Open 550: Duck, Duck, Goose!

[kushm4sta]

hi dessew remember me

[kushm4sta]

hi dessew remember me

Of course yes, I do.

i wont suck as bad this time

[kushm4sta]

aegor remember me ?

[kushm4sta]

never played a game like this before. should i shoot someone tonight

[kushm4sta]

VOTE: kush

A year on the site, you should have an understanding of PGO.

dig deeper.
played a few normal games. stopped playing for like a year. just came back.

I SAID I NEVER PLAYED A GAME LIKE THIS BEFORE

. I don't have a lot of content, did you miss that part? Because something I already said directly counters this argument.

VOTE: kush

A year on the site, you should have an understanding of PGO.

And if they got a town role PM it is explains it.

VOTE: Kush

I didn't read the pm that closely and i didn't read the pm at all. I saw "1 shot paranoid gun owner" and I thought it was one of those games where everyone has a shot like a mexican standoff type dealie.

[kushm4sta]

ebwop "didn't read the op at all

[kushm4sta]

Missed a page of posts:

You realize we are leaving the RVS part of the game so your jokes are no longer needed.

I liked this post, but not the ones that followed:

Of course you like your scum partner better than you like me.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

I refuse to vote anyone else today.

You got scum pegged down on page three. Congrats, that deserves a prize in my eyes. But really, this just seems completely non-serious.

The basis of everything in this post is that scum s aren't serious?
Or are you merely pointing out his hypocrisy?

[kushm4sta]

nah man i dont read ops. it's like my thing.

[kushm4sta]

The latter. That post of Mist's is a bit wishy-washy. What I mean is that kush's post was content. Read kush's ISO in maybe Mini 1335. Maybe the number isn't correct, it was modded by Gaiden, so you can be sure.

DESSEW HOLD UP BRO, I think you mean the former.

[kushm4sta]

that really hurts my feelings

[kushm4sta]

I dont think scum's really tell lie's like that that don't get them anything.

[kushm4sta]

wait waht about pokemon online

[kushm4sta]

Because I don't pressure vote. I shouldn't need to vote someone for them to get in line.

I actually really like this. I have very seldom seen pressure votes actually get someone to shape up. More often it just leads to angry railroading of inactive players.

So you like it as in you think mist leans townie?

[kushm4sta]

i think ill read this tonight

[kushm4sta]

i think ill read this tonight

Get hyped for this because it's going to awesome.

[kushm4sta]

Is our meta discussion over? Please say yes.

Re-read the thread, not that there is much there. NM's 51 has an inappropriate level of conviction at this stage in the game, which he then bizarrely tells us to ignore in 52. MM's resultant voteparking has been commented upon. NM's defense of Marquis in 110 is hella sketch, especially given Marquis' bad posting. This defense is handwaved by means of "meta," which is always a weak defense.

Mod: Please prod (read:replace) kush.

prod dodge

[kushm4sta]

sorry guys. When someone has a bad expectation of me for some reason I just get a desire to fulfill that expectation to spite them.
I will read the game now starting page 5 where I left off. Not surprised to see this recent focus on mist tho, since his first post looked super scummy.

[kushm4sta]

^so does that count as meaningful enough lol

[kushm4sta]

does that satisfy activity requirements or not?

[kushm4sta]

my interactions with the host pretty much confirm me town amirite?

[kushm4sta]

Gonna assume monkey is town and let me just say, really not a fan of how you started this game. You dominated discussion in a way that makes the game really hard to get into. im stuck at page 5 still lolol. the boredom of reading your posts, monkey, and the posts about yoru posts is just too much to bare.

[kushm4sta]

because he's attracting attention to himself. does he have a history of doing that as scum?

[kushm4sta]

Gonna assume monkey is town

Why?

Monkey and Bubba giving me major partner vibes

how often are you d1 partner vibes right?

[kushm4sta]

lemme guess. never?

