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Victor feels a bit off atm. I don't like Salamence either. 27, 42 appear like posting for the sake of posting and don't help town catch scum.
Fos: Salamence
Why should we be wondering?In post 36, Hershey Kiss wrote:
Oh and if anyone was wondering I don't care about the self vote. It doesn't prove anything.
Hydra miscommunication or scum slip?
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Thank you for responding. However, you misunderstood what I was enquiring about. I found it odd that Tn was questioning something you had previously said. This looks to me like either:
1) Him asking you about whether it is good idea to be predicting scumteams so early. Thus, communication within the hydra.
2) Scumslip because of the suggestion that predicting scumteams so early is scummy. Yet, town Tn would have no reason to suspect anything that Titus is doing. (Am I making any sense here?) Basically, it looked like Tn could be scum trying to spread accusations around and forgot Titus is also himself.
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Out of those: Scum Doctor > Victor >.................................insanityIn post 107, BoroPhil wrote:got to be scum in one of the people who voted for sala after he self-voted, so that's [Victor, insanity, doctor].
added to the FoS and the staggered time between that and vote, I'd say insanity is a good spot at the moment.
VOTE: insanity
I don't like how Doctor came in and put someone at L-1 while completely sheeping stuff that other people had said before.
I used Fos because I didn't want to put Salamence at L-2 yet. Then, when I came back on site and replied to Burning Crystal, I thought about how Salamence was already voting for himself so there could be no chance of a self hammer occurring.-
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Do not misrepresent me, U SUX. At no stage have I tried to 'get something started' on BC. They are a town read. All I did was point out something that I found slightly odd and explained the two ways that I interpreted it.
I don't really agree with you about these posts being particularly town (or scummy for that matter). I like 180 though.In post 151, Burning Crystal wrote:U SUX
Sal is town because of #18 (has an opinion he sticks to), #46 (sticks to unpopular opinion) and #60 (again providing analysis with clear reasons) and #105 (clear explanation). Sal is not a player of many words.
If Salamence is town, I think that one of Victor/Doctor is likely scum and
UNVOTE: VOTE: Victor
definitely seems off to me.
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I'm still not particularly convinced that Salemence is town. My main issue with him was how his first couple of posts was essentially fluffy posting for the sake of being actively posting. Then, when he was under pressure, he was focused solely on defending himself as opposed to actually trying to scum hunt. I didn't like the self-vote because it was a waste of a vote that could have been on a scum read.In post 199, Hershey Kiss wrote: Insanity what changed your mind about Salamence?
My read shifted due to liking 180. I thought I saw some original thought and attempts to scumhunt, particularly in regards to coming up with reads on Victor and I. Reading back just now, I'm not so sure anymore. That analysis only really covers people on his wagon. Recent posts 225 and 270 is going back to the fluff I don't like though :-\
I kinda agree with (I think it was?) Burning Crystal that if Salamence is town, he's easy lynchbait. Since, Victor and Doctor's votes on that wagon make me feel uncomfortable, I don't think I want to lynch Salamence at this time.
As I said in 117, I do not like how Doctor came in with no previous game relevant content and then sheeps to make the wagon L-1.In post 211, BoroPhil wrote:
I guess it's not surprising that you pick the other 2 to target from the 3 I pointed out. why are they scum and you aren't?In post 195, insanity018 wrote:
If Salamence is town, I think that one of Victor/Doctor is likely scum and
UNVOTE: VOTE: Victor
definitely seems off to me.
@ShadedMelee, thoughts on the game would be highly appreciated.
My read of Victor is influenced by gut but mostly please ISO Victor. He is not scumhunting at all.
Sorry everyone for the fairly low post count so far. This game has been moving quickly overnight for me.In post 253, BoroPhil wrote:elk has made 6 posts, doc has made 8. looks to me like you are going after easy targets. the only one who has made as little is insanity, so I guess you could aim the same thing at me, but Insanity (and doc, Victor) jumped on the sala lynch so they strike me as the best targets.
