Open 561: Farmer's Market (Game Over)

[Aronis]

Hey guys!

VOTE: hayatoBL

Why do you want scum to be able to kill?

[Aronis]

@Aronis

Instead of making it compulsory for everyone to give fruits, why not make it optional.

That way we have something way better than two no-night kills:

Information

.

FYI, Information isn't helpful when everyone is dead.

[Aronis]

@Aronis

Instead of making it compulsory for everyone to give fruits, why not make it optional.

That way we have something way better than two no-night kills:

Information

.

FYI, Information isn't helpful when everyone is dead.

Like I just don't understand your point at all. It's like you're intentionally removing our [maybe not your] advantage. Why would you do that?

[Aronis]

About your plan, not quite. Any two where one gave fruit to the other CAN be scum together because the first kills and claims giving fruit to the second.

So yeah, I'd say it should be optional if we lynch mafia today but not otherwise.

About my vote, I distrust everyone on your wagon. Votes for something that is obviously dependent on playstyle instead of alignment is horrible for town, and bulge is pushing you the most suspiciously.

At this point, unless someone suggests a gamebreaking strategy, I see no reason to stray from forcing a No Kill. Maybe the plan would catch a scum, but it could take a while to find him, plus things could get really crazy with multiple fruit. I'm just not up for taking a gamble like that at this point.

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

[Aronis]

This is getting to be really obnoxious. Can we just stick to the unfailing fruit plan?

[Aronis]

Welcome Bins...

This is getting to be really obnoxious. Can we just stick to the unfailing fruit plan?

I'm somewhat confused.

You voted me for promoting a "bad" plan.

I insisted on the "bad" plan.

You unvoted me.

But you still think my plan is "bad".

Why unvote me if I am still promoting this "bad" plan.

or why vote me in the first place if you thought promoting a "bad" plan isn't scummy.

While I wish being an idiot and being scum were the same thing, unfortunately they are not and therefore I can no longer vote you with good intentions at this time.

[Aronis]

If you want to be playing the game where we find scum and lynch them, i've found scum with bulge, help me lynch him?

Why are you so certain Bulge is scum?

[Aronis]

In the other one, town lost pretty badly (lynched one mafia day 1 and still lost). IIRC, they didn't fruit until night 3, and when they did, it was a shitstorm (idek if it was random/in an order). Xay (the winning scum) managed to use a "I fruited the guy that died." excuse and won. Town played terrible.

This is exactly why we need to stick to the no kill for two nights plan.

Not ready to jump on the Siv wagon yet. It's just too early, but yeah he needs to lay off. His tunneling and attacking everyone who went after Hayato is insane, like there's only two scum anyway. Someone there has to be town at least.

[Aronis]

YES!

[Aronis]

VOTE: Siveure

I see no reason to keep you alive if you won't cooperate. We'd just end up lynching you anyways.

[Aronis]

UNVOTE:

[Aronis]

At this point, I cannot lynch Siv and expect him to flip scum. It's just too easy.

So, I shall. . .

VOTE: hayato

Why did you suddenly support the Siv wagon?

[Aronis]

So two people replacing out. 3 recent replacements. A week long v/la.

Lovely

My thoughts exactly.

[Aronis]

I'm still not lynching Siv.

It

could

be beneficial to pick which nights to give fruit on, idk.

I think I still want to kill hayato.

[Aronis]

I stopped caring about the game ages ago.

So things stalling even more actually IS lovely

Then will you just sheep me till one of us dies?

[Aronis]

Well... I don't really have confidence in my own ability to find scum...

But your play reminds me quite a bit of some of my play.

No.

I'm actually right alot more then people think. My problem isn't scumhunting, it's getting people to listen.

[Aronis]

Just saw vote count, will

Vote: Siv

per my earlier post. HE IS NOW AT L-1.

This isn't a great post, to say the least. So I'll:

VOTE: mathbandit

[And just pretend like you've been sheeping me]

[Aronis]

VOTE: Hayato

[Aronis]

@Aronis, sorry. That deserves explaination. Explain your vote.

He's mafia. So we lynch him.

[Aronis]

Still here. Gonna catch up tonight.

[Aronis]

VOTE: mathbandit

This day needs to end right fucking now and I'm not lynching neil since the wagon on him is bullshit.

Also, the night strategy should absolutely be giving fruit to the person below you on the list (or on top if you're the last one). We need the information now, not later in the game, so our best strategy is indeed to get it over with on N1 and N2 and play the rest of the game mountainous but with extra information.

I will personally lead the wagon on everyone who claims to not have followed the strategy.

Also, I've got my eye on Siveure. When I started reading the thread, I had him as solidly town, until he posted this. Asking for confirmation about something that is in the scum role PM right at the front of the thread is scum behavior.

Ice is prob town. Can see the reasoning behind the Siv logic, but nobody else seemed to know, so not that indicative, imo.

Sorry, really tought time with work right now.

Ice's entry post seems fine.
No one has yet to make an actual good case on Matt.
I don't like the Neil wagon.

Maybe you have, but who's your scumreads, etc? Giving opinions on others votes is fine, but what are you thinking?

