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VOTE: Aristophanes
His tone is bugging me, and I'm disliking the way he's engaging at present. More on that later.
Lyserg gets Townpoints for that last post. I'm still sorting out Ginko, but I like that they're pushing the game forward.
In post 121, acryon wrote:In post 53, Aristophanes wrote:Acryon seems like he's gotten kinda defensive. He also hasn't really done much contributing as of yet. Acryon, other than thinking my tone to be funny, what are your thoughts on the players here? Ginko and Lyserg have said stuff, why not look into them a bit?
This is quite weird to me. For one, I didn’t think I was being defensive at all, but given someone else also mentioned that, I guess I’ll accept that it looked like I was.
Why did you ask me to look specifically into Ginko and Lyserg? Other people said things, and people like Orc said quite a bit, but for some reason you mentioned those two specifically.
And then you say:
In post 53, Aristophanes wrote:Ginko and Lyserg are alright in my books thus far.
Why do you want me to specifically look at the two people you think are fine? This isn’t normal town behavior in my experience. If you were to ask me to look into someone, normally it would make sense for it to be someone you suspected.
VOTE: Aristophanes
In post 226, Lalendra wrote:I'd really like to hear more from Young, Vyse and prawn.
In post 359, farside22 wrote:Here he is the first to point on Ari strange wording about asking for players he is town reading
He also calls out metal in that post.
Farside wrote: liked his response to Orc reads as not pushing on shit taking a stand back from something that can be read either way.
Farside wrote:goes on when pushed no wishy washy stance on that.
Farside wrote:follow up question shows he is reading post and getting to the meat of what players are not saying.
In post 326, acryon wrote:
Oh, not at all. I think Lal is almost definitely scum. Hence why my vote hasn't moved.
In post 347, Ginko wrote:Acryon is scum who doesn't understand how someone can distrust 6 people because he's only hunting for a selection of the scum in this game.
Lalendra case is full of a lot of 'Lalendra is being weird' points and her doing things that people don't understand.
Someone make striking points that I can relate to on Lalendra or you should get on board this sexier wagon.
-Cheetory
In post 385, farside22 wrote:I'm still reading but I saw lyse comment about my town read so I'm going to explain a bit of what I see more times then not come from scum.
Scum tend to be very uninvolved in scum hunting aspect. Typically weak cases, weak reasons, somewhat low under the radar. When you have 2 scum groups to content with this practice tends to be more prevalent because as scum they worry about being killed by the other team if they are too town.
So when I read lal as scum and let's say she is scum acryon looks more town pushing against scum and maybe targeted for said push.
Second thing for my town read is no one has really put any case against him as why he is scummy.
*Gets off soap box to finish read.*
acryon wrote:In post 365, acryon wrote:In post 362, VysePresident wrote:In post 326, acryon wrote:
Oh, not at all. I think Lal is almost definitely scum. Hence why my vote hasn't moved.
Why? I'm not seeing it.
I pointed out a couple posts in my thoughts on you. Could you elaborate on your thoughts process here? (173, 207, 214)
Why is this scummy, and not just Newbish mistakes?
I mean my thought process seems like it was pretty straight-forward, no? These aren't newbie mistakes; they are pretty blatant contradictions. One of her primary criticisms of Lyserg was that he put Ari close to a lynch (he didn't), and she put Ari to L-1. So the reasons for suspecting people are BS, which also makes sense why she chose to comment on my joke post but nothing else. The move to voting Ari was unnatural.
In post 392, farside22 wrote:I didn't notice that only one faction had a kill.
How can you say lal's done nothing scummy.
acryon wrote:You point to level head and expectations but none of that is om scum it's an oppinion.
In post 223, acryon wrote:
I mean you don't need to feel pressured into voting there, but it was just something I expected following that post.
In post 365, acryon wrote:
In post 363, VysePresident wrote:In post 347, Ginko wrote:Acryon is scum who doesn't understand how someone can distrust 6 people because he's only hunting for a selection of the scum in this game.
