Open 579: Pick Your (Chocolate) Power -- Game Over

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VOTE: alchemist

I'm genuinely fucking pissed he used 4 to ge

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4 to get the top draft pick

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I'm more pissed than you are

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So it's been a long day and I'm only on page 3 and the first things that come to mind are the fact that nobody has mention the context in which I faked my anger and that Amy is probably a

Squirrel Girl

Thor alt.

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VOTE: amy

Give us a vote pls.

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I wanna talk to Hayoto.

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VOTE: guts

Sheeping dino. I town read him and I suck at mafia right now.

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I like when ppl doubtcast without trying to peg my alignment.

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I don't see how that helps your case.

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Why is rvs still relevant

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V/LA family illness.

Noted. Hope they recover soon.

Also, please bold this in the future. ~insanity

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Timing of my v/la?

Go fuck yourself.

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@Siveure. You posted that you're vanilla. If you told which role had you gone for, would it help the town more than the scum? If so, please tell us the role you wanted to get!

Anen, this. I was doing this anyway. Saying this is utterly redundant.

Math, Alchemist, you are misinterpreting "you". I'm not worried about the breadcrumb being found by scum lol.

Also

VOTE: alchemist

If you're town, I support this vote^.

I believe there's VERY likely scum in {Siveure, Alchemist, Ananananenenenenenininininononononununununonymous}.

Did I miss your reasoning for scumreading alchemist?

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I think that Siveure DtTrikyp is trying too hard to buddy me.

Spoiler: quotes

Help I don't know what to post.

Was this meant to be first person, as in you don't know what to post, or sarcasm about wgeurts?

Me.

I don't have a clue what to say.

Don't really like the way math distances from the amy wagon after leaving it...

I did a quick search, Amy's not experienced,

let's take that off the table.

About math's distancy stuff, this.

Oh.



Let's take this off the table.

UNVOTE: amy farrah fowler

Really not feeling this wagon any more.

I don't think conflicting or contradictory opinions makes her scummy, and there's not an enormous amount otherwise.

Also, Anen's latest post looks really confbiasy. So what if she's not scumhunting?

IN OTHER NEWS, dave has put down a non-rvs vote. This is BIG NEWS. Lets support this!

VOTE: wgeurts

While I don't mind people town reading me, it doesn't fit well (or even at all) with the rest of his posting. The wgeurts vote is straight up sheeping, despite the commentary in the post. Even more ironic is that the point of my vote was to pressure wgeurts into doing something, and it gets sheeped by another player who isn't really hunting. And the buddy act continues on later.

VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp

@Ankamius, you may recall that I don't like naked votes.

This is how scum busses derp scum.

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Flubber: why did you vote amy and siv?

Siv is scum.

I need a better grasp of Amy's intentions.

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He wasn't trying to excuse his play in the last pyp.

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@mod

Should be off v/la barring emergencies.

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He wasn't trying to excuse his play in the last pyp.

Why is that scummy?

Not playing to town meta, not taking responsibility for his actions, playing defensively, etc, etc.

Are you asking this out of disagreement or asking out of thinking I'm a moron?

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He wasn't trying to excuse his play in the last pyp.

Why is that scummy?

Not playing to town meta, not taking responsibility for his actions, playing defensively, etc, etc.

Are you asking this out of disagreement or asking out of thinking I'm a moron?

I'm missing what your putting down.
How does not excusing his play in pyp make him scummy this game?

Why does he have a self-preservation mentality he didn't have as town?

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Best Buy has been kicking my ass. One of the things I'm uneasy about and I posted this before my V/LA is Flubbernugget wagon hopping right before I left. It gave me a vibe of "I'm not gonna win this lynch with Amy so I'm just going to hop on the next vanity wagon". And what was his reasoning? Oh, I suck at mafia so I'm just going to sheep someone. And now that another vanity wagon started and I posted something about his wagon hopping, he's openly supporting the Siv wagon, but not actually wanting to be on it.

So my top scum read now gets my vote.

Vote: Flubbernugget

I feel like this is a catch 22 read.

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But why should I think you're seeing it from a town perspective.

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But why should I think you're seeing it from a town perspective.

I don't care if you see it coming from a town perspective or not. It's called scumhunting. I saw something that didn't sit right with me as a town thing for you to do and I'm calling you on it. Hence, you are my top scum read. I tend not to worry too much if someone I feel is scum agrees with me or thinks me suspecting them is coming from a town perspective.

Think about this, if you saw me jumping from wagon to wagon and saying I'm just abandoning this wagon on going to another under the guise, "I suck, I'm sheeping this guy", what would YOU be doing?