[kushm4sta]

since when do i have suspicions of aegor? those questions are shitty.

[kushm4sta]

because he's attracting attention to himself. does he have a history of doing that as scum?

[kushm4sta]

pasch why you ask questions that make literally no sense?

i think aegor is really town. He is giving a lot of reads and shit. Plus his stubbornness is totally a towntrait for him.

So mist, u scummy.
pasch, u scummy.
those dudes are scummy.

[kushm4sta]

dessew's serious mode try hard is freaking me out a little

[kushm4sta]

It's so hard to tell you nubs apart with your nondescript names.

[kushm4sta]

Having read the game, I recant my reads.

[kushm4sta]

Haha good thing I used nubs cause I was gonna say a lot worse.
That rule you have is actually pretty unfortunate because name calling is a big part of my scum game.
Anyway it wasn't name calling. It was an objective description of my surroundings.
Ehem...newer players,
Dw I will help you out.
Maxius and bubba are scum. Game solved u welcome.

[kushm4sta]

Yes I coach.

[kushm4sta]

BUBBA
From your quote I take it to mean your share his early game scumteam theory. Do you still?

You realize we are leaving the RVS part of the game so your jokes are no longer needed.

Marquis/Kush/Not_Mafia scum team. I found the final person bubba.

Of course you like your scum partner better than you like me.

I wouldn't ever use the new defense.

These quotes are what I like about him. He's had the same ideas I've had.

MAXIUS
that decision to vote aegor looks crazy! U got done explainin to do

[kushm4sta]

my interactions with the host pretty much confirm me town amirite?

No, you are terribly, terribly wrong.

As town I'm wrong. As scum I'm lying.
Therefore you just called me town. Therefore you scum slipped.

[kushm4sta]

292 is awful. I didn't realize that saying im "wrong" was a response to the word "amirite" specifically.

bubba please answer my question about agreeing with those monkey quotes. Did you agree with his early reads based on nothing?

[kushm4sta]

ok bubba nvm you can live

[kushm4sta]

Haha good thing I used nubs cause

I was gonna say a lot worse.

That rule you have is actually pretty unfortunate because name calling is a big part of my scum game.

Also everyone should be voting kush for this. He consciously said less because he knows name calling is a big part of his scum game.

VOTE: kush

As scum, why would i tell you about it the sentence after i say that? I am trying to be funny. It's not reassuring me about you that you are not receptive to my humor.

ok bubba nvm you can live

What? What was the case? How is it invalid? (?)
Also, is your cursing really your scummeta? And why would you say such?

just forget about it. I have to do isos before my opinion is worth anything.

[kushm4sta]

ok dessew, I don't want blowing you off to become another shovel for the kush tunnel. although I would enjoy blowing you off but I guess I can't :'(
I found those very weird quotes to agree with. But now bubba showed me that he had actually expressed that opinion previously. It was a matter of me not reading close enough.
And for that I am truly remorseful.
Love,
Kush

[kushm4sta]

how is that an attempt to meta clear myself??

[kushm4sta]

im still figuring stuff out and i am changing my mind. that is all natural townie

[kushm4sta]

may i just say, qed

[kushm4sta]

he's attacking me for changing my mind of stuff.
I said why i changed my mind.
I said i was still figuring stuff out.
What else do you expect from an innocent townie?

[kushm4sta]

ii never said i wasn't very good. .

[kushm4sta]

not a whole pile to add to that, because aegor

isn't doing anything

he hasn't given any scum-reads. The vote on kush is

policy

and his justification for the pl has gotten bad in the bottom of #251.
and #228?. He is not calling kush scum, asking that question is very disingenuous .

Some of the questions he asked looked like they could lead somewhere, but you're absolutely right about the Kush vote. I don't like that at all. And he didn't answer my questions either.

@Aegor: What's the deal? Is this a policy vote? We are NOT policy lynching anyone. That's a stupid idea and robs us of useful information.

Glad to join you guys, this should be fun!