^Definitely thisIn post 260, reinoe wrote:This is getting kinda ridiculous: I'm crossing my fingers and for once all the V.I.'s are scum instead of red herring town.-
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It looks like an attempt to derail into going after Young & Beautiful. Yet, you don't vote for them or state that they are a becoming a scum read.In post 302, ShadedMelee wrote: What is "bad" on 278?-
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[quote="In post 350,
Doctorr's posting isn't perfect but perfect isn't what we are looking for Day 1. We look for effort, openness, transparency and consistency. Doctorr seems to have those a hell of a lot more than Victor who refuses to commit to anything.
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What do you think of the fact that Doctorr has been mostly sheeping popular opinions?In post 350, Burning Crystal wrote: Doctorr's posting isn't perfect but perfect isn't what we are looking for Day 1. We look for effort, openness, transparency and consistency. Doctorr seems to have those a hell of a lot more than Victor who refuses to commit to anything.
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^I didn't even think of this.In post 376, Burning Crystal wrote:
Again, no solid reads just trying to fish out who is a threat to his team by asking who they would cop considering all towns are a cop or a doctor.In post 272, VictorDeAngelo wrote:I can't be bothered to read so I'm just going to ask a question to everyone.
If you had a cop shot tonight, who would you cop?
Answers on a postcard. I'll be back in at some point to see if people answered.
VOTE: Victor
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^THISIn post 480, BoroPhil wrote:in fact, the more I think about it, the more scummy that is. or just plain stupid. we have people who haven't posted who might have N1 information?-
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No one told me either :-/
I agree that Hershey could be scum. ISO'ing her, she looks very (too?) concerned about Y & B's case on USUX 193 and 199. I'm also not fond of her string of prod dodges at the end of day 1. 111 looks good at first sight but is actually extremely hedgey.
At the same time, I see evidence of scum hunting and I liked the stance she took in 114.
So, she could go either way for me. I'd rather see Doctorr lynched.
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I had Hershey as a null at best and was trying to figure out why she had been put at L-1 in under 12 hours. Normally, this would suggest to me that the wagon was scum motivated but I have town reads on 2 of the players (bjc, BC) and the others are claimed cops.
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This is a lie. You were the first one to put down a vote on Hershey.In post 551, bjc wrote:I lost sight of him and went with the flow/got complacent. Who gives a shit?
I think that there is a good chance that at least one of bjc and Salamence is scum. Of the two, I still think that Salamence is more likely.
Salamence: I cannot see the town motivation in faking that innocent on bjc. Particularly when bjc was a constant null to scum read for him during Day 1. So, with this in mind, it makes no sense for town Salamence to do a complete 180 between days 1 and 2 and start sheeping bjc's reads.
Bjc: I'm uneasy about the way he is setting up lynches.
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I can't believe Salamence replaced out.
@Prof Fridays, why do you think your predecessor decided to fake his result?
Prof Fridays choosing the two other people who have wagons on them to scum read is quite uninspiring.
Salamence and Doctorr were both voting each other so either they're both bussing or I'm wrong about one of them.
I'm more confident that Sala was scum.
VOTE: Prof Fridays
Do enlighten me.In post 562, bjc wrote: Yeahhhhhh I'm gonna have to get on the computer to show why this post is dumb.
The scum motivation is also that Burning Crystal appeared to have caught onto the fact that Salamence could be faking (post 528). Unclaiming would make Salamence seem more like trolling/gambiting town than caught scum.In post 569, BoroPhil wrote: I was wondering if there was even less scum motivation in claiming then un-claiming, but of course the motivation is to put the pressure back on bjc.-
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I even bolded it for you.
In post 580, insanity018 wrote:@Prof Fridays, why do you think your predecessor decided to fake his result?-
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Funny this. Because you're also being such a brick wall about Salamence being town.In post 596, bjc wrote:I CAN understand, however, replacing out because you can't stand arguing with a brick wall (titus). Oh boy can I side with that!
Tell me, why would town-Salamence fake an innocent on you and then sheep you, when he wasscumreadingyou on Day 1 ??!!-
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In post 626, bjc wrote:And I will say that the push on Elk does, at least right now, seem scum-manipulated. Or should I say the reluctance to lynch Doctor.Explain.
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In post 684, insanity018 wrote:Prof Fridaysa role that acts on Night 4 in 612 and 616claimedcrumbed-
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Thanks.In post 688, Docthorr wrote:STAT, an abbreviation of the Latin statim, meaning "immediately"
All these weird/new terms.