Oh and if calling something out like that which could be a scummy act on your part is something that isn't coming from a town perspective, then we really need to rethink how this game is played.

I would take farside's approach over yours.

And yes, it's tough for me to see whether someone is being a tunnelfuck from a town/scum perspective regardless of what they're calling out.

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Also, Anen's latest post looks really confbiasy. So what if she's not scumhunting?

Actually, I didn't notice this first time around. Hm.

Alchemist, do you believe scum would make a statement as obvious as "It's cool if y'all don't look for us"? This seems like a sentence scum would correct immediately with a simple reread of the post.

I don't know. It's not something I want to just completely dismiss because it seems to obvious. If we give him a pass for it, then even if he's town it gives the scum a pass for it too. This is something we need to push.

ISO'd Alchemist and saw this. Looks like scum disguising a policy vote.

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Also, Anen's latest post looks really confbiasy. So what if she's not scumhunting?

Actually, I didn't notice this first time around. Hm.

Alchemist, do you believe scum would make a statement as obvious as "It's cool if y'all don't look for us"? This seems like a sentence scum would correct immediately with a simple reread of the post.

I don't know. It's not something I want to just completely dismiss because it seems to obvious. If we give him a pass for it, then even if he's town it gives the scum a pass for it too. This is something we need to push.

ISO'd Alchemist and saw this. Looks like scum disguising a policy vote.

Why would anyone try to disguise a policy vote? Policy votes aren't even considered scummy.

I must have missed the memo.

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UNVOTE:

I know it's pre flip associatives but it's bothering me.

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What? Not understanding the above post. You're unvoting wgeurts for associatives??

No I was unvoting siv?

*ISO'S self*

Nope farside just told me I voted Siv and I went with it.

VOTE: Alchemist fuck it

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Prodge

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Do NOT want an anen lynch right now.

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Not really. My line of thinking was that if Siv actually turned out to be town, he could be easily mislynched without the scum needing to be on the wagon, so I'm focusing on players that weren't on the Siv wagon.

What reasoning to you have to disregard the massive wifom of this statemen?

Also I wanna know why adrian's vote was scummy.

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VOTE: theadrianc

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You're not getting any town points for yelling at Venrob.

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What made 820 bad?

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VOTE: alchemist

This is fun

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Droog (scum?)slipped.

There's scum between adrianc and alchemist.

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Okay maybe venrob is scum too but idk.

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Guys a venrob lynch is nice

But an adrian lynch is nicer.

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Holy mother of overexplanation/appease.

Dino's interactions with gc were starting to bother me (unless I really did miss a guilty) but fucking nobody appeases scum like that.

So we lynch adrian, alchemist, and by then the setup should solve itself.

E.Z.

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So because I dont feel like policying lynchbait, Im appeasing Venrobs slot? I dont understand what youre trying to say.

It was a standard replacement reaction test. GC surpassed expectations.

Alchemist's 1001 is appeasing your 999.

And having a reaction test with 0 creativity and being able to go "yup town" from it is not a townie thing to do.

Also VOTE: alchemist. He and adrian are scum but at least alchemist is here to party.

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You can hear someone out and appease them.

And dino's towntells are greater than his scumtells.

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Ok, so now we both agree that Dino is town. Explain how the way I'm working with him is scummy. I was asked by my strongest townread to switch my vote from the slot he was townreading, so I switched it to my other scumread. Appeasing him wouod have been sheeping onto the wgeurts wagon.

He asked why you weren't voting me.

You're kinda like "oops sorry I'll get right on that sir" in your explanation of why you didn't vote me/your transition into voting me when talking to dino.

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Guts is town tho

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Yes a more creative reaction test would have worked. Fake dayvig's don't work because everyone knows about them. The only way a reaction test works is if the testee hasn't seen it before, which usually means having to create a new one. But I have a nagging suspicion you know all of this because 1062 is the first time I remember seeing ad-homenim from you. This isn't even covering how fake your evaluation of GC's reaction looked.

I'm not sure how challenging a vote and the seeing scum have to cover up their cognitive dissonance as teamwork but this is a "yes-no" battle not worth fighting.

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Because it's a pet peeve, just wanna say

Ad hominem is not "You're wrong, therefore you're stupid." That's just an insult. A useless one in this game, but an insult nonetheless.
Ad hominem is "You have an IQ of 42, therefore you're wrong."
Ad hominem is not "You're disregarding a common reaction test, therefore you're a hipster."

