reason to vote ABR.

Majority consensus isn't always wisdom.

[Wake1]

When we've used up most of the precious time given us, and have more gnerally-agreed-upon reasons for having the lynch... sure.

Your tight-lipped responses in this page don't settle my stomach much, either.

[Wake1]

Albert, if our places were swapped, and you were looking at a claimed VT at L-1...

...what would you do?

[Wake1]

Wrong answer.

VTs, like me, are expendable cannon fodder.fakeclaiming VT can be done by absolutely anyone, and no one is psychic.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

That's a lynch.

Please give me a pool of 3-5 players you think are Scum if you flip VT while there's time. I will go after them.

[Wake1]

His latest post about Jacob. It upset my gut moreso than Titus and Sven. As you know, gut feeling plays a massive part in this game.

And where were you? I haven't seen you around here much.

[Wake1]

Albert, if you're online, please hurry and give us a pool/whatever other thoughts you think will carry us into Day 3.

Nobody Special, would you please give ABR a little time to talk?

[Wake1]

Apparently, Aptil, you don't listen.

Either it's because you're not an apt person in general, or I'll have to fight you tooth and nail Day 3 because you're opportunistic Scum.

[Wake1]

I'm willing to be lynched, Aptil, because I'm a VT. However, that doesn't mean I'll just jump off a cliff right away. Remember, my gambit to acclaim semi-Innocent mode is meant to be an insurance policy in order to protect Town PRs from being lynched. If a majority thinks it's time, so be it. Also, Mafia Goon would never, EVER do what I've done, so if the SK dies before me you can bank on my innocence.

Jmo, whenever someone at L-1 claims VT, you lynch that person. If it claims a Power Role, you don't just yet. I expected ABR to say that he'd lynch me. You only go ou t of your way to diffuse a person's lynch if he/she claims PR at L-1.

And where the hell is ABR?

Go ahead and try, Sven. Either your bad Town or Scum for ignoring why I voted ABR.

[Wake1]

I agree with Aptil. How do you go from ABR is town and wanting us to use the time to possibly hammering? I say possibly because I am not going back to count.

Nowhere, Titus, did I say or argue that ABR

is

Town.

If you were on the ABR wagon, you've got little reason to complain other than time, because you got what you wanted. That goes for you, too.

I did hammer him, and it's because his posts lighted up my Scumdar. If you don't like that, tough granola bars.

[Wake1]

All the reasons for your change were present before your flip. it seems like a fig leaf.

I'm onto your game, Scum. You've been incredibly opportunistic and shifty this game.

I don't know what you mean by figleaf, but I do know I never flipped.

Sven, now I'm certain you're Scum. You pranced onto this wagon and put him at L-1 without barely any reason, and now you're going to turn a blind eye about your actions...

...and try to poke the lion because he broke the neck of the target you were attacking. Whether ABR flips Town or Scum, you just try it.

[Wake1]

Hardly, ABR.

Assuming you flip VT, I will go after Jacob.

If not, then I'm unsure.

[Wake1]

I enjoyed Maenara's performance.

[Wake1]

Yeah, I didn't get why Don just gave up like that, considering how far he got.

I'd say you shouldn't be so mean, but then again you mentioned doing that on purpose to get people mad.

[Wake1]

Very interesting. I really liked watching you maneuver through the game. Maybe I should try incorporating a little bit of abrasiveness into my gameplay...

Savage has a tendency to lurk and not really do anything.

[Wake1]

Maenara, would you want to be a Hydra with me sometime?

[Wake1]

Oh gods no, we'd tear each other's head off.

I doubt it. When we're both seperate VTs, sure, but heads on the same slot? Not really.

[Wake1]

This game is definitely a lesson for Scum to keep lurkers alive, and for Town to PL lurkers, in my opinion.

[Wake1]

gg scum. mae, you were so cooperative with me at first. I really thought you were town.

I think I said this in the dead qt: I didn't "give up". I went all in. the self vote was in hopes that "townmae" would rescind his vote. I gambled and lost. I could have not self voted, but it didn't look like there were too many other ways to prevent my lynch if I kept fighting like hell.

I don't particularly understand, but then again I wasn't in the position you were in, or knew of all the factors you personally knew.

Do you think a better approach could have been to hold back and play somewhat more defensively, or maybe focus on one/two other players with relatively-grounded Scum cases?

[Wake1]

You're already abrasive.

True, and so are you.

[Wake1]

Anyways, one of the things I do remember enough to regret is quickhammering ABR. Should have waited.

[Wake1]

I think it was illegal only if you didn't read your PM.

Not sure about reading and then forgetting...

[Wake1]

That

is

pretty funny, ha!