Sup, Dr. P!

he's attacking me for changing my mind of stuff.
I said why i changed my mind.
I said i was still figuring stuff out.
What else do you expect from an innocent townie?

Who is "he"? And have you figured stuff out yet? Do you seriously have no opinions at all? That sounds like scum pretty hard, since a person would naturally have guesses and ideas when they don't know. Scum are the only ones who have to make stuff up when they don't believe in them. Those ideas aren't genuine and don't come naturally. If you didn't know people's alignments, you should have some ideas by now.

Who does this? Scum who already know everyone's alignment.

Exactly.

Honestly I dont even remember who he is. One of the many people who are attacking me.
I have had a lot of opinions this game. It's just I relook at stuff and it's like ehhh maybe not. And right now I'm in a place where I need to put into some work to figure shit out, since midgame I wasn't very active and I dont have a good feel for people in this game.

I really don't feel like looking at filters now but the first one I'm going to look at is Maxous' I think. Maxous is seeming a little too right to me. Oh yeah I wanted to check if he was right about aegor not actually doing anything.
Those two things are on my to do list.

But let me formally martyr right now. If you want to lynch me d1 that's cool. At least it's before I put any work in. Plus I think it's meta-beneficial, making it harder for you to get lynched early game.

Alternatively, you could wait for me to get to doing stuff. The choice is yours really.

[kushm4sta]

also you should realize that i'm WAY TOO SCUMMY TO BE SCUM. Liek i'm so scummy that I do a 360 and I'm back to being townie again. And if you look at it that way, im the towniest guy in the game.

[kushm4sta]

Now Aegor, you know full well that is ridiculous.

I understand the feeling completely but that is in no way how you should act.

Everyone has those players that just piss them off from the start of the game and you just want them dead for a little piece and quiet.

Also, if Kush flips town I am hunting you down. There is no way this is a buss but based on that post you just made one of you is scum

. Fortunately for you I believe it to be him since he is "too scummy". He feels like scum who gave up and then realized it was stupid to give up and are trying to somehow save themselves.

wat
super contradiction here.

You understand how he feels.
You understand that he wants to plynch me and my alignment isn't a factor.
Yet you want to lynch him if i flip town.
THAT MAKES NO SENSE SIR>
Kindly explain this bullshit.

[kushm4sta]

I think aegor is actually really town for that last quote.
How he says "either kush is out or I am." I don't see scum taking a stance like that. He is basically threatening leaving the game, forcing a replacement or modkill. It's generally considered bad form for scum to use this kind of stuff to help themselves. Aegor doesn't seem like he likes to play dirty.

[kushm4sta]

kush uses troll on aegor.
it's super effective.

In all seriousness though, I have trolled but I am providing content too. If you think I'm scum that's fine but aegor you are acting like a child right now. Grow up and play the game.

[kushm4sta]

look here is all my content.
it's actually a lot. The problem is when you troll, all people remember is the trolling and they forget the other stuff. I can't help trolling it's just in my nature and aegor can confirm I do it as town.

Spoiler:

VOTE: kush

A year on the site, you should have an understanding of PGO.

dig deeper.
played a few normal games. stopped playing for like a year. just came back.

I SAID I NEVER PLAYED A GAME LIKE THIS BEFORE

. I don't have a lot of content, did you miss that part? Because something I already said directly counters this argument.

VOTE: kush

A year on the site, you should have an understanding of PGO.

And if they got a town role PM it is explains it.

VOTE: Kush

I didn't read the pm that closely and i didn't read the pm at all. I saw "1 shot paranoid gun owner" and I thought it was one of those games where everyone has a shot like a mexican standoff type dealie.

Missed a page of posts:

You realize we are leaving the RVS part of the game so your jokes are no longer needed.

I liked this post, but not the ones that followed:

Of course you like your scum partner better than you like me.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

I refuse to vote anyone else today.