Regardless, just because it's common doesn't mean it doesn't work. The only way it wouldn't work is if you believe GC read the thread and confirmed it was a reaction test before claiming his role. Otherwise he had no way of knowing it was a reaction test.

I'm not arguing semaintics before but I will repeat myself.

He doesn't have to read the whole thread to know that's a reaction test if he's seen something like it before.

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Yeah we don't want to be lynching me.

This is the most we've gotten from Flubbernugget all game. Curious that this is the argument he chooses to go for in-depth.

So actually weigh in on it or something

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disregard 1066 in that last post

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What do you think of him saying you're town?

Also if alchemist flips scum math is trying a really fucking blatant chainsaw.

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There's not much to weigh in on. Your content nowadays is "Math's reaction test is null" (

oh thanks, glad you refuted my townread on a guy

you haven't provided reads on

) and "Adrien and Alchemist are scum because I say so and because Alchemist did what Math asked him to."

So you wanna quit being useless and give us something to work with?

Adrien is scum because it looks like he reads something really easy to bitch about then does so to look busy.

Alchemist's compliance was inorganic. See I can rephrase things too.

You're trying to veil my activity as a scum case.

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Okay it's good that you've explicitly stated I'm not scum so we can drop that for now.

And here we go with chainsaw semantics. You're still trying to make me look bad/discredit me after I got a little more aggressive with alchemist and look at that; he might not only be a lynch candidate but it's getting close to deadline too.

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soon.

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I can hammer vic but I have an adrian/alchemist/dino scumteam

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I can hammer vic but I have an adrian/alchemist/dino scumteam

So you think Dino is scum, but your happy to hammer the wagon he's been pushing.

Flubber, is yet another example of the kind of thing I would scumread any other player for.

A flip is better than a nl.

Considering the context, you're literally scum reading the content of a fluff post.

Also did I miss your claim?

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Actually do claims matter right now

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Actually do claims matter right now

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VOTE: vic

bitch my quickhammer

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Voting ollie post vc

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Well the "communication" seems to be gc handing his ass over to him in several different ways.

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In other words before I vote for ollie what do you want from me

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I didn't like the lynch.

My reads haven't changed except ollie replaces my alchemist scumread.

And ollie is well on his way to a lynch so can I vote him now

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You're acting like another lynch would have gone through try again

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What were you waiting for Flubber, before you hammered?

Actually do claims matter right now

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Also harping on what GC called Ollie's scumflail is missing the point.

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I really didn't wanna be the one to ask.

Phew.

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Yeah but I can't even figure out how to quickhammer apparently so when was that gonna happen

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Now?

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VOTE: ollie

That's L-1 btw

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Well I said my reads haven't changed today but I just realized that after alchemist's flip dino makes no sense as scum from my pov, so I'm down a scum read and idk what to do

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Hey look now scum is trying to deflect the lynch

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Someone should ask ollie why he thinks adrien/flubber are scum together.
you know since I when I ask I get shit responses.

Why do you want more scumspam

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Flubber, care to answer my question? Where do you live? I mean the country.

US

I already don't like where this is going

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I I remember my first scum game too

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VOTE: adrien

For me poe says last scum is in formerfish and droog

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Actually why is GC even alive

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GC who here have you played with before?

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I missed how that's guaranteed

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(Fuckfuckfuckingfuck*shitpiss^mothefucker)/0
Therefore an infinite number of FormerFishFucks(tm)

VOTE: fish

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@farside why droog?

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Is it bad that I'm townreading orc and sheeping him after like 3 posts

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So I'm thinking back to the primary mafia game in the micro queue where scum opened up with a wicked bus. I was given the lylo hammer and mislynched because of the bus. It's making uber paraniod of orc right now and idk what to do about it

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in 7 hours you went from sheeping me to "uber paranoid"?

I can't be paranoid of you while town reading you?

The problem is last time I town read someone the way I'm town reading you they were scum.

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Vote for me bro

Oh wait you cant

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Because when nobody quickhammers guess what that means

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Basically means that the voter or the votee is the scum.

And I'm not scum.

Vote my ass

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Prove to me orc is scum. You are my tunnel.

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I could vote for you if you'd like

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VOTE: adrien for when you come back.

And now we wait









orc when you're town it seems like you're good

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Orc ignore that last part. I was concerned that you didn't seem confident in your vote but nobody really wants to lay down the lylo vote that loses the game so nvmnd

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Maaaaaaaaaybe

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Ugghhhh you locked the thread and didn't post the flip till soooo much later :p

Thanks for modding insanity