Lalendra case is full of a lot of 'Lalendra is being weird' points and her doing things that people don't understand.
Someone make striking points that I can relate to on Lalendra or you should get on board this sexier wagon.
-Cheetory
I think it's more likely that he's just pushing on a perceived weakness. Otherwise, I'm in agreement.
I also like points iii) & iv) in 297.
How is it exactly that I'm playing purely reactionary again? Given I was the person who first started the push on Lal. And iv is also terrible and I've explained why. You can try to find reasons to call me scum, but these aren't even close to being legitimate.
acryon wrote:In post 360, VysePresident wrote:Basically, Acryon feels like a relatively level-headed Scum player who's more focused on getting a lynch than sorting through the game.
I mean we have one day left and no lynching is pretty bad. And certainly getting lynches is a big part of sorting the game out. You lynch the people you think are scum/wolves and rinse and repeat until you win.
West wrote:It's weird to me that Vyse, during the last section of yesterday, was much more "anti-Lalendralynch" than "pro-acyronlynch." He fights pretty hard against farside's assertion that Lal is scum, and then kinda just weakly probes and nudges at acryon. Not sure how to read this, and wondering if that's just a part of Vyse's meta.
In post 459, Ginko wrote:
3. I agree that Seer should look atAcryon not really seeing Young. Acryon's switch from Ari to Lal right at the beginning of that wagon pretty much cleared him in my books unless the seer tells me otherwise.
- Johnny
In post 693, ~Jordan` wrote:I'll just go into skim mode tonight. Close reading is always a bad idea.
In post 554, farside22 wrote:In post 522, farside22 wrote:In post 508, farside22 wrote: feeling a bit paranoid about acryon with people still scum reading him. I also had to take a step back and asked him about west and lal because I found west asking lal questions.
Lal didn't interact with west, which west called out and lal used west case as a good point. None of that equal scum together.
I found it a dishonest response from acryon not to note those points about lal and west when I asked him.
In post 602, farside22 wrote:
@vyse: I don't look at join dates typically. Lal read lost to me and bad from the word go. West has read more indepth thought process. I have played with someone who never played online mafia and came across as west did. No one really said anything about ari but the more he post the more he reads newb. He may not be, it's not obvious and I asked acryon for reaction purposes and he failed.
In post 689, farside22 wrote:In post 686, West9 wrote:My knowledge of my alignment is gonna trump whatever my interpretation of Lal's meta is. I happen to know that Lal and I were not on a team, and one of the benefits of that knowledge is that I don't have to consider at all whether Lal's attempts to use my reasoning against Ari was wolf buddying wolf. I'm not gonna bring up "reasons to disagree with farside's points" that I know to be untrue, whether or not they are confirmed to be untrue to the rest of the game.
That's where my head is about that. I get that it might not be helpful to you, as you don't know my alignment and might see all of this as lies, but whatever.
This hurts my head to read.
More in a moment.
In post 550, acryon wrote:In post 549, farside22 wrote:
Vyse: I actually didn't even realize a good chunk of his content has been about me until I went into his ISO, but it doesn't really look like he is scumhunting. He also started off the game with an Ari vote and then backed off for reasons I'm not sure were made clear. Like, what does this post mean, actually?
In post 141, VysePresident wrote:I'm still not thrilled with Ari. His early posts bugged me because he seemed to be more inclined to banter than engage, and more importantly, when he did engage, it seemed more directed at creating suspicion than sorting through the game. That said, I'm not sure he's my first choice anymore.
Especially given no follow up or actual questioning of Ari. For someone who is unsure on a slot, he sure isn't asking any questions or appearing to actually figure him out.
In post 734, pisskop wrote:
Vyse
Spoiler: Dis you really spend hours on this game?
I don't think so, because I've put in less than two thus far.