You got scum pegged down on page three. Congrats, that deserves a prize in my eyes. But really, this just seems completely non-serious.

The basis of everything in this post is that scum s aren't serious?
Or are you merely pointing out his hypocrisy?

I dont think scum's really tell lie's like that that don't get them anything.

Because I don't pressure vote. I shouldn't need to vote someone for them to get in line.

I actually really like this. I have very seldom seen pressure votes actually get someone to shape up. More often it just leads to angry railroading of inactive players.

So you like it as in you think mist leans townie?

sorry guys. When someone has a bad expectation of me for some reason I just get a desire to fulfill that expectation to spite them.
I will read the game now starting page 5 where I left off. Not surprised to see this recent focus on mist tho, since his first post looked super scummy.

because he's attracting attention to himself. does he have a history of doing that as scum?

Gonna assume monkey is town

Why?

Monkey and Bubba giving me major partner vibes

how often are you d1 partner vibes right?

since when do i have suspicions of aegor? those questions are shitty.

pasch why you ask questions that make literally no sense?

i think aegor is really town. He is giving a lot of reads and shit. Plus his stubbornness is totally a towntrait for him.

So mist, u scummy.
pasch, u scummy.
those dudes are scummy.

dessew's serious mode try hard is freaking me out a little

BUBBA
From your quote I take it to mean your share his early game scumteam theory. Do you still?

You realize we are leaving the RVS part of the game so your jokes are no longer needed.

Marquis/Kush/Not_Mafia scum team. I found the final person bubba.

Of course you like your scum partner better than you like me.

I wouldn't ever use the new defense.

These quotes are what I like about him. He's had the same ideas I've had.

MAXIUS
that decision to vote aegor looks crazy! U got done explainin to do

my interactions with the host pretty much confirm me town amirite?

No, you are terribly, terribly wrong.

As town I'm wrong. As scum I'm lying.
Therefore you just called me town. Therefore you scum slipped.

292 is awful. I didn't realize that saying im "wrong" was a response to the word "amirite" specifically.

bubba please answer my question about agreeing with those monkey quotes. Did you agree with his early reads based on nothing?

Haha good thing I used nubs cause

I was gonna say a lot worse.

That rule you have is actually pretty unfortunate because name calling is a big part of my scum game.

Also everyone should be voting kush for this. He consciously said less because he knows name calling is a big part of his scum game.

VOTE: kush

As scum, why would i tell you about it the sentence after i say that? I am trying to be funny. It's not reassuring me about you that you are not receptive to my humor.

ok bubba nvm you can live

What? What was the case? How is it invalid? (?)
Also, is your cursing really your scummeta? And why would you say such?

just forget about it. I have to do isos before my opinion is worth anything.

ok dessew, I don't want blowing you off to become another shovel for the kush tunnel. although I would enjoy blowing you off but I guess I can't :'(
I found those very weird quotes to agree with. But now bubba showed me that he had actually expressed that opinion previously. It was a matter of me not reading close enough.
And for that I am truly remorseful.
Love,
Kush

how is that an attempt to meta clear myself??

im still figuring stuff out and i am changing my mind. that is all natural townie

he's attacking me for changing my mind of stuff.
I said why i changed my mind.
I said i was still figuring stuff out.
What else do you expect from an innocent townie?

Now Aegor, you know full well that is ridiculous.

I understand the feeling completely but that is in no way how you should act.

Everyone has those players that just piss them off from the start of the game and you just want them dead for a little piece and quiet.

Also, if Kush flips town I am hunting you down. There is no way this is a buss but based on that post you just made one of you is scum

. Fortunately for you I believe it to be him since he is "too scummy". He feels like scum who gave up and then realized it was stupid to give up and are trying to somehow save themselves.

wat
super contradiction here.

You understand how he feels.
You understand that he wants to plynch me and my alignment isn't a factor.
Yet you want to lynch him if i flip town.
THAT MAKES NO SENSE SIR>
Kindly explain this bullshit.