What is the use of it etc.? I R confused
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Eurgh, I was going to post earlier today but my phone kept logging me out ...
*sigh* Doctorr's claim is both convenient yet believable which isn't particularly helpful.
Prof Friday's 713 makes me a tad uneasy. It reminds me of something I said in my last scum game.
In what way did Borophil's read change?In post 750, Prof Fridays wrote:BoroPhil already expressed his thoughts and concluded me/Docthorr scum, it seems to me, and his stance changed suddenly when I claimed Night 4 Doc, and on that basis, he has nothing to stand on.
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Hmm, I just realised something. Borophil keeps forgetting/missing stuff relating to people's claims. Is that something scum is more likely or less likely to do?-
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Burning Crystal is 99% confirmed town. (I can elaborate why if necessary?)
I am confirmed town. (Not necessarily from the Night 4 doctor claims since there are 2 of them but because it was crumbed by theelkspeaks in 607).
Sigh, bjc is likely town.
Leaving Borophil, Doctorr, Prof Fridays.
I have reasons to scumread both Salamence/Prof Fridays and Doctorr. Yet, I think that they are probably not scum together. (based on sheep votings of each other.)
Which would mean that Borophil has to be the final scum. Could it be that simple? Then, I would prefer to vote Borophil today.
I'll be having a closer look at each of their ISOs either today or tomorrow.
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@BC/Titus, Explain both of these please?
In post 764, Burning Crystal wrote:That probably means I die but oh freaking well.
Given BoroPhil's play today, I'm strongly leaning towards bjc and you as the scumteam with an outside shot of Doctorr. Of course, I haven't ruled out BP though given his lurktastic start.
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Bjc, why did you think that this was the case?In post 490, bjc wrote:Hershey, Doc, and BC all die and I'm pretty sure it's game over. I need to read D1 real quick to confirm.
Going back to this: Which interactions with U SUX make you think that BoroPhil is likely town? U SUX does address BoroPhil a few times but never really gives a read on him except to say 'null leaning town' in 170. Similarly, BoroPhil never listed a read on U SUX.In post 792, Burning Crystal wrote: I do believe that BoroPhil is likely town from the interactions with known scum. However, the most prudent course of action is to wait. Have you check someone and announce it. I would recommend checking bjc given the major reluctance to checking him. If you die, I'm voting bjc as there is no strongman.
If Borophil and Doctorr are the scum team, all 3 scum were on the Day 1 mislynch?In post 444, Micc wrote:Votecount 1.15
VictorDeAngelo (7) : ShadedMelee, U SUX, BoroPhil, Docthorr, Burning Crystal, insanity018, reinoe-
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Victor wagon:
..........................BC, Insanity, SM, U SUX
BC unvotes..........Insanity, SM, U SUX
BC votes..............Insanity, SM, U SUX, BC
Boro votes...........Insanity, SM, U SUX, BC, Boro
BC unvotes..........Insanity, SM, U SUX, Boro
Doc votes............Insanity, SM, U SUX, Boro, Doc
BC votes.............Insanity, SM, U SUX, Boro, Doc, BC
I unvote + revote. SM, U SUX, Boro, Doc, BC, Insanity, reinoe
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In post 885, Burning Crystal wrote:
Indeed, which is why I think it's a stunt. Scum knew if insanity died, I'd lynch bjc in a heartbeat... so the person they try to kill is insanity? Nope. I don't really buy this.
If scum thought that bjc might gambit and protect you, that could be why they tried to shoot me.
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^Conclusion: fuckery everywhere.
In post 888, bjc wrote:Insanity confirmed for being a reasonable player.
Prof/Sal confirmed for town, unfortunately now I have a hard time proving that Boro/Doc are confscum. Although I'm not sure how genuine BC feels anymore. How do you feel about me, Insanity?
I feel conflicted.
I'm going to think this through tomorrow when I'm not dead tired.
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In post 916, bjc wrote:
OH YOU MEAN LIKE HOW YOU SAID DOCTOR WAS REALLY SCUMMY BUT SWITCHED YOUR VOTE TO ELK JUST TO GET HIM TO TALK?
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