I mean....there's no deadline in the game, he places a 3rd vote on someone he gives no reason for suspecting, and avoids putting a 2nd vote (ie same as math att) on his voiced suspect (Siv) who would most assuredly regain votes that had dropped off his wagon: me, ~fish, ~bins, ~The Bulge.

Little activity is bad for town. This game has all but stalled. We need it to get going, otherwise scum can just lurk to victory.

Also, Siv is a suspect, but not high on my suspect list. I still read him as town, except for that one post that is scummy as fuck.

That post isn't great, but I just can't see it being super scummy. Ending the day without activity just allows scum to continue to lurk, etc.

[Aronis]

Caught up!

Don: I'm getting fairly good vibes from him, prob town.

Fitz: He's doing enough to be considered a light town read, nothing more.

Siv: Some of his posts weren't the greatest, but I liked the math exchange. Really think he's town at this point.

Former: Pretty much just null.

Math: Superconfscum

Bins: Prob the second scum, not liking her posts. Doesn't seem like she wants to take a stance on stuff.

Ice: Maaaybe town. Some stuff of his seemed town.

[Aronis]

So people need to get off of that wagon. Come vote math with me!

VOTE: mathbandit

Bulge is prob town. Not sure about neil.

What do you dislike about my reads?

[Aronis]

What about myself, neil, and TSO-slot?

You town-read my top two scum reads (siv and don) and I don't like that but what can I do.

And about the Bins read... did you not read the last couple pages? She proposed a new plan. I that's not taking a stance, idk what is.

I'll try to get a more detailed reads list later, but you guys are getting ready to lynch Siv and I wanted to post something before day end at least.

[Aronis]

Will catch up tonight.

[Aronis]

OMG. I am so sorry guys. I didnt get the message that night had started and forgot all about this, so I didnt send fruit. If you need to lynch me that's fine. I wish I had paid better attention. Sorry guys.

[Aronis]

I think so.

[Aronis]

Wait. Actually I didn't.

[Aronis]

I don't have any messages about it at least.

[Aronis]

So who was supposed to send me fruit?

[Aronis]

When I flip town, Ice is scum.

[Aronis]

Why vote me?

[Aronis]

Oh wait. We'We're supposed to mislynch. Sorry.

[Aronis]

Ice is obvscum.

[Aronis]

I am obvtown

[Aronis]

Ppl should lynch scum.

[Aronis]

Or not.

[Aronis]

Hmmm.

[Aronis]

Wow. Mislynch #2.

[Aronis]

#3 will follow.

[Aronis]

Then vote him?

[Aronis]

Oh wait. I forgot again.

[Aronis]

We're mislynching me!

[Aronis]

Nobody cares Xay.

[Aronis]

We're trying to lose.

[Aronis]

What if I said I was a jester?

[Aronis]

They wouldnt believe me.

[Aronis]

Im going to die.

[Aronis]

Bc you ignore obvscum.

[Aronis]

Isnt this fun?

[Aronis]

Yknow, mislynching?

[Aronis]

Says Xay, the wise mislyncher.

[Aronis]

Fishy guy, did I ask for your opinion?

[Aronis]

I didnt think so.

[Aronis]

Nobody cares Bins.

[Aronis]

Just mislynch. Mislynch. Mislynch.

[Aronis]

arnois pls stop or i'll just drop the hammer thanks

Put me out of my misery.

[Aronis]

Don't care, I've seen all I need to from you to know if I ever see you in a game again I'll pl your ass so fast you'll have flashbacks of your first time.

You and ABR would be best of friends.

[Aronis]

Choose wisely.

[Aronis]

Dont mess up like I did.

[Aronis]

Be catious.

[Aronis]

But not too much.

[Aronis]

The insane asylum...

[Aronis]

A better fit for me?

[Aronis]

Don't care, I've seen all I need to from you to know if I ever see you in a game again I'll pl your ass so fast you'll have flashbacks of your first time.

wha

The illusions of a dreamer.

[Aronis]

Don't forget to do the one thing that we all agreed upon doing, and stayed that those who failed to send fruit would be lynched without question.

Ice not die bc?

[Aronis]

Mislynch. Mislynch. Mislynch.

[Aronis]

what the hell is going on

I dont know.

[Aronis]

Do you?

[Aronis]

Alas my time comes.

[Aronis]

Ice isn't dying today because he didn't admit to forgetting to send fruit. You did, and then claimed you didn't get any though, weird.

Why lynch honesty? Instead of liars? Oh wait. I forgot again.

Mislynch. Mislynch. Mislynch.

[Aronis]

If you are town Aronis, then shut up. Your job as town is to find scum. Sometimes you die in pursuit of that goal. Die with honor and dignity, not like the snivelling twat you are being.

The dead have no honor. They have nothing, but nothing.

[Aronis]

If only they had listened.

[Aronis]

To the cries from the east.

[Aronis]

And the wind in the west.

[Aronis]

With the nymphs from the north.