I think aegor is actually really town for that last quote.
How he says "either kush is out or I am." I don't see scum taking a stance like that. He is basically threatening leaving the game, forcing a replacement or modkill. It's generally considered bad form for scum to use this kind of stuff to help themselves. Aegor doesn't seem like he likes to play dirty.

BTW the second to last quote about MM, i still want a response because he is not making townie sense there.

[kushm4sta]

maxous is probably scum trying to gain towncred from townreading me. And there's no risk because he thinks im gonna get lynched despite his read on me.

Aegor, if you agree not to plynch me ill agree to TRY to not troll you anymore.

[kushm4sta]

It's just when one person is right and no one else is, that person is often scum. Plus I have shown you the scum motivation in town reading me in my last post.
Max
What do you think of mm response to aegor? (Second to last post in my spoilered collection of content.)
He understands the desire to plynch me, but he wants to lynch aegor if in town. That don't make sense.

[kushm4sta]

Also do you see why I think AtE leans town for aegor?

[kushm4sta]

i think for a lot of players superficial scumminess is a towntell. that is based on meta and personality.

[kushm4sta]

Ok I just read aegor and my suspicions of maxous have diminished.
I am developing a scum read on aegor. I thought he wouldn't ate as scum but honestly I don't know him well enough to make that assumption. I think he could be using it as a crutch.

His stance on me makes no sense. I actually have 10 times the content of him. Yet he wants wants to lynch me for lack of content in previous games. Those are his words.

His other scumhunting is very scummy. It is comprised of nit picking and summarizing filters in a vaguely accusatory tone.
VOTE: aegor

To the people currently voting me: you better justify that vote. I am a very serious player, and now that I have invested more time into the game I will not be your low hanging fruit.

Standby for a quote of aegors scummy scumhunting.

[kushm4sta]

Is our meta discussion over? Please say yes.

Re-read the thread, not that there is much there. NM's 51 has an inappropriate level of conviction at this stage in the game, which he then bizarrely tells us to ignore in 52. MM's resultant voteparking has been commented upon. NM's defense of Marquis in 110 is hella sketch, especially given Marquis' bad posting. This defense is handwaved by means of "meta," which is always a weak defense.

Mod: Please prod (read:replace) kush.

That's what I mean by nitpicking and accusatory summary.

[kushm4sta]

So mm. If you can understand that from a town perspective, why would you want to lynch aegor for it (you said you would want to lynch aegor if I flipped town.)

[kushm4sta]

Well I made him rage quit. Pretty funny. What would be even funnier is if I got lynched anyway.
UNVOTE:

[kushm4sta]

you not doing anything is a real reason

[kushm4sta]

dessew why would you say something like that without saying why

[kushm4sta]

you not doing anything is a real reason[/quote
It's also full of shit.

I don't smoke. Dritan was prodded "on a request". Let's say he's scum: TCold would've prodded him earlier as he didn't post in this game at all and his buddies would have made a comment on it, at least.

[kushm4sta]

I don't smoke. Dritan was prodded "on a request". Let's say he's scum: TCold would've prodded him earlier as he didn't post in this game at all and his buddies would have made a comment on it, at least.

So you think his scumbuddies would have requested a prod.

[kushm4sta]

they would have said "fuck he's afk"
not
"mod please prod him"

[kushm4sta]

mm i hate all your ideas.

[kushm4sta]

prod dodge

[kushm4sta]

WHAAA DONT LYNCH ME GUIZ. SCUM WANT TO LYNCH ME.

[kushm4sta]

kind of okay getting lynched actually because im in a lot of games right now plus im busy..

[kushm4sta]

/martyr.
would also be cool with living though, if you want to let me live just because that martyr was so fucking townie.
i promise ill do stuff later, etc.
also lolz that that kid left and im getting lynched anyway. that is some poetic justice.

[kushm4sta]

im town lolol. well done you need a different set of skills to read me sometimes and you failed to have them.