[Aronis]

How do we determine who is a liar and who is a truth teller? We have no way of knowing, so you die today and if you are town die happy knowing we'll lynch scum tomorrow. We have a number of mislynches available to us, stop acting like your death means the end of the game. We get information at worst from your lynch and scum death at best.

Its not too late to change.

[Aronis]

Are you really done?

Serpents from the south...

[Aronis]

As I cry out.

[Aronis]

My final breath.

[Aronis]

Has been.

[Aronis]

THE PLAN IS TO NOT SEND FRUIT.

[Aronis]

Taken...........

VOTE: Aronis

[Aronis]

Ding

[Aronis]

Dong.

[Aronis]

Scream

[Aronis]

Kong

[Aronis]

Bring

[Aronis]

Pong

[Aronis]

THREE BLIND MICE!

[Aronis]

Yes I know.

[Aronis]

Keep on

[Aronis]

Drowning it out.

[Aronis]

Long live

[Aronis]

Sir my fruit is dry.

[Aronis]

FINAL

Correction: When
Correction acknowledged.

WHEN ARONIS FLIPS TOWN

...
DO NOT PASS. LYNCH ICE TOMORROW.

[Aronis]

Die fishy die.

[Aronis]

So Aronis is scum indeed. Spamming the thread and planting a wrong plan to screw the town over. Myself and Fish are here to help repost the plan if necessary.

Aronis - why'd you kill Bulge?

Well I actually didnt really care. So you ended up sending it in for us. Dont you remember?

[Aronis]

You obviously have no idea who I am Aro. I don't die unless you kill me any night.

You die when I want you to. But neil said to let you live.

[Aronis]

I ain't even mad if we mislynch.-

But my dear Bins, you'll be down two nightkills without me. However will you manage?

[Aronis]

So I don't die when you want me to, gotcha.

Well you got a liat, that you painted black, so we wont be playing anymore. So if I kill you. Well you wouldnt come back again. And thatd be horrid.

[Aronis]

What you mean how will we manage by dropping your dead weight? How will we manage without you to botch the plan again? How will we manage with more mislynches at our disposal?

We'll be fine, just close your eyes and pretend you're going to sleep.

HELP ME!

[Aronis]

I ain't even mad if we mislynch.-

You do realize at this point, that's not an option? If Aronis is town, he'll be modkilled for spamming and playing against his win condition. Especially after the hammer vote. He is definitely scum, there's no doubt about it.

P.Edit: Nice try implementing me Aronis. It's definitely believable. We're lynching me promptly tomorrow.

Isnt my alignment really obv? Like I was gonna die anyways. Just wanted a few fireworks before I did.

And you should think about who gets towncred from this, bc I really dont want him to win.

[Aronis]

Bah who am I even asking.

Neil, do you have any problems passing?

Nope, not a problem. You want me to pass it to you since it was originally you passing it to me?

Actually... let me pass it to someone that can confirm it, but don't make me tell you who. That way scum can't frame me by killing whoever I'm passing to.

Good idea.

[Aronis]

I don't think Don and Neil should be doing the same thing.


Pedit - what? Like randomly pass to another passer?

5 people aren't recieving fruit right? Let him pick out of tose five who gets fruit.

[Aronis]

So...

FINAL

IF ARONIS FLIPS TOWN

...
DO NOT PASS. LYNCH ICE TOMORROW.
-

IF ARONIS FLIPS SCUM

Players in ON TOP (in bold) pass to your partner, listed in groups below. Players BELOW do nothing.

don_johnson

Xayzeck

Bins

havingfitz

mathbandit

Formerfish

Neil_1113

??? (Mystery, but someone who isn't receiving fruit.)

Also I took Ice out and paired Bins with Fitz, because Ice is pretty much confirmed town for the moment, with the Aronis thing.

Ppl bus.

[Aronis]

So...

FINAL

IF ARONIS FLIPS TOWN

...
DO NOT PASS. LYNCH ICE TOMORROW.
-

IF ARONIS FLIPS SCUM

Players in ON TOP (in bold) pass to your partner, listed in groups below. Players BELOW do nothing.

don_johnson

Xayzeck

Bins

havingfitz

mathbandit

Formerfish

Neil_1113

??? (Mystery, but someone who isn't receiving fruit.)

Also I took Ice out and paired Bins with Fitz, because Ice is pretty much confirmed town for the moment, with the Aronis thing.

Ppl bus.

But he wouldn't. Obvtown!

[Aronis]

My post count tripled!

^superobvdeadconftown

[Aronis]

ppl buss

Yeah but not with a post like this: (Bolded for Emphasis)

I ain't even mad if we mislynch.-

You do realize at this point, that's not an option? If Aronis is town, he'll be modkilled for spamming and playing against his win condition. Especially after the hammer vote. He is definitely scum, there's no doubt about it.

P.Edit: Nice try implementing me Aronis. It's definitely believable. We're lynching me promptly tomorrow.

Isnt my alignment really obv? Like I was gonna die anyways. Just wanted a few fireworks before I did.

And you should think about who gets towncred from this, bc I really dont want him to win.

You never know.


Tell you what, since im about to die. Ill give reads, but only if you will you sheep them.